Oh yeah, Windows 95/98 "Plug-and-Pray" compatability was a joke, I would rather have manually set IRQs than deal with some of the crap I had to back then. However it was a growing process and it works very very well in XP, and even better in Vista.
I hope Linux will continue to grow as well. I find it interesting to hear Linux supporters say that they really want Linux to catch on, "Year of the Linux Desktop" and what not, but yet they expect the market they wish to target to adjust to them. That isn't the way it works. If people have certain expectations that are keeping them from trying Linux, then Linux devs should attempt (at the very least) to meet them in the middle. For instance, as a Windows power-user, I love the command prompt and all the power it affords me, however microsoft knows that not all computer users are going to feel comfortable, and so there are usually 3-4 different ways to do any task in Windows (command prompt, wizard, managment console), and usually one will fit most people's expectations.
To say "Anyways, you have to remember, Linux is not windows so don't expect windows" is very valid up to a point. Linux should not seek to emulate Windows. In fact, the best thing it could do right now in the wake of Vista is differentiate itself from Windows as much as possible. However, to neglect the user interface or ease of operation because "it works just fine for me" when there are clearly improvements that could be implemented smacks of eliteism. It seems like you (not you you, the proverbial you) don't want Linux to catch on as much as you say if that's your opinion. I think windows XP did a very good job of crafting a user interface. I think Mac OS 9 had a great interface too. That didn't stop them from updating OS 10 and Vista/7, did it? Find where improvements can be made, and institude them.
Or you plug it in and it works because windows comes with the driver for nearly any USB device, or you plug it in and windows update gets them. Hell, vista even gets the latest nVidia drivers for my video card for me as part of windows update.
Even if what you said was true (which it is in a few cases), it's more acceptable than apt-get because everyone knows the internet is available as a resource, and google has a great user interface. apt-get is a tool that many don't even know exist.
You call it "simple", I will call it "simpler". Yes, it is easier than apt-get, but it is still by no means user friendly. It feels (at least the last version I used) like selecting drivers manually in windows XP. Not exactly a pain, but not as easy as it should be. It should feel more (IMHO) like finding add-ons for Firefox.
And now, even being an average computer user, she is trying to spread Linux to her friends and colleagues
Which will be fantastic, until they have to set up the ndiswrapper themselves.
I am an advanced computer user (I work in IT), and ndiswrapper caused ME to give up on Linux. I'll try it again when I have a card that plays nice, but I still think that what Linux needs is a friendlier interface than even Ubuntu can offer. Why should I have to type "apt-get"? Why don't the linux coders make a rich graphical "application marketplace" or, hell, an iTunes-esque GUI?
The easier you can make things, the more it will catch on. Ubuntu is definately not ready for the big time yet. It's close, but it needs a lot of polish.
I love this line of reasoning. "Oh the recession was brewing for years before my guy took over!". Years before your guy took over, clinton was in office with a republican house and congress. So... still looks like the free-market republicans to me.
I just bought a house myself...
This house is easily worth 140,000-$150,000 (in my market, that's a nice family sized house)... 4 bedrooms, 1,600+ square feet, 2 baths, 2 car garage, near a half acre of property... I'm getting it for $95,000.
... If it weren't for government spending from DARPA, there would be no internet.
What Al Gore meant when he said he invendted the internet was that he was one of the primary names on the bill that turned ARPANET into the Internet as we know it.
As was pointed out in a reply to a different comment:
A yacht company is a small afair with few employees, low demand, and huge margins. They do not buy much, and they do not disperse much money to their help.
If a 1.2 million dollar yacht was not bought and say, 1.2 million dollars worth of middle-class houses were built, you would be employing dozens of workers for the contractor. You would be orddering lumber which keeps saw mills and logging companies in business, you would be ordering nails which would benefit the employees of the factory, the foundry, and the mining company, shingles which would employee the shingle manufacturer, and more mines (shingles are made from asphault usually), fiberglass insulation, windows, concrete, not to mention the trucking companies that deliver all these things.
Dollar for Dollar, the house, the TV, car, or just about anything the middle class will buy is far better for the economy than things the upper class are going to spend their money on.
And I would be all for this, it would be by far the quickest way out. However, politicians have to think of their careers, and it would be political suicide.
