Do we need automobiles? How about heart surgery, or any other tool created by humans since the dawn of history. The internet is a great tool, and just like other tools it's not neccessary, but it improves the quality of life. Of course it not for everyone.
Well to be a little more exact. That wont necessarily cuase a segfault. its definitely going to corrupt some memory whether or not it produces is just a side effect. Its one of the reasons why overflow bugs are hard to debug, and find. Its probably the number one cuase of security exploits as well. When are developers going to learn how to use strncpy. Or maybe graduate to C++
GM, Ford, Chrysler crap companies have been making diesel vehicles since the early part of this century, but these usually take the form of large trucks. American companies never made *small* deisel cars which is why the first attempts really sucked, becuase yes they basically retrofitted gasoline engines. But American companies can make a good deisel engine... they have been doing it for years. BTW my dad has a gasoline S10 pickup with over 300,000 miles so dont give me that wrap about shitty American quality.
I had a tech lead who came from a military background. At first I though It would be a pain to work with this guy (coming from the military as he did), but he had some great insights about dealing with bureaucracy.
On rather crude but insightful tidbit he had, went something like this.
All upper management is looking for is a nice plush behind to stick it in. Its the job of your middle-manager or tech-lead to wave his/her butt around, intercept the phallus, and shield the techs so they can get their job done in comfort.
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Well you could look at it from a different approach. If the Afghan women wanted freedom and equal rights that badly then they would have made more of a fuss about it. The people are responsible for the actions of their government. Repeat after me...
A civilization is responsible for the actions of their government.
If the people where feeling repressed then they would have done something about it by now. I'm sure there is a minority that is oppressed but if widescale oppression was rampart the the general populace would have done something about it long ago. Its not a popular view, but one I think runs true.
Doh! this sucks, and its offtopic. My nameserver is smoking crack, the only thing it will resolve is slashdot.org (no I dont have root). Can someone
spout off a quick nameserver that I could temporarily.
I'm from Seattle, and last year taxpayer's paid hundreds of millions of dollars for a new baseball stadium, and I don't even like baseball, and now the owners have to audacity to get after fan site for re-broadcasting the stream. It kinda makes me sick.
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By the same token you have some good ISP you have their shit together (like speakeasy in Seattle). Speaking of DSL we got our lines upgraded, and we know get a solid 160K/sec Kilobyte a second not kilobit.
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speakeasy rocks....
They even have a litte coffee shop/cafe in seattle. Know a couple of the guys you work there. The people who run the tech really know what they are doing.
I installed the latest version and its pretty decent, I didnt like the previous version due to bloat city, and I am more of a GNOME guy then KDE2 (not to say one is better). Its funny that you mentioned it becuase I was thinking of taking Mandrake of the bad list. Maybe mandrake is a bad canidate for the "bad list" I just got burned by previous versions. I a little more old-school
Sooner or later, they had to keep it free so it would snowball. ITs actually a good service, I would be willing to pay for my account. As long as they dont do bandwidth charging.
I havent always agreed with Redhat's decisions in there distros, but for the most part I think that they know a good thing when they see it. The whole Sawfish/GTK/Nautilis/RPM/Evolution/AbiWord should be a good combo. This is basically the desktop that most linux geeks us right now.
It is interesting that people used to yearn for the days when linux would be a viable desktop alternate to windows. Now that it is starting to happen, all everyone can talk about is how RedHat is selling out.
I have mixed feelings about RedHats products. On on hand they produce a nice tight distro with easy to use installers, good packaging systems and consistants UI's (aka GNOME/GTK). They usually go with what the main stream linux geeks are using, and they arent afraid of using the latest and greatest in their products. Sometime this gets them in trouble (aka XFree4, and a dev version of gcc).
