You can see the changes, they're already live on our Support Forum which was linked in my post. Our full launch isn't until April. We have many clients that opted to upgrade early even while we are still in beta.
disclosure: I'm the President and CEO of ProBoards, my company creates forum software.
From TFA: "When I looked at forum software again after leaving Stack Exchange, I was appalled to discover that after four years virtually nothing had changed."
This is a great sound bite, but unfortuantely is just not true. There is a lot of innovation in the forum space going on. A few recent software releases come to mind that offer new, unique functionality. XenForo, vBulletin 5, and my company's new forum software ProBoards v5 that launches on April 29th.
I can't speak in depth to our competitor's products, but I can tell you how we have taken forums to the next level:
-Live Search. Most pages have a search box you can type in, and the threads/posts update live on screen. -AJAX pagination - switch between pages without needing to load a full new page. -Integrated Notifications. We push content to you, you shouldn't have to seek it out. -Integrated mobile site -Clean, simple UI (while keeping all functionality available) -Enhanced privacy. More control over what you see and who can see you. -Activity feeds for staying up to date with your friends on the forum -Single signon for all ProBoards forums with the ability to easily switch between forums -WYSIWYG editor -"Conversations" instead of PMs -- you can have multiple people in a discussion -Better moderator tools that make it easier than ever for mods to get stuff done with fewer clicks. -We launched a new section on our homepage that shows you all forums you are a member of and information such as how many new messages you have, notifications, if any of your participated topics were updated, and more -- many forums, all on one single page. -and a whole lot more.
This simply is not enough. From what it sounds like, they'll sign the bill as long as the DNS portion is removed. This will still kill many user-generated content websites on the Internet.
Putting aside issue of him admitting to using GPL'd code (which clearly makes him fall under GPL rules), how can this apply if he himself is not selling code linked to WP?
He is selling a template, the user is the one who links it into the WP system. If he distributed WP+the template all in one package I think you could say it was linked, but as it stands he is selling stand alone software that won't do anything until it becomes linked into the WP system by the end user.
So technically he's just distributing software he wrote (besides his copying of code) that itself is not linked into any system. Then the user takes that code and links it in. So isn't the end user the one who is GPLing the code (maybe in violation of the template author's policies?)
When you vote for a bill you don't get to pick and choose what sections you are voting for. It's all or nothing.
Obama voted for an amendment which would remove the telecom immunity provision of the bill, but it didn't pass. So instead of voting to take a way a tool in our war on terror, he voted for the bill as a whole.
Sen. Obama has said before that the compromise bill is not perfect. Given the choice between voting for an improved yet imperfect bill, and losing important surveillance tools, Sen. Obama chose to support the FISA compromise."
Opponents, including Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., and Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., argued that a legal exemption is at best premature, because details of the wiretapping program are not yet fully known. But a Dodd amendment that would have stripped out the immunity title received just 32 votes, all of them from Democrats, including Obama, along with Sen. Bernie Sanders, independent-Vt.
When someone causes hundreds of thousands of requests directed at my servers every single day, increasing my traffic to the point where I may need to purchase new machines to keep up with the load, that is slimey.
There is no benefit for me out of them loading pages from my web site. They aren't a crawler that indexes my site to list on a search engine somewhere for more people to find it later.
It's not like virus scanners can't scan an incoming page and block it. There's no need for this product to act as it does. Just identify the malware as it comes in instead of identifying it before a user even potentially visits. It's not like they are even guaranteed to click anyways since it is scanning every result on the page.
The problem is, my upper-middle class family had more down to Earth plans for me and my college choices (about $30,000/year more down to Earth, actually)
Pretty he didn't mean his parents would pay $30k, he meant they wanted to pay $30k less than what MIT costs. If they included housing costs, that means $15k/year, if they weren't including that then they would only be offering $5k/year.
Doesn't discount your other points, but I believe clarification was needed.
To start off, yes I did play wow. My in game play time is 57 days. I did quit a month ago.
The in game assistance from Game Masters in World of Warcraft game is horrible. Well, not the assistance itself, but the time you have to sit any wait for help. The lowest time I ever waited was 2 hours, and that was a miracle. Most times when any glitch or major issue comes up, paging a GM results in a reply nearly 10 hours later (literally).
