I can think of tons of things I'd like to start using Bluetooth. I was just thinking the other day that I'd really like my car stereo to accept music from an iPod. In fact, if I had enough storage on my PDA, I'd rather have the stereo play streamed music from there. There is a real need for short wireless connections that don't overlap with 802.11x. We are just waiting for a critical mass of products. Whether everything will interface with each other is another question. Maybe that's where Jini or whatever the hell it's called is for. (i work for Sun, so pardon the Jxxx reference) In any case, sorry for rambling. I'm out.
Sun's only other market, high performance Internet servers, evaporated with the DotCom bubble. They're stuck holding a fist full of defaulted loans, cancelled leases, and warehouses of repossessed server boxes in the wake of that carnage. Nobody's interested in going that route again.
While I agree with some of your assertions, you are wrong about the quote above. Sun was the only big outfit during the dot.com boom that demanded payment for their servers on delivery every time. We were doing so well, we didn't have any need to float a loan to some startup. HP, Dell and IBM all gave their servers away to maintain marketshare only to see their customers bellyup before they could pay for the hardware. That hurt them in the short-term. Unfortunately, Sun's customers had paid for their gear and it was sold during bankruptcy as assets for dirt cheap. Those grey market sales are still haunting us. I personally know VARS who are still cashing in on ever-cheaper Sun boxes that they simply piece together from auctions, etc and sell for a tidy margin well below Sun's prices. Sun has to be able to hang on until the hardware of 2000 (a la E450, 420R and the like) are obsolete and people need to buy new gear. That may be a long time, however. That is what worries me.
I disagree. There is a solid bsd core under the hood of MacOS X. It shouldn't be that great a task to recompile it for these mac workstations. I have been looking at this day coming for a while. IBM did not volunteer to develop a new proc for Apple all of a sudden without some new motivation. One of those may be to siphon off Sun's workstation sales to THEIR chip instead of allowing Intel and Itanium to take their sweet time. IBM would surely love to kill off Sun. What an easy way to help kill a competitor by selling chips to Apple for profit! I wonder if IBM is going to use their leverage to start releasing CHRP boards and compete with Intel for the next generation. The field seems pretty wide open to me with AMD, Intel and maybe IBM competing for 64-bit desktop space.
I agree with most of what you said. I disagree with the easiest way to apply patches part. I've recently started using Live Upgrade as my method of patching. I "upgrade" to the same or higher update/release and apply patches onto that boot environment. Then all that's required is to reboot into the new environment. If something gets hosed or a patch doesn't agree with an app I depend on, I have the previous environment that I can fall back on. It's quite handy and makes everyone sleep better at night.
WTF does stock price have to do with it?
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Stock price is only a reflection of how the market perceives the value of the company. Even that is often so skewed as to not have any real bearing on the true worth of companies. The dotcom bubble is a great example. While Sun's stock was flying through the roof, it was greatly overvalued during the boom. It was not, however, as overpriced as most of the other "what's a business plan?" stocks of the time. To make a judgement on how well Sun is doing now based on a 96% decline in stock value makes no sense. Sun stock is actually up 100% from just several months ago. What shall we assume from that? Has sun doubled its real value in that time? Its sales? Of course not! Sun is doing appreciably better over the last year on margins and costs while sales have steadied in a tough market. How will Sun do in the future? I honestly don't know. I hope it does well. [My paychecks are important to me.] It's real easy to make snide remarks from the cheap seats buddy. I hope your 401k portfolio is not a reflection of how well you are doing!
While your post was funny, it brings to mind something I'd read before about Apple Records. They agreed to let Jobs et al use the apple name if they did not get into music and dilute the trademark of the Beatles-owned music company. At the time, computers and music were worlds apart. Now that I see Apple's latest endeavors, I am wondering if someone is going to throw a fit soon.
I see your point, but they have that ability now. Provided you used your real identity to open back accounts, the government can freeze your assets quite easily. I only carry a fraction of my money in cash. Most of it is in 401k, my house, cars etc. It would be small consolation to have a few hundred in cash when the rest is frozen.
while scaling to 64 cpus is useful in some cases, if i can do the same amount of work on an 8 or 16 way machine under linux, then why would I either care about said scaling or desire to spend the megabucks for such a system?
