Or pay you their money for that matter. I thought the University of Chicago was supposed to be about economic freedom? I think Milton Friedman is rolling over in his grave....
"I can tell you that the administrative burden this would put on small businesses would be very severe."
That's exactly the point. Everything government does is to drain the economic resources of the population in order to keep them in a state of perpetual slavery.
Think about it:
If you weren't paying taxes, you probably would already be a retired millionaire (assuming you're over 25). By the time you count income and all of the taxes on all of the products you buy, you're going to be paying 90% of all of the money you earn in your lifetime to taxes. For all the technology we have, most people are working longer and harder and keeping less of their incomes since they are re-appropriated by force. And for what?
The pleasure of having your freedoms taken away by a soul-crushing fascist state.
The state vector has collapsed, but that doesn't mean he's dead. He's alive and well in the universe next door.
"The world is given to me only once, not one existing and one perceived. Subject and object are only one. The barrier between them cannot be said to have broken down as a result of recent experience in the physical sciences, for this barrier does not exist." - Erwin Schrodinger
In you first paragraph you claim that video games have less of an effect because you see fake images, but in the case of rap music you have to use your imagination and thus your imagined images are somehow more real than the one's the playstation (or whatever) generates. Really?
Yes. Biologically and Psychologically as far as the brain is concerned, there is no difference between experiencing an event and imagining it. You can watch the activity on an fMRI and see the same areas of the brain light up, and see the same bio-chemical reaction. On the contrary, imagined experiences are often more real than physical experiences especially during periods of deep trance, such as those that occur while been deeply engaged in a task or listening to music. I am sure your professor can validate this for you as soon as you get around to taking PSYCH101 at whatever "elite university" you are attending.
Also you claim "Music and video games are fundamentally different in the ways that they effect the nervous system." This is a very strong claim. Please at least come up with some sort of backing for your points. The only stuff you come up with MightyYar seems to to have shot down pretty hard.
See the previous post for recommended reading material on how music affects intelligence (i.e. neo-cortical function) or just do a search on amazon
I still think my analogy is pretty apt.
No it isn't. A better analogy would have been reading a book.
Well, I wouldn't ban rap music or video games since I believe in free speech, but playing GTA when you could be writing code or reading a book is likely to make you stupid also. Of course, there are lots of video games that actually require thought...
Well, I wouldn't agree with Jack Thomson, but your analogy is not very good. Music and video games are fundamentally different in the ways that they effect the nervous system. While playing video games can be addictive due dopamine being released during the process[1], they do not have nearly the same subconscious effect that music does. Furthermore, it is much easier to distinguish between fantasy and the real world during a video game since the images are all artificial. When listening to music, you get to fill in your own script to the soundtrack with whatever is going on at the time (i.e. it is much more real).
This is a field of research that has gained a lot of attention in recent years, and a lot of good books have been done on the subject.
There have been several studies done verifying that listening to complex, harmonious music (i.e. beethoven, bach, mozart, iron maiden, gnr etc.) sparks intelligence and creativity, while listening to someone talk over a one beat drum machine (e.g. Nelly, NAS) lowers intelligence and dulls creativity. Playing a musical instrument is even better for you. Just do a quick search:
As a matter of fact, Beethoven's 5th and 6th symphonies (opus 67 and 68 respectively) were written back to back and demonstrate the process of intelligence increase in musical form, with the crisis starting at the knocking of fate at the opening of opus 67 and traversing through the ex-stasis experience and ending in harmony in the pastoral symphony. The fact that listening to Beethoven dramatically increases intelligence has been proven time and again (http://www.amazon.com/Breakthrough-Thinking-Principles-Creative-Problem/dp/0761506489).
People are creatures of habit and their personalities are shaped by the things that they do. You will become your rituals(see: wilson's 23rd law). Of course, your personal experience will be different from everyone else, but chances are that if you are listening to this on a constant basis it's going to have a deep, life-long effect on your personality.
>> If you want to talk about race, talk about why more african-americans are poor.
The real reason is rap music and BET. If you're filling your head with fantasies about rape, robbery, murder, and obscene materialism (bling bling) on a 24x7 basis, it's no wonder that you turn out violent and illiterate.
