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Casemodding Enterprise Hardware

Anonymous Coward writes "Think your tower case with led fans, a cold cathode and a window is cool? See what this guy did to two Sun Enterprise 15Ks -- a casemod on $1.3 million dollars of hardware! Will mainframes start shipping with light and window options now?"

293 comments

  1. I see he followed the ricers lead by Adam+Rightmann · · Score: 4, Funny

    adding fancy neon tubes to anything makes it faster.

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    1. Re:I see he followed the ricers lead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Please stop using the phrase ricer. It is derogatory towards Asian-Americans, and I find it very offensive. Thank you.

    2. Re:I see he followed the ricers lead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      agreed. I can't believe the parent was modded up and this complaint was modded down.

    3. Re:I see he followed the ricers lead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please stop being so hurt by common language. It really makes you look like a whiner and pisses people off more than you are already. The net effect is negative, not positive.

      Next thing you know Eskimos are going to complain because they really want to be called Inuit and just can't handle our name for them. And if you want to call me a Moose Fucker (I'm Canadian) I really don't give a shit because I'm grown up and can handle it.

      Yeesh. You'd-a-thunk he'd had called all black people "Niggers".

    4. Re:I see he followed the ricers lead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, *I* eat rice and I'm caucasian. How dare you try to tell me that rice is only for asians.
      Take your racist attitudes elsewhere.

    5. Re:I see he followed the ricers lead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously you are some asian student with a shitty car covered in stickers and useless body kit. You are bitter because you have realized that you could have bought a real car for the price of your Civic + mods. Get over it.

    6. Re:I see he followed the ricers lead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeesh. You'd-a-thunk he'd had called all black people "Niggers".

      Never poke fun at a nigger. Or a spic, or a kike, or a chink.

      So how will that be modded? +1 by python fans, and -1 by people who have ass cheeks so tight that their faces are puckered?

    7. Re:I see he followed the ricers lead by LighthouseJ · · Score: 0

      If you had stopped to think for a millisecond, you would have realized the term rice or ricers was referring to a rice boy, boys that buy Honda Civics and other Japanese cars and race them. It's not about the people, it's about the car manufacturers.

      Someone else pointed to www.riceboypage.com and Bryan, the website owner is an asian-american and he calls them rice boys because of the fact I stated above. Take your half-assed whiny PC complaints to the Conservative Coalition and stop posting.

    8. Re:I see he followed the ricers lead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's been gone for a couple weeks now.... at first there was some quote, reportedly from a guy at AMD, on thier front page, and after N seconds, it forwarded you to K5. Now, I think they took the quote down, and it just forwards you to K5.

    9. Re:I see he followed the ricers lead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      do you drive domestics? Personally, i sup up german cars cuz i hate domestics, and while some rice is nice, anything less than an rsx is jsut wrong

    10. Re:I see he followed the ricers lead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Please stop being so hurt by common language.

      It is not "common language", it is some white people's language. The fact that a lot of people use the word, doesn't mean that it's ok. Rather it makes things worse, not for the person who sais "ricer", but for the person being hurt.

      And if you want to call me a Moose Fucker (I'm Canadian) I really don't give a shit

      This may be because nobody will stare at you on the street because you are a Canadian (i guess you don't even know what staring means) and because nobody regards "Moose Fucker" as common language.

      You may decide for yourself, that you don't mind other's call you a "Moose Fucker", but it's still not polite to do so. It seems like you don't care about other people, so you don't care what they call you and you don't care if you hurt them. But others have a right to care.

      Do you think it's just a funny word and does not show any disrespect? Well, maybe. But if somebody sais that he/she does not want to be called a "ricer", it is a matter of respect to apologize and discontinue.

  2. hmmm by mrpuffypants · · Score: 5, Funny

    now i have this urge to mod out the old UNIVAC that I have out back in the garage

    1. Re:hmmm by Jerf · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Dude! That machine looks like it could do 2 gigahertz, easy!"

      "No no... kilohertz..."

      "Whoa..."

      (source, since I don't know much about Univacs. 1905 instructions per second...)

  3. Slashdotted? by mikeplokta · · Score: 4, Funny

    Geez, I wouldn't have thought an E15k could get slashdotted so quickly.

    1. Re:Slashdotted? by Gekko · · Score: 3, Informative

      rm-r.net is a small isp. I doubt a small ISP is using 2Sunfire 15k's and a E10k. Most likely it is the isp of whoever did the case mods, at a different company. Only time will tell.

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    2. Re:Slashdotted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you, Captain Obvious.

    3. Re:Slashdotted? by Gekko · · Score: 2

      I just noticed the sticker thingy, edic, easter dental insurance company. Definaltly would be doing the large type of DB work on Oracle to warrant a few Sun Fire 15K's.

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    4. Re:Slashdotted? by seek31337 · · Score: 1

      It's Linux that cannot handle the load.

      The site www.rm-r.net is running Apache/1.3.23 (Unix) Debian GNU/Linux PHP/4.1.2 mod_gzip/1.3.19.1a on Linux

      netcraft.com can make you look like less of an idiot in public :P

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    5. Re:Slashdotted? by zeroday-bri · · Score: 3, Informative

      it's the fact that apache was running with a maxthread count of 150.. being the site's owner makes you look like a huge idiot in public when you get /.ed.. ;)

      for those of you playing at home: it's not EDIC - you're reading ADIC, the maker of the tape library to the left of the 15k's..

      at any rate, i've upped the thread count over and over, it keeps pegging - i think the limit now is my upstream bandwidth since the load on the machine is negligable.. sorry folks!

  4. already slashdotted....but by Em+Emalb · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Damn. I wasn't able to see the page or the pix, but I assume dude voided his warranty on [Dr. Evil]1.3millllion dollars[/Dr. Evil] worth of equipment.

    Yeah, might be cool, but I don't think smart.

    I didn't get to see the page, so flame away if this is dudes personal equipment. Otherwise, Mr. CFO/CIO is gonna be PISSED.

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    1. Re:already slashdotted....but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Go check out a mirror http://mosascii.com/sd/casemod/casemod.htm
      All he did was add lights to the outsides of the cases. If that voids his warranty on his 1.3 million dollar arrays then I for one will never be buying SUN.

    2. Re:already slashdotted....but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I for one seriously doubt you'll ever be in the position of purchasing ~anything~ of that magnitude.

      Go back to answering the phone at your $8/hr helpdesk job.

    3. Re:already slashdotted....but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow an Anonymous Coward insulting another. Isn't that kind of like insulting yourself.

    4. Re:already slashdotted....but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No

    5. Re:already slashdotted....but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get a room, boys.

    6. Re:already slashdotted....but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can I bring the painting with me?

    7. Re:already slashdotted....but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, but bring Shawn Fanning. Yum.

  5. Well, my minds made up... by zlowry · · Score: 2, Funny

    I won't be investing 1.3mil in Sun 15ks if they can't survive Slashdot! For that kind of money, I expect it to survive!

    1. Re:Well, my minds made up... by zlowry · · Score: 1

      I know, I know. It was just a sad attempt at humor, and not only was I beaten to the punch, but it failed horribly.

  6. /. effect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    The legal way to DDoS!

  7. /.'ed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Google is your friend

  8. Umm nice I guess by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    Two big cases stuffed with neons.
    Very cool, if you have a christmas light fetish or something, otherwise just boring and stupid.

    1. Re:Umm nice I guess by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How the FUCK is the parent post OFF-TOPIC? Damn moron moderators. If you don't agree with the poster, then post a comment saying so.

  9. man by GoatPigSheep · · Score: 0, Redundant

    you'd think for a guy who can afford 1.3 million dollar computers he could afford to host his site on a server that could survive a slashdotting!

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  10. Sun is lame... by Max+von+H. · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I mean, for $1.3 Million Sun could at least offer some cosmetic options. Not that it's the kind of stuff people keep in their living room (although...), but if I'd shell out that kind of money for a badass server, I'd want it to look awesome!

    My personal taste would go towards a single colour for the whole array, all red or all blue.

    Cheers,
    max

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    1. Re:Sun is lame... by zlowry · · Score: 0

      My personal opinion is that it it looks great just being what it is... Big, fast, did I mention big?

      Most people won't understand what it really is, or why I think it's cool, but it sure is impressive.

    2. Re:Sun is lame... by swordgeek · · Score: 4, Funny

      There's a reason you won't be deciding on major equipment purchases any time soon.

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    3. Re:Sun is lame... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This could be seen two ways:
      1) Why make the big systems look fancy if they're going to live in a data center where few people (beside the admins) will ever see them?
      2) Make em look good because only geeks will see them.

      As to your comment of blue or red hardware: At one point IBM sold a special model of the AS/400 (now iSeries eServer) preloaded and configured with Lotus Domino. The box was bright yellow, Lotus' color. Don't know if they still sell it, but it sounds like such a contrast with the old beige and new black color of IBM hardware.

    4. Re:Sun is lame... by optikSmoke · · Score: 1
      My personal taste would go towards a single colour for the whole array, all red or all blue.

      There's two :)

    5. Re:Sun is lame... by BlueFashoo · · Score: 1

      How about all beige?

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    6. Re:Sun is lame... by stevarooski · · Score: 2

      What if this guy works for Sun? I didn't see any indication of his employer on the mirror I looked at. With the kind of money being tossed around here and the support costs if something gets broken, this could explain a lot!

      So, perhaps someone at Sun thinks like you do. :)

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    7. Re:Sun is lame... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At my office, we're always taking our important customers on tours, and the NOC is the thing that always impresses. We have a big window looking in on all the racks of stuff. We made sure to put everything with blinky lights up front.. So, not only geeks see the gear in the noc..

    8. Re:Sun is lame... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And then god said "Let there be SGI.", and all was cool.

    9. Re:Sun is lame... by haggar · · Score: 2

      Have you seen the new Serengeti-class Sun servers? Not as flashy as these, but very sexy nonetheless.

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    10. Re:Sun is lame... by Howie · · Score: 2

      I'm sure I remember reading once that when Cray were still selling the Cray-1 (early-mid-80's?), you could have that in any colour you wanted. It was your $9m after all.

