The problem with this article is that it is a prime example of a technical article, with one off-hand comment from one of the researcher (these marks may have indicated cannibalism by homo sapien sapien) the press grabs it, and the point is taken as fact.
Generally, we (HSS) do not consider ourselves cannibals, but specific and localized groups have practiced cannibalism. Under severe conditions modern individuals have resorted to cannibalism for survival. I would believe that if cannibalism was a significant source of nutrition of early modern man, we would have found significantly more evidence in other excavations than this single discovery.
Do you sell a Tee-shirt saying "McDonalds Sucks" with a picture of Ronald being bitch-slapped by Hamburglar, I'd be interested. Oh, probably not, if you did, you'd be likely vacationing, with the money you made with your tee-shirt business, on some South Pacific Atoll with too many islander's offering you slushy drinks in pineapples or coconuts to have time for the post.
Your point is very valid, in that our chance to remain dominant is about as likely as the proto-mammals not to be a late night snack or find themselves toe-jam for a dino.
The article in the Journal of Leukocyte Biology raises a critical point, but is based upon some very limited patient data. For instance they classify the patients studied into "Severe", "Moderate" and RSV (not respiratory syncytial virus) and controls, with each group composed of 10, 5, 6, and 24 individuals respectfully. Also, the ages were relatively broad; for severe the average was 3.4 years (0.2-12.6 years), for moderate the average was 6.3 years (3 months-12 years), and the RVS group was 2.2 years (22 days-4 years), while the controls were 6.9 years (0.5-19 years).
My point being is that the potential indication of the research needs to be picked up and validated with a more comprehensive study.
Maybe the analogy early in this thread was appropriate.
Depending on your facility cabling can be exposed to fairly wide swings in temp. For instance, where I sit right now the cabling is run above a drop ceiling. The business has been in the facility for 20+ years, so any wiring (from computer to phone) ever installed is still up there (no one ever removes the old cables from previous installations). Temperature swings range from around 140F on a hot summer day to marginally above freezing in the winter.
A lot of cable is run in places difficult (at best) to access. If you're "in" you need to balance taking the opportunity to swap out "old" (you pick the time period) with "new". Part of the equation is your tolerance for down time. The cost of cable is likely low compared to the cost of a significant period of outage.
I believe there is a fundamental flaw with attempting to utilize the laser (straight or curved) in conjunction with (either straight or curved) sharks. Though there has been some research of benefits to utilize them in an asymmetric configuration(curved shark:straight laser, straight shark:curved laser), there is indication that the research was flawed due to the researchers themselves being curved (or maybe it was bent).
In any case, the utilization of lasers, with aquatic organisms, has been shown to be most effective, when used with sea bass, and in particular ill-tempered sea bass.
My guess is that it will be seen as an impressive technological feat, with marginal real applicability.
In the talk on "TED" JoAnn Kuchera-Morin, trumps the ability to fly into the brain, see the tissue as landscape and hear the blood density as sound. It is very unclear the advantage of the projection to the scale they've accomplished (other than to say we've done it).
They've pulled together impressive super-computer technology, but if it was on a larger PC screen versus a "walk-in" version, is there a real gain?
The point is, they don't move forward till the point they believe they can win the case (this is not commenting on the quality of evidence, just thought-process).
So, if you find yourself being prosecuted for something more than a speeding ticket, the "State" has put together what is (in their opinion) a sure win.
At that point, you're likely facing a lot of evidence, that you'll then have to disprove hence the perspective that you're proving yourself innocent.
Concur. No clue why the its ranked "flamebait" except that a lot of Shashdotters see this stuff as something more than what it is (entertainment). I would consider the problems that comic books ran into much the same, seeing themselves as more than what they were. Get a grip on reality, if you're generating "fluff" for society (and that's not necessarily a bad thing) do a good job at it and get on with you're life.
Yes you can make a decent living at it; so from a financial perspective you have legitimacy, be happy with making a living at something (I hope) you find rewarding, create something that people can entertain themselves with, but that should be what the goal is. Anything loftier, is missing the purpose of it.
So, the question for the folks at SETI, would be how to somehow get in front of this potential scenario. The question isn't how can we send a message, but how can we detect it?
From what I understand regarding quantum communication though, the two particles are "tied" to one another so that though this may be perfect for an exploration vessel and "home base", there's no way to eavesdrop. At least with our (or my) current level of understanding.
One of the thoughts that's crossed my mind as we further explore and understand utilization of quantum information is that if there is sentient beings "Out There" with some level of capability for space exploration is that it would seem that this would be a very likely way for them to maintain communication. Efforts such as SETI would then be attempting to discover background noise (I use the term "noise" here more as commentary on what most of what we communicate tends to be) of civilizations no more advanced than ourselves attempting only very nearby levels of communication.
Civilizations capable of greater levels of exploration would likely have developed means of utilizing communication along the lines of quantum information than our radio waves.
If you listened to the whole thing, it seemed pretty clear that Russia under Putin is still very much a controlled economy (I realize I am likely stating the obvious to a lot of people and to those I apologize). Dell's statement was in fact fairly demeaning, and if Putin wanted to tell him to F***-off, to a large extent I do not blame him.
