so you start to rant because somebody questioned your ability? If you are as agile on the cli as you suggest you are, then why do you make assumptions about what 'end users' should like or not like?
I can hold my own on the command line, but I really cannot judge about less able users. The CLI on most distro's is for advanced stuff anyway, not for dumb end users. As long as they install their updates once in a while (and that can be done from the GUI too) they should be fine.
How far off is my assumption that you really are a 17 year old?
BTW, the summary is concise and extremely clear - I wonder why the parent talked about bureaucratic jargon ?
Because I didn't RTFA, you insensitive clod!
But what is this report good for? As far as I know, the EP can only make amandments at the next hearing if it has 50% of all members vote, not 50% of those voting. The hearing is scheduled in the holiday season...
PS mods: the report is talked about but not linked in the summary, why would a link to it be redundant?
If they alter their businessplan 'slightly' they might find a nice niche.
Get a smaller boat. 600 people on a few square meters will be too much distraction to get some work done. 60 + 5 will be much better. A smaller ship has the advantage that it goes slower. (or get a sailboat == more fun)
Now plan a trip not longer than three weeks. try to visit places that are attractive in the brochure, and take some time to get in between.
Get some(a lot actually) laptops with the right motion sensors and rig up a desktop backgrond that moves with the movement of the ship, providing an artificial horizon. (so coders don't get sea sick as long as they watch their screens;-)
Get some motivational trainers/bootcamp instructors that know how to get everybody working their asses off.
Now have your customers == software companies send their coding teams, along with the specs of what needs to be done (specs can be in the form of a few customers, they'll like it too).
The deal is this: you are expected to finish your projects milestones on time. Each milestone is planned to coincide with the arrival at a nice tropical island. getting there is a bit boring voyage with the ship, so you'll have not much else to do but code. Distractions like internet are only available while at anchor. So everything is geared towards getting your projects milestones done before the party can start.
the advantage for a coder is that he gets a paid holiday to the tropics. The advantage to the software company is that they get their projects done on time, and they increase the cohesion of their coding team (bad apples will show up under stress, so you can weed them out there). And the advantage to the boat company is that they run a business in the tropics(and get paid for it).
Windows and Mac both don't have a dependency check in their pakage tools: for windows you hope that the installer program is not braindead, for the Mac you just plonk your app somewhere.
That may be nice for a casual installed package that is later removed, but is a nightmare compared to the blessing of apt-get or yum.
What would be nice is a extension to apt so apt can install single packages, and packages can add new sources to sources list. That way you can cater for software not in the central repository (for whatever reason, could be money)
People will install software they have found somewhere anyhow, so you'd better make sure it is not a tarball that is impossible to remove afterwards, but a friendly package that installs the later updates at the same time. (and makes it possible to remove the stuff later on)./configure && make&& make install is to be avoided on a modern Linux distro, that package manager is there for a reason!
except that clicktrough rates are typically around 1% or less. So to avoid being detected by google as fraudulend clicker, your 1000 pc's need to view a lot of pages for each adsense-click, and you need to do that in a more or less human-like pattern. So dong your clicks at 10 per second all day and night will quickly label you as fraudulent.
Write them before you write the new features, to test for the new features.
This will save you eons when you are actually coding. Way too many testers are still wasting their time with manually going through the ssame maotion again and again to make sure it all works as expected.
This story has no posts, just when I tought it would be nice to read from others how they think about design problems.
All I can suggest is: keep a strict separation between features and implementation. do some use cases that describe how the most important part (the user) will handle the program.
And think ahead, your designs will change while building/deploying. How are you going to accomodate that?
So it is a proxy server that strips out/reduces the needless graphics and plugins, but keeps the content intact? (No I did not rtfa)
Wouldn't that be a very convenient point to slip some cencorship/big brother in the stream?
Most of these nations have a poor reputation wrt freedoms as such, so I would be very wary if it were gouvernment officials that are enthousiastic about the development.
-- (imagine a beowulf cluster of gouvernment officials, oh wait that _is_ the gouvernment already. scary)
Therefore, Fortinet is surprised that Mr. Welte pursued a preliminary injunction against Fortinet in Germany and believes that this is an unnecessary action," the company said. "Fortinet is continuing its efforts to expeditiously resolve this matter with Mr. Welte."