      While sitting at my desk looking into our comms room I've often thought there'd be a market for blinkenlights cards for chassis-based network kit like Cisco 7500, Nortel CVX 1800, PM4's and so on.

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    11. Re:Sun is lame... by VivisectRob · · Score: 1

      The Sun purple might be nice too

    12. Re:Sun is lame... by ameoba · · Score: 2

      Maybe when the VC money was flowing into all the internet startups (AKA the .com boom), this would've been a good idea; all the flashy lights and custom-looking computer hardware would've really impressed clueless investors. These days, however, it's kinda silly and pointless.

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    13. Re:Sun is lame... by Sverige · · Score: 1

      They make some of the best looking hardware out of anyone :). But then again do we buy hardware because of looks?

    14. Re:Sun is lame... by penguin_punk · · Score: 1

      But then again do we buy hardware because of looks?

      Yes.

      EOF

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    15. Re:Sun is lame... by sharkey · · Score: 2

      ...a single colour for the whole array, all red or all blue

      Not me. Red, white and blue for me.

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    16. Re:Sun is lame... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but in your land, it is illegal to modify any thing. You are but a consumer, the lowest form of life.

  11. Looking cool again... by thepoolguy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Remember when machine rooms contained computers that were lined with lots of 'blinken lights'? Think Wargames. Think of the Thinking Machines TM-5. Most computers don't have much in the way of lights on them anymore. All the information in conveyed using a network connection, an LCD or a video output.

    Communication gear is a little better. There is usually a light for each link and data. When there is lots of traffic, the data lights blink furiously.

    Marketing generally doesn't have are product requirements for the coolness factor of a given piece of equipment. They may have indicator requirements (red indicators are vary bad in may places). But sometimes some cool code gets through that uses otherwise unused or idle lights. I remember one vendor who programmed their network switch to have a waterfall pattern on the LEDs of their unused ports. A rack of these devices added some color to an otherwise dull machine room or equipment rack.

    -tpg

    1. Re:Looking cool again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      That vendor would be Alteon Web Systems on their AceDirector series. Too bad Nortel bought them, drove the stock into the ground, and then failed to update any of their technology for years...

    2. Re:Looking cool again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "... I've seen Sun monitors on fire off the side of the multimedia lab.
      I've seen NTU lights glitter in the dark near the Mail Gate.
      All these things will be lost in time, like the root partition last week.
      Time to die...".- Peter Gutmann in alt.sysadmin.recovery

      Do you remember this?

    3. Re:Looking cool again... by ErikTheRed · · Score: 4, Insightful

      My friends and I used to refer to this as the HDFL (High-Density Flashing Lights) functionality of a piece of equipment. Nobody on the top floor really wants to admit this, but when The Big Suits of a company take their Important Customers and Media Sycophants on a tour of their Impressive Facilities, they want the totally-cool, ultra-intimidating-looking server room. Not that they'll overtly give you a bigger budget for this (at least in any cases I've been involved with, pun semi-intended), but sneak in a few extra grand to give them a cool-looking server room and watch the love pour in!

      Oh yeah, and this is yet another reason for the embarrasing IT slobs out there to neatly bundle their fucking rat's nest of cables... Show a little pride in your work, dammit!

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    4. Re:Looking cool again... by syusuf · · Score: 1

      We once had a manager who complained that there weren't enough blinking lights in the computer room - so we went a bought some Christmas lights and hung them up in the rack. Did the trick!

    5. Re:Looking cool again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      been there, done that ;)

      in our CoLo, we had a couple empty cabinets and a bunch of old telco gear that didn't even turn on anymore. When you pop a couple rows of xmas lights in though, damn it looks cool.

    6. Re:Looking cool again... by jhoffoss · · Score: 3, Informative

      Duh, we've all known that "The Machine That Goes PING!" is the most important machine to have around in case your suits pop in.

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    7. Re:Looking cool again... by swankypimp · · Score: 2

      Every IT budget should include an extra $300 per annum for superfluous LEDs and cans of black and metallic silver spray paint. Also, enormous Linux penguin/BSD devil stickers, whichever is more "buzzword-y" at the time.

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    8. Re:Looking cool again... by Saturn49 · · Score: 1

      We refer to this as the BLPD ratio. Blinking Lights Per Dollar. There have been some switches and hubs out there with a very good BLPD.

    9. Re:Looking cool again... by ErikTheRed · · Score: 1

      Dude, love the sig... I was there for Rickey's 3000th base hit....

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    10. Re:Looking cool again... by ces · · Score: 2

      The HP procurve 4000 and 4100 switches have an impressive BLPD ratio, I only wish we'd stuck the coms rack where it is more visible. The suits always seem more impressed with the floor wiring (lots of wires and blinkenlights) closets than with the server room.

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    11. Re:Looking cool again... by Pike65 · · Score: 1

      Our Network Development guys spent £16k on a 1U flip-top screen, keyboard and KVM. Us engineers dream of funding like that and told them so.

      Mind you, when you go to do the backups there's something immensely cool about pushing the front of the thing and having it slide out of the rack and unfold. Yum.

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    12. Re:Looking cool again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was a CM-5, you clod.

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  13. The page loaded fine for me ... by quantumparadox · · Score: 0, Redundant

    If you wait long enough the server is still running, its just out of bandwidth.

    Basically the guy just put purple lights in one and green in the other. From the looks of the room its definitely a business machine.

    He's also modifying a 10K with windows, no pics of the finished product yet.

    A direct link to the small version of the finished product is here ~50k

    1. Re:The page loaded fine for me ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From the looks of the room its definitely a business machine.

      Business, eh? What an unusual way to use E15ks and E10ks, I thought they were just a hobbyist's toy, like an Apple ][ :-)

  14. Cool by SparkyTWP · · Score: 2, Funny

    He can watch his machines get slashdotted from the inside now.

  15. He got an extra light, thanks to /. by therealmoose · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now he's got a curious, glowing white light where his CPU was. /.ed to hell and back a few times, it seems.

    1. Re:He got an extra light, thanks to /. by hitzroth · · Score: 2

      This is a 15K. Which CPU?

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    2. Re:He got an extra light, thanks to /. by darc · · Score: 1

      This is slashdot. All of them.

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  16. Somewhat off topic but.. by fliptout · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is anyone with windowed cases having problems with electromagnetic interference?

    Say you have your CRT right by your window modded case- do you have distorted images on the CRT?

    It just seems to me that i would want my system well shielded :P

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    1. Re:Somewhat off topic but.. by Kaz+Riprock · · Score: 2
      From those that I've seen, most people with windows in their towers don't go and put a big CRT next to the window.

      Not because of the EMI, but because they cut a hole in the side of their box to see inside, not hide it behind a monitor. :/

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    2. Re:Somewhat off topic but.. by adolf · · Score: 5, Informative

      CRT monitors are affected more by low-frequency EMI than the RFI computers emit.

      A simple test: Take the lid off of your case, and place it beside the monitor. Nothing strange happens.

      Next, place an AC-operated fan, transformer-based soldering iron, or similar magnetic device next to the monitor, and watchen das blinkenrainbow.

      That said, flat peices of steel (such as that which comprises your case) do very little to counteract low-frequency magnetism, while aluminum does absolutely nothing. Common steel can have some low-freuquency shielding effect if it's curved just so, but that's usually impractical. (there's other stuff, such as Mu-Metal, which is formulated with the specific goal of blocking EMI, and does work quite well. But it's expensive, and hard to find.)

      I have to be careful where I put my Best FerrUPS because the large ferroresonant transformer in it will cause monitors to shake from several feet away.

      Problems with computer-generated RFI generally show up with radio and television. I can't listen to an AM radio anywhere near my apartment with the PCs on, and there's a few FM stations that I can only recieve outside or in the back bedroom, away from the machines.

      My neighbors must hate me for it, as I'm sure it's not much better anywhere in the building. But the 300-pound, heavy-footed woman upstairs has four kids who wake up at 5:30 AM daily, and the people directly beside me have a bad habit of listening to one-note bass lines with their lousy, one-note subwoofer, directly on the other side of the wall behind my desk.

      So, I guess I care a lot less about RFI than I do about proper cooling. Thus, the top of the case is completely absent, allowing all kinds of natural, quiet convection cooling to take place.

    3. Re:Somewhat off topic but.. by SaturnTim · · Score: 1
      So, I guess I care a lot less about RFI than I do about proper cooling. Thus, the top of the case is completely absent, allowing all kinds of natural, quiet convection cooling to take place.

      Uhhhh, most people get better cooling with the case ON their computer. A well designed case (and many not-so-well-designed) will have ducts going to/from the hot spots. The case is usually part of the ducting system. Remove the case, and you HURT the airflow, thus hurting your ability to cool. So removing the case isn't a recommended MOD.

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    4. Re:Somewhat off topic but.. by Reece400 · · Score: 1

      My computer, with an AMD 1700+, drops from about 43 celcius, to about 36 celcius when i take the case off,,, (about 50 c down to 43 c at 100% usage)

      Reece,

    5. Re:Somewhat off topic but.. by FredGray · · Score: 2
      (there's other stuff, such as Mu-Metal, which is formulated with the specific goal of blocking EMI, and does work quite well. But it's expensive, and hard to find.)

      Not so hard to find...we get ours from The Magnetic Shield Corporation.

    6. Re:Somewhat off topic but.. by adolf · · Score: 2

      Uhhhh, some people get better cooling with the case OFF their computer. A lot of older cases (and many not-so-old designs) do not have ducts going to/from the hot spots. The case is seldom part of the nonexistant ducting system. Remove the case, and you HELP ambient air exchange, thus helping your ability to cool. So removing the case is a recommended MOD.

      This isn't a shiney new aluminum Lian-Li, Coolermaster, or stealthly-quiet, duct-filled Dell. There's no Radeon here, no PC2700DDR, no dual-proc Athlon MP. It's an 8-year-old Infotel full-tower AT, with a 350MHz K6-2. With the top off, its trio of 7200RPM IBM Ultrastars, fan-cooled Plextor burner, and CPU all run cooler. The Voodoo3 overclocks better. The DDS-2 streamer acts healthier.