You have little concept of what large systems really do. x86 boxes do not have the i/o for huge databases or HPC apps. What most linux kids never run into is real starvation of their procs. What until you NEED datasets (in memory) in the range of >100GB. What x86 box do you know that can handle that? Not only that but you need the granularity in the kernel and i/o subsystems to allow scaling up to >100 procs.
Is there a tradeoff for this ability to scale? Of course! Solaris is going to be slower on comparable low-end hardware than a stripped down OS built for uniproc/integer operations. Hell, Linux still seems fscking slow compared to Win9x because of the tradeoffs inherent in X-Windows. Strip out all the cool network crap from X and run it unfettered in the kernel and I bet it would be a lot more responsive. Would anyone do that? Maybe, but it's a tradeoff.
Tradeoffs are where most people on Slashdot seem to miss the boat. You can't have your cake and eat it too (most of the time). Every tool has it's use.
I hate to "me too", but I find myself in the same boat. I have an Optra 1855ps laserprinter. I have two extra cartridges for it but have had no need to change the first one yet after 2 years! Admittedly, I have pretty light printing demands, but this thing has survived my wife leaving the window open during a rainstorm (it got pretty wet) and the loads of cat dander that float about my house.
On the other hand, my crappy HP Deskjet has gone through more ink than the original cost of the machine. To top it off, I had to waste half the ink just to align, test and unplug the jets a couple of times. Thank Goodness it finally died (I had a little to do with that) a while ago. I flatly refused to buy another. My wife wants one of those all in one models that probably wouldn't do a damn thing I wanted it to do without Winblows. Hell, if it's not networked, postscript and laser.... fuck it!
OK, I have to disagree with you on The Last Temptation. That was by far the best movie of the year. In fact, it was the Academy's best shot at proving it isn't afraid of controversy. Even if you grant the performances in Rain Man put it over the top for Best Picture, Barry Levinson's directing was flat and uninspiring. Surely the surrealistic depictions of Christ's internal torment were a far more difficult directing accomplishment than Barry Levinson's scenes of a car ride and casino floor?!? The directing Oscar should be judged much like diving in the olympics. There is a degree of difficulty involved. How hard is it to direct Rain Man, Golden Pond and other dialog driven flicks? The job of the director is to tell the story without getting in the way. When you step into films that require mental examination of the characters, you find out who the real directors are. Scorcese and Kubrick accel(led) at this. This is also why most Stephen King flicks really suck on film. It took Kubrick to tell The Shining without narration or a 5 night (dull) miniseries. Sadly, Stephen Spielberg failed at this in AI. I had high hopes for him and the project. Anyway, sorry for the rant.
I had moderator points, but cannot in good conscience use them because this is a thread about my employer. Still, this has to be rated as flamebait. The parent post is so full of shit, that I can't believe anyone not viewing at -1 should see it. The statement: "They're screwed anyway." Why are we screwed? Is investing in a proven platform such a bad idea? Should we all just give up and make Linux the only OS? Would that make everybody here happy? No M$, no xBSD, no MacOS, no OS390 and no Plan9. Who the hell needs any of them when Linux is so obviously superior in every aspect?
The statement: "Unless they can come up with some HUGE reason to not go Intel/Linux the server market is lost to them." Did you read the article? They have x86/Linux blades announced today. Can you pull your head out of your rectal cavity long enough to read the posted stories BEFORE you hand out your elegant two line quip stating the emminent demise of a billion dollar a year company? Besides,isn't your two liner a lot like the hype about NT circa early 90's? Unix was dead back then. Look, I love Linux on my machines at home. I still have problems with it on my laptop, but that'll get fixed soon. It's great. It's free. Just remember, you don't always bring cost into the equation. My choice of surgeons has little to do with how much they charge. It's how well they can do the job.
I believe the intent was to supply HDTV signal over say component video cabling to HD-ready sets who do not have firewire and/or dvi connectors. I waited until the mitsu came with firewire, then I bought it. I don't really need DVI right now. However, it looks as if I may require an upgrade to get the dvi interface so I can hook up a DishNetwork box in the future because that would be considered a set-top box. Should Dish include component-out I would still be able to use the "analog connections" to get the 1080i feeds. This is kind of a rambling bunch of nonsense, but you know, I don't feel like writing anything coherent today anyways.
Yeah, I was unable to log in or view the poll results for a while. Maybe it's some strange static page they put up during patching or updating. Anyone know for sure?
I find the idea of a massive computer lurking rather funny. Of course, it could be the 4 Guinesses I just polished off. Oh well, time for bed. I hope I don't have dreams of ENIAC or some other thing now!