The same thing happened with sitecom, they were willing to comply, but that takes more than the 4 weeks mr welte set as an utlimatum.
Mr Welte is giving a clear message: don't use linux unless you know precisely what you are doing". As most Managers do not know what they are doing, this will scare them away from using linux.
(the news.comcommer article also states that initrd is the point of contentention, shouldn't that be netfilter/iptables?)
If You RTFA, you'd have noticed that they are so busy patting their own backs, that they forgot to post a real howto. where are the schematics, the PCB layouts, the blueprints for the design? Nowhere to be found, but you can sure see who is the ueber disco geek.
So because you felt bad about it, you think that people that prefer cp should be prosecuted, right?
The same should go for gayporn then? A lot of people are disgusted by that too.
I don't think that childporn looks good, or that child molesting should be legal. But I get very wary when somebody wants something to be prohibited because they 'feel' that it is immoral. There is very little arguing you can do with such an argument. Maybe you should look at it from the other side too: Assume that a certain percentage of people are attracted to little kids(just like 5-10% prefer the same sex, 0.1% prefer little kids). Everybody has sexual desires that they seek to satisfy, so what would you rather have, that he watches some kiddie porn and wanks off, or that he does not watch the cp, but goes for the real thing instead? Do you care about the kid, or do you care about the kiddie porn? So if you want to crack down on cp (driving the price up and making it an interesting market for criminals), I'd say that you should make very sure that the effect on child molestations is positive. Claiming a moral high ground does not do that.
"Yelling racist when something isn't = Liberal" No it is not. It is a bit stupid, but I very much doubt that there is any political movement founded on false accusations of racism. Of course since you hate liberals so much (why, it's slimy polititcs ffs!) you qualify anything you think is stupid as 'Liberal'
And I too think the joke was racist. replace 'black' with 'jew' or 'arian people' to see for yourself.
This move is good for the rest of the world. I the Idiots that run the USA nowadays, then all that potential will seek somewhere else to go. And a lot of high potentials will choose not to live in that big banana republic. So just like any raid from the BSA is stimulating Linux adoption, this stupidity will benefit the rest of the world.
Sco already has the documents of their own courtcase, so they have every rigth to use those. If PJ wants to fuck over SCO she should make every document a derived work, which can be copyrigted itself. Add a few comments and sprinkle the original document with some typos and sue SCO if they just remove the comments. But PJ has already stated that GL will not sue them for this, as changing court documents will underminde GL's credibility.
Why do you think that this clown is going to pay, or is even able to pay? It is not his product, so if nobody succeeds he can say 'his' OS is the best, but when somebody does succeed he can rightly say "it not my fault, i'd didnt write this stuff."
So there you have it. Besides, who is going to spog that well known AV manufacturer to put an extra payload in the new virus updates that they will need. Looks like a nice vector to me (company with intent, capacity to pull it off, and the sourcecode to one of the closed apps on the target).
Look at how many projects in freshmeat are at at version 0.5 and haven't been touched in a year.
Well as one of those thousants, i have this to reply: You have to try, to succeed. As a developer it can be very hard to find out if you are the only one having that itch, so you just put your app out there and see if you get any response. And when you've never done that you think it is cool to do, a little boost for your ego.
To get a thriving free software culture you need both people that try, and people with a bigger than average ego. The world does not gain from timid people that are too afraid to tell about their creation or that they failed. They just don't register on the google scale...
If you demand of a gouvernment to never to try and fail, then maybe some uninhabited island in the polar region is better suited for you.
If you local government does stupid things by spending large amounts on art or software without requiring something substantial back, that does not make art or software bad. It just shows that morons exist everywhere, even in your gouvernment, and there are always people willing to profit of it.
We had a similar subsidised art system here too, the warehouses were stacked to the brim with art that was delivered in return for the grants. With (Free) software it is different: an overflowing warehouse of software would be very good for the rest of the world as everybody could use it (unlike art objects).
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so you start to rant because somebody questioned your ability? If you are as agile on the cli as you suggest you are, then why do you make assumptions about what 'end users' should like or not like?
I can hold my own on the command line, but I really cannot judge about less able users. The CLI on most distro's is for advanced stuff anyway, not for dumb end users. As long as they install their updates once in a while (and that can be done from the GUI too) they should be fine.
