But how fast are the file transfers compared to firewire? I too am looking for massive storage solution that is cheap, and something like what this guy did sounds great, mainly for the access speeds......
Exactly. The longevity of Apple Computers are I think the over looked factor. Yeah, sure, speed it might not be the fastest. For games, it might not be the best. But for getting shit done, it works.
Damn you Steve Jobs. You introduce something perfect for the Music world yet again. The Emagic 1000 note demo was very cool, but thinking about all the plugins one could use in Protools or other programs.....plus Optical Inputs.....the drool factor is extreme.
So, Steve, I'm going to be saving my money again to get one of your products. The last one, a 9500 bought in 1996 has lasted very well. I wish I could say the same for the Pentium PC I bought in 1997.
I look forward to making tons of recordings and music with this new rig!
It's not sharing, it's streaming from what I understand. I'm wondering if people who have it active will have to pay royalities to artists since it might be considered "broadcasting".
Well, gear does matter to a degree. The quality of a live recording really depends on the mic for a lot of applications. In my studio I have a MOTU 828 and quite a few mics. I've gone through a bunch, Shure 57s, Beta 57s, 58s, AKGs, etc, etc. Finally sold a bunch of the mics and invested in a AKG 414. The quality of the recordings (live instruments) is way better.
Yeah, the room matters too. You can have a kick ass mic and pro tools and 192K recording, but if the room is crap.......
I'm doing a recording session at the end of the month with a Studio that has the new 192Khz protools stuff. However, they don't have the mixing board that can handle it.....I heard it was something like half a million to upgrade the board. So, I think we are recording to 96Khz. Should be interesting because last fall when I recorded, we did everything just to 24bit 44.1Khz. Sounded great I think. And pro tools let you adjust the timing of horns, vocals, etc. Reverb, levels, etc,etc. You can go nuts fixing things.
Anyhow, gear matters to a point, but your room observations are well founded. A good preamp can make things better too. It's amazing how good a Shure 57 can sound with a good preamp...
Yeah, there are a lot of albums from the 70s and even from the late 60s that have overdubbed parts. I have this old Patrick Williams album where Tom Scott is playing all the woodwind parts, and there are a LOT of woodwind parts.....plus the solos. Great stuff.
No, it's not the best out there, but it has a lot of great things going for it. Size. Durability. Battery life. All these things add up.
I don't think the minidisc format is "limited" at all. Recordings I make on it sound great. It's a small rig, and it works. For the amount of money it costs ($600 - Rode NT4 + sony minidisc recorder), it a great setup.
The same setup with this PDA thing will be at least $1500 as I don't have the PDA, and the size of the whole setup will at least double. Plus you have to keep track of batteries of all the stuff. What a pain. The Rode/Minidisc take a total of 2 batteries. A 9volt and a AA. I get about 5 hours of recording done on them (assuming I bring 5 discs).
The only thing I think this PDA thing could offer me is the instant digital transfer of recordings. That would be a huge time saver. But the costs of the setup are a lot......
Um, I don't agree with that. I use a minidisc all the time to record groups that I play with. It works great. What really decides on how good the recording is going to come out is the microphone and microphone placement. I invested in a Rode NT4 stereo mic about a year ago. That with my minidisc player/recorder has resulted in many high quality recordings. They sound at least as good as recordings made with a pair of house mics (Neumanns I believe) going to a mixing board. Actually, they usually sound better.
I don't think this solution, a PDA and an interface, is going to boost the quality any more. And it looks less portable.
What I'd really like to see is something like a recordable iPod.
I too use a PC to do the audio editing on anything I do. Basically, it was cheap and fast. I don't like using it other than that.
On the mac end for sound editing, there are a lot of products. Sound Studio is a great little program. Spark is a professional level program that would give Soundforge a run for the money.
But, whatever works. I personally like having two computers. A Mac for doing all the creative stuff, and the PC to record the product.
I do a lot of field audio recording on a minidisc with a Rode NT4 Stereo mic. The biggest problem is that you have to play the recordings back. You can't just transfer them off the discs like a file. That is a pain, and this device might solve that problem.
The other problem is that using the internal mic battery versus the phantom power there is a difference. Phantom power makes the mic sound better. And if you can record at 96Khz, thats even better. Better sound quality, etc, etc.
