Yes, BeOS demise was partly due to the lack of software and drivers. But there is also a hint of moment 22 in here.
Why wouldn't companies develop drivers or software for BeOS? Because there wasn't enough users at the time. Why wouldn't the users choose BeOS? Because there wasn't enough software or drivers at the time AND because most OEM manufacturers woudn't preinstall BeOS on boxes.The fact that Microsofts license agreements stopped the OEMs from preinstalling other OSs is probably why they (he/she) have choosen to sue Microsoft.
It was really a pity to see BeOS go, I had a feeling that they were just about to get over the userbase threshold and out of the moment 22 area, just as the financiers decided to pull the plug.
Wasn't there some company that were experimenting with a digital back that was shaped as an ordinary roll of camera film? That seemed like an excellent idea to me at the time, because then you could use the camera best suited the situation. Anyone know what happened to that technology?
...enhance the sense of reality, smells including burned charcoal can be pumped into the room.' It almost makes me want to write off college and join the army...
Yeah, you do that. You'll probably end up as telecom guy or something like that, taken into account that you probably study something computer related. My guess is that you would never set your foot near any of these simulators.
Also, reading the article you get the impression it's mostly used as a tool in training commanding officers in decision making. Not the "regular" FPS you probably was hoping to play.
Yeah, I heard rumors that the US Army used a modified version of Doom(!) as a combat simulator. Don't know if they actually used it or if it was just a test, but this surely looks like some further development of that stuff.
Like, "technology has reached the needed level of realism", or something...
Yeah, I found this old link... Seems like the old memory is still functional.
Compare Quake and Doom. Quake had far, far better eye candy, but Doom was the better and more playable game.
Uhm... Exactly how was Doom more playable than Quake? Better controls? Better mood?
Yes, in single player mode Doom kicked Quake's ass, mostly because it was the most visually appealling game at the time. Quake otoh survived very long as a multiplayer game, much longer than Doom.
From article: But although PC gamers have taken the lime light recently, every true PC gamer and most PC users in general can trace their roots back to the earliest of computer-entertainment devices: videogame consoles.
Most people I know started out on Commodore 64, Sinclair or some of the other early home computers. In fact, I think most people that started out on computers are still gaming on computers (PC). Those that started out on consoles still pretty much run consoles.
I would also like to add that in "my" opinion, the problem isn't the illegal copying, the problem is the overpriced CDs.
Here in Sweden, most CDs cost more than $15 and an empty CD cost less than $1. Considering that the music companies probably don't even pay anything near $1/CD when pressing them, you'll wonder where all the money goes?
Yes, they do have marketing costs, recording costs and salaries, but do the really need a $10(?) margin for every CD sold? And IIRC, LPs cost around $6 to $10. Don't try to tell me that it would be more expensive pressing CDs than LPs. Guess they noticed that ppl would still buy CDs at a much higher price even after they reduced the manufacturing costs.
I don't think most people would go through the hassle of downloading and burning CDs if they could get an original press for, let's say, 6 to 8 dollars?
But I guess it is easier for them to sell 5 CDs than 15 and still make the same amount of money. Logistic costs and stuff like that.
>But this has been said before, last time it was about in-car CD players not playing protected disks...We can only hope public intolerance is cumulative, and people will start to vote with their wallets, because that's the only way things like this will stop
Isn't it funny that these are the companies that said napster damaged their business? Now they are working their asses off to make every average Joe that used to buy his CDs legally into an audio pirate. When ppl learn that the CDs they bought at the store won't work in their very expensive players, they will probably start looking for other places to get CDs that works the way they want.
My guess is that the only ones that will make any money out of these protection schemes are people that sell unburned CDs and the real pirates.
Yeah, but... Move on to what, exactly? I can now honestly say that there is no desktop OS out there that I find the least attractive. Haven't looked at OSX yet though. Might give it a shot...
But yes, it is kindda the same feeling as when Escom bought Amiga. But I don't think BeOS users will succeed in persuading Palm to continue BeOS, like the Amiga users did. They are not nearly as many or nearly as fanatic.:)
My point of view comes from my (rather limited) knowledge of japanese kenjutsu, where the warriors trained with either bokken (very accurately balanced and weighed wooden swords) or live blades. All in the sake of realistic practice.
Oh, for Christ's sake. I hope, for your own sake, that before you hit high school, or should you make it that far, college or university, that you learn how to do basic research. Typing 'roman practice sword' into Google returns, for example, this [bates.edu]:
So, you are educated, huh..? Well, then you should know better than to put too much trust into personal homepages.
Further examination of the google results for the above mentioned search [legionxxiv.org] even reveal that the Romans had a word for it:
RUDIS - A practice sword made of wood
Ok, so where do they say taht this RUDIS weigh twice as much as an iron sword? I didn't argue againts their use of wooden practice swords, just the use of too heavy practice swords.
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Yes, BeOS demise was partly due to the lack of software and drivers. But there is also a hint of moment 22 in here.
Why wouldn't companies develop drivers or software for BeOS? Because there wasn't enough users at the time. Why wouldn't the users choose BeOS? Because there wasn't enough software or drivers at the time AND because most OEM manufacturers woudn't preinstall BeOS on boxes.The fact that Microsofts license agreements stopped the OEMs from preinstalling other OSs is probably why they (he/she) have choosen to sue Microsoft.
It was really a pity to see BeOS go, I had a feeling that they were just about to get over the userbase threshold and out of the moment 22 area, just as the financiers decided to pull the plug.
Who is this Oscar guy, anyway?
