I think what might happen is a particular distro will get popular enough that ISV's mainly target it, leading it to become the 'standard' linux desktop. It doesn't mean of course there can't be other versions of linux doing the many other things linux does.
We already have an organization dedicated to this, it's called Freedesktop. Check out their software and specs, which cover all the things you mentioned and many more.
The problem is keeping them there once they graduate. But yes, Iran does have a strong educational system, in some ways better than the US (though certainly not all).
True enough, but also keep in mind all the math and theory have been developed and put into practice for over 60 years now. There is a huge amount of publicly available designs, blueprints, real world data logs, etc. It may be a little harder for the Iranians to get a hold of them, but certainly not impossible. It's not like they have to develop all this stuff on their own.
Iran does have a solid math/engineering university program, and they obviously have enough talented engineers to get a satellite into orbit. It's certainly possible for them make an ICBM, if they are so inclined. After all, they are more than halfway there already.
You do your country and its reputation a disservice by thinking the rest of the world to be idiots. And don't underestimate your enemies.
This is exactly what users don't want ! Sure I could do it (and have, and it's a major pain in my ass), but boss man sure as hell isn't going to start messing around with hand-editing ps files (on command the line, no less !), and neither is any non-programmer/sysadmin in the company.
FOSS needs to offer at the very least parity with closed source in terms of usability if it's going to get anywhere. Firefox didn't get to where it's at by simply being libre, it got there by offering a better user experience - same as Ubuntu.
And which websites would that be ? Ones related to Linux perhaps ? I just can't see any sane web designer/master locking out something like 50% of the web.
I know that, but this wasn't the discussion at hand. I was replying to the GGP saying that "This is a big 'fuck you' to linux and FREE software in general." - which it isn't, since you can take code from apache and put it in Linux and other GPL projects.
Re:More is More
on
Less Is Moore
·
· Score: 2, Insightful
If computer speeds are twice as fast, and it currently takes you ten seconds to accomplish Task A, and a new computer will allow you to accomplish that same task in 5 seconds.... getting a new computer is not that big of a deal.
Depends on the frequency of the task too. In Photoshop going from 10 to 5 secs for a simple task done often (say noise reduction) is a big deal. Or if an IDE takes 1 vs 2 seconds to load the popup showing class variables/methods. It doesn't sound like a big deal, but when you have to do it hundreds of times a day, believe me, those seconds add up ! I would (and have) gladly upgrade a PC for these kinds of real world improvements.
Do you notice where the stuff for roads comes from or what Roman engineer built the most or best roads? That's generally what they'll think of any computing device older than 20 years.
The difference being that some of those old Roman roads are still used today !
No it is compatible with GPLv3, and Apache licensed software and Linux have always played nice (there's this minor thing you might have heard of, called 'httpd').
My limited experience is based on the only game that keeps my NTFS partition populated : Civilization 4. On a newer machine : 4GB RAM, ATI 4850, intel Q6600, the game is simply unplayable in wine 1.0.13, but hauls much ass in XP. Verdict - dual booting is still in my (immediate) future.
I was talking of their OS share, not browser share. Sorry for not making that clear.
But this has been decreasing lately as well, though not as dramatically as the browser. Hopefully these are both trends that will continue. Regardless I don't think the current proposal makes sense, there are better ways of regulating MS.
We have IE, FireFox, Opera, Safari, etc. How is it a monopoly? For PC OS' we have Windows, Mac, Linux and other operating systems. How is it a monopoly? ..SNIP..
I disagre they are a monopoly - and just because a judge said it doesn't make it true (how many times have we said XYZ judge is a moron for making a ruling).
I agree with the moronic judges part, but for me, a company that has ~90% market share is a monopoly... think of it in terms of oh, say oil production - if a company owned 90% of the world's oil, would you not consider them a monopoly in that industry ? Would you also be against a gov't regulating their activities ?
I'm not saying this present regulation proposal is a good idea, BTW. I'm just saying extra regulation (if not a forced breakup) for a monopoly is always required, otherwise they use their power to crush any competitors and artificially raise prices where there are none.
Isn't a moon defined basically as a natural satellite ? If the body revolves around the Sun why would it be called an Earth moon ? Not being rhetorical, just curious.
Well 640 000 km is, in cosmic terms, the same lane : it's only a little further out than the moon (at 400 000 km).
Think of the Earth/Moon as a car and the asteroid as a moped lane-splitting.
Slashdot Mirror
As opposed to what ... politicians ?
I think what might happen is a particular distro will get popular enough that ISV's mainly target it, leading it to become the 'standard' linux desktop. It doesn't mean of course there can't be other versions of linux doing the many other things linux does.
We already have an organization dedicated to this, it's called Freedesktop. Check out their software and specs, which cover all the things you mentioned and many more.