In the end I am glad that we have RedHat as the lead linux distributed. There are only a few companies that I would wish this on. Suse or RedHat. At least we dont have companies like Caldera or Corel taking the lead. At least Redhat has a sense of commitment to the geek community. Maybe becuase the people at Redhat are geeks themselves and they understand. On the other hand they have to make money if they are going to survive, and integrating with the marketplace is one of the things that have to do to stay afloat. The founders are living their dreams... Getting paid for what they would be doing even if the doe wasnt rolling in. I know this sounds like flamebait, and there are many distros I think are good, some are them are commercial and some are not. Here is a list of the good:
I'm having difficulty understanding why this project is underway. Sure I can understand doing it for nostalgic reasons, but there is'nt a market demand for it (Not to my knowledge). I havent heard of many companies running PDP-10s who need to backwards compatibility with old apps. From what I understand the PDP-10 had a rather primitive instruction set.
Maybe Im off my rocker. On the other people are porting to the Commie64, and Amiga (of course those are brilliant platforms... Anyway
I'm sorry but I had to do this. If the program is worth is weight in gold, then you have to consider how much the electrical charge weighs while in RAM. (probably not very much).
Anyway, I dont agree with you here. Not everybody has the option of owning a Macintosh, or spending the money to acquire a Mac. Some companies have policies against Macs in a network. I not slamming Apple, but dont blindly discount
"Free Linux tools that will take you hours to set up and won't work 100% right". A lot of these tools are very robust and easy to use. Its all a matter a perspective. Another thing to keep in mind, is just becuase a program has menus doesnt make it easy to use. By the same token just becuase a program is CLI (command line interface) doesnt make is hard to use.
I will agree with you about the $10,000 HP-UX software, that is a silly amount of money to pay to monitoring, and remote admin. Though it would be nice if you would tell us what software from HP-UX costs that much, and "sucks-ass" as you put.
It can be much higer quality, much more "on-demand," and have a higher profit/listener radio than traditional broadcasters. They need a new model.
Ok I agree with you that it can be "higher quality", and I agree that it can be "on demand", but I will have to totally disagree with concerning the profit/listener ratio. There are a couple of problems concerning webcasting. Where do you expect the profits to come from? In traditional media you have a local audio and local adverisements there is also a fairly clear demographic that you can target. With internet broadcasting there is no local regions or targets, everything in global, which make it a little harder to bordcast.
Also take into consideration that the volume of listeners is alot smaller for webcasting. The most popular station in shoutcast right now pulls about 700 people during peak hours. There is one more thing for you to chew on. In traditional radio there is an entrance fee for setting up the equipment which is expensive, but the cost of broadcasting remains fairly constant regardless of how many people are listening.
Webcaster on the other hand have a very low entrance fee, but the cost of broadcasting raises as the listener base increases. For instance I have a 768K DSL line, and I am streaming out a 128Kbps stream. Now each listener will suck approx 14K/sec of bandwidth (once you add TCP header etc..). so that means that means that I can support a total of about 50-52 listeners before my connection maxes out. My DSL connection cost me $140 a month. That means I spent roughhly $2.69 per listener, per month.
Ok lets take this picture and scale it up some.
A popular Seattle radio estimates that I gets about 110,000 listeners on avaerage. Lets apply a little math and see how much it would cost to supply a stream to that audience.
2.69 * 110000 = 269000.
Ok that is over a quarter-million dollars a month, so why dont you tell me how traditional media has a higher profit/listener ratio?
This is interesting, I would have thought Sony would make a BIG debut for the holiday season. You know pump out lots of machines, advertise like mad, and generally saturate the minds of the populace with PS2.
I think the trick is to keep within the tolerance levels, hold a little back in reserver in case something goes horrible wrong. On one hand they have this incredible machine that people have been drooling over for years now I have no doubt in my mind that people will snatch them up like they are going out of style. On the other hand what if they ship with a bug, or faulty hardware? Then have a bad rap for releasing a buggy machine, or in the worst case scenario they will have to recall all of the machines, and that could be an expensive proposition.
Or maybe they are having troubles scaling up the demand, and the supply cannot meet the demand.. like the problem that Apple was having with there Motorala chips.
It should be interesting to see what there excuse is. I know one thing though. Parents are going to be buying their kids game consoles for the holiday season, and if they cant get a PS2 then "Oh well", they will just pick up a Dreamcast or N64. I hope Sony knows what they are doing.