Off the top of my head... yes. If you are just testing a cluster app that supports 2 nodes, then SCSI is fine. Change the id of one of the controllers and you'll mange without much problem. If you want to scale beyond that, your choices are fibre channel, firewire or a "SCSI over IP" implementation. Of those, "SCSI over IP" is very new and requires an expensive box that supports it (not to mention gigabit ethernet cards and switch). Fibre channel is pretty standard for large installs, but it's very costly abd SANs can be a real pain to setup. (I've done quite a few and would prefer to run screaming out of a room than do another with multiple vendors involved). Firwire is very easy to setup as long as you remember its limitations and very inexpensive. Consider that a 6 port firewire hub costs $99 at most (belkin.com) and firewire cards are at frys for $20. Add a few cables and a firewire drive and you're good to go. I think the big point here is that you shouldn't design a large database for production on the current firewire, but you could economically setup dozens of these for testing and development. It may only be for their own cost savings. Can you imagine how much it costs Oracle to run dozens of test clusters on Sun or HP boxes? or even just the cost of fibre channel boxes and host adapters to hook up to cheap linux clusters? Larry may have just saved himself a lot of $$$.
I find things to be the exact opposite. For low end configs, RAID 5 is best usually because of cost considerations. At the high end, RAID 1 or 0+1 is found most often because of the performance, redundancy of controllers/paths and tolerance of multiple failures. Your experience may vary though as this whitepaper explains.
I am so very glad that my Representative and Senators were not on the list. I am surprised to see that Fritz (Hollings) is not at the top of the list. I guess it doesn't count that he just proposes more crap than everybody else, eh?
I call bullshit! The Republicans did the same thing to Clinton for six years. This is simply what happens when the White House and Senate are held by different parties. You can't expect Dems to approve the conservative right to life'rs that Bush sends up there. Toward the end of his term, he will send up a load of more centrist appointees (with hidden right-wing gems mixed in) to try to get some seats filled prior to a dem taking over. It happened with Clinton and Bush the First, it'll happen again. Don't sweat it too much.
I just really want a serial port on there so I could use it for a very sweet console when I'm onsite. Does anyone know of a solution that would work with this? Maybe usb to serial? My present Fujitsu is great, but really overkill for most things I need to use it for. A little pad like that would be much more convenient.
I would fix it for him anyways and not report the mod in the case notes. As long as it doesn't tie into the power backplane (and he accepts random ecc errors) I'd fix any obviously defective parts. Tracking down software glitches could prove a little dicey though. I really hope this machine is just for benchmarking or something 'cause I'd be scared sh**less to have this as a production Oracle box!
I know, I thought I was pretty low too! Remember when you could just put your name in for replies? You didn't need to register for quite a while. I just registered mine to save time on the typing my name in. There were a lot of great posters back then. I remember AlphaRisc, MEEPT and even Taco used to get involved in discussions. If I'd only known what a pissing contest you could have with your ID number, I would have registered early and often!!
Five years later and thank God I'm still not a manager!
Just kidding. I love the ego of Larry Ellison. I heard he quit the board of Apple because he doesn't have the time to dedicate to it. Yet, he's pouring money into his bid for the America's Cup. It must be great to be that rich.
This sounds very cool, but I would really like more info than this. Plus, it isn't going to be released until next year. Within that time frame there will be the usual delays and then final release to a couple customers. Don't get me wrong, I think this is cool. Especially the linux part. This could go a long way to helping Linux scale better on massive machines. The second thought is: can it be partitioned? This is a rather big machine and goes against the trend I have witnessed to use many smaller machines to accomplish your goal. I'll have to ask some of the guys at Oracle if they've looked at Linux installs of this size, but as far as I know they only make x86 ports right now. So, I wonder what linux apps would someone run on a system this big? (I know. Insert obligatory Quake, Beowolf and porn server reference here.)
Disclaimer: I work for an SGI competitor. But I have personally installed Linux on every piece of harware I can get my hands on. Just to play usually, but still. They just pay my mortgage.
At the risk of appearing uninformed (in this case I am), will MLP compressed LPCM require a new decoder in A/V receivers or will the DVD-Audio players have to convert to a known format? I only ask because I was just getting comfortable/bored with my present receiver. I haven't bothered to keep up with these formats. I spent the last 2 years boning-up on HDTV issues and am enjoying the 55 inch 1080i goodness as I type. (PS. DiscoveryHD rocks!) Any concise links would be good as well.