But the same thing is true of some white people with their "pro-drunk driving and wife beating music". Just look at the literacy rates of people who listen to Lee Greenwood and Toby Keith: It's next to zero.
It's not a shock that people who listen to Toby Keith end up being jack-booted jingoists or people that listen to Jay-Z and Dr. Dre end up morally bankrupt.
It's just simple programming:
Garbage in Garbage out.
Until you understand how this process works, you're not likely to be a game developer.
Agreed. If I had kids I would gladly pay more not to have them poisoned, just like I pay more to remove the fluoride from my water because I don't feel like having my bones or my central nervous system destroyed. Unfortunately, you can't go online and get a vaccine filter though, so for now the best solution is probably to read the insert that comes with the vaccine and avoid the doctor unless it is something absolutely life threatening.
I hate to say it, but it's probably a good natural selection mechanism anyway. People who are dumb enough to take this into there bodies will die, although it's a shame that their kids will end up mentally retarded. They didn't have any choice in the matter.
>>> Your statement may have been true 5 years ago but most of the Java industry has tried to move past Struts (including its author)
Well if Craig wanted to create a a JSR with JSF. JSF is much slower than Struts. Plus it has a massive session footprint. Plus it sucks working with JSF.
>>> Seriously, have you actually ever unit tested Struts code?
Well there is Struts test case, but if you have a good design, you shouldn't have any code that needs to be unit tested in a struts action. If you have code that needs to be tested in a struts action this is generally an indicator of poor design.
If you have a separate business/domain model that's been tested and validation module that's been tested, and there is no presentation logic to be tested since as I mentioned before, we are using Model 2, why would you need to to test your struts action?
If your controller contains business logic, then you've violated the MVC pattern.
>>> If you really want speed, why not just write your whole web app as a CGI using C/C++? I bet that would be a heck of a lot 'faster' than anything running in bytecode.
Sorry. It isn't. CGI/C++ is slower than Struts. I suspect this is because of the extra process overhead for each request and the fact that CGI in general is slow. Even standalone Java applications frequently out-perform standalone C++ apps depending on how your system was compiled. This is because the JVM can do optimization that frequently isn't done for native code. Also, once the JIT process completes you effectively have native code, which makes Java at worst, at least as fast as C++, but with a slightly higher heap footprint.
Not saying that Struts doesn't have problems (it does) but as far as I know, it still performs better than any web-app framework out there, which was what the original post was about
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Maybe I need to clear up some confusion:
I am a Linux user(Gentoo) and I hate Microsoft. As a matter of fact, out of the 20 machines I have at home, not one runs any Microsoft product.
Just because someone doesn't like Google's business practices doesn't mean that they're a fan of Microsoft, except in some bizarre Manichean universe. If I had to rank the level of evil of technology companies I would probably rank them like so (from most evil to least evil):
1. IBM: For planning and orchestrating the Holocaust. 2. Microsoft/Gates Foundation: For subverting standards, engaging in Trademark infringement(e.g. java), and the socialist and eugenicist policies and actions of the Gates Foundation. 3. Yahoo: For engaging in censorship which has led to the incarceration of several political dissidents. 4. Google: For engaging in censorship and supporting counter-intelligence agencies against the American people. 5. Telecoms: For supporting counter-intelligence agencies against the American people.
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Uh oh! I'm a Troll. Mental note: If you don't want to be despised, on slashdot, don't ever saying anything negative about Google or PERL.
"Quit confusing people with facts." - Bill O' Reilly
With their history of censorship and government complicity, I know I wouldn't. I don't even like using any of there products.
A lot of talk is made about making web applications scalable, but in reality, you're not likely to have 200 million users overnight. Facebook and MySpace have about 50 million users a piece, and the reason that they can't scale is because everyone who works at those places is a moron. I mean MySpace runs on Windows and SQLServer, and then they wonder why they can't handle the traffic, or there application is exposing bugs to end-users at a rate of tens of thousands per second.
