Your attempt at logic is laughable. Making ad hominem attacks because you encounter one of many game theories that fit reality, is rather sad. Do you honestly think that I originated this perspective? I don't think you have any experience or knowledge of basic game theory.
If you can only find enjoyment in watching a bar fill, you will never enjoy anything that isn't a bar filling. Your bar is empty.
Logical contradiction followed by an empty metaphor. When people are unable to grasp a concept but convinced their point of view is correct, this often is the kind of nonsensical statements tossed around.
Don't get all flustered at me because the sky appears blue and RPGs are not what you enjoy. Here's a chance to enjoy making noise by yourself.
Progress Quest, along with a select number of "RPG-likes" dont have maximum achievements. ProgressQuest fails the RPG test in both being single player (or 0 player if you wish) and not having a set limit for achievement.
When I hit 60 with my rogue, I stopped playing because I was not interesting in raiding MC with 50 other people allthefuckingtime. The treadmill doesn't usually stop, it just gets steeper and steeper until only the 24/7 no-job morlocks have the time and motivation to climb it.
If you can only find enjoyment in watching a bar fill, you will never enjoy an RPG./restated
I dont see any evidence of your viewpoint that WoW is not an MMORPG. I'd love to hear why you think that. I contend WoW is definitely an RPG. I contend Oblivion/Planescape/Nethack etc are not RPGs.
MMORPGs usually include a number of competitive ladders. This is native to the current genre. The fact that you can completely fill a bar (reach top level, get the best item, etc) is an indicator of a true RPG... The ladder teaches mechanics, but it ends. Once you reach the top of a ladder you are FORCED to role play. You have to explore and define what is fun for you and how you prefer to relate to other people.
In a single player game, there is no redefinition outside of the game mechanics. Reaching the end of storyline content is a variation of Dungeon Siege. If you run around your house in a cape and hat, you aren't role playing with your dog, you are crazy. Roleplaying is acting, emulating, and relating to other people.
If fun is watching a bar fill, you probably dont like RPGs. If fun is ONLY discovering how a mob fight works, you probably dont like RPGs. If you can create a personality that exists outside of your character's hairstyle and armor color...(or that's part of it), you are an RP gamer.
If eighty cents of every dollar I spend supporting OpenSSH gets flushed down the OpenBSD toilet, is that a good use of my contribution?
This is called a valid point. Contribution would support the continued marriage of OpenBSD and OpenSSH, which does not need to exist. I understand.
OpenSSH would not have existed (in its current form) without OpenBSD. OpenBSD continues to provide a solid theoretical and practical framework for OpenSSH. I see nothing productive about a divorce, outside of serving the DeRaat-hating egos. If you are adamant enough, write a check directly to Tatu Ylönen.
Unfortunately, I believe you are simply posting to make noise.
I can't believe the number of assholes on this thread who are so quick to blame the poor guy who got a permanent ban for no logical cause.
You don't play WoW. WoW players know that GMs message ppl to detect if they are botting. No response is conviction. Your character gets teleported to GM island and the account gets a ban. After the 3rd ban (increasing duration), yur permbanned. Plz stop talking.
Ask yourself, why he bothers to mention WINE, Linux, or fails to mention what happened before the letters. This guy is not a victim and he deserves what he got. He made a nice attempt at PR tho.
I have not watched the video. There is no point to keeping track of backtracking. There are still PLENTY of potential customers on any number of forums expecting this to be the MMORPG pitched for months.
I've not seen a single thing that leads me to believe this is going to be a revolutionary or even GOOD game. Frankly, any game claiming to provide an all-encompassing open-ended experience is a pure unadulterated lie. Please, someone explain why this is getting any attention at all. The press releases and marketing machine of EA is in full swing, but/.'rs are actually believing it???
In my years I've seen too many examples of how to poorly implement a scenario to believe a complete evolution of a civilization into morpg would be possible. Sim Earth to CIV? Ask yourself, how simple the game has to be to make that work. It would be TERRIBLE. One of many unlikely scenarios is Spore will be a puzzle game to level abilities of a single genetic line then onto a tradewars-like environment with your planet serving as base. Not that that's going to be much more fun. In any case, the initial development is all Single-player grind to get to abilities. Yay? Then onto a new playfield that has to keep 1 played from growing large enough to stomp anyone else and has to be able to run 24/7. Good luck with that.