      While I understand that you were just trying to be helpful, I'd like to assure you that your concern is unwarranted.

      I'd also like to ask if you've got anything constructive to add to the topic at hand, which has everything to do with radiation and casemods, and nothing to do with cooling.

    7. Re:Somewhat off topic but.. by blincoln · · Score: 1

      I have an all-lucite case parked a foot from my CRT and experience no interference on the display or instability in the PC.

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    8. Re:Somewhat off topic but.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then you have a screwed up case, or inadequate cooling.

    9. Re:Somewhat off topic but.. by Reece400 · · Score: 1

      i'd have to say both, as my screwed up case doesn't allow for adequite cooling,, but the point is, how many cases, especially the cheaper ones that most people have,, really do have addiquite cooling??

      Reece,

  17. Not a big mod... by Junta · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Putting lights outside the case, behind the door is not really a case mod. Don't blame him, I sure as hell wouldn't try to really do that kind of stuff to 1.3 million dollars of equipment, and his mod looks fine.

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    1. Re:Not a big mod... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're just mad that you don't have one. Pussy.

    2. Re:Not a big mod... by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 5, Funny

      True, it's not like he took a hacksaw to the case and put a few windows in *shudders* Still, pretty ballsy... imagine how you might have gone about it
      - You go up to your boss and ask: "Can I stick some of these lights in those new servers?". Boss replies by smacking your head with a 2x4.
      - You stick the lights in and your boss catches you doing it. "What the #*%^$ are you doing to these!?!?". Again, the 2x4 is utilised
      - The boss walks in after you finished and sees a green glow coming from a previously dark cabinet, and calls Sun support in a panic. For making him look the fool, he'll take his 2x4 and make use of it in creative ways that you will not enjoy.

      Plenty of scope here for trouble. And if you have a clueless boss, and God forbid something goes wrong with the machines, he and Sun both will blame your blinkenlights...

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    3. Re:Not a big mod... by zeroday-bri · · Score: 1

      the term 'casemod' was tongue-in-cheek - i don't consider myself a 'case modder' by any stretch of the imagination.. we're just making things with light!

    4. Re:Not a big mod... by mikeleemm · · Score: 1

      I believe the packing material of a Sun E15k does include a 2x4. :)

    5. Re:Not a big mod... by Hast · · Score: 1

      You know, when I saw the mod my first reaction was "Voyager plasma core". Something which looks like that /really/ needs to be pulsating or having a running lights feature. (Preferably synched to the load on the server.)

      Surely you guys must have some old computer laying about which can be used to control the lights. I guess the WWW server wouldn't last much longer if it had to stream video though.

    6. Re:Not a big mod... by Poingggg · · Score: 1

      Ooooohh....and of course it should have this very low pulsating humming sound synced ('s that how you spell this?) to the lights. Thàt would be really impressive!

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    7. Re:Not a big mod... by eMBee · · Score: 2

      but sun has a computer emiting a green glow:

      the cobalt qube.

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  18. What, no "Type R" sticker? by phillymjs · · Score: 5, Funny

    This guy gets the Too Much Time On His Hands Award of the Week. What's his encore gonna be, a racing stripe on all the Cat-5 cable in the place?

    ~Philly

    1. Re:What, no "Type R" sticker? by hazyshadeofwinter · · Score: 2, Funny

      If he was really smart, he woulda bought the yellow cat5 so it'd already go faster.

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    2. Re:What, no "Type R" sticker? by timeOday · · Score: 5, Funny

      Have you ever read this?

    3. Re:What, no "Type R" sticker? by Nintendork · · Score: 2

      OMG, that's the funniest thing I've ever seen. Even better than riceboypage.

    4. Re:What, no "Type R" sticker? by zeroday-bri · · Score: 1

      truth be told the whole thing took me about 2 hours.. believe it or not..

  19. What Foxwoods did... by Wakko+Warner · · Score: 2

    Foxwoods (the casino in CT) runs a lot of P-series IBM gear in their server rooms. Apparently they were upset with the fact that IBM's RS/6000 gear comes in black, IBM being "Big Blue", and all. So, they had every IBM rack sent down to Texas so they could be spraypainted blue, at Foxwoods' cost. Not much of a mod, but a hell of a lot of money (which I'm sure they probably recouped in about 15 minutes from the slot machines alone...)

    - A.P.

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  20. Boring router switchy things by adjuster · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The "boring router switchy things" pic appears to show two (2) Cisco Catalyst 6513 chassis with dual-redundant supervisor modules. Yeesh... Depending on the options, there's another $200K in gear right there.

    How can this company be doing well enough to afford this gear, yet be dumb enough to let their people "case mod" the E15K's?

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    1. Re:Boring router switchy things by Chicane-UK · · Score: 2

      I thought the exact same thing.. we have a Catalyst 6509 and I know after we loaded that thing up with a bunch of blades, it had eaten up a fair chunk of the years IT budget. As you say, must be a rich business!

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    2. Re:Boring router switchy things by Helter · · Score: 1

      As was pointed out, glueing cold cathode tubes to the front door really isn't "case modding".

    3. Re:Boring router switchy things by w1r3sp33d · · Score: 1

      I don't see a picture of the Cat's after being tricked out, so how about it? There is plenty of room for some lights, lasers, an internal smoke machines, some water pumps for cooling the Sup's, hell maybe even one of those flippy tongue cdroms from the gateway commercial! (or am I confusing this with the "upgrade" UUnet was attempting on their Junipers last week.....)

    4. Re:Boring router switchy things by MaxVlast · · Score: 2

      Yes, but it's still _glueing_cold_cathode_tubes_to_the_front_door.

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    5. Re:Boring router switchy things by Deadstick · · Score: 2, Funny

      >How can this company be doing well enough to afford this gear, yet be dumb enough to let their people "case mod" the E15K's?

      Easy: It's gonna look GREAT on the cover of the annual report.

      rj

    6. Re:Boring router switchy things by afidel · · Score: 2

      I have 20 6509's in my building alone, almost all have redundant supervisor modules with at least on gig module per. They really arent THAT expensive.

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  21. Wow. by mindstrm · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not really a case mod, not really warranty voiding.
    He just mounted some neon lights inside the case to add some color.

  22. wow by crumbz · · Score: 2

    now i gotta find a new hobby ;(

  23. Where is order book by sudo · · Score: 3, Funny

    Damn fine idea, It will look good on ours, especially since they have been dimming the lights in the computer room at night.

    Now to convince the boss....

    1. Re:Where is order book by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It does look better than before, but I would of done both with the blue lights.

    2. Re:Where is order book by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do you think anyone gives a shit about what you would have done when you don't even know the meaning of elementary English words like "of" and "have"?

  24. Mmm, coke by pommaq · · Score: 5, Funny

    Good job, now they look like $1.3m soda machines. He might impress me if he modded them to actually dispense soft drinks on demand!

    1. Re:Mmm, coke by keiferb · · Score: 1

      ...with bonus points awarded for being able to do so in response to a finger request.

    2. Re:Mmm, coke by Bishop923 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I thought that was what the TAB key was for?

      *rimshot*

    3. Re:Mmm, coke by G-funk · · Score: 2

      No time for that now, the computer's starting!

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  25. Wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is fucking spectacular. I'd like to know where that guy works that he has access to such awesome machines, and what he does... because, like, he's obviously not using them. Interior decorator for the NSA?

  26. (Meta) Google cache problem by yerricde · · Score: 1

    Google doesn't cache stylesheets but instead points stylesheet requests to the regular server. I have to wait for the connection to the slashdotted server to time out before a typical web browser (IE or Mozilla) will even draw the page.

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  27. BESM-6... by WetCat · · Score: 3, Informative

    It has had panels, full of neon lamps. You can
    write some words using that lamps by writing an auxillary programs. It had thousands of lamps.
    You may imagine you are at a starship command deck!
    Image is here (old story, b/w photo... :(

    1. Re:BESM-6... by Saint+Aardvark · · Score: 3, Funny
      Shit, my mistake -- I meant to mod you "Informative" and it came out "Overrated". Sorry about that; hopefully posting here will undo that.

    2. Re:BESM-6... by falzer · · Score: 1

      Ah, yes, the Computron 5000. You just gave me an idea. I could create some sort of light emitting display that accepts data from a computer via a cable. Computer users could write software to display text or images using this display. Sometimes a fresh new look at retro gear from a different angle can result in some pretty cool new applications of the same tech!

    3. Re:BESM-6... by jericho4.0 · · Score: 1

      I recently had my first moderator points, and did the same thing you did (scrollwheel for me). I also, in a fit of guilt, went back and posted to erase the mistake. The irony of this story is that you got modded up to '4 funny', thereby showing the true value of a moderater point :-)

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    4. Re:BESM-6... by addaon · · Score: 1

      And even more ironic... since then, someone went back and marked him 'overrated.'

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  28. With enough lights to rival Times Square... by brianvan · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these!

    1. Re:With enough lights to rival Times Square... by Stonent1 · · Score: 1

      Don't you know anything? Beowulf cluster jokes only work when they are OT!

    2. Re:With enough lights to rival Times Square... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In an odd coincidence, the joke didn't work AND the post was modded offtopic.

      Shoulda put a pro-Microsoft comment in! Then it would have been modded way up! :-P

    3. Re:With enough lights to rival Times Square... by Stonent1 · · Score: 1

      Yes, but really it was partially ON topic but there is no "+0 On topic, but not Funny"

  29. Not at all by MajikMan · · Score: 1

    Never had the slightest problem at all, nor do I know anyone who has. Everything that really generates enough to interfere is already shielded quite well. I had my case (with large window) sitting right next to the monitor for several months with no problem (occasionally using cell/cordless phones).

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  30. Cache & CSS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So don't turn that stupid stuff on :)

    If you know you're gonna be looking at something like that, turn your stylesheets off.

    -- Ender, Duke_of_URL

  31. Borg Server by skinfitz · · Score: 1

    The green one looks like it's been assimilated - you have to admit The Borg® had impeccable taste for equipment design.

    Well done that man!