If you can't support a web application with a million concurrent users, and 50k transactions a second on a $4000 piece of hardware, then that generally means one of four things is wrong:
1. You're paying way too much for hardware. 2. Your DB Server is slow as hell. For high performance try PostgreSQL or MySQL instead of Oracle/SQLServer. 3. You application platform sucks. Try J2EE/Model 2. I've worked with everything you can imagine and Struts 1/Velocity smokes any other web-application framework out there. On average, It's about 10,000 times faster than CGI/PERL. Don't believe me? Quit being a fan boy and actually do some experimenting yourself[1]. Try doing some load testing against the same application implemented in different languages and see for yourself. 4. Your code sucks. Try picking up some books on Design Patterns. If you can't tell me what a Flyweight is or explain how process and threading models work on your particular platform, then you shouldn't be writing web-applications.
[1] That's why they call it computer science not computer religion.
The phrase "domestic military operations" shows their true nature. The U.S. government is no longer trying to deny the fact that they have declared war on the people of the United States, so anyone who participates in this program is guilty of treason under Article III section III of the constitution.
They government just hasn't gotten around to killing them yet.
With Military and CIA recruiting down due to a sudden stroke of conscience in the U.S. Population, there is a domestic backlog. This situation will be solved by the new north american union when canadian and mexican troops are brought in to stop the uprising that will result for the upcoming engineered economic crisis.
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Or pay you their money for that matter. I thought the University of Chicago was supposed to be about economic freedom? I think Milton Friedman is rolling over in his grave....
"I can tell you that the administrative burden this would put on small businesses would be very severe."
That's exactly the point. Everything government does is to drain the economic resources of the population in order to keep them in a state of perpetual slavery.
Think about it:
If you weren't paying taxes, you probably would already be a retired millionaire (assuming you're over 25). By the time you count income and all of the taxes on all of the products you buy, you're going to be paying 90% of all of the money you earn in your lifetime to taxes. For all the technology we have, most people are working longer and harder and keeping less of their incomes since they are re-appropriated by force. And for what?
The pleasure of having your freedoms taken away by a soul-crushing fascist state.
How is JavaPOS not cross-platform?
The state vector has collapsed, but that doesn't mean he's dead. He's alive and well in the universe next door.
"The world is given to me only once, not one existing and one perceived. Subject and object are only one. The barrier between them cannot be said to have broken down as a result of recent experience in the physical sciences, for this barrier does not exist." - Erwin Schrodinger
In you first paragraph you claim that video games have less of an effect because you see fake images, but in the case of rap music you have to use your imagination and thus your imagined images are somehow more real than the one's the playstation (or whatever) generates. Really?
Yes. Biologically and Psychologically as far as the brain is concerned, there is no difference between experiencing an event and imagining it. You can watch the activity on an fMRI and see the same areas of the brain light up, and see the same bio-chemical reaction. On the contrary, imagined experiences are often more real than physical experiences especially during periods of deep trance, such as those that occur while been deeply engaged in a task or listening to music. I am sure your professor can validate this for you as soon as you get around to taking PSYCH101 at whatever "elite university" you are attending.
Also you claim "Music and video games are fundamentally different in the ways that they effect the nervous system." This is a very strong claim. Please at least come up with some sort of backing for your points. The only stuff you come up with MightyYar seems to to have shot down pretty hard.
See the previous post for recommended reading material on how music affects intelligence (i.e. neo-cortical function) or just do a search on amazon
I still think my analogy is pretty apt.
No it isn't. A better analogy would have been reading a book.
Well then I would be insulting myself since I am black.
Well, I wouldn't ban rap music or video games since I believe in free speech, but playing GTA when you could be writing code or reading a book is likely to make you stupid also. Of course, there are lots of video games that actually require thought...
Well, I wouldn't agree with Jack Thomson, but your analogy is not very good. Music and video games are fundamentally different in the ways that they effect the nervous system. While playing video games can be addictive due dopamine being released during the process[1], they do not have nearly the same subconscious effect that music does. Furthermore, it is much easier to distinguish between fantasy and the real world during a video game since the images are all artificial. When listening to music, you get to fill in your own script to the soundtrack with whatever is going on at the time (i.e. it is much more real).