Is it free speech to be able to copy a work, or is it copyright infringement? These are questions that have come into the limelight recently.
this particular subject holds special meaning for me since I am a web-developer (of sorts). Anyway I spent *many* hours working on refined, and generally developing my site. The question I have is: "Is ripping off graphics, and website, then same as ripping off code, and/or is it the same as ripping off writton work?".
I would like to compare it with a great work of art, take for instance the Mona Lisa, there nothing is stopping someone from digatally copying it, and saying that he/she did it. Now of course that person will get laughed at, at flagged as an obvious plagarist. But happen when the work isnt so well known? Inspiration is a good thing, without inspiration, the intellectual evolution of man would slow to a crawl. Hence its of the emulate something and try to match a particualar work, in fact if someone likes my site enough to want to emulate it, then I feel honored, becuase it means that at least one person liked it so much that they wanted it for there own. But when your working with digital imagery the problem arising where the person can obtain perfect digital copies of you work, and reuse them. Then it turns into a insult to the original author, becuase you are stealing the work he/she poured all that effort into. Plagarism is wrong inspiration isnt, people need to know where to draw the line. There are no "gray areas" in computers, they are yes or no, there is no maybe, humans on the other hand live in the analog world, where most of our time is spent in the gray area. That is why computers, and copyright issues have become so prevalent recently.
Why would they make more money if that had linux. You are aware that it cost money to develop sofware. Anyway thy probably didnt choose linux becuase it was so great, but rather becuase they dont have to pay an expensive licensing fees for it. Hence they dont have to pay money for every print server they sell.
Anyway it is well known that linux is a better in in a server role, as opposed to a desktop, despite heroic efforts, (dont worry its getting there).
Its absolutely wonderful. Finally you can have an open-source operating system that is 100% compliant with netbios... lanman.. etc. Your favorite apps will work right out of the box.. like L0phtCrack
and for you CDC fans out there BackOrifice is installed by default!!..
This post has some merit. Unix people pay heed. I know plenty of people that have high uptimes with NT. Think about it, do you run XWindows on you high availability Web Server, Office Applications, games. No. Ill testify to the fact that the majority of BSODs can be directed linked to bad 3rd party drivers.
When properly administered NT can be be stable. I know its hard to admit to, but please try.
I dont run NT on my servers for diffret reasons. I have a strong belief that mission critical servers should not run GUIs... period. There is no point for a serious machine, one that you stake you business on, to have a GUI. UNIX is also very easy to customize. REmote administration on NT blows. developing mantainance code in NT is pain (PErl vs. Win32/MFC). The artitecture for UNIX is open, as opposes to windows which pretty much ties you into an all window solution.
My $0.02
-Nathan
Sorry I will hace to disagree with you on that point. Gasoline is a limited resource, and once the technology is available, and refined, then people will start using it more and more. If there is no reason not to use gasoline then people wont mind picking the alternatives. It is just going to take a long time. Gasoline has only been in use heavily for the last 100 years or so. That is a speck of sand in human history.... give it time. Human viewpoint can shift massively of over time.
Its not about performance... they can be no way this is about performance. Compaq, and Dell stick cheap IDE hardrive low memory, crappy sound cards, want to mention performance, what is up with the 2MB vid cards on most laptops? I know laptopss displays are only so big, but what about port replicators, and external monitors. PErformance my ass. These companies are going with Transmeta becuase if they do then they will probably lose their special Intel exclusive partnership. I mean really I have never been sitting at my laptop and had to say, damn P2300 this thing is soooos low, I mean..jezz I have to wait.00004 seconds for Word200 to spellcheck my 200pg document.
On the contrary I am usually sitting their waiting for the underpowered harddrive to slowly bring word, then to wait 15 seconds while I alt-tab to Netscape, and have to yank the entire app out of swap.
