I don't know how you can cram that entire graphic novel into a 2-hour movie.
Theres no way to keep 100% of it unchanged and uncut, but that's true of any media conversion. Many people seem to consider the original comic book form to be perfect, many of those people are going to be disappointed with the result no matter how good the movie is of it's own right. Some because they read the comics first, some because of a warped sense of elitism. That doesn't mean the movie is doomed to be worse than the comic books to an unbiased judge. It could be changed for the better.
I agree, there's a lot of peripheral debate when it comes to games about everything except quality. The suggestion that "game developers are putting more effort into immersion than they should" is ridiculous. It's a side issue. Game developers should be putting more effort into games, there's no secret formula to it. Most of the games on the wii can barely be called games, their model seems to be "So many people own a wii that if only %1 of them buy it without knowing how crappy it is, and we spend less than a thousand dollars developing it, we will make millions!" They NEED to be making serious efforts.
Without a working visual cortex, nothing from the eyes enters the brain. At all.
It would be really nice if hypothesis and biology worked like that, where biology followed our hypotheses, but it doesn't. It would be interesting to see an fMRI, or see if he could navigate the maze with earplugs or some way of throwing off air pressure. Assuming it can't possibly be his eyes connecting to some other part of the brain simply because textbooks say the eyes connect only to the visual cortex is not a safe conclusion.
You're behind the curve when it comes to patent law. Some guy patented mirrors last week. Someone tried to present evidence of prior art, but the judge just saw himself.
That's a good point, why can they make all manner of bells and whistles for gaming controllers, but they can't let you plug in a mouse and keyboard. We can get low-grade CCD (wii controllers) and 6 tilt indicators, with up to 40 buttons, but a mouse on a console is impossible?
I'm suspecting the real reason is control, something like "Then 3rd party controllers would pop up for much cheaper, and while that wouldn't really hurt our buisness, it would set a bad precedent and then gamers would expect more and more customization from other sources like what happened for PCs."
There are millions of cars just sitting around all over the world, and stuff like air-conditioning has been around since the 1950's or so, headlights for even longer, etc.
Exactly! My baby was concieved in the back of a 57 cadillac, it's only appropriate that he's incubated in one too.
IANASCM (submarine crew member) but I don't think there's a way to get off a doomed submarine. If it hits a rock and floods, everyone goes down together.
... except saying it like that sounds a little wierd...
Yes, it was a nerdly joke: people always say "correlation is not causation" but Tetsujin changed it to "explanation." So I started saying it along with him and got confused when he said something I wasn't used to. At least that was the joke. Explaining it takes all the humor out of it. Not that there was much humor in there to begin with I guess.
Anyway I think the fortune cookie logic here is, as usual, misapplied.
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This result is in line with most other research in the field. As far as Kristjansson knows, no studies have proved a correlation between reduced cosmic rays and reduced cloud formation.
They're not saying "A happens with B, therefore A causes B." They're saying "A does not happen with B."
I guess the converse is possibly true, that lack of correlation does not indicate lack of causation per se. Didn't read if there was a possibility of a non-correlating causation, or maybe if I did, I don't have enough of a background in atmospheric science to realize it.
I didn't say they were. I myself play games on consoles because I don't want to mess around with computer settings to relax. A lot of idiots on/. would call that laziness though.
Sure they did. It makes them feel safer that the government is doing something.
No. Some people merely accepted the rationalization without thinking about it. Few people actually wanted it. That's a key distinction, as it's a key distinction that most chinese people likely do not actually WANT to be censored, they're just not violently opposed to it.
I don't WANT to get a cavity drilled and filled, but I'm okay with it because I accept the dentist's logic. People who accepted the propaghanda for the patriot act (let's call them idiots) didn't WANT to lose those freedoms but thought it was necessary.
Most of those same people would have much preferred that everyone of a certain skin color be executed rather than any of the constitution be modified, although they are loath to admit it. No one actually wanted to lose their freedoms.
That part made me wanna mod you down. WTF...Point being - horses and cars have nothing in common (except one particular use).
You must be new here, it's essential that you use a car metaphor.
My point was that consoles are already dominant over computers when it comes to videogames, just as cars are already dominant over horses when it comes to infrastructure.
I say it's arguable whether or not consoles are already starting to experience the same problems, but what is not arguable is that "Once consoles really catch on, they will experience the same hardships as PC gaming" is at least 5 years too late.