This is a field of research that has gained a lot of attention in recent years, and a lot of good books have been done on the subject.
This is an up-and-comer:
http://www.amazon.com/Sweet-Anticipation-Psychology-Expectation-Bradford/dp/0262582783/ref=pd_sim_b_title_4
There have been several studies done verifying that listening to complex, harmonious music (i.e. beethoven, bach, mozart, iron maiden, gnr etc.) sparks intelligence and creativity, while listening to someone talk over a one beat drum machine (e.g. Nelly, NAS) lowers intelligence and dulls creativity. Playing a musical instrument is even better for you. Just do a quick search:
http://www.google.com/search?q=music+makes+you+smart
As a matter of fact, Beethoven's 5th and 6th symphonies (opus 67 and 68 respectively) were written back to back and demonstrate the process of intelligence increase in musical form, with the crisis starting at the knocking of fate at the opening of opus 67 and traversing through the ex-stasis experience and ending in harmony in the pastoral symphony. The fact that listening to Beethoven dramatically increases intelligence has been proven time and again (http://www.amazon.com/Breakthrough-Thinking-Principles-Creative-Problem/dp/0761506489).
People are creatures of habit and their personalities are shaped by the things that they do. You will become your rituals(see: wilson's 23rd law). Of course, your personal experience will be different from everyone else, but chances are that if you are listening to this on a constant basis it's going to have a deep, life-long effect on your personality.
Oh wait. Video games and cable TV are fundamental human rights, and poor people should never sacrifice them to pay for education, healthcare, etc.
That's right. You should do the actual work to pay for their education and health care. We will collect this from you via a method we call taxation.
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>> If you want to talk about race, talk about why more african-americans are poor.
The real reason is rap music and BET. If you're filling your head with fantasies about rape, robbery, murder, and obscene materialism (bling bling) on a 24x7 basis, it's no wonder that you turn out violent and illiterate.
But the same thing is true of some white people with their "pro-drunk driving and wife beating music". Just look at the literacy rates of people who listen to Lee Greenwood and Toby Keith: It's next to zero.
It's not a shock that people who listen to Toby Keith end up being jack-booted jingoists or people that listen to Jay-Z and Dr. Dre end up morally bankrupt.
It's just simple programming:
Garbage in Garbage out.
Until you understand how this process works, you're not likely to be a game developer.
Agreed. If I had kids I would gladly pay more not to have them poisoned, just like I pay more to remove the fluoride from my water because I don't feel like having my bones or my central nervous system destroyed. Unfortunately, you can't go online and get a vaccine filter though, so for now the best solution is probably to read the insert that comes with the vaccine and avoid the doctor unless it is something absolutely life threatening.
I hate to say it, but it's probably a good natural selection mechanism anyway. People who are dumb enough to take this into there bodies will die, although it's a shame that their kids will end up mentally retarded. They didn't have any choice in the matter.
You're either a liar or a raving psychotic. There are thousands of studies proving that it is hazardous to human health.
Even the national autism association agrees that it's the cause the only probable cause of the current autism EPIDEMIC:
http://www.nationalautismassociation.org/thimerosal.php
Why is it even the vaccines to begin with?
It serves no function other than to poison people.
It's called the federal government
>>> Your statement may have been true 5 years ago but most of the Java industry has tried to move past Struts (including its author)
Well if Craig wanted to create a a JSR with JSF. JSF is much slower than Struts. Plus it has a massive session footprint. Plus it sucks working with JSF.
>>> Seriously, have you actually ever unit tested Struts code?
Well there is Struts test case, but if you have a good design, you shouldn't have any code that needs to be unit tested in a struts action. If you have code that needs to be tested in a struts action this is generally an indicator of poor design.
If you have a separate business/domain model that's been tested and validation module that's been tested, and there is no presentation logic to be tested since as I mentioned before, we are using Model 2, why would you need to to test your struts action?
If your controller contains business logic, then you've violated the MVC pattern.
>>> If you really want speed, why not just write your whole web app as a CGI using C/C++? I bet that would be a heck of a lot 'faster' than anything running in bytecode.