Most people dont use laptop for quake3, and Starcaft runs fine on a P200, linux will fly on a P200, (enlightenment wont if you the eye-candy on though, not to mention efm ). Anyway my point is that you could replace all of those P2s. and P3s laptop cpus with a P166 and 95% of people would even notice the tiniest burp. Only power-geeks only *really* notice stuff about that. So Dell, and Compaq are blowing crap out their asses again. Same crap, they want to keep the benefits that Intel provides ala M$ style. If you dont like that then its easy buy a Sony or Toshiba they both make nice laptops for ususally better prices than dells.
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Do we need automobiles? How about heart surgery, or any other tool created by humans since the dawn of history.
The internet is a great tool, and just like other tools it's not neccessary, but it improves the quality of life. Of course it not for everyone.
M$ cant write code, and their OS and apps are unsecure. Im going to use a UNIX derivitive becuase its more secure.....
Oh wait did you say sendmail......
Well to be a little more exact. That wont necessarily cuase a segfault. its definitely going to corrupt some memory whether or not it produces is just a side effect. Its one of the reasons why overflow bugs are hard to debug, and find. Its probably the number one cuase of security exploits as well. When are developers going to learn how to use strncpy.
Or maybe graduate to C++
GM, Ford, Chrysler crap companies have been making diesel vehicles since the early part of this century, but these usually take the form of large trucks. American companies never made *small* deisel cars which is why the first attempts really sucked, becuase yes they basically retrofitted gasoline engines. But American companies can make a good deisel engine... they have been doing it for years. BTW my dad has a gasoline S10 pickup with over 300,000 miles so dont give me that wrap about shitty American quality.
I had a tech lead who came from a military background. At first I though It would be a pain to work with this guy (coming from the military as he did), but he had some great insights about dealing with bureaucracy.
On rather crude but insightful tidbit he had, went something like this.
All upper management is looking for is a nice plush behind to stick it in. Its the job of your middle-manager or tech-lead to wave his/her butt around, intercept the phallus, and shield the techs so they can get their job done in comfort.
Well you could look at it from a different approach. If the Afghan women wanted freedom and equal rights that badly then they would have made more of a fuss about it. The people are responsible for the actions of their government. Repeat after me...
A civilization is responsible for the actions of their government.
If the people where feeling repressed then they would have done something about it by now. I'm sure there is a minority that is oppressed but if widescale oppression was rampart the the general populace would have done something about it long ago. Its not a popular view, but one I think runs true.
Doh! this sucks, and its offtopic. My nameserver is smoking crack, the only thing it will resolve is slashdot.org (no I dont have root). Can someone
spout off a quick nameserver that I could temporarily.
exactly...
I'm from Seattle, and last year taxpayer's paid hundreds of millions of dollars for a new baseball stadium, and I don't even like baseball, and now the owners have to audacity to get after fan site for re-broadcasting the stream. It kinda makes me sick.
By the same token you have some good ISP you have their shit together (like speakeasy in Seattle). Speaking of DSL we got our lines upgraded, and we know get a solid 160K/sec Kilobyte a second not kilobit.
speakeasy rocks.... They even have a litte coffee shop/cafe in seattle. Know a couple of the guys you work there. The people who run the tech really know what they are doing.
I installed the latest version and its pretty decent, I didnt like the previous version due to bloat city, and I am more of a GNOME guy then KDE2 (not to say one is better). Its funny that you mentioned it becuase I was thinking of taking Mandrake of the bad list. Maybe mandrake is a bad canidate for the "bad list" I just got burned by previous versions. I a little more old-school
Sooner or later, they had to keep it free so it would snowball. ITs actually a good service, I would be willing to pay for my account. As long as they dont do bandwidth charging.
It is interesting that people used to yearn for the days when linux would be a viable desktop alternate to windows. Now that it is starting to happen, all everyone can talk about is how RedHat is selling out.
I have mixed feelings about RedHats products. On on hand they produce a nice tight distro with easy to use installers, good packaging systems and consistants UI's (aka GNOME/GTK). They usually go with what the main stream linux geeks are using, and they arent afraid of using the latest and greatest in their products. Sometime this gets them in trouble (aka XFree4, and a dev version of gcc).