There are two ways out of a recession as large as what we are facing:
We can have a World War.
We cam have a massive Public Works program
Which would you prefer? To me, cost is not an issue. It will pay for itself in the long term by boosting our economy and keeping the recession shallow/eventually lifting us out of it.
How is this flamebate?
No one wanted to use the word "recession" until the election was over because to say we were in one would hurt the incumbent party's chances at reelection. Regardless of who the incumbent party was.
32 orbits is not very much, and it seems a shame to just let it get flung in to deep space. You'd think they could do a burn and stick it into a permanent orbit somewhere to get some long(er) term studies done.
Every time you run in to a roadblock, just tweak your calculations until they fit what you see. Shouldn't our formulas be based off of our observations, and not the other way around?
I'm personally a big fan of relative gravity, but touching einsteins theory of relativity seems to be anathema. A ridiculous notion since relativity itself debunked newton's theories, theories come and go as our ability to observe grows. Scientists shouldn't be afraid of it.
I work for a hospital, and we have a heavy reliance on pagers. Likely for all the reasons you listed. We certainly don't want a doctor missing their page. You should be able to get a nice 2 way pager with nationwide service cheap as dirt with no contracts in this day and age.
We use a company called USA Mobility but I think they offer only corporate solutions, not individual paging accounts. For an individual solution... yeah, I don't know. About the only people who need an individual pager are drug dealers (no account needed, harder to trace than a cell phone).
Oh, it's been investigated. You may not have heard much beyond "it's baseless", because when someone throws a baseless attack that doesn't stick, there's not much more for the press to say.
A good example of this was Ayers coming out after the election and saying he was involved with the Obama campaign "until the maelstrom hit"
Would you please cite this? Because the quote I heard after election day was "I barely knew Obama".
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Oh yeah, Windows 95/98 "Plug-and-Pray" compatability was a joke, I would rather have manually set IRQs than deal with some of the crap I had to back then. However it was a growing process and it works very very well in XP, and even better in Vista.
I hope Linux will continue to grow as well. I find it interesting to hear Linux supporters say that they really want Linux to catch on, "Year of the Linux Desktop" and what not, but yet they expect the market they wish to target to adjust to them. That isn't the way it works. If people have certain expectations that are keeping them from trying Linux, then Linux devs should attempt (at the very least) to meet them in the middle. For instance, as a Windows power-user, I love the command prompt and all the power it affords me, however microsoft knows that not all computer users are going to feel comfortable, and so there are usually 3-4 different ways to do any task in Windows (command prompt, wizard, managment console), and usually one will fit most people's expectations.
To say "Anyways, you have to remember, Linux is not windows so don't expect windows" is very valid up to a point. Linux should not seek to emulate Windows. In fact, the best thing it could do right now in the wake of Vista is differentiate itself from Windows as much as possible. However, to neglect the user interface or ease of operation because "it works just fine for me" when there are clearly improvements that could be implemented smacks of eliteism. It seems like you (not you you, the proverbial you) don't want Linux to catch on as much as you say if that's your opinion. I think windows XP did a very good job of crafting a user interface. I think Mac OS 9 had a great interface too. That didn't stop them from updating OS 10 and Vista/7, did it? Find where improvements can be made, and institude them.
Or you plug it in and it works because windows comes with the driver for nearly any USB device, or you plug it in and windows update gets them. Hell, vista even gets the latest nVidia drivers for my video card for me as part of windows update.
Even if what you said was true (which it is in a few cases), it's more acceptable than apt-get because everyone knows the internet is available as a resource, and google has a great user interface. apt-get is a tool that many don't even know exist.
You call it "simple", I will call it "simpler". Yes, it is easier than apt-get, but it is still by no means user friendly. It feels (at least the last version I used) like selecting drivers manually in windows XP. Not exactly a pain, but not as easy as it should be. It should feel more (IMHO) like finding add-ons for Firefox.
Which will be fantastic, until they have to set up the ndiswrapper themselves.
I am an advanced computer user (I work in IT), and ndiswrapper caused ME to give up on Linux. I'll try it again when I have a card that plays nice, but I still think that what Linux needs is a friendlier interface than even Ubuntu can offer. Why should I have to type "apt-get"? Why don't the linux coders make a rich graphical "application marketplace" or, hell, an iTunes-esque GUI?