Sorry. It isn't. CGI/C++ is slower than Struts. I suspect this is because of the extra process overhead for each request and the fact that CGI in general is slow. Even standalone Java applications frequently out-perform standalone C++ apps depending on how your system was compiled. This is because the JVM can do optimization that frequently isn't done for native code. Also, once the JIT process completes you effectively have native code, which makes Java at worst, at least as fast as C++, but with a slightly higher heap footprint.
Not saying that Struts doesn't have problems (it does) but as far as I know, it still performs better than any web-app framework out there, which was what the original post was about
Maybe I need to clear up some confusion:
I am a Linux user(Gentoo) and I hate Microsoft. As a matter of fact, out of the 20 machines I have at home, not one runs any Microsoft product.
Just because someone doesn't like Google's business practices doesn't mean that they're a fan of Microsoft, except in some bizarre Manichean universe. If I had to rank the level of evil of technology companies I would probably rank them like so (from most evil to least evil):
1. IBM: For planning and orchestrating the Holocaust.
2. Microsoft/Gates Foundation: For subverting standards, engaging in Trademark infringement(e.g. java), and the socialist and eugenicist policies and actions of the Gates Foundation.
3. Yahoo: For engaging in censorship which has led to the incarceration of several political dissidents.
4. Google: For engaging in censorship and supporting counter-intelligence agencies against the American people.
5. Telecoms: For supporting counter-intelligence agencies against the American people.
Uh oh! I'm a Troll. Mental note: If you don't want to be despised, on slashdot, don't ever saying anything negative about Google or PERL.
"Quit confusing people with facts." - Bill O' Reilly
With their history of censorship and government complicity, I know I wouldn't. I don't even like using any of there products.
A lot of talk is made about making web applications scalable, but in reality, you're not likely to have 200 million users overnight. Facebook and MySpace have about 50 million users a piece, and the reason that they can't scale is because everyone who works at those places is a moron. I mean MySpace runs on Windows and SQLServer, and then they wonder why they can't handle the traffic, or there application is exposing bugs to end-users at a rate of tens of thousands per second.
If you can't support a web application with a million concurrent users, and 50k transactions a second on a $4000 piece of hardware, then that generally means one of four things is wrong:
1. You're paying way too much for hardware.
2. Your DB Server is slow as hell. For high performance try PostgreSQL or MySQL instead of Oracle/SQLServer.
3. You application platform sucks. Try J2EE/Model 2. I've worked with everything you can imagine and Struts 1/Velocity smokes any other web-application framework out there. On average, It's about 10,000 times faster than CGI/PERL. Don't believe me? Quit being a fan boy and actually do some experimenting yourself[1]. Try doing some load testing against the same application implemented in different languages and see for yourself.
4. Your code sucks. Try picking up some books on Design Patterns. If you can't tell me what a Flyweight is or explain how process and threading models work on your particular platform, then you shouldn't be writing web-applications.
[1] That's why they call it computer science not computer religion.
The phrase "domestic military operations" shows their true nature. The U.S. government is no longer trying to deny the fact that they have declared war on the people of the United States, so anyone who participates in this program is guilty of treason under Article III section III of the constitution.
It is Alabama after all. I'm sure he has a wife and three kids to support.
except write a moderately maintainable web application
dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves that we are virgins.
>> The only innovation that I credit to Microsoft in all its decades of existence is that of the CLR (.NET)
Uhh... Actually they stole that one too. Multiple languages were available for the JVM way before the CLR even existed:
http://www.robert-tolksdorf.de/vmlanguages.html
Support for multiple languages on the JVM has been around since 5/23/95 (the initial release date of the java platform to the public).
They government just hasn't gotten around to killing them yet. With Military and CIA recruiting down due to a sudden stroke of conscience in the U.S. Population, there is a domestic backlog. This situation will be solved by the new north american union when canadian and mexican troops are brought in to stop the uprising that will result for the upcoming engineered economic crisis.
If it's wave powered, why is he sailing it?
Also, regaining your land legs is easier from sea legs than it is from cavity search legs.