Sounds exactly like a book I would not like to buy.
I learned a lot about both authors in the review. Good links, good form, minimal overview, good review. Most of the recent/. fiction reviews have been excellent.
> We have no idea what Sun was thinking when choosing this or whether Sun's version 1 software meets corporate needs.
I see no basis for this statement. Since it's not fully functional, it doesn't meet anyone's needs. Given Sun's track record in research and development, we can be reasonably sure Sun is aware of the different environments (casual vs corporate vs homogenized) that an OS can be tailored to. It is clearly headed for corporate use. The only reason Sun would shaft media drivers (like DVD compatibility), which are trivial, is because they specifically don't want to consider them in their market. That specific "question" HAS been answered. You might want to read the FAQ question #1
1. Q.
What is the Sun Java Desktop System?
A.
Sun Java Desktop System is a comprehensive, secure, highly affordable enterprise desktop solution that is simple to use and works with existing infrastructure. The software consists of a fully integrated client environment based on open source and standards including a GNOME desktop environment, StarOffice productivity suite, Mozilla browser, Evolution e-mail and calendar client, Java 2 Standard Edition, and a Linux operating system.
Future releases of Java Desktop System are planned to support workstations and Sun Ray thin clients running the Solaris Operating System.
Our genetic proclivity for being lazy does not make it the best system of measurement. Nature has shown a distinct lack of interest in nice round numbers. The best reason not to use the metric system is the artificial boundaries our own systems set up. 100 degrees celcius is not the point at which at which every mixed solution (with water) boils, like your spa. It's more around 112. So should the system be adjusted to the boiling point of chlorinated water because that's what a study shows is the most frequent measurement in society? Why not kelvins? A lot of things in human history don't necessarily make sense and we've been doing ok. I'm not arguing the status quo of mixed measurements, but that the world is gonna need a better reason than, it's something YOU would like.
> There's a difference between corporate desktops and what sun are providing.
Wrong. Wrong in the sense that SJD is scheduled for deployment on corporate desktops. Wrong in the sense that sun has provided anything. Repeat, Sun hasn't provided anything. We see what Sun has found to be the corporate desktop priorities. Now you should read the article again and think about it from that perspective.
So does this mean that google will have to switch from web search engine to IM tech and Online games like MS and Yahoo did?
Google has essentially said that they are willing to lie. In making the statement "have the ads most relevant to what they're looking for" they have demonstrated a willingness to act outside the interest of the customer. This is the aggregious error. If say there were a checkbox on the webpage for a non-filtered version and start yahoo-tiered pricing for access, it would be acceptable for all parties.
Is it really so hard to figure out how to make everyone happy?
The common sense ethical step of contacting the vendor in regards to an exploit, has as its premise that it is in the best interest of the vendor and customers. Taking into account the common knowledge that MS takes no action (in the brief recent history that has included hundreds of exploits), the contacting vendor step is ethically NOT in the best interest of anyone. Ignore notices at your own peril as it is not the public's job to act in solely the vendor's short-term interest (in regards to security issues) and the public will begin to simply bypass the vendor in an attempt to expedite, which I have no ethical problem with.
The United States attempts to reduce the risk of terrorist attacks on nuclear facilities by building every nuclear power facility with custom floor blueprints. France, in contrast, gets 75% of it's power from nuclear power plants that are all cookie cutter. The number of terrorist (or name-your-faction-including-burglars) attempts on French stations has been slightly higher than on the US, but still under 10, in the last 30 years...AFAIK
So if are you all for correct grammar spelling, why didn't you make the correction?
Using 'Virii' in place of 'Viruses' is incorrect spelling. I am not the spelling bee's drone, but I am interested in what you think.
I do not concede it's futile to stop a language from changing (not improving). See most ANY programming language. There is no moral reason I can divine that I should ignore the baseline syntax of a language when given the opportunity because it will be seen as acceptable within the community I am affiliating with. Perhaps is fulfills your psychological need to be different or recognized as such? Are you seeking approval and the ancilliary authority that might convey, being "in the know"?
Let me know when you recognize your hypocrisy, have a well thought out reason for your behavior, or have revised your stance.
Fucking around for your own personal entertainment is a good enough reason for most anything, of course.
