That's merely advertising. Do you believe everything that is advertised?
But hey, if it does seem to work out for some people, more power to them. But not me. Oh no. I'll stop before I get off topic... mmm... I'm already off topic... drat...
Sometimes if you see something weird in your dreams, it might not mean anything, you could have just been dreaming something you might have seen on the TV or something.
All this armwaving about "hidden meanings" is just making a fun movie more than it really is: a fun movie.
What's especially funny is the BSD people who like to claim that BSD is unix based. Perhaps they forgot the whole point of 4.4BSD-lite and the AT&T lawsuits. The point was to get rid of all the original unix source. So stop being so high and mighty, you're not special.
What's especially funny is the Linux people who like to claim that Everything is Linux, while they actually mean Unix-like/derived in 95% of the cases.
I agree with your view though... And yes, I'm one of BSD cult, although I know BSD doesn't have the UNIX brand anymore. I never claimed (nor will I ever) that BSD is UNIX. BSD is, well BSD:)
Drat... 7 kb? Damn... My simple a.out webserver can't top that.
-rwxr-x--x 1 root 31730 Mar 4 00:29 webserver
Yes, that's a stripped executable. But of course it's an emulated pdp11 running a crappy 2.11BSD, nothing special. Oh, if you want to look at the pages it serves and download the vintage K&R source, you're welcome here. Be gentle though:)
Agreed... Astronomical events like these should be pre-programmed instead of posted from the hip. I hope too that the slashdot editors learn a lesson from this...
It might be a novel idea to Taco and friends to post these stories _in advance_ of the actual event, not when it's already gone. *sigh*
OS X control panels do most (if not all) stuffs through sudo. It's safe-ish, and the only thing you can nuke as a privved user in OS X is the stuff in/Applications.
You'd lose your apps, but the OS will still boot up and be fine. You can't touch stuff in/bin,/etc or the other critical places.
This is a very insightful and informative reply. Any moderator with half a brain would mod this up immediately.
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The Usenet Death Penalty is just that people will stop every posting appearing on USENET originating from an ISP that misbehaves too much (i.e. wanton spammage)
No need for DDoS anything for that, some well programmed cancelbots on key places will do that trick quite nicely. And yes, it is an effective tool to twist an ISP's arm into cooperating/complying.
The real beef on the Usenet Death Penalty is here. Read it before you spout off about something you don't know anything about.
Well, you are a bit offtopic on this one, but you are half right. When a kernel patch changes syscall numbers around, you'd have to recompile libc and make sure your new libc extracts/maps the right syscall to the right function (the libc build stuff paying attention to what's in the kernel headers usually takes care of this), or every app using that syscall will just die with a SIGILL or something else interesting.
what about local attacks using the global offset table or return-into-libc function pointer overwriting attacks? With those you can put executable code somewhere else and use another trampoline instead of a return address.
Sure, this will nullify most remotely exploitable vulnerabilities, but what about local ones that are vulnerable in the manners I just described?
This has been in the works (and working) for quite a while. I saw a presentation by Hugh Daniels in "De Waag" in Amsterdam a couple of years back about FreeS/WAN and opportunistic IPSEC, and he gave a working presentation with live hosts on the net that were using it back then. (Hi Hugh, I was the guy that asked all the good questions, remember me?:)
But of course it's nice to see this getting more exposure. The problem with IPSEC has always been the hassle of setting it up. Having encryption kick in "automagically", is a good thing to have.
Well, there is some caldera code in the Linux kernel...
I did some grepping:
coolvibe@azazel linux $ grep -nri Caldera * CREDITS:2416:E: sp@caldera.de CREDITS:2418:S: Caldera (Deutschland) GmbH Documentation/Configure.help:28517:# LocalWords: caldera Preload Preloading slowdowns schoebel uni NBD nbd prog Documentation/networking/tlan.txt:1:(C) 1997-1998 Caldera, Inc. Documentation/smp.tex:27:The author wishes to thank Caldera Inc. ( http://www.caldera.com ) Documentation/sound/CMI8338:56: b. Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 arch/x86_64/kernel/smpboot.c:13: * Original development of Linux SMP code supported by Caldera. arch/i386/kernel/smpboot.c:12: * Original development of Linux SMP code supported by Caldera. drivers/net/slip.c:41: * from Jim Freeman's <jfree@caldera.com> drivers/net/tlan.c:8: * (C) 1997-1998 Caldera, Inc. drivers/net/tlan.h:10: * (C) 1997-1998 Caldera, Inc.
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Some of the original work on Linux SMP was done by them. Of course they put that in (donated the code) themselves, so there's nothing to cry "Wolf" over anyway...
...as I see it is maybe for an in-game scripting language, i.e. QuakeC in the golden olden days.
I mean, I'm not advocating.NET or anything, but the idea of being able to plug perl or python (or whatever else) could be pretty cool for making game mods, dontchathink?