I've not seen a single thing that leads me to believe this is going to be a revolutionary or even GOOD game. Frankly, any game claiming to provide an all-encompassing open-ended experience is a pure unadulterated lie. Please, someone explain why this is getting any attention at all. The press releases and marketing machine of EA is in full swing, but/.'rs are actually believing it???
In my years I've seen too many examples of how to poorly implement a scenario to believe a complete evolution of a civilization into morpg would be possible. Sim Earth to CIV? Ask yourself, how simple the game has to be to make that work. It would be TERRIBLE. One of many unlikely scenarios is Spore will be a puzzle game to level abilities of a single genetic line then onto a tradewars-like environment with your planet serving as base. Not that that's going to be much more fun. In any case, the initial development is all Single-player grind to get to abilities. Yay? Then onto a new playfield that has to keep 1 played from growing large enough to stomp anyone else and has to be able to run 24/7. Good luck with that.
I haven't used a single product by any company in that article other than paypal:p There are hundreds of multi-million dollar valued/invested companies. I don't see any of the OTHER mentioned companies going anywhere. I see the article (which is only a preface to these little slide notes) as a fluff piece. Thx/. that was definitely news that mattered....
My comment had nothing to do with the GPL 3 improvements, which I support. SO the majority of the parent is nonsense. You might enjoy high-school English papers which overuse metaphors to fill up space for a homework assignment. Congratulations, you're a Cnet reader. I think you need to re-read my comment and rethink your reaction.
As per my comment, Wikipedia is not a source for information. Anyone who quotes wikipedia as a source is a hack trying to push an agenda. I don't quote/. comments as a source and I can't support quoting wikipedia (which amoounts to a volatile communal comment). The fact that you have to defend Wikipedia's content with "a majority of other random sources I read were kinda the same" belies the SERIOUS problems. There's a very good chance that the wikipedia entry will have MISINFORMATION now that it's made the front page of/. To pull this out of the realm of philosophy, poor design is to blame when information is the most inaccurate and least available when it's most requested. That's wikipedia.
If you read the article, why are you asking for clarification? ALL IT EVER WAS, WAS A TABLET PC. It was always going to be junk nobody wanted and nobody is going to use. Why MS is even bothering marketing it, is beyond me.
Device drivers would be the best solution for me. I want an exact copy of what I wrote to a physical drive. Hook, encrypt, send to another HD to repeat. Realtime, low-level. This allows it to be relatively fast (as opposed to having to process through layers of abstraction), accurate (as opposed to something an abstraction might do to it), and realtime...
I want dual transactions. 1 for onsite and 1 for offsite. I'm not even interested in encrypting the data. I need to be able to kill my onsite immediately and failover to the offsite with a simple endroute change. I need to be as realtime as possible...Why would I want a 5 min backup? I can get near-realtime NOW with many of the systems in this thread; I just want nearer.
Stepping through the scool band scene...why is there a kid in an "ethnic" mask in the second row from the right? (see behind the music instructor's arm) I could be mistaken, but that face looks really really strange and it put me off from the first time I saw the scene.
It serves as both a self-reinforcement of my belief and a talking point. I would hardly call it "absolutely no effect" when it has a practical effect on me and those around me. No meaningful effect sounds more like it.
We would be better off with pretty much any other company replacing them. See SCO, see Sony, see Infinium. You're a little bit ignorant to be playing the "I can run a company better" game. Plz suggest an equivalent company rather than making false blanket statements.
Blocking deals is a lot easier than wresting control and infrastructure from a financial institution. This is reality, not an idealogical utopian world. Yes, that would also be consistent policy to disenfranchise Saudi owners.
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I can roleplay without having maximum achievements (see Risus), but I can't roleplay without playing a role.
Isnt the role of progress quest, Sisyphus? However, point taken.
Your attempt at logic is laughable. Making ad hominem attacks because you encounter one of many game theories that fit reality, is rather sad. Do you honestly think that I originated this perspective? I don't think you have any experience or knowledge of basic game theory.
If you can only find enjoyment in watching a bar fill, you will never enjoy anything that isn't a bar filling. Your bar is empty.