Luckily because space is so hazardous, simply the reasonable posibility (along with stated motivation) that let's say...some Private Citizen A might have planted land mines on some Asteroid B via private space-trip should be enough to deter visitors and achieve the same effect, as occupying a nuclear silo here on earth, for many many years.
Was not aware. Ethical predicament stands. Would I bother going to Saudi Arabia? If they were funding my company I would. I guess that means that while Linus has always mocked the US legal system, he still thinks a better paying gig is worth having to deal with it? I guess I'm just shocked he actually moved here. He knows someone will eventually sopoena him and he will have to basically barter with a legal system he has no faith in. I would never do that and I didn't expect him to do that.
I guess this would be Jack9's theory of land ownership.
Put up a satellite or agents into space. Mine or set up sabotage, or otherwise similarly "poison the well" the area/asteroid. Even the rumor that you may have done this and the theoretical chance that you have (through having put people/technology into space with that specific purpose), should be enough to deter claiming the land or at least visiting until humanity or some future owner has decided they have such an iron grasp on space technologies as to risk sending someone to scour it and verify it is safe.
Do you really think it's appropriate for a self-proclaimed security researcher to put up a private website where he lists DoS and Keygens "for fun" rather than submit them to what can tacitly be considered "proper channels" like BugTraq or FullDisclosure (I hear it's quite the list)? What kind of security specialist would do that? Oh yeah, none.
If I was say, a citizen of the United States, and say, got a sopoena for court in Saudi Arabia over a dispute involving GETTING HEADS CHOPPED OFF, why would I go?
I would prefer Linus IGNORE it and demonstrate what I believe is a better path (circumvention through avoiding jurisdiction) to the current attempt at playing the US Legal System lotto (using Stallman's methods of promoting alternate contractual models).
As you've obviously never been arrested before in the United States, lemme break it down for you. Police get a complaint from you or Mc Donalds. The police come down. They interview you (Taking pictures), they interview staff and customers, they escort you off the premises. There is no assault there is no question. The police decide if there was real assault or someone trying to get you to leave or stop or both. In Orange County, the police dont even care what the "alleged disruptor" has to say. Their job is to keep the peace, not create unnecessary paperwork for themselves or a judicial servant.
Theft (what YOU consider theft) is a protest. You just have a different view of reality. You're in the minority as most of middle America has been talking about music/file sharing at the company lunch hour for close to 5 years and we're all pretty much in agreement everywhere I have worked.
Everything excepting the car analogy (why didnt you make a direct theft analogy about prescription drugs?) is either happening or will happen or is simply not publicized yet.
The car analogy does not belong because a car is not easily reproduced. Most goods _are_ affected by foreign markets and/or black markets ( Do you buy American champange?), while some are replaced altogether with a different system like with prescription drugs being made generic. Lucky for us popular drugs started getting liscenced as generic to limit the hundreds of thousands who were buy from mexico/canada because they are without health insurance (Read: prozac, sodium warafin, etc). What do you think global economics are about?
Your moral stance is that music/books/software are goods of market value. I say if I can recreate or copy something for near-free, then their value is close to nothing. What about all their work? Well if I spend 2 million USD$ and 3 years making pumice duplicates of 50 rocks I found in my yard, how does that affect the value of the replicas in the market? Reality check, maybe I should have THOUGHT MY PRODUCT THROUGH before whining how much I put into it and why I'm not gonna get much back. Marijuana is illegal where I am but I'm not gonna call the police when my shipping department lights up in their van because fighting human nature is a bad position to take. The fact it probably cost near nothing to produce hasn't made THAT product worthless because I cannot reproduce it effectively (or safely). Let's outlaw music so the industry can get back on it's feet!? Lucky for me I live in America where laws can change and be struck down. In America, not every legal decision dooms us to live in absurdity forever.
Good luck on using harsh language to stop people from taking souvenier chunks of the Colliseum in Rome, too. Gimme a break.
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This sounds exactly like the kind of book I would like to buy.
using quite unscrupulous methods which appear to be in breach of the law.
at least they didn't bomb his house.
Heavy editorializing.
Sidetracked multiple times, and STATED IT.
I still don't know anything about the book.
I do not want to buy this book, right now.
Sounds exactly like a book I would like to buy.
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Good job on another quality book review
Sounds exactly like a book I would not like to buy.
/. fiction reviews have been excellent.