Using.NET to write a full blown, polygon-pushing, 3d-accelerated game would be like shooting off your foot with a nuke. Although, I'd like to be proven wrong:)
BLFS is a collection of instructions for installing various bits of popular software like Gnome, KDE, Mozilla, and more.
Although I agree building these from scratch is a great learning (and waiting) experience, I do recommend things like Garnome or Konstruct to build those. They worked a treat when I set up my LFS box (which is now a gentoo box again though).
Of course, when I want to finish off a machine quickly, I just use FreeBSD and be done with it:)
Well, how many amounts of psychotropic drugs do I have to take to be able to dig this? I mean, reading the slashdot games section could become an expensive habit that way...
An anonymous coward was worried about having neon streaks branded in his retinae. I have the same worry. Looking directly into the sun is less painful.
I guess I have to start visiting the slashdot site in light-mode to escape this insanity. I thank whoever said that for the advice...
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That's merely advertising. Do you believe everything that is advertised?
But hey, if it does seem to work out for some people, more power to them. But not me. Oh no. I'll stop before I get off topic... mmm... I'm already off topic... drat...
Amen! oh crap...
*ducks*
Sometimes if you see something weird in your dreams, it might not mean anything, you could have just been dreaming something you might have seen on the TV or something.
All this armwaving about "hidden meanings" is just making a fun movie more than it really is: a fun movie.
What's especially funny is the Linux people who like to claim that Everything is Linux, while they actually mean Unix-like/derived in 95% of the cases.
I agree with your view though... And yes, I'm one of BSD cult, although I know BSD doesn't have the UNIX brand anymore. I never claimed (nor will I ever) that BSD is UNIX. BSD is, well BSD :)
Yes, that's a stripped executable. But of course it's an emulated pdp11 running a crappy 2.11BSD, nothing special. Oh, if you want to look at the pages it serves and download the vintage K&R source, you're welcome here. Be gentle though :)
That's why, when this dynamic linking funnyness is going through, I want static versions of /bin and /sbin utils in /stand.
Try google and search on a keyword like "linux" or something else popular. Notice the text-boxes on the right.
It might be a novel idea to Taco and friends to post these stories _in advance_ of the actual event, not when it's already gone. *sigh*
Or a real honest-to-goodness airborne flu-virus. Yay... Gotta remember not to sneeze on the pizza when I send it to you.
You'd lose your apps, but the OS will still boot up and be fine. You can't touch stuff in /bin, /etc or the other critical places.
This is a very insightful and informative reply. Any moderator with half a brain would mod this up immediately.
The Usenet Death Penalty is just that people will stop every posting appearing on USENET originating from an ISP that misbehaves too much (i.e. wanton spammage)
No need for DDoS anything for that, some well programmed cancelbots on key places will do that trick quite nicely. And yes, it is an effective tool to twist an ISP's arm into cooperating/complying.
The real beef on the Usenet Death Penalty is here. Read it before you spout off about something you don't know anything about.
- makes mental not to *NEVER* buy SCO laundry detergent when it ever appears
Well, you are a bit offtopic on this one, but you are half right. When a kernel patch changes syscall numbers around, you'd have to recompile libc and make sure your new libc extracts/maps the right syscall to the right function (the libc build stuff paying attention to what's in the kernel headers usually takes care of this), or every app using that syscall will just die with a SIGILL or something else interesting.
Sure, this will nullify most remotely exploitable vulnerabilities, but what about local ones that are vulnerable in the manners I just described?
But of course it's nice to see this getting more exposure. The problem with IPSEC has always been the hassle of setting it up. Having encryption kick in "automagically", is a good thing to have.
I'm really happy driving my tank, thank you... :)
Or they *shudder* used STL code in the kernel....
I did some grepping:
Some of the original work on Linux SMP was done by them. Of course they put that in (donated the code) themselves, so there's nothing to cry "Wolf" over anyway...
I mean, I'm not advocating .NET or anything, but the idea of being able to plug perl or python (or whatever else) could be pretty cool for making game mods, dontchathink?
Using .NET to write a full blown, polygon-pushing, 3d-accelerated game would be like shooting off your foot with a nuke. Although, I'd like to be proven wrong :)
Although I agree building these from scratch is a great learning (and waiting) experience, I do recommend things like Garnome or Konstruct to build those. They worked a treat when I set up my LFS box (which is now a gentoo box again though).
Of course, when I want to finish off a machine quickly, I just use FreeBSD and be done with it :)
(yeah, that was an old (last years) april fool joke of mine, but what the heck :) Lots of japanese fell for it hook, line and sinker.)
Thanks, man...
An anonymous coward was worried about having neon streaks branded in his retinae. I have the same worry. Looking directly into the sun is less painful.
I guess I have to start visiting the slashdot site in light-mode to escape this insanity. I thank whoever said that for the advice...