yes you do. They do a thing on your credit card (maybe debit card too) that doesn't remove the money but checks if it could.
OR , cause I just had a flash in my mind, they take it and then either undo the transaction or put it back (I only heard recently that people could put money straight back in your card)
I took a x86 AMD Opteron workstation. Kept it for a while, like few months and then called them up about 10/15 days before the end of the "consideration trial". I basically bought my self some time before getting my amd phenom.. I didn't get the sparc because.. well, I wasn't really sure Sun Os, Solaris, was the right thing. And it didn't start well, as soon as they delivered it (for free, as well as when they take it back) the system couldn't boot. Something corrupted on the hard drive ? Maybe a fucked up sector ? Anyway, no problem, I install it again. NO, WAIT, no damn dvd with Solaris nor OpenSolaris.
I download it, with my mac, install it and then realize how far is OpenSolaris on the desktop, not mentioning I'm a unix geek and software developer on C++/java/python.
Debian..yeah, it was far far easier to get gcc and other GNU stuff, which let me say it, it's much better than other OSs.. grep is my favourite example:)
All right, sorry for the semi-hot topic, just giving you my experience with that trial. BTW, the hardware however noisy was very solid and.. fast too.
Mod accordingly (Redundant?)
Re:Non-Tech Percent of Web Traffic from Chrome
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Google Chrome, Day 2
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· Score: 1
Sadly true.
There should be a check in order of : we see you're using linux, but this is the page you request so there you are.
If instead you wanted linux click here.
Sorry mate, but.. how about instead of paying PC makers to preinstall, it goes and puts a nice link to chrome from google.com webpage ? OR All of them?
You know, they call it The Internet Entry point.
Imagine a day without google..
do they stop people with iPods? Someone said the same thing, put the stuff in a SD within your camera or something.
That would def work, or even better, leave the stuff online somewhere and reach it once you are on the other side with ssh.
How well ? Good enough.
They don't have any clue what linux is.
They don't have any IT degree right ?
Actually, if they even *SEE* linux they might think you are a terrorist/communist/american_favourite_evil.
So yeah, I like your idea.
Also, I suggest truecrypt with the drive within the drive.. that gives you deniability, doesn't it ?
Yeah I see why an ISP wouldn't want to do that just because.
But RIAA/MPAA/BSA , whatever is their name in your country, are constantly bribing GOVS and law makers.
Is not like we haven't seen anything, you probably saw as much as I did here on slashdot.
Lets keep fingers crossed.
Oh well, while very hard, its very very easy to do for a provider/ISP.
Now, I am not sure how much computing power would be required to do on the fly everything,
but CPU are going up, parallel computing is going up and governments may ask ISP to just do that.
How about then?
Well, they will then need to block all ssh or ssl (any web shop with credit card, or bank account or https website)
will then be not allowed.
So forget about remote in from home to your work.
Naaa.They can't do that.
But thing is, even with encryption, you need to exchange keys and someone in the middle (MITMA) could just make you think everything you are doing is safe while they are copying data back and forth and in the meantime, why not, reading it.
You need an other mean to exchange keys, and , while you can do that with friends, its quite hard with someone you know nothing about in a p2p network..
Never heard of public encryption ?
You need someone public key to send them data and only them can read it.
You can also sign it with your private key so that nobody else could have sent that data. (If you sent them your public key)
The problem though is man in the middle. Who can you be sure the public key you've got is their public key and not GOV public key?
The BitTorrent (say azureus) encryption as far as I know is not really encryption.
System like freenet and ant and mute are much better but we really need to move there in masses to make them worth.
At the moment, pain slow..
Something like DirectConnect, encrypted, invitation only, would kinda of work for small set of users..at that point you want in the set someone outside UK that can freely download from all other P2P, without bothering with encryption.
Re:You need to clarify your question
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Ethics In IT
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Think of it as the difference between a politician and a serial killer. Sorry, what difference again ?
Immoral your ass ? Listen smart ass, bit torrent is just a protocol. Like smtp/pop/imap (email) http/https (web) samba (windows file sharing) and what not.
You could be sharing with bittorrent your wedding video, your picture, a linux distribution, some updates for video games, some university public lectures and what not.
Don't tell US that we should ban knives only because you can use them to kill people.
Or cars, since here on/. we like so much car analogies.
This is just crazy.
If they do that, then I will put on my effort to recreate one page every day, with a different name.
Is like the fact they can build a mosque in rome but then don't allow to put a church there.
And I'm a jew!:)
Completely agree with you.
And most of the time I look up at the dev of the application and.. I get even more suspicious.
I have no application installed.. they bloat you home page, and more importantly, they make dump people sending you
hundreds of [stupid¦evil] notifications.
HATE IT.
It might be interesting if you could give granularity to the access they've got.
The 2000 vs 5000 password problem is not really clear to me.
Anyone can explain better ?
And I partially agree on the other things he said, basically inbound and outbound default DROP/DENY and investing on teaching to
workers rather than spending money on antivirus software only..but does that mean he is out of antivirus business ? Why would HE suggest that ?
Slashdot Mirror
...and no current cause has been identified.
Sure thing, how about you finished most of it during school age ? ..