How far off is my assumption that you really are a 17 year old?
Or maybe he is just producing a paper towel to stop the bleeding (...nose after european democracy took those hits from the patent lobby).
Because I didn't RTFA, you insensitive clod!
But what is this report good for? As far as I know, the EP can only make amandments at the next hearing if it has 50% of all members vote, not 50% of those voting. The hearing is scheduled in the holiday season...
PS mods: the report is talked about but not linked in the summary, why would a link to it be redundant?
beware of the pdf.
5 pages of bureaucrat speak i am not going to post on slashdot.
If they alter their businessplan 'slightly' they might find a nice niche.
;-)
Get a smaller boat. 600 people on a few square meters will be too much distraction to get some work done. 60 + 5 will be much better. A smaller ship has the advantage that it goes slower. (or get a sailboat == more fun)
Now plan a trip not longer than three weeks. try to visit places that are attractive in the brochure, and take some time to get in between.
Get some(a lot actually) laptops with the right motion sensors and rig up a desktop backgrond that moves with the movement of the ship, providing an artificial horizon. (so coders don't get sea sick as long as they watch their screens
Get some motivational trainers/bootcamp instructors that know how to get everybody working their asses off.
Now have your customers == software companies send their coding teams, along with the specs of what needs to be done (specs can be in the form of a few customers, they'll like it too).
The deal is this: you are expected to finish your projects milestones on time. Each milestone is planned to coincide with the arrival at a nice tropical island. getting there is a bit boring voyage with the ship, so you'll have not much else to do but code. Distractions like internet are only available while at anchor. So everything is geared towards getting your projects milestones done before the party can start.
the advantage for a coder is that he gets a paid holiday to the tropics. The advantage to the software company is that they get their projects done on time, and they increase the cohesion of their coding team (bad apples will show up under stress, so you can weed them out there). And the advantage to the boat company is that they run a business in the tropics(and get paid for it).
UV lighting would kill your plants in no time. chlorophile absorbs in the visible spectrum, the most around the yellow wavelength IIRC.
Besides, you can just grow pot in your own backyard, or some out-of-sight land nobody seems to care about/look after.
Or if you want it more expensive: do the indoor cultivation thing and only use the stuff for yourself, lots of people do it that way.
Wath do you expect with 'Linux from Scratch?'
Use aproper distro with a big properly maintained repository.
Windows and Mac both don't have a dependency check in their pakage tools: for windows you hope that the installer program is not braindead, for the Mac you just plonk your app somewhere.
./configure && make&& make install is to be avoided on a modern Linux distro, that package manager is there for a reason!
That may be nice for a casual installed package that is later removed, but is a nightmare compared to the blessing of apt-get or yum.
What would be nice is a extension to apt so apt can install single packages, and packages can add new sources to sources list. That way you can cater for software not in the central repository (for whatever reason, could be money)
People will install software they have found somewhere anyhow, so you'd better make sure it is not a tarball that is impossible to remove afterwards, but a friendly package that installs the later updates at the same time. (and makes it possible to remove the stuff later on)
except that clicktrough rates are typically around 1% or less. So to avoid being detected by google as fraudulend clicker, your 1000 pc's need to view a lot of pages for each adsense-click, and you need to do that in a more or less human-like pattern. So dong your clicks at 10 per second all day and night will quickly label you as fraudulent.
"...with a cheese grater in a couple of steps"
where is that step?
Write them before you write the new features, to test for the new features.
This will save you eons when you are actually coding. Way too many testers are still wasting their time with manually going through the ssame maotion again and again to make sure it all works as expected.
This story has no posts, just when I tought it would be nice to read from others how they think about design problems.
All I can suggest is: keep a strict separation between features and implementation.
do some use cases that describe how the most important part (the user) will handle the program.
And think ahead, your designs will change while building/deploying. How are you going to accomodate that?
So if you have to choose between putting up a server yourself, doing non-accelerated surfing, or using the gouvernment provided server.
Tough choice, really.
So it is a proxy server that strips out/reduces the needless graphics and plugins, but keeps the content intact? (No I did not rtfa)
Wouldn't that be a very convenient point to slip some cencorship/big brother in the stream?
Most of these nations have a poor reputation wrt freedoms as such, so I would be very wary if it were gouvernment officials that are enthousiastic about the development.