Wasn't there some company that were experimenting with a digital back that was shaped as an ordinary roll of camera film? That seemed like an excellent idea to me at the time, because then you could use the camera best suited the situation. Anyone know what happened to that technology?
"Pretty soon"?
I'd say now.
It's a long time since I read the books, but doesn't the first movie cover the first book and a small part of the second?
Might be wrong though, was some time ago.
No no, it was C64 Basic. ;)
From article:
...Accounts differ about what happened to situation normal, all fucked up that deal...
Can somebody please explain?
...enhance the sense of reality, smells including burned charcoal can be pumped into the room.' It almost makes me want to write off college and join the army...
Yeah, you do that. You'll probably end up as telecom guy or something like that, taken into account that you probably study something computer related. My guess is that you would never set your foot near any of these simulators.
Also, reading the article you get the impression it's mostly used as a tool in training commanding officers in decision making. Not the "regular" FPS you probably was hoping to play.
Yeah, I heard rumors that the US Army used a modified version of Doom(!) as a combat simulator. Don't know if they actually used it or if it was just a test, but this surely looks like some further development of that stuff.
Like, "technology has reached the needed level of realism", or something...
Yeah, I found this old link... Seems like the old memory is still functional.
Compare Quake and Doom. Quake had far, far better eye candy, but Doom was the better and more playable game.
Uhm... Exactly how was Doom more playable than Quake? Better controls? Better mood?
Yes, in single player mode Doom kicked Quake's ass, mostly because it was the most visually appealling game at the time. Quake otoh survived very long as a multiplayer game, much longer than Doom.
Loom? Monkey island kicked Loom's ass any day. :)
From article:
But although PC gamers have taken the lime light recently, every true PC gamer and most PC users in general can trace their roots back to the earliest of computer-entertainment devices: videogame consoles.
Most people I know started out on Commodore 64, Sinclair or some of the other early home computers. In fact, I think most people that started out on computers are still gaming on computers (PC). Those that started out on consoles still pretty much run consoles.
But that's just my buddies... Might differ...
Ok, then maybe you should try this browser instead.
Yes, I saw the sarcasm there. But seriously, why shouldn't you be able to run a browser on a relatively "modern" computer?
Heh, all I have to do then is finding a station that plays complete albums. :)
But, good point.
I would also like to add that in "my" opinion, the problem isn't the illegal copying, the problem is the overpriced CDs.
Here in Sweden, most CDs cost more than $15 and an empty CD cost less than $1. Considering that the music companies probably don't even pay anything near $1/CD when pressing them, you'll wonder where all the money goes?
Yes, they do have marketing costs, recording costs and salaries, but do the really need a $10(?) margin for every CD sold? And IIRC, LPs cost around $6 to $10. Don't try to tell me that it would be more expensive pressing CDs than LPs. Guess they noticed that ppl would still buy CDs at a much higher price even after they reduced the manufacturing costs.
I don't think most people would go through the hassle of downloading and burning CDs if they could get an original press for, let's say, 6 to 8 dollars?
But I guess it is easier for them to sell 5 CDs than 15 and still make the same amount of money. Logistic costs and stuff like that.
>But this has been said before, last time it was about in-car CD players not playing protected disks...We can only hope public intolerance is cumulative, and people will start to vote with their wallets, because that's the only way things like this will stop
Isn't it funny that these are the companies that said napster damaged their business? Now they are working their asses off to make every average Joe that used to buy his CDs legally into an audio pirate. When ppl learn that the CDs they bought at the store won't work in their very expensive players, they will probably start looking for other places to get CDs that works the way they want.
My guess is that the only ones that will make any money out of these protection schemes are people that sell unburned CDs and the real pirates.
Yeah, but... Move on to what, exactly? I can now honestly say that there is no desktop OS out there that I find the least attractive. Haven't looked at OSX yet though. Might give it a shot...
:)
But yes, it is kindda the same feeling as when Escom bought Amiga. But I don't think BeOS users will succeed in persuading Palm to continue BeOS, like the Amiga users did. They are not nearly as many or nearly as fanatic.
>Besides, Linux w/KDE will fast provide anything you could have got from BEOS.
LOL... In your dreams, AC.
Lol... Never thought about that. Good point.
> If Xbox flops (EXTREMELY UNLIKELY) then maybe they'll take a hit, other than that, you sound dumb.
Uhm... Maybe you should check how much of MS budget went into xbox, before making such statements. You may sound dumb otherwise.
Well, in that case MS would probably be better off "releasing" documents stating that "Linux is no longer a threat" to the public.
I think that would have a far greater FUD impact than "Linux is our biggest threat"?
Yes, that makes much sense.
My point of view comes from my (rather limited) knowledge of japanese kenjutsu, where the warriors trained with either bokken (very accurately balanced and weighed wooden swords) or live blades. All in the sake of realistic practice.
Ok, I'm convinced it's correct... But it still sounds like a foolish idea to me... =)
Oh, for Christ's sake. I hope, for your own sake, that before you hit high school, or should you make it that far, college or university, that you learn how to do basic research. Typing 'roman practice sword' into Google returns, for example, this [bates.edu]:
So, you are educated, huh..? Well, then you should know better than to put too much trust into personal homepages.
Further examination of the google results for the above mentioned search [legionxxiv.org] even reveal that the Romans had a word for it:
RUDIS - A practice sword made of wood
Ok, so where do they say taht this RUDIS weigh twice as much as an iron sword? I didn't argue againts their use of wooden practice swords, just the use of too heavy practice swords.
Some links:
The patent
The company with the patent.
Wired article