I can think of tons of things I'd like to start using Bluetooth. I was just thinking the other day that I'd really like my car stereo to accept music from an iPod. In fact, if I had enough storage on my PDA, I'd rather have the stereo play streamed music from there. There is a real need for short wireless connections that don't overlap with 802.11x. We are just waiting for a critical mass of products. Whether everything will interface with each other is another question. Maybe that's where Jini or whatever the hell it's called is for. (i work for Sun, so pardon the Jxxx reference)
In any case, sorry for rambling. I'm out.
War Yankees losing in 7. (Jim Rome reference).
While I agree with some of your assertions, you are wrong about the quote above. Sun was the only big outfit during the dot.com boom that demanded payment for their servers on delivery every time. We were doing so well, we didn't have any need to float a loan to some startup. HP, Dell and IBM all gave their servers away to maintain marketshare only to see their customers bellyup before they could pay for the hardware. That hurt them in the short-term. Unfortunately, Sun's customers had paid for their gear and it was sold during bankruptcy as assets for dirt cheap. Those grey market sales are still haunting us. I personally know VARS who are still cashing in on ever-cheaper Sun boxes that they simply piece together from auctions, etc and sell for a tidy margin well below Sun's prices. Sun has to be able to hang on until the hardware of 2000 (a la E450, 420R and the like) are obsolete and people need to buy new gear. That may be a long time, however. That is what worries me.
That was damn funny! I hope the moderators took enough history classes to appreciate that.
I disagree. There is a solid bsd core under the hood of MacOS X. It shouldn't be that great a task to recompile it for these mac workstations. I have been looking at this day coming for a while. IBM did not volunteer to develop a new proc for Apple all of a sudden without some new motivation. One of those may be to siphon off Sun's workstation sales to THEIR chip instead of allowing Intel and Itanium to take their sweet time. IBM would surely love to kill off Sun. What an easy way to help kill a competitor by selling chips to Apple for profit! I wonder if IBM is going to use their leverage to start releasing CHRP boards and compete with Intel for the next generation. The field seems pretty wide open to me with AMD, Intel and maybe IBM competing for 64-bit desktop space.
I agree with most of what you said. I disagree with the easiest way to apply patches part. I've recently started using Live Upgrade as my method of patching. I "upgrade" to the same or higher update/release and apply patches onto that boot environment. Then all that's required is to reboot into the new environment. If something gets hosed or a patch doesn't agree with an app I depend on, I have the previous environment that I can fall back on. It's quite handy and makes everyone sleep better at night.
Stock price is only a reflection of how the market perceives the value of the company. Even that is often so skewed as to not have any real bearing on the true worth of companies. The dotcom bubble is a great example. While Sun's stock was flying through the roof, it was greatly overvalued during the boom. It was not, however, as overpriced as most of the other "what's a business plan?" stocks of the time.
To make a judgement on how well Sun is doing now based on a 96% decline in stock value makes no sense. Sun stock is actually up 100% from just several months ago. What shall we assume from that? Has sun doubled its real value in that time? Its sales? Of course not! Sun is doing appreciably better over the last year on margins and costs while sales have steadied in a tough market.
How will Sun do in the future? I honestly don't know. I hope it does well. [My paychecks are important to me.] It's real easy to make snide remarks from the cheap seats buddy. I hope your 401k portfolio is not a reflection of how well you are doing!
While your post was funny, it brings to mind something I'd read before about Apple Records. They agreed to let Jobs et al use the apple name if they did not get into music and dilute the trademark of the Beatles-owned music company. At the time, computers and music were worlds apart. Now that I see Apple's latest endeavors, I am wondering if someone is going to throw a fit soon.
I see your point, but they have that ability now. Provided you used your real identity to open back accounts, the government can freeze your assets quite easily. I only carry a fraction of my money in cash. Most of it is in 401k, my house, cars etc. It would be small consolation to have a few hundred in cash when the rest is frozen.
You have little concept of what large systems really do. x86 boxes do not have the i/o for huge databases or HPC apps. What most linux kids never run into is real starvation of their procs. What until you NEED datasets (in memory) in the range of >100GB. What x86 box do you know that can handle that? Not only that but you need the granularity in the kernel and i/o subsystems to allow scaling up to >100 procs.