  32. Re:Mirror by psychalgia · · Score: 1

    nj bro, thanks much

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  33. Huh? by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 2, Offtopic

    I didn't see anything about them being Windows machines... they're ultrasparcs for crying out loud.

    Though I do agree with you on the last point. They make some very fine mice and keyboards.

  34. Anonymous Coward? Why the e-mail address? by fmaxwell · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If the submitter is an anonymous coward, how come there is a link to an e-mail address of jthomas@poweronemedia.com?

    1. Re:Anonymous Coward? Why the e-mail address? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Damn, you finally caught me. For years, Slashdotters have wondered who Anonymous Coward is. I always covered my tracks and made sure that I could never be traced. But on this fateful day in October 2002, I am finally revealed. :(

    2. Re:Anonymous Coward? Why the e-mail address? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dammit! Don't listen to him. I'm the real Anonymous Coward.

    3. Re:Anonymous Coward? Why the e-mail address? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Hi. I posted the original thread. As I posted elsewhere, I just haven't taken the time to create an account yet. Today I had to move my company's datacenter from NYC to NJ, so I've been pressed for time, as you can imagine.

      The email address is correct. Email me if you care to.

      Yours,

      Joshua Thomas
      Network Operations Engineer
      PowerOne Media
      Troy, NY

    4. Re:Anonymous Coward? Why the e-mail address? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Will the real anonymous coward please stand up?

    5. Re:Anonymous Coward? Why the e-mail address? by dasmegabyte · · Score: 2

      Oh no! Anonymous Coward has been revealed as our mild manner Network Ops guy!

      Please don't do this to the SNAP servers!

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  35. Re:The Slashdot Effect: A new form of terrorism. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Our food actually has taste, and is worth eating

    You're right. I'll have a McQuarterPound LardBurger please, with extra offal.

  36. This WILL screw up the warranty! by swordgeek · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...or at least the service contract I'm assuming they bought.

    I do service contract support for Sun gear, and on the high end stuff they (sun) would definitly have the option of walking away from one of these things on a service call. Personally, I know I'd be tempted to do so.

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    1. Re: This WILL screw up the warranty! by elmegil · · Score: 1, Troll
      I do service contract support for Sun gear, and on the high end stuff they (sun) would definitly have the option of walking away from one of these things on a service call. Personally, I know I'd be tempted to do so.

      Did you even visit the link? He glued some lights inside the doors of the rack. Whoopty. Not gonna affect serviceability one iota.

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    2. Re: This WILL screw up the warranty! by Large+Green+Mallard · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And keep in mind that companies that by several 1.3 million computers are more than willing to shuck out a few more thousand on lawyers to ensure than that their service contract is honoured ;)

    3. Re: This WILL screw up the warranty! by swordgeek · · Score: 2

      I visited the link. I saw what he did. I agree that it ain't much, and isn't really a case mod.

      I also said that it WILL violate the service contract, and I say it again.

      Adding anything to a case can affect computers in small ways. Heat production, EM interference, and ventilation blocking. These aren't going to product any significat heat, but are they blocking the airflow ports? Is it on the same power supplies as the 15k?

      Also, if someone does this to their machine, what else have they done? Brought in some used 3rd party memory? Bought a used CPU off of eBay?

      This might not be a problem in and of itself, but it's a good indicator that the computer is NOT one you want to work on, if you can avoid it. Sun feels the same way, and won't let you get away with stuff like this on an Enterprise service contract.

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    4. Re: This WILL screw up the warranty! by rnd() · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I imagine that's why he used velcro to hold the lamps in place. Before the Sun repair techs get there he can remove all traces of the 'case mod' and nobody will be the wiser.

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    5. Re: This WILL screw up the warranty! by RedWizzard · · Score: 2

      If Sun encourage their service contractors to aggrivate companies who have bought several million dollars of Sun gear over something like this then I'm selling my shares today.

    6. Re: This WILL screw up the warranty! by malkavian · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hmm..
      Seems to me the guys that bought this hardware are Sun customers that don't mind shelling out a little cash to buy the necessary hardware.
      Putting cold cathode lights on the outside of a case seems to be to be a very poor excuse to get out of a service contract.
      Now, if they'd left cables dangling all over the floor, or had coffee stains all down the front of the box, I'd think differently.
      However, if this comms room is actually a place where customers are shown round, the non-technical would certainly get a blast from seeing all the cases lit up, and it'd be something they remembered. A bit of a plus over all the 'boring' comms rooms that just hum a little. Something to show the investors on a nice day round.
      If they've spent this much on the boxes, I'm damn sure they spent the money to figure out with sun if putting these on invalidated an agreement.
      I'm also pretty sure the guy in question worked out what effect this would have on the boxes.
      If someone turned up to a site where I'd done pretty much the same thing, and an engineer turned round and refused to touch the machine on that basis, I know that the first thing I'd do is call his boss, and be a little peeved.
      And then I'd take it higher.
      If the company in question said they'd not support it, then I'd have a very serious think about who would offer a sensible support package.
      In my days going round the comms rooms, I've seen far far worse setups, and had them supported.
      If you're going to be so picky as to not do something for such a picky reason (hey, the guys who go for cheap memory and processors from Ebay generally don't turn their boxes into showcase pieces like that. They cram what they can quietly into racks and try and make sure nobody sees 'em), then you're on a sure fire way of losing some business. In this day and age, with competition as fierce as it is, I don't think you can afford to do that.
      Personally, I'd see this as someone taking PRIDE in their machines, and as such, I'd rather take is as being a good indicator of one that I would want to work on (as the guys are VERY likely to know all the ins and outs of the server, and it's day to day quirks).
      I honestly don't know where you get your ideas from, but I think you'd be a firm candidate for a 'jobsworth' award where you'd try and get out of doing anything you absolutely didn't have to, just in case it turned out to be hard work.
      If you feel this is just a big, unconsidered flame, then consider. I've done this kind of job in the past, (and moved upwards and onwards), and met many who have done this job also. Some guys are a pleasure to work with, accomodating in most respects (but cut the line at people just being silly arses with things), and some are just cold and trying to weasel out of everything. These days, I go with the companies that offer good service, and decent engineers that actually make a good showing. I drop like hotcakes those that weasel out.
      Before you talk about invalidating the warranty, especially in a high profile place like /. make damn sure you've got the right end of the stick, otherwise you will most definately start giving people the impression (in some cases, the ones that pony up the cash for the gear) that Sun just have stucks up their arses, and are playing the weasel out of it game.
      Bad bad press indeed. And from the Sun techs I've met in the past (quite a few, and from many levels), they'd think this was kind of interesting, and be quite chuffed that people took the pride in their hardware to do this kind of thing.

      Just my tuppence worth.

      Malk.

    7. Re: This WILL screw up the warranty! by swordgeek · · Score: 2

      Oh, Sun (or whoever) would honour the contract, but they'd also point out that the client violated the contract (rendering it null and void), leaving them with no responsibility.

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    8. Re: This WILL screw up the warranty! by swordgeek · · Score: 2

      Heh. Excellent post.

      OK, a typical service contract (not just from Sun, from ANYONE!) prohibits adding to or modifying the equipment without Sun's approval. This qualifies.

      HOWEVER, probably 30-40% of systems under contract out there are technically in violation. Sun doesn't care. The client doesn't care. The techs don't care. Everyone is happy. Furthermore, let's make the (fairly safe) assumption that this guy has worked with Sun, has a good rapport with the field techs, etc. etc. In that case, he probably phoned up the field techs, said "hey, I'm going to do this. Any problems?" and the field techs said, "Hell no! Can we come and watch you power it up?" No problem--implicit agreement.

      But those clauses _are_ in there, and they're there to avoid problems like eBay happening again. (You cannot buy a Sunfire 15k without a service contract now, because of how eBay messed up their server farm.)

      All I intended was a cautionary point. I'm not saying that he's likely to get any flak at all from Sun, but on paper--by the legal contract--this will violate his service contract.

      That's all.

      As an aside, the Sun guys are generally great to deal with.

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    9. Re: This WILL screw up the warranty! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, if someone does this to their machine, what else have they done? Brought in some used 3rd party memory? Bought a used CPU off of eBay?

      WTF? eBay is just overrun with E10k and E15k spare parts... Get a grip. I don't think you've ever even been near one of these, let alone serviced them. This ain't the sparcstation5 you 've got as a monitor support, you know. Fucktard.

    10. Re: This WILL screw up the warranty! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Retard. Here's a guy that's serviced a couple of Ultra30's and guesses the way he treated those customers must be how Sun treats all t's customers. YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW NICE SUN CAN BE TO PEOPLE THAT BUY AN E15k FROM THEM I can promise you that, unless this crap is hotwired into a power supply, a real Sun E15K engineer would give a shit about it, let alone telling his boss that the few hundred thousand dollar support contract is void.

    11. Re: This WILL screw up the warranty! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      would definitly

      Heh, get the cameras out - a Sun E15K engineer that can't spell. Don't see one of those every day.

    12. Re: This WILL screw up the warranty! by elmegil · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      I work for Sun providing service too. Think hard: the customer did nothing to break the integrity of the rack, or the system itself. What exactly did they do that you allege violates the contract? Not a damn thing that I can see.

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    13. Re: This WILL screw up the warranty! by elmegil · · Score: 2, Informative

      Pay no attention to the fool who thinks this violates a contract, until he points out the specific contract clauses that it violates. For the record, I work for Sun providing support too, and can't think of any reason I'd have a problem with this unless the machines specifically started having real problems (if we could trace the problems to the lights, it'd be "remove the lights or no service", but we'd have to prove the lights were a problem first, and I can't think of how they really would be).

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    14. Re: This WILL screw up the warranty! by elmegil · · Score: 0
      a typical service contract (not just from Sun, from ANYONE!) prohibits adding to or modifying the equipment without Sun's approval. This qualifies.

      Your assertion that it qualifies doesn't make it so. The equipment has not been modified. The rack has not been modified. Nothing done to the rack has any significant effect on airflow or heat characteristics. Unless you can point out some specific picayune phrasing that you think this violates, I'd say you're full of hot air.

      BTW, you might want to talk to company lawyers before spouting on public forums about your opinion of customer's responsibilities for major outages.