They did indeed learn from past mistakes and are remarkably forward-thinking. They made a boat that was doomed to fail miserably, named it the Titanic, and said it was unsinkable. Many years later there was a movie made about it that was a box-office smash hit. They're now seeding an even bigger future movie by making certain that ALL their boats will sink.
More DRM, more publishers strong arming the used games market. More angry comsumers switching to consoles as a result.
I've been wondering for a while what portion of gamers actually care about DRM even in the most draconian forms. The consensus on/. seems to be that any DRM is a boycottable offense. The consensus on gamefaqs on the other hand seems to be "n00b! LOL!"
I get the sense that most of the migration to consoles is driven by not knowing how to use a computer/laziness and fewer games being released on the PC, not anything so high minded as getting fed up with DRM.
Online registrations for console games because they are sold used more than PC games. More buggy releases for consoles, justified with downloadable content (patches) once you have registered online (see above sentence).
Once consoles really catch on, they will experience the same hardships as PC gaming.
Sure, and I think once cars really catch on, they'll start experiencing some of the problems horse and buggies have!
(Yes, I do realize that to be a perfect metaphor, a horse and buggy would have to be much, much faster than a car)
Ah yes. The day the videogame industry lost Mewshi_nya's buisness was a dark day indeed. They still call it "The saddest monday ever." Miyamoto wrote on twitter that day "Today I let down Mewshi, had to up the prozac dosage:-(".
I personally wept for hours upon hearing the news.
Does anybody play EQ anymore anyway? And if they do, aren't they in their 40's and living in their mom's basement? So... they don't have any money to spend anyway...
Well, they have enough money for microtransactions, which may be a driving force behind this. Anyway, even if they do have their own house, they don't have any money anymore.
What's wrong with just making decently entertaining games that people are actually willing to go out and buy?
That's not exactly the thinking of course. The thinking is more "what gets me more money? Maybe microtransactions do." Microtransactions and good games aren't mutually exclusive, but a lot of the people making these decisions are just looking for the easiest way to maximize their profit. The old joke actually fits here:
1. Make a game 2. Put microtransactions into it 3. ??? 4. Profit!!!
The 3rd step doesn't really need to be identified for the microtransaction plan to dominate. If it gets them to step 4, step 3 could be "Go back to step one and make the game good so it will sell more" or it could just be "allow gamers to think 'It's only $3, who cares if it's good' to get you a lot of microtransactions with minimal investment."
Don't give all of your examples in the past tense.... Many US citizens still support oppressing the rights of gay people. Many US citizens support the unconstitutional searches, seizures, and wiretaps that have gone on since 9/11. A huge number of US citizens supported invading a foreign country and overthowing their government.
None of your examples were proof that we STILL like slavery or want to deny women the right to vote. I think what happened here is you thought he was saying the US was imperfect at one point, which would be a reason to object to the past tense, but he wasn't saying that, so it's not.
It's not just Chinese. US citizens seem to enjoy having their rights violated as well. They reelected Bush, most of those responsible for the PATRIOT act are still in office, etc. etc.
Say what you will about bush, the patriot act, and american stupidity, they didn't vote for him BECAUSE he undermined our constitutional rights, they voted for him for other reasons, real or imaginary.
No one was saying "I'm voting for bush because I think it's good that the government listens into our conversations."
So no, we don't enjoy it. Just as the chinese don't ENJOY the censorship, they just enjoy not having their knees broken for speaking out against the censorship more.
Treating people like criminals will make them lose respect for you and that's a really bad way to make a sale. And yes, that includes snippy little remarks about "how honest" they are. I, personally, will never buy another game from this company so long as this dipshit is at the helm.
I think it would be really easy to become very jaded about DRM and piracy when you're the one being pirated from. I DON'T think it's fair to heap abuse on someone from that background who is making a compromise.
The guy is making a game, and is likely annoyed at least with people who pirate it. Some are people who bought the game, but download the cracked version because of the DRM, probably. It's of course impossible to test whether that's most people or whether most pirated copies are downloaded by people who never paid a dime for it. This is one of the only ways I can see to actually test the idea that DRM encourages piracy.
Don't buy the games if you don't want to, but acting offended because the guy isn't giving away his product with a smile is, well, absurd.
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I don't know how you can cram that entire graphic novel into a 2-hour movie.
