Actually, it does. You have to hit back once when it forwards you to the NYT page, then the generator will try to forward you again, but it forward you to the article this time.
If you really think you learned that much about the "inner-workings" of security, then maybe you need an "institution of higher learning" I honestly don't even remember last years talks, they were just that memorable (or maybe i was just really drunk...yes that was it). But anyway, you might have learned a couple new security tricks at defcon, you might have even learned how to "lock down" you linux box. But there's no way you learned how to write or identify secure software from any talk at defcon, they just aren't long enough for that.
Of course what everyone who posted here failed to mention, DefCon is really just a big party now. Every year people trash the hotel (which is another reason for the price hike to $75, thanks a lot guys), most people are more concerned about getting wildly drunk than learning anything at DefCon and a fair amount of people are only there for an excuse to goto Vegas.
This isn't to say I don't have big plans for DefCon:
Thursday evening: leave Arizona for Vegas Friday morning(~3am): Arrive at hotel playing the dead kennedys' remake of Viva Las Vegas. Sleep for a few hours and goto Subway for breakfast. Visit store adjecent to Subway for booze and OJ, begin drinking. Rest of Friday->Sunday morning: (Scene Missing -insert drunken hollering and stupidity-) Sunday afternoon: Go home.
Its too bad that cell phones are replacing watches so frequently these days. Personally, I still have a watch just because I like how it looks and the convience of not having to reach into my pocket. My watch is a Titanium Skagen though, so its really more of a piece of jewelery to me.
Actually, you're wrong. I know exactly where they got the info, they got it from the WHOIS database, but you have nothing to complain about. You see
"ICANN contracts mandate each Registrar to sell bulk whois data to anyone."
Most registrar don't tell you this because if they did, hey, they'd lose money right? But if you use a decent registrar or read the ICANN agreement you'd know it. You can also opt out of it. Most sleazy registrar require you to write in or otherwise take a stupid amount of time todo it. Thats why I like gandi.net they're run out of france and have a big paragraph explaining it and radio buttons where the default is opt-out
It sure as hell does mean going through thier things. Kids shouldn't have secrets, they WILL have them, but there's 2 things that will happen. There are some things they won't do, because they know you'll find out. And there's something they'll just hide better. So you've just taught them 2 important lessons, take risks, but not stupid ones. And think things out, if you're going todo something, do it right damit. I know, because thats how my mother raised me. I was rarely punished, but hell, I knew when I did something very wrong.
Yeah,you could do that. But what's the likely hood that someone is going to write a GBA addon for your mp3 player? The point is device convergence. I could carry a calculator, date book, universal remote, gameboy and little-black-book everywhere I go. Or I could carry my Palm Pilot.
You seem to be confused. USENET, IRC and P2P cost outragous amounts of money to maintain. Why do you think many ISP filter the binary groups from USENET? As for IRC, I have a friend that worked for a large ISP awhile back. This was when EFNet was very close to death and there were talks of hub servers leaving and starting a new network. He wanted to setup an Efnet server.
Do you know how much bandwidth EFNet requires to link? Last I checked they wanted a dedicated 10Mbit connection.
And, P2P, well we all know it isn't actually peer to peer, someone is paying for all that bandwidth you're using because they didn't think you'd use all that bandwidth.
But, I do agree with you on the point of profiteers, I could do without them. Unfortunatly, Slashdot would have a hard time surviving (at its current level of traffic) without them.
A lot of people read at 3+ because of crap posts like this one, so they may not have seen that post. We'll note that the comment didn't get modded up at all. Also, after viewing the linked page in the news posting, they may not have read the comments because they saw it was Windows only.I feel this is valid news that is completely acceptable. Just because you already know about something doesn't make it any less news worthy.
Not that this will stop anything. Its long been established, that as long as a religous activity isn't faculty lead, the students are free to discuss and organize as they wish.
So now instead of requiring students to say the pledge they will simply have "Face the Flag and say something" time. Of course, the students won't feel and pressure from peers or teachers because 3rd and 4th grade children usually think completely for themselves and aren't influenced by the behavior of thier peers.
But, I am glad that it is gone, I never liked saying it and was always annoyed and offended when I was forced to. Kudos!
I was most refuting the support and warrenty claims, as wells as his component price claims. As far as buying another laptop from Dell, I would not, they really arent the best out there, I bought it because I wanted an ultralight laptop on a budget. If you have the cash, get an IBM, you won't regret it. As far as buying servers goes, building your own is cheap, but, who's paying for it?
I think about it this way: Something fails at 3am, we know its a hardware failure, the machine is across town, or worse, 2 states away. Did I build it or did Dell? Because if Dell built it, you've got a damn good support contract behind it and you've got a Dell support goon jumping out of his chair at 3am to go fix your server and get it back online.