In the end I am glad that we have RedHat as the lead linux distributed. There are only a few companies that I would wish this on. Suse or RedHat. At least we dont have companies like Caldera or Corel taking the lead. At least Redhat has a sense of commitment to the geek community. Maybe becuase the people at Redhat are geeks themselves and they understand. On the other hand they have to make money if they are going to survive, and integrating with the marketplace is one of the things that have to do to stay afloat. The founders are living their dreams... Getting paid for what they would be doing even if the doe wasnt rolling in. I know this sounds like flamebait, and there are many distros I think are good, some are them are commercial and some are not. Here is a list of the good:
- Redhat
- Suse
- Debian
- Slackware (needs to get up to date)
And the bad- Corel
- Caldera
- Mandrake
Anway have lots of funI'm having difficulty understanding why this project is underway. Sure I can understand doing it for nostalgic reasons, but there is'nt a market demand for it (Not to my knowledge). I havent heard of many companies running PDP-10s who need to backwards compatibility with old apps. From what I understand the PDP-10 had a rather primitive instruction set.
Maybe Im off my rocker. On the other people are porting to the Commie64, and Amiga (of course those are brilliant platforms... Anyway
I'm sorry but I had to do this. If the program is worth is weight in gold, then you have to consider how much the electrical charge weighs while in RAM. (probably not very much).
Anyway, I dont agree with you here. Not everybody has the option of owning a Macintosh, or spending the money to acquire a Mac. Some companies have policies against Macs in a network. I not slamming Apple, but dont blindly discount "Free Linux tools that will take you hours to set up and won't work 100% right". A lot of these tools are very robust and easy to use. Its all a matter a perspective. Another thing to keep in mind, is just becuase a program has menus doesnt make it easy to use. By the same token just becuase a program is CLI (command line interface) doesnt make is hard to use.
I will agree with you about the $10,000 HP-UX software, that is a silly amount of money to pay to monitoring, and remote admin. Though it would be nice if you would tell us what software from HP-UX costs that much, and "sucks-ass" as you put.
Ok I agree with you that it can be "higher quality", and I agree that it can be "on demand", but I will have to totally disagree with concerning the profit/listener ratio. There are a couple of problems concerning webcasting. Where do you expect the profits to come from? In traditional media you have a local audio and local adverisements there is also a fairly clear demographic that you can target. With internet broadcasting there is no local regions or targets, everything in global, which make it a little harder to bordcast.
Also take into consideration that the volume of listeners is alot smaller for webcasting. The most popular station in shoutcast right now pulls about 700 people during peak hours. There is one more thing for you to chew on. In traditional radio there is an entrance fee for setting up the equipment which is expensive, but the cost of broadcasting remains fairly constant regardless of how many people are listening.
Webcaster on the other hand have a very low entrance fee, but the cost of broadcasting raises as the listener base increases. For instance I have a 768K DSL line, and I am streaming out a 128Kbps stream. Now each listener will suck approx 14K/sec of bandwidth (once you add TCP header etc..). so that means that means that I can support a total of about 50-52 listeners before my connection maxes out. My DSL connection cost me $140 a month. That means I spent roughhly $2.69 per listener, per month.
Ok lets take this picture and scale it up some. A popular Seattle radio estimates that I gets about 110,000 listeners on avaerage. Lets apply a little math and see how much it would cost to supply a stream to that audience.
2.69 * 110000 = 269000.
Ok that is over a quarter-million dollars a month, so why dont you tell me how traditional media has a higher profit/listener ratio?
I think the trick is to keep within the tolerance levels, hold a little back in reserver in case something goes horrible wrong. On one hand they have this incredible machine that people have been drooling over for years now I have no doubt in my mind that people will snatch them up like they are going out of style. On the other hand what if they ship with a bug, or faulty hardware? Then have a bad rap for releasing a buggy machine, or in the worst case scenario they will have to recall all of the machines, and that could be an expensive proposition.