Does Blizzard plan on staffing more in game GMs to help with user problems, or can users always expect that when they need help in game they should open up a help ticket and then check their email the next day for their official reply? I've been in time sensitive situations where there is a bug and "epic" items could be lost (loot bugs in Molten Core for example) and not had a GM come in time to help us.
Quote: "A local farmer spotted the drama from his kitchen window and took surprisingly sharp photos with a remarkably powerful telescopic lens."
Ok, a farmer, with a powerful telescopic lens, who happens to have it in hand, and start taking pictures just as the raft starts to deflate?
How about this quote: "As much as I don't want to talk behind a colleague's back, there is no doubt that we would never have let Eskil assist Jon in the raft had we known he can neither swim nor read maps,"
Is it just me, or can't you just burn the cd, then rip it into mp3? Is this against the iTunes EULA? Or do people just not want to do this because they feel they are going to lose some minor amount of sound quality doing this?
I received a letter from them a couple weeks ago claiming that they own a patent on subdomains using wildcards. Seems rediculous. I'm waiting to see what action they are going to take. I see this patent failing when it comes to court, I'll fight it if they intend to sue.
you allowed spammers to use sub-domains off a domain you control.
At ProBoards, every single account gets their own subdomain instantly when you sign up. We don't provide them any type of email services, just a nice URL to access their message board at. I "allowed spammers" to use a subdomain? Please. Someone create a message board, and they got a subdomain for the URL to their message board. Thats all that there is here.
How is giving everyone a subdomain for their account being involved in spam activities? It isn't. Being involved in spam activities would be sending out the emails myself, or at least have knowledge of another person who was sending them out on my behalf.
The issue isn't just the cost of the domain. The issue is that my clients lost access to their message boards. Our server "21" hosts 40,000 message boards, and over 100,000 users (probably way more than that, this is a conservative estimate). I am losing revenue, and potentially clients will leave, all because GoDaddy disabled access to my domain name.
That was an account which we terminated a couple days ago due to a SpamCop complaint we received. That situation was handled, and then GoDaddy came around and decided it would be a great idea if they just disabled our domain because of the complaint. I've posted more details in other threads.
The nameservers are still wrong. If you read my other thread you will see that I had to pay them $250 to get my domain back. Now the domain shows up in my account at GoDaddy, and I submitted a request to change my name servers back to the correct setting. Until those changes propogate, I still have people who are not able to access their accounts.
Registrant:
ProBoards.com
21532 Calle Otono
Lake Forest, California 92630
United States
Registered through: GoDaddy.com
Domain Name: PROBOARDS21.COM
Created on: 17-Mar-03
Expires on: 17-Mar-07
Last Updated on: 24-Feb-04
Administrative Contact:
Clinger, Patrick whois@proboards.com
ProBoards.com
21532 Calle Otono
Lake Forest, California 92630
United States
9494630329 Fax --
Technical Contact:
Clinger, Patrick whois@proboards.com
ProBoards.com
21532 Calle Otono
Lake Forest, California 92630
United States
9494630329 Fax --
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.SUSPENDED-FOR.SPAM-AND-ABUSE.COM
NS2.SUSPENDED-FOR.SPAM-AND-ABUSE.COM
If you read my message, I never said my server was used as a spam relay -- it wasn't. My servers are locked down, I don't leave them as open relays. I'm not an idiot.
GoDaddy disabled my domain because some person sent an email to another person, and mentioned my domain in that email. It is as simple was that. The email did not originate from my servers. The email had nothing to do with me, except it mentioned the URL of one of the over 500,000 message boards that ProBoards hosts.
Don't make accusations when you don't know the facts.
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You can see the changes, they're already live on our Support Forum which was linked in my post. Our full launch isn't until April. We have many clients that opted to upgrade early even while we are still in beta.
Our software does not rely on client side security. That IS all done server side. I didn't make any statements to the contrary in my original post.
disclosure: I'm the President and CEO of ProBoards, my company creates forum software.
From TFA: "When I looked at forum software again after leaving Stack Exchange, I was appalled to discover that after four years virtually nothing had changed."