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    15. Re: This WILL screw up the warranty! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what

    16. Re: This WILL screw up the warranty! by yawble · · Score: 1

      Bullshit. If i was a Sun tech and i got called out to a site with these mad muvvas, i'd nut in my pants and then fall overmyself talking to the guy.

    17. Re: This WILL screw up the warranty! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But those clauses _are_ in there, and they're there to avoid problems like eBay happening again. (You cannot buy a Sunfire 15k without a service contract now, because of how eBay messed up their server farm.)

      Sounds intriguing. Can you provide some more info on this?

    18. Re: This WILL screw up the warranty! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, considering how well shielded Sun server gear is, I doubt the lights are going to cause problems with the servers.

      Remember these things have to deal with the random EMI/RFI/MFI environment you find in your typical data center. Chillers, fans, UPS units, tape libraries, monitors, servers from a dozen vendors, switches, hubs, routers, phone switches, florecents lights with bad balasts, 50A 480V 3-phase power feeds, etc. all could be in close proximity to the boxes.

      You remind me of some of the idiot Compaq techs I've dealt with. Won't work on boxes with linux or BSD installs unless Compaq did the install, won't work on machines with 3rd party hardware even though our Compaq sales rep told us to buy it, etc.

      The Sun guys on the other hand have been great, they even fixed a 440R that had coffee spilled in it. I'm sure they would be even nicer to someone who bought 2 $1.5 mil machines.

    19. Re: This WILL screw up the warranty! by tinrobot · · Score: 2

      I can see a casemod voiding the warranty on a $600 Dell, where they have zero margin, but this guy's company paid several *million* dollars for two machines.

      If I were Sun, I'd thank him profusely for the cash and call him sir. If it needs service, turn off the darn lights before opening the door. Sheeesh.

    20. Re: This WILL screw up the warranty! by elmegil · · Score: 1

      Hey swordgeek: good to see you have buddies (or your own other account) that can mod down anyone who disagrees with you, or publically calls you on your hot air. I fully expect this one to get modded down too, so sad. Whereas my other replies were serious, not trolls or flamebait as you've seen fit to mod them, this one really is flamebait. You're a fucking moron.

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  37. What, no fishtank? by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 4, Funny

    Gee whiz guys, it's not really a mod until you install a fishtank inside $1.3 million in hardware...

    Now THAT would be impressive...

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  38. Link to sun store (reseller link slashdotted) by Gekko · · Score: 2

    Sunfire 15k's (To the best of my knowledge there is no model called an E15k, E10k yes), list at closer to around 1.5 million. Granted no one in there right mind pays list for sun hardware thats why you have an account repersentive, in the case of Sun Fire 15k's you most likely have a team. Anyway that sun reseller is slashdotted so the sun store link is http://store.sun.com/ go to the high end servers.

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  39. Sun Fire 15K Info by Mooset · · Score: 5, Informative

    I don't know why the link for the Sun Fire 15K info goes to Nationwide Value Computer (whatever that is) instead of the official Sun site. NVC apparently has no bandwidth, but I'm sure Sun has plenty to spare.

    Here's a link to the official site: http://www.sun.com/servers/highend/sunfire15k/

    1. Re:Sun Fire 15K Info by Gekko · · Score: 2

      I had the same idea, see my post, same time, 2 message id's before you =). Anyway I'm assuming it is one of the many sun resellers, sun resselers are huge in the UK and Eurpoe, where they apperently save you a ton of money. It could also be one of the refurbished sellers. I doubt a refurb would have anything that big though, the biggest thing anysystems (my favorite refurb dealer and where I have picked up a ton of Ultra 1 170e's) has is a E6500.

      Side note anysystem.com doesn't seem to have anymore ugly duckling specials on the Ultra 1 170e's. Damn shame really. They do have a 200 though. I'm also glad to see someone else referr to it propely as a Sun Fire 15k.

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  40. what's next? by squarefish · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hydraulics?

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    1. Re:what's next? by Rhinobird · · Score: 2
      what's next? Hydraulics?
      ...To go with the kryptonte ray?

      As an aside, I think the blue lights work best with the Sun color scheme.
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  41. girlfriend reaction by K. · · Score: 3, Funny

    "They look like *vending machines*."

    Yes, she can verbalise astericks.

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    1. Re:girlfriend reaction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Girlfriend??? Yeah, right!

    2. Re:girlfriend reaction by addaon · · Score: 2

      What a coincidence! Mine said "They look like !vending machines!." She's been studying !Kung a bit too long, I guess.

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  42. Tron flashbacks... by MsGeek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The glowing blue in particular had the look of "good guy" territory. Can't wait until they get their MCP team up and running...the red neon will make those units look sufficiently evil. Or should I say 3v17? ;-)

    What's the matter with a little flash anyway? It doesn't hurt the machines, it brightens up an otherwise boring looking NOC...jeez, get a little sense of aesthetics, if not humor!

    Sun should seriously look at this becoming standard equipment on their machines. How much would this add to the cost of their hideously expensive hardware anyway? A little style goes a long way...ask Steve Jobs.

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    1. Re:Tron flashbacks... by Night0wl · · Score: 1

      Just a quick question, What the fuck is Evit?

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    2. Re:Tron flashbacks... by MattBurke · · Score: 1

      NOC?

      Any company putting one of these mothers in a noc is doing something seriously wrong :P

      Server rooms generally look exceptionally impressive to suits anyhow (and often even to t-shirts!). However I do agree that an E10/15k would be a lot easier to pass past accounting departments with the support from the marketing departments that a few cold cathode tubes gains...

      There's not many machines short of Crays that have the sort of universal "wow" factor that E10k's have. Why not spend a tiny bit more to impress? Even if it gains a single sale over a Fujitsu or something, with the price of these things it'd be worth Sun putting the extra couple of dollars in on every unit!

  43. And they should! by ananke · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Good god, when will those companies understand, that they ought to make their equipment look nice? This could bring them more money, indirectly. Let me illustrate

    1) We buy product X from company Y. We put it in our data center. Company Y got their cash, everything is dandy.

    2) Once in awhile, we have to show off our data center to our . Half of the time, the people who are in charge of giving us money are not very technical. They may understand some concepts of this big box has XXX giga/mega/zilion bytes of storage, etc, but in most cases they are like me looking at an airplane engine: ohhh, look it here, it has something cool attached to another neat thing! Ohh, and this little thing is moving! Neato!. Please bear in mind, that I am not making fun of those people, this is just how things work. When somebody doesn't work in your field, they often will focus on things less important than you would. If something moves or blinks, it catches the eye of a viewer. Heck, when we have to give tours around our data center, people spend most time around the robotic tape library, or the cluster of boxes, where there is lots of blinking lights, and it simply looks neat. Our 15k does not compare.

    3) When those folks, who give us money, see how neat our data center looks, how spiffy things are, they are usually impressed. What follows is: hey, they are doing well. we spent our money well. heck, we may even let them keep their budget, or maybe we'll add more.. Yes folks, the better your data center looks, the better chances of keeping the job :)

    4) Because of the fact that product X looked so nice, we were given the budget to buy more product X's. Company Y profits.

    {God, this made sense in my head when i was thinking, dunno if it makes sense now :)].

    Anyway, I know that appearance does not make that big of a difference to a sys admin. But as a sys admin, I'd like if the product X that performs well, would also look nice. It helps me, when the PR department asks me to give a tour of our data center. [or at least assist in answering the questions, I think they learned enough buzz words by now, that they can give the tours themselves :) ]

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    1. Re:And they should! by R2.0 · · Score: 1

      Mony Python, "The Meaning of Life"

      Segment: The Miracle of Birth

      Scene: Woman in labor, surrounded by machines and TV medical drama music, while hospital administrator type give tour.

      "And this is the machine that goes "PING."

      --
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  44. Re:Case Mod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    > Dear Boss,
    > You've been wondering what I've been doing for
    > the last two weeks. Go check out the server room
    > and prepare to be impressed.

    That's beautiful.

    You're fired.

    The Boss

  45. Me too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have one of those too - Ebay anyone?

  46. Children, pay attention! by da+cog · · Score: 2

    An error occured while loading http://www.rm-r.net/~bri/casemod/:

    Timeout on server
    Timed out while waiting to connect to www.rm-r.net


    The moral of this story is: it's not what's on the outside, but what's inside that matters. :-)

    --
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    1. Re:Children, pay attention! by rastachops · · Score: 1
      An error occured while loading http://www.rm-r.net/~bri/casemod/:

      Timeout on server
      Timed out while waiting to connect to www.rm-r.net

      The moral of this story is: it's not what's on the outside, but what's inside that matters. :-)


      On the contrary, at least the lights work, the insides obviously arent!!
  47. Re:Huh? - HUH? by skinfitz · · Score: 1

    No I mean the REAL Borg!

  48. Uhm.... by CrystalFalcon · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yeah, imagine the options!

    "Ok, sir, I hear you're ordering our 2-million-dollar FibreChannel storage server. Would you like that in red, mint green, or silver, sir?"

    1. Re:Uhm.... by Wiener · · Score: 1
      "Ok, sir, I hear you're ordering our 2-million-dollar FibreChannel storage server. Would you like that in red, mint green, or silver, sir?"

      I think mauve has the most RAM

      --courtesy of Scott Adams & Dilbert

    2. Re:Uhm.... by dasmegabyte · · Score: 2

      Not that silly. I bought my car for the color. Three lots had five cars with the exact same loadoat i was looking for, but they were all too uptight and WASPy in color. I found a bright blue one and shelled out more money because of it (also v. low mileage and perfect interior).

      Of course, the big difference here is that people actually see my car. Most companies bury their mainframe where noone will ever find it, like that alone makes it unhackable.

      When I run a Fortune 500 company, we're going to have a huge bulletproof glass floor in the lobby, which will show the datacenter below. The mainframe will be a giant art deco brown and white unit with a large glowing red dome, a la HARDAC. If that doesn't impress the shareholders, I don't know what will.

      --
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    3. Re:Uhm.... by gordyf · · Score: 1

      When I run a Fortune 500 company, we're going to have a huge bulletproof glass floor in the lobby, which will show the datacenter below.