Is there a tradeoff for this ability to scale? Of course! Solaris is going to be slower on comparable low-end hardware than a stripped down OS built for uniproc/integer operations. Hell, Linux still seems fscking slow compared to Win9x because of the tradeoffs inherent in X-Windows. Strip out all the cool network crap from X and run it unfettered in the kernel and I bet it would be a lot more responsive. Would anyone do that? Maybe, but it's a tradeoff.
Tradeoffs are where most people on Slashdot seem to miss the boat. You can't have your cake and eat it too (most of the time). Every tool has it's use.
I hate to "me too", but I find myself in the same boat. I have an Optra 1855ps laserprinter. I have two extra cartridges for it but have had no need to change the first one yet after 2 years! Admittedly, I have pretty light printing demands, but this thing has survived my wife leaving the window open during a rainstorm (it got pretty wet) and the loads of cat dander that float about my house.
.... fuck it!
On the other hand, my crappy HP Deskjet has gone through more ink than the original cost of the machine. To top it off, I had to waste half the ink just to align, test and unplug the jets a couple of times. Thank Goodness it finally died (I had a little to do with that) a while ago. I flatly refused to buy another. My wife wants one of those all in one models that probably wouldn't do a damn thing I wanted it to do without Winblows. Hell, if it's not networked, postscript and laser
Pardon the rant,
OK, I have to disagree with you on The Last Temptation. That was by far the best movie of the year. In fact, it was the Academy's best shot at proving it isn't afraid of controversy.
Even if you grant the performances in Rain Man put it over the top for Best Picture, Barry Levinson's directing was flat and uninspiring. Surely the surrealistic depictions of Christ's internal torment were a far more difficult directing accomplishment than Barry Levinson's scenes of a car ride and casino floor?!?
The directing Oscar should be judged much like diving in the olympics. There is a degree of difficulty involved. How hard is it to direct Rain Man, Golden Pond and other dialog driven flicks? The job of the director is to tell the story without getting in the way. When you step into films that require mental examination of the characters, you find out who the real directors are. Scorcese and Kubrick accel(led) at this. This is also why most Stephen King flicks really suck on film. It took Kubrick to tell The Shining without narration or a 5 night (dull) miniseries. Sadly, Stephen Spielberg failed at this in AI. I had high hopes for him and the project.
Anyway, sorry for the rant.
I had moderator points, but cannot in good conscience use them because this is a thread about my employer. Still, this has to be rated as flamebait. The parent post is so full of shit, that I can't believe anyone not viewing at -1 should see it.
The statement: "They're screwed anyway."
Why are we screwed? Is investing in a proven platform such a bad idea? Should we all just give up and make Linux the only OS? Would that make everybody here happy? No M$, no xBSD, no MacOS, no OS390 and no Plan9. Who the hell needs any of them when Linux is so obviously superior in every aspect?
The statement: "Unless they can come up with some HUGE reason to not go Intel/Linux the server market is lost to them."
Did you read the article? They have x86/Linux blades announced today. Can you pull your head out of your rectal cavity long enough to read the posted stories BEFORE you hand out your elegant two line quip stating the emminent demise of a billion dollar a year company?
Besides,isn't your two liner a lot like the hype about NT circa early 90's? Unix was dead back then. Look, I love Linux on my machines at home. I still have problems with it on my laptop, but that'll get fixed soon. It's great. It's free. Just remember, you don't always bring cost into the equation. My choice of surgeons has little to do with how much they charge. It's how well they can do the job.
I believe the intent was to supply HDTV signal over say component video cabling to HD-ready sets who do not have firewire and/or dvi connectors. I waited until the mitsu came with firewire, then I bought it. I don't really need DVI right now. However, it looks as if I may require an upgrade to get the dvi interface so I can hook up a DishNetwork box in the future because that would be considered a set-top box. Should Dish include component-out I would still be able to use the "analog connections" to get the 1080i feeds.
This is kind of a rambling bunch of nonsense, but you know, I don't feel like writing anything coherent today anyways.
Yeah, I was unable to log in or view the poll results for a while. Maybe it's some strange static page they put up during patching or updating. Anyone know for sure?
I find the idea of a massive computer lurking rather funny. Of course, it could be the 4 Guinesses I just polished off. Oh well, time for bed. I hope I don't have dreams of ENIAC or some other thing now!