This is a great sound bite, but unfortuantely is just not true. There is a lot of innovation in the forum space going on. A few recent software releases come to mind that offer new, unique functionality. XenForo, vBulletin 5, and my company's new forum software ProBoards v5 that launches on April 29th.
I can't speak in depth to our competitor's products, but I can tell you how we have taken forums to the next level:
-Live Search. Most pages have a search box you can type in, and the threads/posts update live on screen.
-AJAX pagination - switch between pages without needing to load a full new page.
-Integrated Notifications. We push content to you, you shouldn't have to seek it out.
-Integrated mobile site
-Clean, simple UI (while keeping all functionality available)
-Enhanced privacy. More control over what you see and who can see you.
-Activity feeds for staying up to date with your friends on the forum
-Single signon for all ProBoards forums with the ability to easily switch between forums
-WYSIWYG editor
-"Conversations" instead of PMs -- you can have multiple people in a discussion
-Better moderator tools that make it easier than ever for mods to get stuff done with fewer clicks.
-We launched a new section on our homepage that shows you all forums you are a member of and information such as how many new messages you have, notifications, if any of your participated topics were updated, and more -- many forums, all on one single page.
-and a whole lot more.
You can test these features in our new software yourself at http://support.proboards.com./
My main point is this: There is plenty of innovation going on. Go look for it.
This simply is not enough. From what it sounds like, they'll sign the bill as long as the DNS portion is removed. This will still kill many user-generated content websites on the Internet.
Putting aside issue of him admitting to using GPL'd code (which clearly makes him fall under GPL rules), how can this apply if he himself is not selling code linked to WP?
He is selling a template, the user is the one who links it into the WP system. If he distributed WP+the template all in one package I think you could say it was linked, but as it stands he is selling stand alone software that won't do anything until it becomes linked into the WP system by the end user.
So technically he's just distributing software he wrote (besides his copying of code) that itself is not linked into any system. Then the user takes that code and links it in. So isn't the end user the one who is GPLing the code (maybe in violation of the template author's policies?)
Geeks clone themselves, it provides the same benefits without all the hassle with women.
It seems you made a mistake in your post, I've gone ahead and fixed it though.
For some people it's not only about saving money but being a good environmental steward.
When you vote for a bill you don't get to pick and choose what sections you are voting for. It's all or nothing.
Obama voted for an amendment which would remove the telecom immunity provision of the bill, but it didn't pass. So instead of voting to take a way a tool in our war on terror, he voted for the bill as a whole.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2008/07/10/MN3H11ME7C.DTL
As his campaign manager said:
Sen. Obama has said before that the compromise bill is not perfect. Given the choice between voting for an improved yet imperfect bill, and losing important surveillance tools, Sen. Obama chose to support the FISA compromise."
Opponents, including Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., and Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., argued that a legal exemption is at best premature, because details of the wiretapping program are not yet fully known. But a Dodd amendment that would have stripped out the immunity title received just 32 votes, all of them from Democrats, including Obama, along with Sen. Bernie Sanders, independent-Vt.
When someone causes hundreds of thousands of requests directed at my servers every single day, increasing my traffic to the point where I may need to purchase new machines to keep up with the load, that is slimey.
There is no benefit for me out of them loading pages from my web site. They aren't a crawler that indexes my site to list on a search engine somewhere for more people to find it later.
It's not like virus scanners can't scan an incoming page and block it. There's no need for this product to act as it does. Just identify the malware as it comes in instead of identifying it before a user even potentially visits. It's not like they are even guaranteed to click anyways since it is scanning every result on the page.
verynice
The problem is, my upper-middle class family had more down to Earth plans for me and my college choices (about $30,000/year more down to Earth, actually)
Pretty he didn't mean his parents would pay $30k, he meant they wanted to pay $30k less than what MIT costs. If they included housing costs, that means $15k/year, if they weren't including that then they would only be offering $5k/year.
Doesn't discount your other points, but I believe clarification was needed.
To start off, yes I did play wow. My in game play time is 57 days. I did quit a month ago.
The in game assistance from Game Masters in World of Warcraft game is horrible. Well, not the assistance itself, but the time you have to sit any wait for help. The lowest time I ever waited was 2 hours, and that was a miracle. Most times when any glitch or major issue comes up, paging a GM results in a reply nearly 10 hours later (literally).