      And you'll have heated floors for free!

    4. Re:Uhm.... by Hast · · Score: 3, Insightful
      When I run a Fortune 500 company, we're going to have a huge bulletproof glass floor in the lobby, which will show the datacenter below.

      And it'll be great for the frustrated technicians down there when female visitors with skirts check in. (I imagine that their female coworkers will learn rather quickly.)
    5. Re:Uhm.... by Old+Uncle+Bill · · Score: 1

      Who cares! If you've ever adminned one of these things you don't care what it looks like. You just care that it cranks through 8 seti blocks an hour. Fun and games. Besides, there are actually a crapload of blinken lights on these babies. Just open any side panel and each system board has to have at least a dozen lights on it.

      --
      Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties are largely ceremonial.
  49. SGI by pantherace · · Score: 1
    SGI and their 'tempature monitoring system' (or something like that)

    SGI supposedly (never have seen it on SGI's site (nor looked) or seen one in person) on some of their higher end machines put basically a lcd on the side that was modified by tempature, or some such. it was said to be for the above, but everyone who looked at it or designed it knew the reason: if it is real expensive and supposed to be high tech, it should look that way.

  50. Re:Huh? - HUH? by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 2

    Oh. AmIbad.

  51. But really.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hi. I am the anonymous coward who posted the story. I'm just too lazy to get an account. The email I listed is correct.

    The server the page are hosted on are not the Sun's, and quite a bit smaller. I could have mirrored it, but I don't have that bandwith either. ;-)

  52. Systime did this already by Dynamoo · · Score: 1
    When I used to work with DEC kit, some of the old Systime engineers (Systime had its butt sued off by DEC for stealing its intellectual property) said that they had an option for some of their kit called a "Christmas Tree".

    Basically, the Christmas Tree just interfaced with the minicomputer and gave it some impressive flashing lights so the budget holders knew where the money had gone. I guess it was just a series of lights wires to the RS232 interfaces. That will have been about 20 years ago!

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  53. This is great to show the administration by bluveinr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    While everyone is thinking this guy is gonna loose his job, I bet he gets a lot more IT $$$ than other sys admins. I can't recall the number of times we spent big buck on cutting edge hardware that makes the organization flow smoother, only to get blank stares from administrators who come buy to see what they just spent all that money on. The more blinken lights on hardware, the more the managers feel like it's doing something. Show one of your managers a network closet with the lights low, and see thier eyes light up at all the fascinating lights. It kinda mesmorizes them. The perfect time to ask for more $$ for your department. Expensive IBM/Sun servers suffer from lack of flair big time.

    1. Re:This is great to show the administration by texaport · · Score: 2, Funny

      It just needs a couple of spinning tape reels, randomly changing directions.

    2. Re:This is great to show the administration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you realize random seeks on a tape reel would be slower than watching mold grow on your computer monitor??

    3. Re:This is great to show the administration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      he never said the tapes were actually doing anything

    4. Re:This is great to show the administration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bravo. The parent to your reply must be the most humour-impaired post I've witnessed all year.

      Keep it up.

  54. Public Datacenters by wakeboard · · Score: 2, Interesting


    A lot of company's I have worked at like to place there data center in a semi-public place. My old building had a large glass window that separated their reception area with from a portion of the data center. Mind you that security was not compromised as all monitors where some one could oversee any pertinent information where not viewable from the reception area. This was a concern that was addressed. This little 'building mod' added a bit of esteem to the office. People who came into the office allways spent at least 10-15 mins looking at the servers becouse the room was just impressive. Like some one mentioned earlier, if a person who is not technically inclined sees a impressive data center it might influence them in some way, and it just looks damn cool.

    You me and every one else on this board would appreciate them at face value, I know the difference between the quality of NETGEAR and CISCO, but most do not. Lights and cosmetics influence a lot of decisions, don't underestimate looks, they do play a big role.

  55. Re:Mirror by hitzroth · · Score: 2

    That last picture just looks... menacing.

    Now, where did I put that winning lottery ticket?

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    --VonNeumann
  56. mirror by jazperbg · · Score: 1

    Arrgh, slashdotted, here's a mirror.. still one image missing but its almost done!

    --
    jasp
    1. Re:mirror by BiOFH · · Score: 1

      argh! also slashdotted. hehehe
      but thanks for trying.

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    2. Re:Mirror by zeroday-bri · · Score: 1

      thanks very much - my site isn't the most well equipped for /. traffic..

    3. Re:Mirror by pshuman · · Score: 2, Informative

      Here is another mirror: http://www2.shuman.org:8082/mirror/www.rm-r.net/~b ri/casemod/

      For now, all the sizes are there. We will see how long that lasts :)

    4. Re:Mirror by ivrcti · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the mirror!

  57. Whose servers? They must trust this guy a lot... by phorm · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This guy must be fairly decent with his servers. It's one of the few personal-served type websites I've seen that haven't gone under with the slashdot barrage.

    He's also got a page crapload of images on the page, which puts more load than a standard 1-2 image HTML page.

    I must ask though, who is his employer? Surely these aren't his own machines (at the quoted x-million each?) unless he's also one rich SOB. The employer must be really trusting in this guy to let him mess with expensive machines like this. I wonder how they'll take the energy bill associated with all those fancy lights

  58. If slashdot had live audio by phorm · · Score: 1

    We'd hear a lot of clapping about now...

    1. Re:If slashdot had live audio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice one :D

  59. Enterprise case mods? by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 1

    Set your Star Trek references to "groan"!

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  60. Hehe... by Hilleh · · Score: 5, Funny

    Funny this should come up, but just the other day my friend and I were discussing how we could trick the average person into believing we had a supercomputer. It went like this:
    1) Take 4 server cases.
    2) Weld together.
    3) Liberally apply blinking lights, external fans, and colored cabling.
    4) Set up a 286 in one of the cases.
    5) Write a Basic program to display random 1's and 0's.
    The sad thing is, if I invited almost anyone I know over and said "I'm calculating Pi on my supercomputer here", they would all believe it.

    1. Re:Hehe... by The+Dobber · · Score: 2


      Really wow em, add a couple of old tape reels.

    2. Re:Hehe... by digitalsushi · · Score: 2

      but would one of them pay for a similar one on ebay?

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    3. Re:Hehe... by seanadams.com · · Score: 2

      That's pretty geeky - here's another one:

      My first car was a 2-door Honda Accord. The first thing I did when I got the car was to rip most of the electronics out, and hook up my own circuitry to control everything. I installed an alaram system, added power door locks, and then wired up the lock motors to a microcontroller circuit that would trigger a relay for a few seconds when the car was unlocked twice. The relay would power the window motors, lowering them.

      The kicker was I'd tell people that the car was voice activated. I'd walk up with my hand in my pocket, or the remote tucked in my palm and command "doors open". To everyone's amazement, the windows would roll down right on queue. Then they'd try it, and I'd go on to explain that not only were they voice activated, they also recognized the signature of my voice so that only I could unlock the car.

    4. Re:Hehe... by Jay+Tarbox · · Score: 2, Funny

      Interesting. You would say "doors open" and the windows would roll down? Huh. I wouldn't be impressed by that at all.

    5. Re:Hehe... by sharkey · · Score: 2

      Really wow em, add a couple of old tape reels.

      And a ticker-tape printer.

      --

      --
      "Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next.
  61. Jurassic Park by Dr.+Cody · · Score: 1

    Do any of you recall those fantastic red LED covered supercomputers in "Jurassic Park"? I saw a photo of them once in an ad, so I know they're real. Anybody know their name?

    1. Re:Jurassic Park by sysjkb · · Score: 1
      If real, the computers were probably SGI systems. Was the SGI Crimson around back then?

      The neat-o 3d Irix file browser the girl used was FSN (pronounced "Fusion")

      Yours truly,
      Jeffrey Boulier

    2. Re:Jurassic Park by DrunkenTerror · · Score: 1

      I don't know the model, but they were Crays in JPark. Crays are supposed to be kinda nice. ;) I wouldn't know. I did get to play on 12 SGI Onyxes once at Disneyworld.

    3. Re:Jurassic Park by UncleFluffy · · Score: 2

      Do any of you recall those fantastic red LED covered supercomputers in "Jurassic Park"? I saw a photo of them once in an ad, so I know they're real. Anybody know their name?

      Thinking Machines CM-5s.

      --

      What would Lemmy do?

    4. Re:Jurassic Park by Howie · · Score: 2

      The fat geek who dies told you - they're Connection Machines CM5s. Also seen in a few other movies (I wanted to say wargames, but I don't think it was - it played the part of some other pentagon/norad computer anyway).

      The LEDs are the state for all the processor boards - CM5s used a whole heap of massively parallel microprocessors. Here's a pic of a 512-node one. According to this the processors are Sparcs. I vaguely remember an article in Omni (a long time ago) that said they were with 6502s or Z80s - maybe that was a previous model, or a strange dream.

      --
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    5. Re:Jurassic Park by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those were CM5's from Thinking Machines (now gone). We used two of their systems in 1991 for a customer marketing application. People would go down to the data center and turn off the lights just to get energized for another night's coding.

    6. Re:Jurassic Park by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OBTW - the blinking lights were baloney. You could fire them up and control them from a program - but they'd run just fine when the CPU's weren't even installed yet in the frames.

  62. Original Mod by MrNovember · · Score: 2

    Well maybe not the Original Mod but it was definitely something they showed people at the Univ. of Wisconsin CS department. They had a Thinking Machines CM-5 with all these cool blinking LEDs. The department tour always included a viewing of this machine.

    Supposedly the LEDs actually represented something. Dunno -- processors working -- error messages -- and so forth.

    It was pretty cool back in the day; I mean it oozed computing power despite the fact that it really wasn't that useful a machine.

    1. Re:Original Mod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hope they fired the idiot that allowed the room to be cluttered up, effectively relegating that beautiful machine to a slum.

  63. dog and..... by ozmodier · · Score: 2, Insightful

    an effective dog and pony show to impress clients. Plain old raised floor hardware sometimes goes unnoticed and an appreciation for the money invested in the equipment needs a little push.