The problem is keeping them there once they graduate. But yes, Iran does have a strong educational system, in some ways better than the US (though certainly not all).
True enough, but also keep in mind all the math and theory have been developed and put into practice for over 60 years now. There is a huge amount of publicly available designs, blueprints, real world data logs, etc. It may be a little harder for the Iranians to get a hold of them, but certainly not impossible. It's not like they have to develop all this stuff on their own.
Iran does have a solid math/engineering university program, and they obviously have enough talented engineers to get a satellite into orbit. It's certainly possible for them make an ICBM, if they are so inclined. After all, they are more than halfway there already.
You do your country and its reputation a disservice by thinking the rest of the world to be idiots. And don't underestimate your enemies.
Whomever modded you troll obviously never tried getting win98 apps to work on XP, or an XP app on Vista ...
There's a difference between "This game you never heard of should work with WINE" and "Sims 3 : WINE edition".
There's probably more Vista haters than people who even know what WINE is !!
This is exactly what users don't want ! Sure I could do it (and have, and it's a major pain in my ass), but boss man sure as hell isn't going to start messing around with hand-editing ps files (on command the line, no less !), and neither is any non-programmer/sysadmin in the company.
FOSS needs to offer at the very least parity with closed source in terms of usability if it's going to get anywhere. Firefox didn't get to where it's at by simply being libre, it got there by offering a better user experience - same as Ubuntu.
full article
STOP posting multipage versions of articles !!!
And which websites would that be ? Ones related to Linux perhaps ? I just can't see any sane web designer/master locking out something like 50% of the web.
And in the end, the only real answer is : "Because it makes me happy"
er... so if your wife died, you'd clone her too?
Depends. Are there certain parts of her anatomy that I can ... 'enhance' ?
* woops, no you can't put it in linux, since it's gpl2. ...
But that's another issue : too many licenses
I know that, but this wasn't the discussion at hand. I was replying to the GGP saying that "This is a big 'fuck you' to linux and FREE software in general." - which it isn't, since you can take code from apache and put it in Linux and other GPL projects.
If computer speeds are twice as fast, and it currently takes you ten seconds to accomplish Task A, and a new computer will allow you to accomplish that same task in 5 seconds .... getting a new computer is not that big of a deal.
Depends on the frequency of the task too. In Photoshop going from 10 to 5 secs for a simple task done often (say noise reduction) is a big deal. Or if an IDE takes 1 vs 2 seconds to load the popup showing class variables/methods. It doesn't sound like a big deal, but when you have to do it hundreds of times a day, believe me, those seconds add up ! I would (and have) gladly upgrade a PC for these kinds of real world improvements.
Do you notice where the stuff for roads comes from or what Roman engineer built the most or best roads? That's generally what they'll think of any computing device older than 20 years.
The difference being that some of those old Roman roads are still used today !
No it is compatible with GPLv3, and Apache licensed software and Linux have always played nice (there's this minor thing you might have heard of, called 'httpd').
he's a mac user anyway ...
My limited experience is based on the only game that keeps my NTFS partition populated : Civilization 4. On a newer machine : 4GB RAM, ATI 4850, intel Q6600, the game is simply unplayable in wine 1.0.13, but hauls much ass in XP. Verdict - dual booting is still in my (immediate) future.
...
Just my $0.02
I was talking of their OS share, not browser share. Sorry for not making that clear.
But this has been decreasing lately as well, though not as dramatically as the browser. Hopefully these are both trends that will continue. Regardless I don't think the current proposal makes sense, there are better ways of regulating MS.
We have IE, FireFox, Opera, Safari, etc. How is it a monopoly? For PC OS' we have Windows, Mac, Linux and other operating systems. How is it a monopoly?
..SNIP..
I disagre they are a monopoly - and just because a judge said it doesn't make it true (how many times have we said XYZ judge is a moron for making a ruling).
I agree with the moronic judges part, but for me, a company that has ~90% market share is a monopoly ... think of it in terms of oh, say oil production - if a company owned 90% of the world's oil, would you not consider them a monopoly in that industry ? Would you also be against a gov't regulating their activities ?
I'm not saying this present regulation proposal is a good idea, BTW. I'm just saying extra regulation (if not a forced breakup) for a monopoly is always required, otherwise they use their power to crush any competitors and artificially raise prices where there are none.
Isn't a moon defined basically as a natural satellite ? If the body revolves around the Sun why would it be called an Earth moon ? Not being rhetorical, just curious.
Well 640 000 km is, in cosmic terms, the same lane : it's only a little further out than the moon (at 400 000 km).
Think of the Earth/Moon as a car and the asteroid as a moped lane-splitting.
... Especially since metals behave differently in microgravity, possibly leading to new alloys and manufacturing processes not possible or practical on Earth.