When you buy a Dell you're damn happy to have that warrenty. I've got a Dell laptop (Inspiron 2100, 3.4lb, 1", the small one). I've had to send it in for repair 4 times, all of which were my fault (I dropped it). I've never been charged for it, they send out an Airborne express guy to pick it up and turn around time is anywhere from 24-72 hours, from Airborne guy to fixed and back in my hands.
You've also completely left out the time spent selecting and purchasing parts, as well as taking into consideration if you buy from multiple vendors your shipping time will be different.
Also, $30 for a video card? A decent one? Dell bundles very decent video cards, as well was sound and ethernet, my laptop has a 3com 10/100 card in it and lemme tell you, those Tulip based cards having nothing on it. $100 monitor? This guy doesn't sound like he's in the market for a 15" monitor. And, by the way, which $70 Microsoft OS are you putting on this computer? Yes I'm aware you can buy it off Ebay, but for that matter, why not get all the stuff off ebay. Your prices are totally unrealistic for a single build, this guy isn't a dealer, he's not buying in bulk.
I'm done, I'm sure you'll have some smartass reply to this. For the record, all this is based on my laptop dealings with Dell since i rarely upgrade my desktop, for the past few years its been a Celeron 500 that I put together with spare parts. I built it myself because I already had most of the parts, I don't game so I don't run top-o-dee-line.
Have you considered that it may be that the majority of US consumers don't know about it? I mean, this is slashdot, so we know, but most people don't read slashdot. Take for example linux, before it got popular you didn't hear every geek going around say "Man, I wish i had a free minix clone" Its harder to desire something you have no knowledge of.
It doesnt cost you more if you own your modem. the service used to be $35.95, now its $42.95, regardless if you rent the modem or not. The price for service went up $7, period. At the same time they lowered the price of renting the modem by $7 (from $10 to $3).
So as you can see, before the change, modem renters paid $45.95 a month, so add $7 in service fees and subtract $7 in rental fees and they're still paying $45.95 a month.
On the other hand, people who own a modem were paying $35.95 a month, so add $7 in service fees, and now they're paying $42.95. So now you see that renting a modem still costs more, it just doesn't cost as much more as it used to.
We should also remember that companies buy Sun for reasons beyond speed. Sun has legendary support, when something goes wrong, or when they make a mistake, it gets fixed == FAST.
Companies buy Sun because if for some awful reason a processor in an E10k dies they don't have to shut the machine down. The machine can be opened, still running, and the processors hot swapped.
The fact is, Sun machines are really really dependable, and thats what companies pay so much more for.
So the image creating scripts are hosted on another machine "nfrance.com". But the really cool thing is that you can make the thing say whatever you want by changing the URL of the image a bit. See: I'm sure if you put in enough effort you could draw pictures
of course slash-code f's with the URL so here's an smlnk: (ps. smlnk.com shortens URLs mostly for usenet or irc postings so don't be freaked out be the redirect) http://smlnk.com/?EPRZ4J7R
First of all, maybe I'm just missing something, but he didn't even mention the graphics card. Second, he didn't say anything about pirating software. Third, he didn't mention anything about thier other products, such as thier various OS offerings. AND FORTH, they DO take a loss on every console sold, because they know they will recoup it with just a few game sales, almost every console ever made has done the exact same thing. Now, how about making a post that is even partially relevant.
This sucks because of all the times I've seen Windows CE devices lock up, or just turn off for no reason at all. Would you want to be in the pouring rain and have the OS that runs your wipers die?
A common location for Qwest (formerly USWest here) is in highschools, not even the basements, but free standing structures. I didn't find out until long after i graduated that the thing everyone figured was an athletic equipment storage room was really full of switching equipment.
Actually I can think of a couple situations. For example, Smashing Pumpkins and Offspring both released thier albums on napster in protest to thier treatment by record labels. On a lesser note, many punk bands did this. I knew a guy that ran a very large, anyone that knew of it would have no problem calling it the largest ever. Bands would routinely upload thier albums.
Find an SE/30, then you could run A/UX *giggle*. No really though, A/UX was pretty cool in its day, it was POSIX compliant plus it ran most MacOS apps of the day (upto system 7). I still have a copy of it, but nothing to run it on. Right now I have a Mac Classic and an SE that has been converted into a fish tank
Yeah, your laptop also weighs like 9lbs, the Daylight weighs 3lbs, and the Daylight has a backlight, but allows you to turn it off when it isn't required.
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Actually, it does. You have to hit back once when it forwards you to the NYT page, then the generator will try to forward you again, but it forward you to the article this time.