I learned a lot about both authors in the review. Good links, good form, minimal overview, good review. Most of the recent
You're thinking 2D, he said 2G. It a is fairly original concept IMHO.
> We have no idea what Sun was thinking when choosing this or whether Sun's version 1 software meets corporate needs.
I see no basis for this statement. Since it's not fully functional, it doesn't meet anyone's needs.
Given Sun's track record in research and development, we can be reasonably sure Sun is aware of the different environments (casual vs corporate vs homogenized) that an OS can be tailored to. It is clearly headed for corporate use. The only reason Sun would shaft media drivers (like DVD compatibility), which are trivial, is because they specifically don't want to consider them in their market. That specific "question" HAS been answered. You might want to read the FAQ question #1
1. Q.
What is the Sun Java Desktop System?
A.
Sun Java Desktop System is a comprehensive, secure, highly affordable enterprise desktop solution that is simple to use and works with existing infrastructure. The software consists of a fully integrated client environment based on open source and standards including a GNOME desktop environment, StarOffice productivity suite, Mozilla browser, Evolution e-mail and calendar client, Java 2 Standard Edition, and a Linux operating system.
Future releases of Java Desktop System are planned to support workstations and Sun Ray thin clients running the Solaris Operating System.
Our genetic proclivity for being lazy does not make it the best system of measurement. Nature has shown a distinct lack of interest in nice round numbers. The best reason not to use the metric system is the artificial boundaries our own systems set up. 100 degrees celcius is not the point at which at which every mixed solution (with water) boils, like your spa. It's more around 112. So should the system be adjusted to the boiling point of chlorinated water because that's what a study shows is the most frequent measurement in society? Why not kelvins? A lot of things in human history don't necessarily make sense and we've been doing ok. I'm not arguing the status quo of mixed measurements, but that the world is gonna need a better reason than, it's something YOU would like.
> There's a difference between corporate desktops and what sun are providing.
Wrong. Wrong in the sense that SJD is scheduled for deployment on corporate desktops. Wrong in the sense that sun has provided anything. Repeat, Sun hasn't provided anything. We see what Sun has found to be the corporate desktop priorities. Now you should read the article again and think about it from that perspective.
So does this mean that google will have to switch from web search engine to IM tech and Online games like MS and Yahoo did?
Google has essentially said that they are willing to lie. In making the statement "have the ads most relevant to what they're looking for" they have demonstrated a willingness to act outside the interest of the customer. This is the aggregious error. If say there were a checkbox on the webpage for a non-filtered version and start yahoo-tiered pricing for access, it would be acceptable for all parties.
Is it really so hard to figure out how to make everyone happy?
The common sense ethical step of contacting the vendor in regards to an exploit, has as its premise that it is in the best interest of the vendor and customers. Taking into account the common knowledge that MS takes no action (in the brief recent history that has included hundreds of exploits), the contacting vendor step is ethically NOT in the best interest of anyone. Ignore notices at your own peril as it is not the public's job to act in solely the vendor's short-term interest (in regards to security issues) and the public will begin to simply bypass the vendor in an attempt to expedite, which I have no ethical problem with.
jack9.....your absolutely amazing
from your secret admirer....OnS|aught
The United States attempts to reduce the risk of terrorist attacks on nuclear facilities by building every nuclear power facility with custom floor blueprints. France, in contrast, gets 75% of it's power from nuclear power plants that are all cookie cutter. The number of terrorist (or name-your-faction-including-burglars) attempts on French stations has been slightly higher than on the US, but still under 10, in the last 30 years...AFAIK
So if are you all for correct grammar spelling, why didn't you make the correction?
Using 'Virii' in place of 'Viruses' is incorrect spelling. I am not the spelling bee's drone, but I am interested in what you think.
I do not concede it's futile to stop a language from changing (not improving). See most ANY programming language. There is no moral reason I can divine that I should ignore the baseline syntax of a language when given the opportunity because it will be seen as acceptable within the community I am affiliating with. Perhaps is fulfills your psychological need to be different or recognized as such? Are you seeking approval and the ancilliary authority that might convey, being "in the know"?
Let me know when you recognize your hypocrisy, have a well thought out reason for your behavior, or have revised your stance.
Fucking around for your own personal entertainment is a good enough reason for most anything, of course.