Off the top of my head... yes. If you are just testing a cluster app that supports 2 nodes, then SCSI is fine. Change the id of one of the controllers and you'll mange without much problem. If you want to scale beyond that, your choices are fibre channel, firewire or a "SCSI over IP" implementation.
Of those, "SCSI over IP" is very new and requires an expensive box that supports it (not to mention gigabit ethernet cards and switch). Fibre channel is pretty standard for large installs, but it's very costly abd SANs can be a real pain to setup. (I've done quite a few and would prefer to run screaming out of a room than do another with multiple vendors involved). Firwire is very easy to setup as long as you remember its limitations and very inexpensive. Consider that a 6 port firewire hub costs $99 at most (belkin.com) and firewire cards are at frys for $20. Add a few cables and a firewire drive and you're good to go.
I think the big point here is that you shouldn't design a large database for production on the current firewire, but you could economically setup dozens of these for testing and development. It may only be for their own cost savings. Can you imagine how much it costs Oracle to run dozens of test clusters on Sun or HP boxes? or even just the cost of fibre channel boxes and host adapters to hook up to cheap linux clusters?
Larry may have just saved himself a lot of $$$.
Just my opinion, I know nothing.
I find things to be the exact opposite. For low end configs, RAID 5 is best usually because of cost considerations. At the high end, RAID 1 or 0+1 is found most often because of the performance, redundancy of controllers/paths and tolerance of multiple failures. Your experience may vary though as this whitepaper explains.
I am so very glad that my Representative and Senators were not on the list. I am surprised to see that Fritz (Hollings) is not at the top of the list. I guess it doesn't count that he just proposes more crap than everybody else, eh?
I call bullshit! The Republicans did the same thing to Clinton for six years. This is simply what happens when the White House and Senate are held by different parties. You can't expect Dems to approve the conservative right to life'rs that Bush sends up there. Toward the end of his term, he will send up a load of more centrist appointees (with hidden right-wing gems mixed in) to try to get some seats filled prior to a dem taking over. It happened with Clinton and Bush the First, it'll happen again. Don't sweat it too much.
I just really want a serial port on there so I could use it for a very sweet console when I'm onsite. Does anyone know of a solution that would work with this? Maybe usb to serial? My present Fujitsu is great, but really overkill for most things I need to use it for. A little pad like that would be much more convenient.
I would fix it for him anyways and not report the mod in the case notes. As long as it doesn't tie into the power backplane (and he accepts random ecc errors) I'd fix any obviously defective parts. Tracking down software glitches could prove a little dicey though. I really hope this machine is just for benchmarking or something 'cause I'd be scared sh**less to have this as a production Oracle box!
I know, I thought I was pretty low too! Remember when you could just put your name in for replies? You didn't need to register for quite a while. I just registered mine to save time on the typing my name in. There were a lot of great posters back then. I remember AlphaRisc, MEEPT and even Taco used to get involved in discussions. If I'd only known what a pissing contest you could have with your ID number, I would have registered early and often!!
Five years later and thank God I'm still not a manager!
Cheers,
Just kidding. I love the ego of Larry Ellison. I heard he quit the board of Apple because he doesn't have the time to dedicate to it. Yet, he's pouring money into his bid for the America's Cup. It must be great to be that rich.
This sounds very cool, but I would really like more info than this. Plus, it isn't going to be released until next year. Within that time frame there will be the usual delays and then final release to a couple customers. Don't get me wrong, I think this is cool. Especially the linux part. This could go a long way to helping Linux scale better on massive machines.
The second thought is: can it be partitioned? This is a rather big machine and goes against the trend I have witnessed to use many smaller machines to accomplish your goal. I'll have to ask some of the guys at Oracle if they've looked at Linux installs of this size, but as far as I know they only make x86 ports right now. So, I wonder what linux apps would someone run on a system this big? (I know. Insert obligatory Quake, Beowolf and porn server reference here.)
Disclaimer: I work for an SGI competitor. But I have personally installed Linux on every piece of harware I can get my hands on. Just to play usually, but still. They just pay my mortgage.
At the risk of appearing uninformed (in this case I am), will MLP compressed LPCM require a new decoder in A/V receivers or will the DVD-Audio players have to convert to a known format? I only ask because I was just getting comfortable/bored with my present receiver. I haven't bothered to keep up with these formats. I spent the last 2 years boning-up on HDTV issues and am enjoying the 55 inch 1080i goodness as I type. (PS. DiscoveryHD rocks!) Any concise links would be good as well.
You time is appreciated,