I didn't say with other people
You Sir, never heard of protections.
Lord Gold One
Isn't that how Jesus was born ?
yes you do.
They do a thing on your credit card (maybe debit card too) that doesn't remove the money but checks if it could.
OR , cause I just had a flash in my mind, they take it and then either undo the transaction or put it back (I only heard recently that people could put money straight back in your card)
I took a x86 AMD Opteron workstation. .. .. well, I wasn't really sure Sun Os, Solaris, was the right thing.
Kept it for a while, like few months and then called them up about 10/15 days before the end of the "consideration trial".
I basically bought my self some time before getting my amd phenom
I didn't get the sparc because
And it didn't start well, as soon as they delivered it (for free, as well as when they take it back) the system couldn't boot. Something corrupted on the hard drive ? Maybe a fucked up sector ?
Anyway, no problem, I install it again. NO, WAIT, no damn dvd with Solaris nor OpenSolaris.
I download it, with my mac, install it and then realize how far is OpenSolaris on the desktop, not mentioning I'm a unix geek and software developer on C++/java/python.
Debian ..yeah, it was far far easier to get gcc and other GNU stuff, which let me say it, it's much better than other OSs .. grep is my favourite example :)
All right, sorry for the semi-hot topic, just giving you my experience with that trial. .. fast too.
BTW, the hardware however noisy was very solid and
Mod accordingly (Redundant?)
Sadly true. There should be a check in order of : we see you're using linux, but this is the page you request so there you are. If instead you wanted linux click here.
Sorry mate, but .. how about instead of paying PC makers to preinstall, it goes and puts a nice link to chrome from google.com webpage ? OR All of them?
You know, they call it The Internet Entry point.
Imagine a day without google ..
MOD PARENT UP
How well ? Good enough. They don't have any clue what linux is. They don't have any IT degree right ? Actually, if they even *SEE* linux they might think you are a terrorist/communist/american_favourite_evil. So yeah, I like your idea. Also, I suggest truecrypt with the drive within the drive .. that gives you deniability, doesn't it ?
MAN! The best piece is this : "Not only am I unintimidated by litigation; I sometimes rather miss it."
If I was an ISP that would be the first thing I would do. MOD PARENT UP! Cheers mate!
Yeah I see why an ISP wouldn't want to do that just because. But RIAA/MPAA/BSA , whatever is their name in your country, are constantly bribing GOVS and law makers. Is not like we haven't seen anything, you probably saw as much as I did here on slashdot. Lets keep fingers crossed.
Oh well, while very hard, its very very easy to do for a provider/ISP. Now, I am not sure how much computing power would be required to do on the fly everything, but CPU are going up, parallel computing is going up and governments may ask ISP to just do that. How about then?
Well, they will then need to block all ssh or ssl (any web shop with credit card, or bank account or https website) will then be not allowed. So forget about remote in from home to your work. Naaa.They can't do that. But thing is, even with encryption, you need to exchange keys and someone in the middle (MITMA) could just make you think everything you are doing is safe while they are copying data back and forth and in the meantime, why not, reading it. You need an other mean to exchange keys, and , while you can do that with friends, its quite hard with someone you know nothing about in a p2p network ..
Never heard of public encryption ? You need someone public key to send them data and only them can read it. You can also sign it with your private key so that nobody else could have sent that data. (If you sent them your public key) The problem though is man in the middle. Who can you be sure the public key you've got is their public key and not GOV public key?
The BitTorrent (say azureus) encryption as far as I know is not really encryption. System like freenet and ant and mute are much better but we really need to move there in masses to make them worth. At the moment, pain slow ..
Something like DirectConnect, encrypted, invitation only, would kinda of work for small set of users ..at that point you want in the set someone outside UK that can freely download from all other P2P, without bothering with encryption.
mod parent UP {interesting?}
Immoral your ass ? Listen smart ass, bit torrent is just a protocol. Like smtp/pop/imap (email) http/https (web) samba (windows file sharing) and what not. You could be sharing with bittorrent your wedding video, your picture, a linux distribution, some updates for video games, some university public lectures and what not. Don't tell US that we should ban knives only because you can use them to kill people. Or cars, since here on /. we like so much car analogies.
This is just crazy. If they do that, then I will put on my effort to recreate one page every day, with a different name. Is like the fact they can build a mosque in rome but then don't allow to put a church there. And I'm a jew! :)
Completely agree with you. And most of the time I look up at the dev of the application and .. I get even more suspicious.
I have no application installed .. they bloat you home page, and more importantly, they make dump people sending you
hundreds of [stupid¦evil] notifications.
HATE IT.
It might be interesting if you could give granularity to the access they've got.
Thanks :)
The 2000 vs 5000 password problem is not really clear to me. Anyone can explain better ? And I partially agree on the other things he said, basically inbound and outbound default DROP/DENY and investing on teaching to workers rather than spending money on antivirus software only ..but does that mean he is out of antivirus business ? Why would HE suggest that ?
What use of a phone call, if you can't talk ? As in, what use of patents, if particular Software ones, if its the only one using them?
Yeah, hopefully "forever" will be completed by then. Hopefully.