Luckily because space is so hazardous, simply the reasonable posibility (along with stated motivation) that let's say...some Private Citizen A might have planted land mines on some Asteroid B via private space-trip should be enough to deter visitors and achieve the same effect, as occupying a nuclear silo here on earth, for many many years.
Was not aware. Ethical predicament stands. Would I bother going to Saudi Arabia? If they were funding my company I would. I guess that means that while Linus has always mocked the US legal system, he still thinks a better paying gig is worth having to deal with it? I guess I'm just shocked he actually moved here. He knows someone will eventually sopoena him and he will have to basically barter with a legal system he has no faith in. I would never do that and I didn't expect him to do that.
I guess this would be Jack9's theory of land ownership.
Put up a satellite or agents into space. Mine or set up sabotage, or otherwise similarly "poison the well" the area/asteroid. Even the rumor that you may have done this and the theoretical chance that you have (through having put people/technology into space with that specific purpose), should be enough to deter claiming the land or at least visiting until humanity or some future owner has decided they have such an iron grasp on space technologies as to risk sending someone to scour it and verify it is safe.
Do you really think it's appropriate for a self-proclaimed security researcher to put up a private website where he lists DoS and Keygens "for fun" rather than submit them to what can tacitly be considered "proper channels" like BugTraq or FullDisclosure (I hear it's quite the list)? What kind of security specialist would do that? Oh yeah, none.
If I was say, a citizen of the United States, and say, got a sopoena for court in Saudi Arabia over a dispute involving GETTING HEADS CHOPPED OFF, why would I go?
I would prefer Linus IGNORE it and demonstrate what I believe is a better path (circumvention through avoiding jurisdiction) to the current attempt at playing the US Legal System lotto (using Stallman's methods of promoting alternate contractual models).
More likely that reality allows for telekenisis but we're trapped in the matrix where that power does not exist, but is only hinted at by legend?
As you've obviously never been arrested before in the United States, lemme break it down for you. Police get a complaint from you or Mc Donalds. The police come down. They interview you (Taking pictures), they interview staff and customers, they escort you off the premises. There is no assault there is no question. The police decide if there was real assault or someone trying to get you to leave or stop or both. In Orange County, the police dont even care what the "alleged disruptor" has to say. Their job is to keep the peace, not create unnecessary paperwork for themselves or a judicial servant.
He woulda sold that to Microsoft (or let MS pay up and sold it to any other party he wanted to side with in the near-future).
Note capitalism eating capitalism.
I seriously doubt your conclusion. MS/IE is only currently developed in the US. How long do you think THAT is going to last?
Sounds exactly like a book I would not like to buy.
You're captain obvious.
Theft (what YOU consider theft) is a protest. You just have a different view of reality. You're in the minority as most of middle America has been talking about music/file sharing at the company lunch hour for close to 5 years and we're all pretty much in agreement everywhere I have worked.
Everything excepting the car analogy (why didnt you make a direct theft analogy about prescription drugs?) is either happening or will happen or is simply not publicized yet.
The car analogy does not belong because a car is not easily reproduced. Most goods _are_ affected by foreign markets and/or black markets ( Do you buy American champange?), while some are replaced altogether with a different system like with prescription drugs being made generic. Lucky for us popular drugs started getting liscenced as generic to limit the hundreds of thousands who were buy from mexico/canada because they are without health insurance (Read: prozac, sodium warafin, etc). What do you think global economics are about?
Your moral stance is that music/books/software are goods of market value. I say if I can recreate or copy something for near-free, then their value is close to nothing. What about all their work? Well if I spend 2 million USD$ and 3 years making pumice duplicates of 50 rocks I found in my yard, how does that affect the value of the replicas in the market? Reality check, maybe I should have THOUGHT MY PRODUCT THROUGH before whining how much I put into it and why I'm not gonna get much back. Marijuana is illegal where I am but I'm not gonna call the police when my shipping department lights up in their van because fighting human nature is a bad position to take. The fact it probably cost near nothing to produce hasn't made THAT product worthless because I cannot reproduce it effectively (or safely). Let's outlaw music so the industry can get back on it's feet!? Lucky for me I live in America where laws can change and be struck down. In America, not every legal decision dooms us to live in absurdity forever.
Good luck on using harsh language to stop people from taking souvenier chunks of the Colliseum in Rome, too. Gimme a break.