I'm a little skeptical about this product. My minidisc is real durable, and it works, and it's a small rig to take places. The pictures on core's website looks like a lot of gear to carry around....
It will be interesting to see how well Digital Performer 4 works with Final Cut Pro 4. If those two could be work together well, things would be grand!
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But how fast are the file transfers compared to firewire? I too am looking for massive storage solution that is cheap, and something like what this guy did sounds great, mainly for the access speeds......
What? Read the article? That would break Slashdot edicate.
Thats a good point. Comment deleted!!
Anyone know when the first "season" is coming out on DVD?
96? wow. I have been ripping all my stuff at 160. Sounds really really good to me.
Exactly. The longevity of Apple Computers are I think the over looked factor. Yeah, sure, speed it might not be the fastest. For games, it might not be the best. But for getting shit done, it works.
So, Steve, I'm going to be saving my money again to get one of your products. The last one, a 9500 bought in 1996 has lasted very well. I wish I could say the same for the Pentium PC I bought in 1997.
I look forward to making tons of recordings and music with this new rig!
Exactly! I can't see how it would require any talent at all.....
We are lowering our standards I think.....
My name is not on the list. Damn. Oh well, I hope we find something regardless.
Well, he did invent the internet didn't he? He probably also invented wireless networking too, right?
Great post! Funny stuff!
We were talking about for the Macintosh. Hello!?!?!
Exactly. Internet Explorer hasn't been updated in like............FOREVER.
It's not sharing, it's streaming from what I understand. I'm wondering if people who have it active will have to pay royalities to artists since it might be considered "broadcasting".
Yeah, the room matters too. You can have a kick ass mic and pro tools and 192K recording, but if the room is crap.......
I'm doing a recording session at the end of the month with a Studio that has the new 192Khz protools stuff. However, they don't have the mixing board that can handle it.....I heard it was something like half a million to upgrade the board. So, I think we are recording to 96Khz. Should be interesting because last fall when I recorded, we did everything just to 24bit 44.1Khz. Sounded great I think. And pro tools let you adjust the timing of horns, vocals, etc. Reverb, levels, etc,etc. You can go nuts fixing things.
Anyhow, gear matters to a point, but your room observations are well founded. A good preamp can make things better too. It's amazing how good a Shure 57 can sound with a good preamp...
Yeah, there are a lot of albums from the 70s and even from the late 60s that have overdubbed parts. I have this old Patrick Williams album where Tom Scott is playing all the woodwind parts, and there are a LOT of woodwind parts.....plus the solos. Great stuff.
It's been done before. It's called a G4 cube. I have one. It's silent. It's fast. It works.
I don't think the minidisc format is "limited" at all. Recordings I make on it sound great. It's a small rig, and it works. For the amount of money it costs ($600 - Rode NT4 + sony minidisc recorder), it a great setup.
The same setup with this PDA thing will be at least $1500 as I don't have the PDA, and the size of the whole setup will at least double. Plus you have to keep track of batteries of all the stuff. What a pain. The Rode/Minidisc take a total of 2 batteries. A 9volt and a AA. I get about 5 hours of recording done on them (assuming I bring 5 discs).
The only thing I think this PDA thing could offer me is the instant digital transfer of recordings. That would be a huge time saver. But the costs of the setup are a lot......
Yeah, I agree. You might want to look into a Marantz Portable CD recorder or something.
I don't think this solution, a PDA and an interface, is going to boost the quality any more. And it looks less portable.
What I'd really like to see is something like a recordable iPod.
On the mac end for sound editing, there are a lot of products. Sound Studio is a great little program. Spark is a professional level program that would give Soundforge a run for the money.
But, whatever works. I personally like having two computers. A Mac for doing all the creative stuff, and the PC to record the product.
The other problem is that using the internal mic battery versus the phantom power there is a difference. Phantom power makes the mic sound better. And if you can record at 96Khz, thats even better. Better sound quality, etc, etc.
I'm a little skeptical about this product. My minidisc is real durable, and it works, and it's a small rig to take places. The pictures on core's website looks like a lot of gear to carry around....
It will be interesting to see how well Digital Performer 4 works with Final Cut Pro 4. If those two could be work together well, things would be grand!
Performer 4 supposedly starts shipping today! Can't wait to try it on my G4 Cube!