Does Blizzard plan on staffing more in game GMs to help with user problems, or can users always expect that when they need help in game they should open up a help ticket and then check their email the next day for their official reply? I've been in time sensitive situations where there is a bug and "epic" items could be lost (loot bugs in Molten Core for example) and not had a GM come in time to help us.
Am I the only one who thinks this is fake?
Quote:
"A local farmer spotted the drama from his kitchen window and took surprisingly sharp photos with a remarkably powerful telescopic lens."
Ok, a farmer, with a powerful telescopic lens, who happens to have it in hand, and start taking pictures just as the raft starts to deflate?
How about this quote:
"As much as I don't want to talk behind a colleague's back, there is no doubt that we would never have let Eskil assist Jon in the raft had we known he can neither swim nor read maps,"
Seriously... this has to be a joke.
Someone please post up a torrent of this if you get it downloaded.
Is it just me, or can't you just burn the cd, then rip it into mp3? Is this against the iTunes EULA? Or do people just not want to do this because they feel they are going to lose some minor amount of sound quality doing this?
Link to patent here.
I received a letter from them a couple weeks ago claiming that they own a patent on subdomains using wildcards. Seems rediculous. I'm waiting to see what action they are going to take. I see this patent failing when it comes to court, I'll fight it if they intend to sue.
Standard problem customers? How about this: This is what they did to me.
At ProBoards, every single account gets their own subdomain instantly when you sign up. We don't provide them any type of email services, just a nice URL to access their message board at. I "allowed spammers" to use a subdomain? Please. Someone create a message board, and they got a subdomain for the URL to their message board. Thats all that there is here.
How is giving everyone a subdomain for their account being involved in spam activities? It isn't. Being involved in spam activities would be sending out the emails myself, or at least have knowledge of another person who was sending them out on my behalf.
Doing another search for other IPs in the same block as mine, you will find that the same 4 "positives" show up for all IPs with the prefix 207.44.184.
That isn't me getting blacklisted, that is the entire block being blacklisted, which is not my doing. Parent should be modded down.
Thanks for you words. I'll try to post in my journal how things are going.
Patrick
The issue isn't just the cost of the domain. The issue is that my clients lost access to their message boards. Our server "21" hosts 40,000 message boards, and over 100,000 users (probably way more than that, this is a conservative estimate). I am losing revenue, and potentially clients will leave, all because GoDaddy disabled access to my domain name.
That was an account which we terminated a couple days ago due to a SpamCop complaint we received. That situation was handled, and then GoDaddy came around and decided it would be a great idea if they just disabled our domain because of the complaint. I've posted more details in other threads.
The nameservers are still wrong. If you read my other thread you will see that I had to pay them $250 to get my domain back. Now the domain shows up in my account at GoDaddy, and I submitted a request to change my name servers back to the correct setting. Until those changes propogate, I still have people who are not able to access their accounts.
Registrant:
ProBoards.com
21532 Calle Otono
Lake Forest, California 92630
United States
Registered through: GoDaddy.com
Domain Name: PROBOARDS21.COM
Created on: 17-Mar-03
Expires on: 17-Mar-07
Last Updated on: 24-Feb-04
Administrative Contact:
Clinger, Patrick whois@proboards.com
ProBoards.com
21532 Calle Otono
Lake Forest, California 92630
United States
9494630329 Fax --
Technical Contact:
Clinger, Patrick whois@proboards.com
ProBoards.com
21532 Calle Otono
Lake Forest, California 92630
United States
9494630329 Fax --
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.SUSPENDED-FOR.SPAM-AND-ABUSE.COM
NS2.SUSPENDED-FOR.SPAM-AND-ABUSE.COM
If you read my message, I never said my server was used as a spam relay -- it wasn't. My servers are locked down, I don't leave them as open relays. I'm not an idiot.
GoDaddy disabled my domain because some person sent an email to another person, and mentioned my domain in that email. It is as simple was that. The email did not originate from my servers. The email had nothing to do with me, except it mentioned the URL of one of the over 500,000 message boards that ProBoards hosts.
Don't make accusations when you don't know the facts.