Logical contradiction followed by an empty metaphor. When people are unable to grasp a concept but convinced their point of view is correct, this often is the kind of nonsensical statements tossed around.
Don't get all flustered at me because the sky appears blue and RPGs are not what you enjoy. Here's a chance to enjoy making noise by yourself.
Progress Quest, along with a select number of "RPG-likes" dont have maximum achievements. ProgressQuest fails the RPG test in both being single player (or 0 player if you wish) and not having a set limit for achievement.
When I hit 60 with my rogue, I stopped playing because I was not interesting in raiding MC with 50 other people allthefuckingtime. The treadmill doesn't usually stop, it just gets steeper and steeper until only the 24/7 no-job morlocks have the time and motivation to climb it.
/restated
If you can only find enjoyment in watching a bar fill, you will never enjoy an RPG.
I dont see any evidence of your viewpoint that WoW is not an MMORPG. I'd love to hear why you think that. I contend WoW is definitely an RPG. I contend Oblivion/Planescape/Nethack etc are not RPGs.
MMORPGs usually include a number of competitive ladders. This is native to the current genre. The fact that you can completely fill a bar (reach top level, get the best item, etc) is an indicator of a true RPG... The ladder teaches mechanics, but it ends. Once you reach the top of a ladder you are FORCED to role play. You have to explore and define what is fun for you and how you prefer to relate to other people.
In a single player game, there is no redefinition outside of the game mechanics. Reaching the end of storyline content is a variation of Dungeon Siege. If you run around your house in a cape and hat, you aren't role playing with your dog, you are crazy. Roleplaying is acting, emulating, and relating to other people.
If fun is watching a bar fill, you probably dont like RPGs. If fun is ONLY discovering how a mob fight works, you probably dont like RPGs. If you can create a personality that exists outside of your character's hairstyle and armor color...(or that's part of it), you are an RP gamer.
Doofus is pretty. Lots of games are pretty...the gameplay is completely and utterly BORING and decidedly un-fun. It was undeserving, at best.
If eighty cents of every dollar I spend supporting OpenSSH gets flushed down the OpenBSD toilet, is that a good use of my contribution?
This is called a valid point. Contribution would support the continued marriage of OpenBSD and OpenSSH, which does not need to exist. I understand.
OpenSSH would not have existed (in its current form) without OpenBSD. OpenBSD continues to provide a solid theoretical and practical framework for OpenSSH. I see nothing productive about a divorce, outside of serving the DeRaat-hating egos. If you are adamant enough, write a check directly to Tatu Ylönen.
Unfortunately, I believe you are simply posting to make noise.
I can't believe the number of assholes on this thread who are so quick to blame the poor guy who got a permanent ban for no logical cause.
You don't play WoW. WoW players know that GMs message ppl to detect if they are botting. No response is conviction. Your character gets teleported to GM island and the account gets a ban. After the 3rd ban (increasing duration), yur permbanned. Plz stop talking.
Ask yourself, why he bothers to mention WINE, Linux, or fails to mention what happened before the letters. This guy is not a victim and he deserves what he got. He made a nice attempt at PR tho.
I have not watched the video. There is no point to keeping track of backtracking. There are still PLENTY of potential customers on any number of forums expecting this to be the MMORPG pitched for months.
I've not seen a single thing that leads me to believe this is going to be a revolutionary or even GOOD game. Frankly, any game claiming to provide an all-encompassing open-ended experience is a pure unadulterated lie. Please, someone explain why this is getting any attention at all. The press releases and marketing machine of EA is in full swing, but /.'rs are actually believing it???
In my years I've seen too many examples of how to poorly implement a scenario to believe a complete evolution of a civilization into morpg would be possible. Sim Earth to CIV? Ask yourself, how simple the game has to be to make that work. It would be TERRIBLE. One of many unlikely scenarios is Spore will be a puzzle game to level abilities of a single genetic line then onto a tradewars-like environment with your planet serving as base. Not that that's going to be much more fun. In any case, the initial development is all Single-player grind to get to abilities. Yay? Then onto a new playfield that has to keep 1 played from growing large enough to stomp anyone else and has to be able to run 24/7. Good luck with that.
sure nuf!