  64. do you know how to do that in Mozilla? by yerricde · · Score: 1

    turn your stylesheets off.

    How does one tell Mozilla not to download stylesheets?

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    Will I retire or break 10K?
  65. Nope... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    But I know WOPR in Wargames was so called because the real machine used to play out wargames was called BURGR

    Gee, that's so off topic...

  66. A blatant ripoff of Rogers and Hammerstein by Alien+Being · · Score: 2

    Tape reels spinning and line printers printing
    Warm glowing neon and shiny things glinting
    Stacks of brown punch cards tied up with string
    These are a few of my favorite things

    Dot matrix printers and seven bar segments
    Phone bells and switches and papers with pigments
    Disk drives that shudder and shimmy and sing
    These are a few of my favorite things

    Girls in white lab coats with pocket protectors
    Logic gates made of lights and reflectors
    Heavy equipment suspended with springs
    These are a few of my favorite things

    When the screen blues, when the cell rings
    When I'm feeling sad
    I simply remember my favorite things
    And then I don't feel so bad.

    1. Re:A blatant ripoff of Rogers and Hammerstein by vegetablespork · · Score: 1

      That you didn't get modded up for that is truly a travesty. Can you do anything with Edelweiss?

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    2. Re:A blatant ripoff of Rogers and Hammerstein by Alien+Being · · Score: 1

      That you didn't get modded up for that is truly a travesty.
      Thank you!

      Can you do anything with Edelweiss?
      No, but I'd like to do something with Julie Andrews in the mid-sixties %^P

  67. Re:Case Mod by AtariDatacenter · · Score: 2

    Yes. That would be the appropriate response. Nonetheless, I'll send my boss a note and see if we can't lay off one of my coworkers to pay for the modification on a few of our servers. ;)

  68. Stop sniveling! Just because YOU want it one way.. by BiOFH · · Score: 1

    ...doesn't mean it should be that way.

    The guy's right. And he's not trying to say Sun wants to dick over ANYone but the guy has done mods on the machine and that's the bottom line. SHEESH.

    Man, sometimes you people have such a high opinion of yourselves... [whine]well Sun should blah blah blah cuz I think blah blah blah[/whine]

    Serioulsy.... you guys.... get real.

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  69. Re:Whose servers? They must trust this guy a lot.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    What are you kidding?!

    The power bill for lights would be beyond nothing compared to the cost of powering the 15k, not to mention the A/C to cool the damn thing.

  70. Re:case modding is the absolute gayest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Modding a Palm Pilot would be gay! But modding my iPaq, hmmm...

  71. Re:case modding is the absolute gayest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    maybe you're just gay then.

  72. Who cares - wasn't much of a mod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just gluing some lights inside the front door. Big deal. Bah.

    - David

    1. Re:Who cares - wasn't much of a mod by zeroday-bri · · Score: 1

      jealous you didn't do it and get slashdotted?

      seriously though, it's a big joke meant for a few individuals.. the fact that one of those individuals slashdotted me means everyone here is seeing it out of context..

      rather than criticise, i'm thinking everyone should have a laugh and move on to the next shiny object du jour..

    2. Re:Who cares - wasn't much of a mod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dumb prick. You can be dismissive when you show us your big iron case mod. Oh wait, you have a PC.

  73. Sometimes...... by The+Dobber · · Score: 2

    When I'm feeling a little bit nefarious at work, I'll slap a big sticker on the side of my PC. When I'm contemplating a problem, I'll color the keys on my board with a Sharpie. And for shits-n-giggles, sometimes I arrange my collection of troll dolls on top of the monitor.

    Do these qualify as a case mods?

    1. Re:Sometimes...... by kolcun · · Score: 1

      liquid sharpie
      double sided sharpie (fine point, and regular)
      super sharpie

      its nice to see someone who appreciates the sharpie.. /M

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      --- Mike Kolcun
  74. Clarification by DrunkenTerror · · Score: 1

    In the BOOK Jurasic Park, they were Crays. I distinctly recall some character asking about the data-crunching needs of the island (since they were sequencing DNA) and dude replies, matter-of-factly, "Three Cray." To which the inquiring character nearly shits pants. OFFTOPIC: JPark book was much better that movie. Higher body count, numerous other things.

  75. Naaahhh... by _damnit_ · · Score: 1

    I would fix it for him anyways and not report the mod in the case notes. As long as it doesn't tie into the power backplane (and he accepts random ecc errors) I'd fix any obviously defective parts. Tracking down software glitches could prove a little dicey though. I really hope this machine is just for benchmarking or something 'cause I'd be scared sh**less to have this as a production Oracle box!

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    _damnit_

    It's my job to freeze you. -- Logan's Run
    1. Re:Naaahhh... by Servo · · Score: 1

      Back in the day, it was common for high end customers to make small modifications to their systems. I've heard of customers "relocating" switches and display panels to make them look better or more functional.. these aren't PC systems I'm talking about.. they were mainframes and large StorageTek DASDI units.

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  76. Blinkenlights factor by hashashin · · Score: 2, Informative
    I concur completely. Just a few days ago I was looking at the much smaller rack we have in our office, and lamenting the low number of blinkenlights there. Just a few green LEDs to indicate power, disk activity, and network activity on each machine.

    Now, in the old days when all of a machine's output was through blinkenlights or line printers, it was important to display more diagnostic information on the machines. Now we have consoles and logs, but maybe we don't watch those as often as we should.

    I think it would be great if boxmakers could give you an option for a blinkenlights panel that told you a little more about the system's state: processor load, memory load, disk capacity would all be nice. I remember the BeBox's great dual-processor load monitor on twin strips of LEDs along either side of the front of the case. I would probably even pay an extra $100 or so for the extra lights (on a $10K server it's a pretty small incremental addition to the price). If I walked past the machine and saw it was heavily loaded when I didn't expect it to be, I could go check it out and see what was going on.

    And if the unused lights just did programmable effects, that would be nice too... it would be a nice, reassuring little "Still here, just waiting for some data to chew on."

    1. Re:Blinkenlights factor by KernelHappy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I guess it depends on the business but sometimes blinkenlights do actuall sell services. When I worked for one of the major providers of EFT services, every customer tour of the data center included bringing the customer into the comm room. Fourty Tandem. IBM and EMC cabinets sitting on a raised floor is about as interesting looking as a warehouse full of watercoolers. But when you take a customer into a room where hundreds of comm lines terminate and cause their panels to blink franticly the customer usually gets that "wow" look. The trip past the actual hardware was necessary because of the layout of the building otherwise I'd be willing to bet the salespeople would have skipped that section.

      If that doesn't impress the customer, sales people have also been known to show customers how the emergency stop button shuts down the data center (actually happened once).

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  77. Re:slashdot ate my balls! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Brings to mind the King Missile song - Detatchable Penis.

  78. Looks count by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the last corporate shop I worked in, we sold some servers 2to1 over competitors with IDENTICAL specs and service contracts for more money. The reason is that they looked impressive with lots of blinking lights on the front. And lets face it all the corporate bigwigs who come through the server room are actually impressed with the lights - even if they don't have the damnest idea what they are for. Sometimes the illusion of more power is worth the money.

  79. Awesome by VirtualWolf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The green one especially...it looks like something from a Borg cube, especially when the door is open. :)

  80. They look like ... by PFactor · · Score: 1

    vending machines!

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  81. Windows light? by Black+Copter+Control · · Score: 1
    Will mainframes start shipping with light and window options now?"

    Well, as long as SUNfires don't ship with a Windows Light option, I'll be happy.

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    OS Software is like love: The best way to make it grow is to give it away.
  82. Collateral /. damage? by whoppo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ack! I can't get to my server that's sitting on the rack beside bri's machine (rm-r.net). Y'all stop trying to get there for a few minutes so I can retrieve my email.. ok? Thanks :)

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    1. Re:Collateral /. damage? by zeroday-bri · · Score: 1

      RON!

      sorry man - i had no idea.. :/

    2. Re:Collateral /. damage? by whoppo · · Score: 1

      Hey Bri..
      No sweat bro.. there was really still a few kb/s there for me . The hardware looks fsckin' great btw!.. Glad to see you're still having fun :) Drop me a line sometime and let me know what *else* you've been up to!

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  83. Oh my GOD! ORGASM !! by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 0

    1. They seem to be suffering a /. effect. 8-)

    2. Clean up on isle one please, I just had an orgasm!

    3. Where's mine damn it!!

  84. Re:Oh my GOD! ORGASM !! by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 0

    Oh yeah, did I mention that my first sexual experiance was WOPR???

    http://www.sorgonet.com/security/tea/

  85. some answers by zeroday-bri · · Score: 5, Informative

    hey all

    seems i've been slashdotted.. (thanks)

    the problem with my site is the fact that i never increased the apache server count, so you guys pegged it and it's been refusing connections all day.. sorry about that.. if i had any idea it was going to be this popular i may have bumped it up :)

    anyhow, obviously the web site isn't running on those 15ks - if you look closely at the pictures, they're not even plugged in yet..

    some answers:

    1. we're not a dot-com..

    2. we just took delivery of the 15k's and the adic 10k and decided something needed to be done to spruce them up..

    3. it was my bosses idea, actually, he paid for it..

    4. we're pretty good friends with sun, i doubt they'll have a problem with it..

    5. calling this a 'casemod' is a bit of a joke, i know it's not modding anything in the true spirit of the "case modder", just velcroing lights to it.. like i'm going to take a dremel to something that costs this much - even we have limits.. so sorry for the bruised egos, folks..

    6. lots of people are taking this far too seriously..

    7. for the network guys - the cisco gear is maxed out, the other blades haven't arrived yet.. the one that's mostly populated will have fiber in the unused areas, the second will be a warm standby copy.. my comment of 'boring' is a dig at the network guy, as this whole thing was meant for my co-workers and close friends, not general consuption..

    8. we plan on putting a camera in the adic to watch the robot..

    9. these machines are incredibly dense, you can see from the picture, so really the only thing we have to work with are the doors.. even if you think it's lame, you have to admit it's pretty cool..