Theres no way to keep 100% of it unchanged and uncut, but that's true of any media conversion. Many people seem to consider the original comic book form to be perfect, many of those people are going to be disappointed with the result no matter how good the movie is of it's own right. Some because they read the comics first, some because of a warped sense of elitism. That doesn't mean the movie is doomed to be worse than the comic books to an unbiased judge. It could be changed for the better.
there are no directors still living that are capable of capturing what actually makes this work a masterpiece.
How convenient: Your hypothesis cannot be tested because of copyright law.
I agree, there's a lot of peripheral debate when it comes to games about everything except quality. The suggestion that "game developers are putting more effort into immersion than they should" is ridiculous. It's a side issue. Game developers should be putting more effort into games, there's no secret formula to it. Most of the games on the wii can barely be called games, their model seems to be "So many people own a wii that if only %1 of them buy it without knowing how crappy it is, and we spend less than a thousand dollars developing it, we will make millions!" They NEED to be making serious efforts.
At least some of that has to do with the absurdly high replacement rate of the 360, which has nothing to do with the games themselves.
That is indeed a better idea. I'd like to think I would have come up with it myself eventually.
Without a working visual cortex, nothing from the eyes enters the brain. At all.
It would be really nice if hypothesis and biology worked like that, where biology followed our hypotheses, but it doesn't. It would be interesting to see an fMRI, or see if he could navigate the maze with earplugs or some way of throwing off air pressure. Assuming it can't possibly be his eyes connecting to some other part of the brain simply because textbooks say the eyes connect only to the visual cortex is not a safe conclusion.
You're behind the curve when it comes to patent law. Some guy patented mirrors last week. Someone tried to present evidence of prior art, but the judge just saw himself.
That's a good point, why can they make all manner of bells and whistles for gaming controllers, but they can't let you plug in a mouse and keyboard. We can get low-grade CCD (wii controllers) and 6 tilt indicators, with up to 40 buttons, but a mouse on a console is impossible?
I'm suspecting the real reason is control, something like "Then 3rd party controllers would pop up for much cheaper, and while that wouldn't really hurt our buisness, it would set a bad precedent and then gamers would expect more and more customization from other sources like what happened for PCs."
I love games, but I hate game making companies.
Every time someone needs to sell an issue of something. they say PC gaming is dead.
I guess this is a sign that /. isn't getting the hits they're looking for?
There are millions of cars just sitting around all over the world, and stuff like air-conditioning has been around since the 1950's or so, headlights for even longer, etc.
Exactly! My baby was concieved in the back of a 57 cadillac, it's only appropriate that he's incubated in one too.
IANASCM (submarine crew member) but I don't think there's a way to get off a doomed submarine. If it hits a rock and floods, everyone goes down together.
Yes, it was a nerdly joke: people always say "correlation is not causation" but Tetsujin changed it to "explanation." So I started saying it along with him and got confused when he said something I wasn't used to. At least that was the joke. Explaining it takes all the humor out of it. Not that there was much humor in there to begin with I guess.
Correlation is not causa... wait... huh?
Anyway I think the fortune cookie logic here is, as usual, misapplied.
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They're not saying "A happens with B, therefore A causes B." They're saying "A does not happen with B."
I guess the converse is possibly true, that lack of correlation does not indicate lack of causation per se. Didn't read if there was a possibility of a non-correlating causation, or maybe if I did, I don't have enough of a background in atmospheric science to realize it.
I didn't say they were. I myself play games on consoles because I don't want to mess around with computer settings to relax. A lot of idiots on /. would call that laziness though.
Sure they did. It makes them feel safer that the government is doing something.
No. Some people merely accepted the rationalization without thinking about it. Few people actually wanted it. That's a key distinction, as it's a key distinction that most chinese people likely do not actually WANT to be censored, they're just not violently opposed to it.
I don't WANT to get a cavity drilled and filled, but I'm okay with it because I accept the dentist's logic. People who accepted the propaghanda for the patriot act (let's call them idiots) didn't WANT to lose those freedoms but thought it was necessary.
Most of those same people would have much preferred that everyone of a certain skin color be executed rather than any of the constitution be modified, although they are loath to admit it. No one actually wanted to lose their freedoms.
That part made me wanna mod you down. WTF...Point being - horses and cars have nothing in common (except one particular use).
You must be new here, it's essential that you use a car metaphor.
My point was that consoles are already dominant over computers when it comes to videogames, just as cars are already dominant over horses when it comes to infrastructure.
I say it's arguable whether or not consoles are already starting to experience the same problems, but what is not arguable is that "Once consoles really catch on, they will experience the same hardships as PC gaming" is at least 5 years too late.