I've not seen a single thing that leads me to believe this is going to be a revolutionary or even GOOD game. Frankly, any game claiming to provide an all-encompassing open-ended experience is a pure unadulterated lie. Please, someone explain why this is getting any attention at all. The press releases and marketing machine of EA is in full swing, but /.'rs are actually believing it???
In my years I've seen too many examples of how to poorly implement a scenario to believe a complete evolution of a civilization into morpg would be possible. Sim Earth to CIV? Ask yourself, how simple the game has to be to make that work. It would be TERRIBLE. One of many unlikely scenarios is Spore will be a puzzle game to level abilities of a single genetic line then onto a tradewars-like environment with your planet serving as base. Not that that's going to be much more fun. In any case, the initial development is all Single-player grind to get to abilities. Yay? Then onto a new playfield that has to keep 1 played from growing large enough to stomp anyone else and has to be able to run 24/7. Good luck with that.
Anyone who works there knows, this article sounds a lot like @yahoo.com
I haven't used a single product by any company in that article other than paypal :p There are hundreds of multi-million dollar valued/invested companies. I don't see any of the OTHER mentioned companies going anywhere. I see the article (which is only a preface to these little slide notes) as a fluff piece. Thx /. that was definitely news that mattered....
Nothing to see here, move along to Where this Cnet hack got his ENTIRE NON-story from
/. comments as a source and I can't support quoting wikipedia (which amoounts to a volatile communal comment). The fact that you have to defend Wikipedia's content with "a majority of other random sources I read were kinda the same" belies the SERIOUS problems. There's a very good chance that the wikipedia entry will have MISINFORMATION now that it's made the front page of /. To pull this out of the realm of philosophy, poor design is to blame when information is the most inaccurate and least available when it's most requested. That's wikipedia.
and a nice link to some reading you'll enjoy
My comment had nothing to do with the GPL 3 improvements, which I support. SO the majority of the parent is nonsense. You might enjoy high-school English papers which overuse metaphors to fill up space for a homework assignment. Congratulations, you're a Cnet reader. I think you need to re-read my comment and rethink your reaction.
As per my comment, Wikipedia is not a source for information. Anyone who quotes wikipedia as a source is a hack trying to push an agenda. I don't quote
If you read the article, why are you asking for clarification? ALL IT EVER WAS, WAS A TABLET PC. It was always going to be junk nobody wanted and nobody is going to use. Why MS is even bothering marketing it, is beyond me.
According to Wikipedia, "Florence soon tired of Savonarola's hectoring," and so too are many turning their backs on Stallman...
/. puts banner links [now with DRIVEL TEXT (tm)] as articles...
Wikipedia is not a reputable source. Cnet is not a news outlet. I can't believe
When civilization starts, evolution stops.
Device drivers would be the best solution for me. I want an exact copy of what I wrote to a physical drive. Hook, encrypt, send to another HD to repeat. Realtime, low-level. This allows it to be relatively fast (as opposed to having to process through layers of abstraction), accurate (as opposed to something an abstraction might do to it), and realtime...
I want dual transactions. 1 for onsite and 1 for offsite. I'm not even interested in encrypting the data. I need to be able to kill my onsite immediately and failover to the offsite with a simple endroute change. I need to be as realtime as possible...Why would I want a 5 min backup? I can get near-realtime NOW with many of the systems in this thread; I just want nearer.
Later when panning back, you can see the same kid very alive and animated and looking like a real kid.
Stepping through the scool band scene...why is there a kid in an "ethnic" mask in the second row from the right? (see behind the music instructor's arm) I could be mistaken, but that face looks really really strange and it put me off from the first time I saw the scene.
When homer takes his "protective hood" off, Mr. Burns (left) and Smithers (right) are visible.
It serves as both a self-reinforcement of my belief and a talking point. I would hardly call it "absolutely no effect" when it has a practical effect on me and those around me. No meaningful effect sounds more like it.
We would be better off with pretty much any other company replacing them.
See SCO, see Sony, see Infinium. You're a little bit ignorant to be playing the "I can run a company better" game. Plz suggest an equivalent company rather than making false blanket statements.
Blocking deals is a lot easier than wresting control and infrastructure from a financial institution. This is reality, not an idealogical utopian world. Yes, that would also be consistent policy to disenfranchise Saudi owners.