And now you're going to tie that to the topic somehow, right?
Go away, AC Troll, or if you have something to say then SAY IT. Dropping by to toss out a random whinge does not endear anyone do your position. Quite the opposite, in fact.
Steve Jobs had no idea how the vast majority of people used their computers to get stuff done. He built lovely consumer devices. He's just not the authority people make him out to be.
I just run 'make' on any BSD, any Mac, cygwyn windows, or I could try the ubuntu windows (haven't don that yet), any linux and any other AIX, solaris or other older POSIX system and the code runs. with those.jars I always need the right version of JDK installed by an admin and it always seems tricky to get things running. need to change manifests, security settings on OSes of java installs change all of a sudden. oh and then we have these nice java 3d dependancies that require OS specific binaries installed again.
so I hence my question. really portable java?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, now show me your build script, tool chain and dependencies.
I have a JDK and ANT and while the scripts can get complex, this is due tot he complexity of the app, not the complexity of how to compile this particular bit of code on this particular host for some particular target.
I grant you that a solid, mature portability ecosystem has grown around C (several, in fact), but those things don't make C more portable.
True, but it would fit in with the larger narrative on the political right that "experts are bad" and that "the regular people" should be the ones running things.
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I suppose natural selection has no problem with guilt by association.
Go away, AC Troll, or if you have something to say then SAY IT. Dropping by to toss out a random whinge does not endear anyone do your position. Quite the opposite, in fact.
Nuance, FTW.
The company that was so completely awful it had to change its name from Qwest.
RTTA.
+1 Casablanca Reference
No, we really aren't. In fact, we're quite bad at this.
Yeah, not a big fan of the F-word there.
When I saw the headline I thought "I'm pretty sure I'm happy about this."
Benghazi, Uranium, Emails, OH MY!
He's wearing a Mark Mask. Shhhh!!
Amen, brother.
Remember kids; any time you argue against general prosperity and growth you come off looking kind of dumb.
Ditto making simplistic statements on complex matters.
I've got my eye on that Greeter position at Wal-Mart.
Capitalization: the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and...
YES. THIS.
Steve Jobs had no idea how the vast majority of people used their computers to get stuff done. He built lovely consumer devices. He's just not the authority people make him out to be.
I like it.
I just run 'make' on any BSD, any Mac, cygwyn windows, or I could try the ubuntu windows (haven't don that yet), any linux and any other AIX, solaris or other older POSIX system and the code runs. with those .jars I always need the right version of JDK installed by an admin and it always seems tricky to get things running. need to change manifests, security settings on OSes of java installs change all of a sudden. oh and then we have these nice java 3d dependancies that require OS specific binaries installed again.
so I hence my question. really portable java?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, now show me your build script, tool chain and dependencies.
I have a JDK and ANT and while the scripts can get complex, this is due tot he complexity of the app, not the complexity of how to compile this particular bit of code on this particular host for some particular target.
I grant you that a solid, mature portability ecosystem has grown around C (several, in fact), but those things don't make C more portable.
They make it easier to port C.
There is a big difference.
I second that.
Its the participants.
Yes. Can we please return to arguing over editors and space vs tab?
I'd be shocked to find that most people who regularly ate Cheerio's realized its made from oats.
RTTA
They'll be made. They'll be deployed. They'll go wrong. They'll be refined and we'll be assured it will never happen again. It will.
Lather, rinse, repeat.
True, but it would fit in with the larger narrative on the political right that "experts are bad" and that "the regular people" should be the ones running things.