Or maybe they are having troubles scaling up the demand, and the supply cannot meet the demand.. like the problem that Apple was having with there Motorala chips.
It should be interesting to see what there excuse is. I know one thing though. Parents are going to be buying their kids game consoles for the holiday season, and if they cant get a PS2 then "Oh well", they will just pick up a Dreamcast or N64. I hope Sony knows what they are doing.
this particular subject holds special meaning for me since I am a web-developer (of sorts). Anyway I spent *many* hours working on refined, and generally developing my site. The question I have is: "Is ripping off graphics, and website, then same as ripping off code, and/or is it the same as ripping off writton work?". I would like to compare it with a great work of art, take for instance the Mona Lisa, there nothing is stopping someone from digatally copying it, and saying that he/she did it. Now of course that person will get laughed at, at flagged as an obvious plagarist. But happen when the work isnt so well known? Inspiration is a good thing, without inspiration, the intellectual evolution of man would slow to a crawl. Hence its of the emulate something and try to match a particualar work, in fact if someone likes my site enough to want to emulate it, then I feel honored, becuase it means that at least one person liked it so much that they wanted it for there own. But when your working with digital imagery the problem arising where the person can obtain perfect digital copies of you work, and reuse them. Then it turns into a insult to the original author, becuase you are stealing the work he/she poured all that effort into. Plagarism is wrong inspiration isnt, people need to know where to draw the line. There are no "gray areas" in computers, they are yes or no, there is no maybe, humans on the other hand live in the analog world, where most of our time is spent in the gray area. That is why computers, and copyright issues have become so prevalent recently.
Just my $0.02
Why would they make more money if that had linux. You are aware that it cost money to develop sofware. Anyway thy probably didnt choose linux becuase it was so great, but rather becuase they dont have to pay an expensive licensing fees for it. Hence they dont have to pay money for every print server they sell.
Anyway it is well known that linux is a better in in a server role, as opposed to a desktop, despite heroic efforts, (dont worry its getting there).
L0phtCrack
and for you CDC fans out there BackOrifice is installed by default!!..
Ok it sounded better in my head... *sigh*
This post has some merit. Unix people pay heed. I know plenty of people that have high uptimes with NT. Think about it, do you run XWindows on you high availability Web Server, Office Applications, games. No. Ill testify to the fact that the majority of BSODs can be directed linked to bad 3rd party drivers. When properly administered NT can be be stable. I know its hard to admit to, but please try. I dont run NT on my servers for diffret reasons. I have a strong belief that mission critical servers should not run GUIs... period. There is no point for a serious machine, one that you stake you business on, to have a GUI. UNIX is also very easy to customize. REmote administration on NT blows. developing mantainance code in NT is pain (PErl vs. Win32/MFC). The artitecture for UNIX is open, as opposes to windows which pretty much ties you into an all window solution. My $0.02 -Nathan
Sorry I will hace to disagree with you on that point. Gasoline is a limited resource, and once the technology is available, and refined, then people will start using it more and more. If there is no reason not to use gasoline then people wont mind picking the alternatives. It is just going to take a long time. Gasoline has only been in use heavily for the last 100 years or so. That is a speck of sand in human history.... give it time. Human viewpoint can shift massively of over time.
I apologize for the horrible spelling and grammer. I accidently hit submit instead of preview.
On the contrary I am usually sitting their waiting for the underpowered harddrive to slowly bring word, then to wait 15 seconds while I alt-tab to Netscape, and have to yank the entire app out of swap.
Most people dont use laptop for quake3, and Starcaft runs fine on a P200, linux will fly on a P200, (enlightenment wont if you the eye-candy on though, not to mention efm ). Anyway my point is that you could replace all of those P2s. and P3s laptop cpus with a P166 and 95% of people would even notice the tiniest burp. Only power-geeks only *really* notice stuff about that. So Dell, and Compaq are blowing crap out their asses again. Same crap, they want to keep the benefits that Intel provides ala M$ style. If you dont like that then its easy buy a Sony or Toshiba they both make nice laptops for ususally better prices than dells.