There has been much discussion on this article also though, that Russia is unwilling to buy technology that they do not manufacture. However, later in the interview Putin states quite the opposite. As I recall in reference was to tariffs, he admits to having tariffs on goods competing with Russian manufacturers that are still developing, but not having tariffs on the very high tech they do not have to allow these sectors to develop.
He is also fairly frank Russian problems regarding issues with distribution and available capital.
Putin may be a hair-breadth from an old-fashioned USSR dictator, none the less, he's one of the sharpest. He is likely no friend of ours, and his astuteness makes it all the more problematic.
One of the thoughts that's crossed my mind as we further explore and understand utilization of quantum information is that if there is sentient beings "Out There" with some level of capability for space exploration is that it would seem that this would be a very likely way for them to maintain communication. Efforts such as SETI would then be attempting to discover background noise (I use the term "noise" here more as commentary on what most of what we communicate tends to be)of civilizations no more advanced than ourselves attempting only very nearby levels of communication.
Civilizations capable of greater levels of exploration would likely have developed means of utilizing communication along the lines of quantum information than our radio waves.
At the height of the cold war, this was one of the concerns. As I recall the detonation of a nuclear device in space would cause a massive EMF pulse (Electro-Magnetic force Pulse) that could trash electronics. (Yes, one on the ground is obviously much worse, but this would allow a government to "blind" an enemy without collateral damage.)
It seems that with the end of the cold war, and the fact that an EMP can occur naturally, has been forgotten.
Spike it. You'll get more showing up than if it was simply if it visible. And if you spike it strong enough, they'll think that saw it. Where you located, I may show up if you follow my advice?
It's been a long time that I wanted to record something to VHS (though this may have to do with what's currently being broadcast) but my DVR has an option; "Copy to VHS". Someone better tell the makers of the latest recording technology that one of it's earlier predecessors has bit the dust.
Don't know if the Canadians are working on making a name for themselves in Theoretical Physics, but PI certainly is doing it for them. Attracting Hawking fits what they've been up to.
They also have a strong public outreach with public lectures; and if you're not close enough to attend you can view the past lectures at:
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The problem with this article is that it is a prime example of a technical article, with one off-hand comment from one of the researcher (these marks may have indicated cannibalism by homo sapien sapien) the press grabs it, and the point is taken as fact.
Generally, we (HSS) do not consider ourselves cannibals, but specific and localized groups have practiced cannibalism. Under severe conditions modern individuals have resorted to cannibalism for survival. I would believe that if cannibalism was a significant source of nutrition of early modern man, we would have found significantly more evidence in other excavations than this single discovery.
Do you sell a Tee-shirt saying "McDonalds Sucks" with a picture of Ronald being bitch-slapped by Hamburglar, I'd be interested. Oh, probably not, if you did, you'd be likely vacationing, with the money you made with your tee-shirt business, on some South Pacific Atoll with too many islander's offering you slushy drinks in pineapples or coconuts to have time for the post.
Your point is very valid, in that our chance to remain dominant is about as likely as the proto-mammals not to be a late night snack or find themselves toe-jam for a dino.
Shit; and what would happen to ice hockey!!!!
The article in the Journal of Leukocyte Biology raises a critical point, but is based upon some very limited patient data. For instance they classify the patients studied into "Severe", "Moderate" and RSV (not respiratory syncytial virus) and controls, with each group composed of 10, 5, 6, and 24 individuals respectfully. Also, the ages were relatively broad; for severe the average was 3.4 years (0.2-12.6 years), for moderate the average was 6.3 years (3 months-12 years), and the RVS group was 2.2 years (22 days-4 years), while the controls were 6.9 years (0.5-19 years).
My point being is that the potential indication of the research needs to be picked up and validated with a more comprehensive study.
Maybe the analogy early in this thread was appropriate.
Depending on your facility cabling can be exposed to fairly wide swings in temp. For instance, where I sit right now the cabling is run above a drop ceiling. The business has been in the facility for 20+ years, so any wiring (from computer to phone) ever installed is still up there (no one ever removes the old cables from previous installations). Temperature swings range from around 140F on a hot summer day to marginally above freezing in the winter.
A lot of cable is run in places difficult (at best) to access. If you're "in" you need to balance taking the opportunity to swap out "old" (you pick the time period) with "new". Part of the equation is your tolerance for down time. The cost of cable is likely low compared to the cost of a significant period of outage.
I believe there is a fundamental flaw with attempting to utilize the laser (straight or curved) in conjunction with (either straight or curved) sharks. Though there has been some research of benefits to utilize them in an asymmetric configuration(curved shark:straight laser, straight shark:curved laser), there is indication that the research was flawed due to the researchers themselves being curved (or maybe it was bent).
In any case, the utilization of lasers, with aquatic organisms, has been shown to be most effective, when used with sea bass, and in particular ill-tempered sea bass.
My guess is that it will be seen as an impressive technological feat, with marginal real applicability.
In the talk on "TED" JoAnn Kuchera-Morin, trumps the ability to fly into the brain, see the tissue as landscape and hear the blood density as sound. It is very unclear the advantage of the projection to the scale they've accomplished (other than to say we've done it).