    10. we're still debating about the colors..

    thanks a lot to those of you who get it and think this is fun, since that's all it's intended to be.. it's not a folly of having too much money or a pinhead boss, it's just a bunch of unix dorks having fun before we plug the thing in..

    bri..

    1. Re:some answers by b1t+r0t · · Score: 2
      7. for the network guys - the cisco gear is maxed out, the other blades haven't arrived yet.. the one that's mostly populated will have fiber in the unused areas, the second will be a warm standby copy.. my comment of 'boring' is a dig at the network guy, as this whole thing was meant for my co-workers and close friends, not general consuption..

      So when do you do the case mod for the "boring router switchy things"?

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    2. Re:some answers by gnuage.cowboy · · Score: 1

      You guys are my heros! unix rocks!

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  86. Deja Vu by Evro · · Score: 1

    A lot of people in this thread are suggesting that Sun offer prettified servers to impress clients. I'll only make an observation that a company has tried selling servers before that had a major selling point of "cool blue light." That company no longer sells servers.

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  87. Convex Exemplar - Last of the Great Blinken-Lights by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 2

    Once upon a time, high-end boxes came pre-modded. But, then the cold war ended and high-end box manufacturers could no longer afford extravagances like that. Of those machines of the last generation of blinken-lights, the Convex Exemplar SPP-1000 was the most kickass looking computer system ever designed.

    Check it out
    (As you can see, they were so kick-ass they not only walked on water, they hovered above it!)

    Those yellow-green light-bars that go up the front, over the top and down the back are actually fully programmable individual one-inch lights. These boxes came with code to do all kinds of fancy effects with the blinken-lights, such as a ping-pong effect, or racing dots that went at different speeds depending on the load of the machine.

    Although the pictures only show the base metallic-purple skins, you could order them with one of 20 different color schemes. The Scripps Research Institute got theirs in a very bright red, as you can see.

    Ultimately, Convex got bought by HP and all future designs from that group were exceedingly dull-looking, until finally, just last week, HP laid off a boat-load of the Convex engineers because HP doesn't need technical expertise anymore - they are Microsoft's largest partner!

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  88. why? by Raven42rac · · Score: 2

    why do such a thing, how would that look to the corporate bigwigs when they walk into your server room, and see a ridiculous-looking contraption with blinking lights and windows and sound responsive leds......well I will tell you, they will think that it is wicked awesome

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  89. Sun branded 2x4's by nbvb · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just FWIW, the official Sun-branded 2x4 is Part # 414-1100-01.

    Just check next time you get an Enterprise or Sun Fire server on a pallet ...

    --NBVB

    1. Re:Sun branded 2x4's by John+Murray · · Score: 1

      But it costs $49.95, if you willing to take a chance you can use a generic 2x4 but you could void your warenty.

  90. Intel Paragon by mikeleemm · · Score: 1

    I don't know if anyone has seen an old Intel Paragon Supercomputer, but there used to be one at Purdue University and that had lots of blinking light boxes on the whole unit that corresponded to processor utilitization.. Looked really cool til they got rid of it around '99... (Not y2k compliant perhaps? :) Also, I've modded a Compaq Proliant 5000R by switching the regular green LEDs in the drive trays with BRIGHT blue ones, used to light up the whole room. Server is forsale actually :)

    1. Re:Intel Paragon by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 0

      I removed the dumbass "turbo" and "green mode" LEDs from an old PC case and painted it black.
      I dropped two nics and a p100 mobo in and boot up floppyfw on it.

      I removed the traffic LEDs from the nics and ran wires to a pair of super blue LEDs in the front of the case.

      Now I have a black box router with very cool lights. At night when I turn the main lights down it awesome as traffic flows.

      I also replaced the HDD light in my Linux box with a super blue and added one for it's nic.

      I have 7 PC's in smoked glass cabinets all with lots of blinking lights, not to mention all manner of monitors and satellite equipment everywhere. It's geek heaven. Mountians and mountains of old mobo's and PC cards. It befuddles all but the most hardcore nerds/geeks..

      The light show is annoying, to be honest, now that I got over the newness of it, but it impresses visitors all to hell and my son likes to show of my computer room to his friends.

      Still, it's fun, I keep the soldering iron hot all the time and am always hacking into something. I even have Ethernet connections in the bathroom and garage.

      Yep, blinking lights do impress folks, but they also are handy when you use them as status indicators.

  91. Off-topic by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: 2

    Your cat in the sink is a classic.
    A perfect place for a cat I spose, except for the fact it has a tap hovering right over it's head....Ignorance is bliss ;)

  92. I'm sure you would... by BiOFH · · Score: 1

    >Bullshit. If i was a Sun tech and i got called out
    > to a site with these mad muvvas, i'd nut in my
    >pants and then fall overmyself talking to the guy. ...until you lose your job cuz the machines go belly up and the company wants to know why you think they should replace 2 or 3 million worth of computing due to an alarmingly high concentration of free electrons floating about the racks... rather than sack you for not handling it. ;)

    Then you can 'nut your pants' at home all day long and play games until they come re-possess your Xbox.

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  93. Re:woops by CowbertPrime · · Score: 2

    Talk to CmdrTaco about that. It's gotta be a bug in the slashcode, no? (The submission form lets you put in an email address and if you aren't logged in, then you are posting as anonymous coward, but because the display for the first page does a mailto: on the poster's name.)

  94. wow by JamesCronus · · Score: 1

    that has got to be the coolest and maybe the sexyist thing i have ever seen, wow

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  95. Mod the Cisco! by zardie · · Score: 1

    At least.

    Remember that there are TWO supervisor 2 engines in those machines (see the pic)

    We've got *ONE* of these at work, along with a bunch of 6509s around the *core* network. Damn, they're cool.

    So... like, when is someone going to rice up a Cisco?

  96. No Red Light District� by VJTod · · Score: 1

    How about some action shots of the 10k with the red lights on Or is it just not as cool as the e15ks.

  97. unnnngh... by ChaoticLimbs · · Score: 1

    Excuse me whilst I change out of these wet clothes...and have a post-coitus cigarette.

  98. Server load lights by ChaoticLimbs · · Score: 1

    A nice touch would be ofr the computer to control the lights to show CPU load or bandwidth load by color code- with blue, green and red, all colors are available. I think a beowulf cluster of these with color coded load indication would be a nice thing to imagine.

  99. Hell yeah! by Artana+Niveus+Corvum · · Score: 1

    I'm going to have to agree with you... the best looking thing in our server bank is (unfortunately) a Dell 6550 rackmount. The darkly shiny metal grill is complimented by the luminescent blue Dell logo in the center.It's a Quad Xeon 2.4Ghz deal with 16GB of main memory... one of our fastest machines... but also the smallest. I've been thinking I need to add at least a few random blue leds around the edges or something... not gonna happen though, my boss has a good friend who knows nothing about computers but thinks that even the one blue light looks terribly tacky.... and my boss listens to her of course....damn it...oh well, just venting I suppose

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  100. Oooooooh well. by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 1

    The next thing you know, people will run out of things to do and start casemodding their toasters.

  101. Matrix Orbital for backlit alphanumerics by Mr+Z · · Score: 1

    You might look at these guys first. You can really get that WOPR status-display look going. You won't get der blinkenlights from Matrix-Orbital though.

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  102. Even the data center management is clueless. by oneiros27 · · Score: 2

    We had to have a forced power outage while they were installing power cutover, so they could service the UPSes in our rather aged datacenter.

    As we had between 2-4 hours that we were going to be down, as we hadn't gotten approval for a maintenance window in over a year, we moved some disk arrays around, replaced out some old sun "Mass Storage" racks [30" wide cabinet, 28RU, single power] for "Expansion Cabinets" [24" wide, 36U, dual powered].

    In the process, we also moved a few systems that were in a rack that was primarily filled with a system going out of production, and cleaned up a signficant chunk of the rats nest of cabling behind these cabinets.

    We were thanked by the data center management for making everything look nicer. [Not placing the systems with redundant power supplies in a rack with redundant power supplies, preventing future downtime for systems, creating more room in the machine room, etc, etc, etc] Hell, we weren't even directly thanked for pulling it off with less than 2 weeks notice, and only losing one system in the process [Sparc Storage Array 200, which had been in service for over 6 years with no signficant downtime]

    Oh...and even more important than looking nice -- it helps if it actually fits through the door, and doesn't cause the floor to buckle.

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  103. Shareholder of Sun THANK YOU! by bjb · · Score: 2
    As I've been carefully watching my 200 shares of Sun Microsystems go down the toilet over the last several months, I've been trying to think how could this great company increase its value? With Linux and cheap commodity x86 hardware becoming more popular in this lousy economy, high-end SPARC systems from Sun just aren't getting purchased as much.

    These people have made the Sun look cooler than the IBM x86 rack, and maybe it'll make the IT managers buy more Sun! Raise my stock value! Make me more money! Woo-hoo!

    Sorry.. had to say it..

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  104. SGI by AboveAverage · · Score: 1

    On the SGI Origins you can get the LCD display on the boot module to show a bar graph of CPU usage. This works out very well for tours.

  105. Hardware, schmardware by sharkey · · Score: 2

    I'd like some Enterprise SOFTWARE to work on. In particular, Subcommander T'Pol.

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  106. Last Post! by alpg · · Score: 1

    As in Protestant Europe, by contrast, where sects divided endlessly into
    smaller competing sects and no church dominated any other, all is different
    in the fragmented world of IBM. That realm is now a chaos of conflicting
    norms and standards that not even IBM can hope to control. You can buy a
    computer that works like an IBM machine but contains nothing made or sold by
    IBM itself. Renegades from IBM constantly set up rival firms and establish
    standards of their own. When IBM recently abandoned some of its original
    standards and decreed new ones, many of its rivals declared a puritan
    allegiance to IBM's original faith, and denounced the company as a divisive
    innovator. Still, the IBM world is united by its distrust of icons and
    imagery. IBM's screens are designed for language, not pictures. Graven
    images may be tolerated by the luxurious cults, but the true IBM faith relies
    on the austerity of the word.
    -- Edward Mendelson, "The New Republic", February 22, 1988

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  107. You're too fast. by vegetablespork · · Score: 2

    I got last post.

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