The easier you can make things, the more it will catch on. Ubuntu is definately not ready for the big time yet. It's close, but it needs a lot of polish.
IBM.
Patent Reform?
I find it more likely they're going to exam your work, patent it, then sue you for infringment.
They really do.
I love this line of reasoning. "Oh the recession was brewing for years before my guy took over!". Years before your guy took over, clinton was in office with a republican house and congress. So... still looks like the free-market republicans to me.
I just bought a house myself... This house is easily worth 140,000-$150,000 (in my market, that's a nice family sized house)... 4 bedrooms, 1,600+ square feet, 2 baths, 2 car garage, near a half acre of property... I'm getting it for $95,000.
... If it weren't for government spending from DARPA, there would be no internet.
What Al Gore meant when he said he invendted the internet was that he was one of the primary names on the bill that turned ARPANET into the Internet as we know it.
Oh, okay. That makes sense. Too bad those law changes were very much bipartisan. Also, it's likely inconvienent to your argument that nearly every rule change that played a part in the ecenomic downturn happened in the 2000s, which republicans have been in power for all but 3 of now.
As was pointed out in a reply to a different comment:
A yacht company is a small afair with few employees, low demand, and huge margins. They do not buy much, and they do not disperse much money to their help.
If a 1.2 million dollar yacht was not bought and say, 1.2 million dollars worth of middle-class houses were built, you would be employing dozens of workers for the contractor. You would be orddering lumber which keeps saw mills and logging companies in business, you would be ordering nails which would benefit the employees of the factory, the foundry, and the mining company, shingles which would employee the shingle manufacturer, and more mines (shingles are made from asphault usually), fiberglass insulation, windows, concrete, not to mention the trucking companies that deliver all these things.
Dollar for Dollar, the house, the TV, car, or just about anything the middle class will buy is far better for the economy than things the upper class are going to spend their money on.
And I would be all for this, it would be by far the quickest way out. However, politicians have to think of their careers, and it would be political suicide.
I'm sorry, I must not have heard you right. Just to clarify, you're blaming the housing bubble on NAFTA, right?
As much as people like to bash "tax and spend liberals" the economy and stock market historically does better when one is in office.
Which would you prefer? To me, cost is not an issue. It will pay for itself in the long term by boosting our economy and keeping the recession shallow/eventually lifting us out of it.
How is this flamebate? No one wanted to use the word "recession" until the election was over because to say we were in one would hurt the incumbent party's chances at reelection. Regardless of who the incumbent party was.
Now that the election is over and the Republicans have lost, they can finally say "recession".
My post was very tongue in cheek. Not sure why I'm +5 informative.... +funny, maybe...
Well, the U.S. owns the internet, right? We should just pass a law for IPv6.
32 orbits is not very much, and it seems a shame to just let it get flung in to deep space. You'd think they could do a burn and stick it into a permanent orbit somewhere to get some long(er) term studies done.
Every time you run in to a roadblock, just tweak your calculations until they fit what you see. Shouldn't our formulas be based off of our observations, and not the other way around?
I'm personally a big fan of relative gravity, but touching einsteins theory of relativity seems to be anathema. A ridiculous notion since relativity itself debunked newton's theories, theories come and go as our ability to observe grows. Scientists shouldn't be afraid of it.
Now we can outsource all of Houston Mission Control's operations to India, it should be a real cost saving measure.
I work for a hospital, and we have a heavy reliance on pagers. Likely for all the reasons you listed. We certainly don't want a doctor missing their page. You should be able to get a nice 2 way pager with nationwide service cheap as dirt with no contracts in this day and age.
We use a company called USA Mobility but I think they offer only corporate solutions, not individual paging accounts. For an individual solution... yeah, I don't know. About the only people who need an individual pager are drug dealers (no account needed, harder to trace than a cell phone).
After having read this, I think I may switch back to Avast.
Oh, it's been investigated. You may not have heard much beyond "it's baseless", because when someone throws a baseless attack that doesn't stick, there's not much more for the press to say.
Would you please cite this? Because the quote I heard after election day was "I barely knew Obama".