They've pulled together impressive super-computer technology, but if it was on a larger PC screen versus a "walk-in" version, is there a real gain?
Paranoid.
...using incomprehensible technology (ipods) to carry terrorists plots.
In a nutshell; if we can't track who you are and what you say, you must necessarily be up to no good.
"Anonymous Coward"; I wonder how large your FBI portfolio is?
The point is, they don't move forward till the point they believe they can win the case (this is not commenting on the quality of evidence, just thought-process).
So, if you find yourself being prosecuted for something more than a speeding ticket, the "State" has put together what is (in their opinion) a sure win.
At that point, you're likely facing a lot of evidence, that you'll then have to disprove hence the perspective that you're proving yourself innocent.
Concur. No clue why the its ranked "flamebait" except that a lot of Shashdotters see this stuff as something more than what it is (entertainment). I would consider the problems that comic books ran into much the same, seeing themselves as more than what they were. Get a grip on reality, if you're generating "fluff" for society (and that's not necessarily a bad thing) do a good job at it and get on with you're life.
Yes you can make a decent living at it; so from a financial perspective you have legitimacy, be happy with making a living at something (I hope) you find rewarding, create something that people can entertain themselves with, but that should be what the goal is. Anything loftier, is missing the purpose of it.
So, the question for the folks at SETI, would be how to somehow get in front of this potential scenario. The question isn't how can we send a message, but how can we detect it?
From what I understand regarding quantum communication though, the two particles are "tied" to one another so that though this may be perfect for an exploration vessel and "home base", there's no way to eavesdrop. At least with our (or my) current level of understanding.
One of the thoughts that's crossed my mind as we further explore and understand utilization of quantum information is that if there is sentient beings "Out There" with some level of capability for space exploration is that it would seem that this would be a very likely way for them to maintain communication. Efforts such as SETI would then be attempting to discover background noise (I use the term "noise" here more as commentary on what most of what we communicate tends to be) of civilizations no more advanced than ourselves attempting only very nearby levels of communication.
Civilizations capable of greater levels of exploration would likely have developed means of utilizing communication along the lines of quantum information than our radio waves.
If you listened to the whole thing, it seemed pretty clear that Russia under Putin is still very much a controlled economy (I realize I am likely stating the obvious to a lot of people and to those I apologize). Dell's statement was in fact fairly demeaning, and if Putin wanted to tell him to F***-off, to a large extent I do not blame him.
There has been much discussion on this article also though, that Russia is unwilling to buy technology that they do not manufacture. However, later in the interview Putin states quite the opposite. As I recall in reference was to tariffs, he admits to having tariffs on goods competing with Russian manufacturers that are still developing, but not having tariffs on the very high tech they do not have to allow these sectors to develop.
He is also fairly frank Russian problems regarding issues with distribution and available capital.
Putin may be a hair-breadth from an old-fashioned USSR dictator, none the less, he's one of the sharpest. He is likely no friend of ours, and his astuteness makes it all the more problematic.
One of the thoughts that's crossed my mind as we further explore and understand utilization of quantum information is that if there is sentient beings "Out There" with some level of capability for space exploration is that it would seem that this would be a very likely way for them to maintain communication. Efforts such as SETI would then be attempting to discover background noise (I use the term "noise" here more as commentary on what most of what we communicate tends to be)of civilizations no more advanced than ourselves attempting only very nearby levels of communication.
Civilizations capable of greater levels of exploration would likely have developed means of utilizing communication along the lines of quantum information than our radio waves.
I often am a bit loose with my terns, or maybe its that I want my terns set loose.
I don't think this makes me feel any better; we're both uninformed and massively forgetful (given the viewing the Bond film would have).
Greg
I appreciate the comforting words; in other words, not forgotten by everyone, just most everyone.
Greg
Yep. Proofe reading has never been my longesuite and I was probably a bit loose with terns.
Greg
At the height of the cold war, this was one of the concerns. As I recall the detonation of a nuclear device in space would cause a massive EMF pulse (Electro-Magnetic force Pulse) that could trash electronics. (Yes, one on the ground is obviously much worse, but this would allow a government to "blind" an enemy without collateral damage.)
It seems that with the end of the cold war, and the fact that an EMP can occur naturally, has been forgotten.
Greg P
Spike it. You'll get more showing up than if it was simply if it visible. And if you spike it strong enough, they'll think that saw it. Where you located, I may show up if you follow my advice?
Greg P
It's been a long time that I wanted to record something to VHS (though this may have to do with what's currently being broadcast) but my DVR has an option; "Copy to VHS". Someone better tell the makers of the latest recording technology that one of it's earlier predecessors has bit the dust.
Greg
Don't know if the Canadians are working on making a name for themselves in Theoretical Physics, but PI certainly is doing it for them. Attracting Hawking fits what they've been up to.
They also have a strong public outreach with public lectures; and if you're not close enough to attend you can view the past lectures at:
http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/Outreach/Public_Lectures/View_Past_Public_Lectures/
Greg
HEY!. I resemble that statement.
Greg
And that way we get to keep the dolphins; great idea!