If you really think you learned that much about the "inner-workings" of security, then maybe you need an "institution of higher learning" I honestly don't even remember last years talks, they were just that memorable (or maybe i was just really drunk...yes that was it). But anyway, you might have learned a couple new security tricks at defcon, you might have even learned how to "lock down" you linux box. But there's no way you learned how to write or identify secure software from any talk at defcon, they just aren't long enough for that.
Of course what everyone who posted here failed to mention, DefCon is really just a big party now. Every year people trash the hotel (which is another reason for the price hike to $75, thanks a lot guys), most people are more concerned about getting wildly drunk than learning anything at DefCon and a fair amount of people are only there for an excuse to goto Vegas.
This isn't to say I don't have big plans for DefCon:
Thursday evening: leave Arizona for Vegas
Friday morning(~3am): Arrive at hotel playing the dead kennedys' remake of Viva Las Vegas. Sleep for a few hours and goto Subway for breakfast. Visit store adjecent to Subway for booze and OJ, begin drinking.
Rest of Friday->Sunday morning: (Scene Missing -insert drunken hollering and stupidity-)
Sunday afternoon: Go home.
Bah on Emacs, vi i say vi! (well ok, vim, with vi coming a close second)
Its too bad that cell phones are replacing watches so frequently these days. Personally, I still have a watch just because I like how it looks and the convience of not having to reach into my pocket. My watch is a Titanium Skagen though, so its really more of a piece of jewelery to me.
Actually, you're wrong. I know exactly where they got the info, they got it from the WHOIS database, but you have nothing to complain about. You see
"ICANN contracts mandate each Registrar to sell bulk whois data to anyone."
Most registrar don't tell you this because if they did, hey, they'd lose money right? But if you use a decent registrar or read the ICANN agreement you'd know it. You can also opt out of it. Most sleazy registrar require you to write in or otherwise take a stupid amount of time todo it. Thats why I like gandi.net they're run out of france and have a big paragraph explaining it and radio buttons where the default is opt-out
It sure as hell does mean going through thier things. Kids shouldn't have secrets, they WILL have them, but there's 2 things that will happen. There are some things they won't do, because they know you'll find out. And there's something they'll just hide better. So you've just taught them 2 important lessons, take risks, but not stupid ones. And think things out, if you're going todo something, do it right damit. I know, because thats how my mother raised me. I was rarely punished, but hell, I knew when I did something very wrong.
Yeah,you could do that. But what's the likely hood that someone is going to write a GBA addon for your mp3 player? The point is device convergence. I could carry a calculator, date book, universal remote, gameboy and little-black-book everywhere I go. Or I could carry my Palm Pilot.
You seem to be confused. USENET, IRC and P2P cost outragous amounts of money to maintain. Why do you think many ISP filter the binary groups from USENET? As for IRC, I have a friend that worked for a large ISP awhile back. This was when EFNet was very close to death and there were talks of hub servers leaving and starting a new network. He wanted to setup an Efnet server.
Do you know how much bandwidth EFNet requires to link? Last I checked they wanted a dedicated 10Mbit connection.
And, P2P, well we all know it isn't actually peer to peer, someone is paying for all that bandwidth you're using because they didn't think you'd use all that bandwidth.
But, I do agree with you on the point of profiteers, I could do without them. Unfortunatly, Slashdot would have a hard time surviving (at its current level of traffic) without them.
A lot of people read at 3+ because of crap posts like this one, so they may not have seen that post. We'll note that the comment didn't get modded up at all. Also, after viewing the linked page in the news posting, they may not have read the comments because they saw it was Windows only.I feel this is valid news that is completely acceptable. Just because you already know about something doesn't make it any less news worthy.
"One nation under god, or gods, or no god, or satan, or undecided, or whatever-you-damn-well-pleas with liberty and justice for all"
Not that this will stop anything. Its long been established, that as long as a religous activity isn't faculty lead, the students are free to discuss and organize as they wish.
So now instead of requiring students to say the pledge they will simply have "Face the Flag and say something" time. Of course, the students won't feel and pressure from peers or teachers because 3rd and 4th grade children usually think completely for themselves and aren't influenced by the behavior of thier peers.
But, I am glad that it is gone, I never liked saying it and was always annoyed and offended when I was forced to. Kudos!
I was most refuting the support and warrenty claims, as wells as his component price claims. As far as buying another laptop from Dell, I would not, they really arent the best out there, I bought it because I wanted an ultralight laptop on a budget. If you have the cash, get an IBM, you won't regret it. As far as buying servers goes, building your own is cheap, but, who's paying for it?
I think about it this way: Something fails at 3am, we know its a hardware failure, the machine is across town, or worse, 2 states away. Did I build it or did Dell? Because if Dell built it, you've got a damn good support contract behind it and you've got a Dell support goon jumping out of his chair at 3am to go fix your server and get it back online.