--
(imagine a beowulf cluster of gouvernment officials, oh wait that _is_ the gouvernment already. scary)
The same thing happened with sitecom, they were willing to comply, but that takes more than the 4 weeks mr welte set as an utlimatum.
Mr Welte is giving a clear message: don't use linux unless you know precisely what you are doing". As most Managers do not know what they are doing, this will scare them away from using linux.
(the news.comcommer article also states that initrd is the point of contentention, shouldn't that be netfilter/iptables?)
If You RTFA, you'd have noticed that they are so busy patting their own backs, that they forgot to post a real howto. where are the schematics, the PCB layouts, the blueprints for the design? Nowhere to be found, but you can sure see who is the ueber disco geek.
/.? Some geeks wanking their dicks?
Why is this on
So because you felt bad about it, you think that people that prefer cp should be prosecuted, right?
The same should go for gayporn then? A lot of people are disgusted by that too.
I don't think that childporn looks good, or that child molesting should be legal. But I get very wary when somebody wants something to be prohibited because they 'feel' that it is immoral. There is very little arguing you can do with such an argument.
Maybe you should look at it from the other side too: Assume that a certain percentage of people are attracted to little kids(just like 5-10% prefer the same sex, 0.1% prefer little kids). Everybody has sexual desires that they seek to satisfy, so what would you rather have, that he watches some kiddie porn and wanks off, or that he does not watch the cp, but goes for the real thing instead?
Do you care about the kid, or do you care about the kiddie porn? So if you want to crack down on cp (driving the price up and making it an interesting market for criminals), I'd say that you should make very sure that the effect on child molestations is positive. Claiming a moral high ground does not do that.
Is it something you don't get if you make enough inflamatory posts?
no text to fullfill the cutyour tongue filter. There is no usefull text here.
"Yelling racist when something isn't = Liberal"
No it is not. It is a bit stupid, but I very much doubt that there is any political movement founded on false accusations of racism. Of course since you hate liberals so much (why, it's slimy polititcs ffs!) you qualify anything you think is stupid as 'Liberal'
And I too think the joke was racist. replace 'black' with 'jew' or 'arian people' to see for yourself.
This move is good for the rest of the world. I the Idiots that run the USA nowadays, then all that potential will seek somewhere else to go. And a lot of high potentials will choose not to live in that big banana republic.
So just like any raid from the BSA is stimulating Linux adoption, this stupidity will benefit the rest of the world.
Soooo... Thanks BushyBoy!
Sco already has the documents of their own courtcase, so they have every rigth to use those. If PJ wants to fuck over SCO she should make every document a derived work, which can be copyrigted itself. Add a few comments and sprinkle the original document with some typos and sue SCO if they just remove the comments. But PJ has already stated that GL will not sue them for this, as changing court documents will underminde GL's credibility.
Why do you think that this clown is going to pay, or is even able to pay? It is not his product, so if nobody succeeds he can say 'his' OS is the best, but when somebody does succeed he can rightly say "it not my fault, i'd didnt write this stuff."
So there you have it. Besides, who is going to spog that well known AV manufacturer to put an extra payload in the new virus updates that they will need. Looks like a nice vector to me (company with intent, capacity to pull it off, and the sourcecode to one of the closed apps on the target).
and I will not be paying EUR 0.02 for this crap!
Well as one of those thousants, i have this to reply: You have to try, to succeed. As a developer it can be very hard to find out if you are the only one having that itch, so you just put your app out there and see if you get any response. And when you've never done that you think it is cool to do, a little boost for your ego.
To get a thriving free software culture you need both people that try, and people with a bigger than average ego. The world does not gain from timid people that are too afraid to tell about their creation or that they failed. They just don't register on the google scale...
If you demand of a gouvernment to never to try and fail, then maybe some uninhabited island in the polar region is better suited for you.
If you local government does stupid things by spending large amounts on art or software without requiring something substantial back, that does not make art or software bad. It just shows that morons exist everywhere, even in your gouvernment, and there are always people willing to profit of it.
We had a similar subsidised art system here too, the warehouses were stacked to the brim with art that was delivered in return for the grants. With (Free) software it is different: an overflowing warehouse of software would be very good for the rest of the world as everybody could use it (unlike art objects).