They did indeed learn from past mistakes and are remarkably forward-thinking. They made a boat that was doomed to fail miserably, named it the Titanic, and said it was unsinkable. Many years later there was a movie made about it that was a box-office smash hit. They're now seeding an even bigger future movie by making certain that ALL their boats will sink.
I did the math. Each of those companies lost one customer.
Significance = near zero.
More DRM, more publishers strong arming the used games market.
More angry comsumers switching to consoles as a result.
I've been wondering for a while what portion of gamers actually care about DRM even in the most draconian forms. The consensus on /. seems to be that any DRM is a boycottable offense. The consensus on gamefaqs on the other hand seems to be "n00b! LOL!"
I get the sense that most of the migration to consoles is driven by not knowing how to use a computer/laziness and fewer games being released on the PC, not anything so high minded as getting fed up with DRM.
Online registrations for console games because they are sold used more than PC games.
More buggy releases for consoles, justified with downloadable content (patches) once you have registered online (see above sentence).
Once consoles really catch on, they will experience the same hardships as PC gaming.
Sure, and I think once cars really catch on, they'll start experiencing some of the problems horse and buggies have!
(Yes, I do realize that to be a perfect metaphor, a horse and buggy would have to be much, much faster than a car)
The video game industry lost me a while ago...
Ah yes. The day the videogame industry lost Mewshi_nya's buisness was a dark day indeed. They still call it "The saddest monday ever." Miyamoto wrote on twitter that day "Today I let down Mewshi, had to up the prozac dosage :-(".
I personally wept for hours upon hearing the news.
Does anybody play EQ anymore anyway? And if they do, aren't they in their 40's and living in their mom's basement? So... they don't have any money to spend anyway...
Well, they have enough money for microtransactions, which may be a driving force behind this. Anyway, even if they do have their own house, they don't have any money anymore.
What's wrong with just making decently entertaining games that people are actually willing to go out and buy?
That's not exactly the thinking of course. The thinking is more "what gets me more money? Maybe microtransactions do." Microtransactions and good games aren't mutually exclusive, but a lot of the people making these decisions are just looking for the easiest way to maximize their profit. The old joke actually fits here:
1. Make a game
2. Put microtransactions into it
3. ???
4. Profit!!!
The 3rd step doesn't really need to be identified for the microtransaction plan to dominate. If it gets them to step 4, step 3 could be "Go back to step one and make the game good so it will sell more" or it could just be "allow gamers to think 'It's only $3, who cares if it's good' to get you a lot of microtransactions with minimal investment."
Don't give all of your examples in the past tense.... Many US citizens still support oppressing the rights of gay people. Many US citizens support the unconstitutional searches, seizures, and wiretaps that have gone on since 9/11. A huge number of US citizens supported invading a foreign country and overthowing their government.
None of your examples were proof that we STILL like slavery or want to deny women the right to vote. I think what happened here is you thought he was saying the US was imperfect at one point, which would be a reason to object to the past tense, but he wasn't saying that, so it's not.
It's not just Chinese. US citizens seem to enjoy having their rights violated as well. They reelected Bush, most of those responsible for the PATRIOT act are still in office, etc. etc.
Say what you will about bush, the patriot act, and american stupidity, they didn't vote for him BECAUSE he undermined our constitutional rights, they voted for him for other reasons, real or imaginary.
No one was saying "I'm voting for bush because I think it's good that the government listens into our conversations."
So no, we don't enjoy it. Just as the chinese don't ENJOY the censorship, they just enjoy not having their knees broken for speaking out against the censorship more.
Treating people like criminals will make them lose respect for you and that's a really bad way to make a sale. And yes, that includes snippy little remarks about "how honest" they are. I, personally, will never buy another game from this company so long as this dipshit is at the helm.
I think it would be really easy to become very jaded about DRM and piracy when you're the one being pirated from. I DON'T think it's fair to heap abuse on someone from that background who is making a compromise.
The guy is making a game, and is likely annoyed at least with people who pirate it. Some are people who bought the game, but download the cracked version because of the DRM, probably. It's of course impossible to test whether that's most people or whether most pirated copies are downloaded by people who never paid a dime for it. This is one of the only ways I can see to actually test the idea that DRM encourages piracy.
Don't buy the games if you don't want to, but acting offended because the guy isn't giving away his product with a smile is, well, absurd.