When you buy a Dell you're damn happy to have that warrenty. I've got a Dell laptop (Inspiron 2100, 3.4lb, 1", the small one). I've had to send it in for repair 4 times, all of which were my fault (I dropped it). I've never been charged for it, they send out an Airborne express guy to pick it up and turn around time is anywhere from 24-72 hours, from Airborne guy to fixed and back in my hands.
You've also completely left out the time spent selecting and purchasing parts, as well as taking into consideration if you buy from multiple vendors your shipping time will be different.
Also, $30 for a video card? A decent one? Dell bundles very decent video cards, as well was sound and ethernet, my laptop has a 3com 10/100 card in it and lemme tell you, those Tulip based cards having nothing on it. $100 monitor? This guy doesn't sound like he's in the market for a 15" monitor. And, by the way, which $70 Microsoft OS are you putting on this computer? Yes I'm aware you can buy it off Ebay, but for that matter, why not get all the stuff off ebay. Your prices are totally unrealistic for a single build, this guy isn't a dealer, he's not buying in bulk.
I'm done, I'm sure you'll have some smartass reply to this. For the record, all this is based on my laptop dealings with Dell since i rarely upgrade my desktop, for the past few years its been a Celeron 500 that I put together with spare parts. I built it myself because I already had most of the parts, I don't game so I don't run top-o-dee-line.
Please take a moment to back up your statement that XP Home is "shitty" compared to XP Pro. What exactly makes it "shitty" and what makes Pro decent?
Have you considered that it may be that the majority of US consumers don't know about it? I mean, this is slashdot, so we know, but most people don't read slashdot. Take for example linux, before it got popular you didn't hear every geek going around say "Man, I wish i had a free minix clone" Its harder to desire something you have no knowledge of.
Uhg, did you even read the article?
It doesnt cost you more if you own your modem. the service used to be $35.95, now its $42.95, regardless if you rent the modem or not. The price for service went up $7, period. At the same time they lowered the price of renting the modem by $7 (from $10 to $3).
So as you can see, before the change, modem renters paid $45.95 a month, so add $7 in service fees and subtract $7 in rental fees and they're still paying $45.95 a month.
On the other hand, people who own a modem were paying $35.95 a month, so add $7 in service fees, and now they're paying $42.95. So now you see that renting a modem still costs more, it just doesn't cost as much more as it used to.
We should also remember that companies buy Sun for reasons beyond speed. Sun has legendary support, when something goes wrong, or when they make a mistake, it gets fixed == FAST.
Companies buy Sun because if for some awful reason a processor in an E10k dies they don't have to shut the machine down. The machine can be opened, still running, and the processors hot swapped.
The fact is, Sun machines are really really dependable, and thats what companies pay so much more for.
So the image creating scripts are hosted on another machine "nfrance.com". But the really cool thing is that you can make the thing say whatever you want by changing the URL of the image a bit. See:
I'm sure if you put in enough effort you could draw pictures
of course slash-code f's with the URL so here's an smlnk: (ps. smlnk.com shortens URLs mostly for usenet or irc postings so don't be freaked out be the redirect)
http://smlnk.com/?EPRZ4J7R
First of all, maybe I'm just missing something, but he didn't even mention the graphics card. Second, he didn't say anything about pirating software. Third, he didn't mention anything about thier other products, such as thier various OS offerings. AND FORTH, they DO take a loss on every console sold, because they know they will recoup it with just a few game sales, almost every console ever made has done the exact same thing. Now, how about making a post that is even partially relevant.
This sucks because of all the times I've seen Windows CE devices lock up, or just turn off for no reason at all. Would you want to be in the pouring rain and have the OS that runs your wipers die?
A common location for Qwest (formerly USWest here) is in highschools, not even the basements, but free standing structures. I didn't find out until long after i graduated that the thing everyone figured was an athletic equipment storage room was really full of switching equipment.
Actually I can think of a couple situations. For example, Smashing Pumpkins and Offspring both released thier albums on napster in protest to thier treatment by record labels. On a lesser note, many punk bands did this. I knew a guy that ran a very large, anyone that knew of it would have no problem calling it the largest ever. Bands would routinely upload thier albums.
Find an SE/30, then you could run A/UX *giggle*. No really though, A/UX was pretty cool in its day, it was POSIX compliant plus it ran most MacOS apps of the day (upto system 7). I still have a copy of it, but nothing to run it on. Right now I have a Mac Classic and an SE that has been converted into a fish tank
Yeah, your laptop also weighs like 9lbs, the Daylight weighs 3lbs, and the Daylight has a backlight, but allows you to turn it off when it isn't required.