Should I point out that the article doesn't say that any were confiscated, but rather that she inquired before taking action, and that he replied that they wanted any confiscated copies returned?
The linux kernel s fresh code, and generally shipped with the GNU utilities. Neither the kernel nor the gnu stuff descends from the code, whereas the origin of the BSD's is a source license to the old code.
While the BSDs aren't counted as Unix by trademark, and it wouldn't really make sense to count them as such in this study, they *are* the actual unix code. Linux is not.
>Seeing as Dell doesn't force you to buy an operating >system with their servers, why did you bother buying >them in the first place?
They're available with different options when you buy them with MS Windows. When we bought a Dell server for my workstation at the University, we ended up having to buy it with Windows, as we couldn't get some of the parts we wanted without. They actually have (had) separate configuration pages.
Since the first thing we were going to due was install FreeBSD, it didn't matter which it came with; just what hardware we could have shipped with it. It never booted Windows . . .
I am an attorney, but this is not legal advice. If you get your legal advice on slashdot, rush to a psychiatrist.
It *used* to work that way, which came up in one of the antitrust suits. MS had made it cheaper to license windows for all machines than to pay for each machine on which it was installed, pretty much killing off DR-DOS.
They can no longer enter that type of license agreement for all machines sold by a company, but they can still enter it for a particular line of machines, which is why you see some lines that come with windows, and other with a choice of machines.
The Roman Empire was a military dictatorship from the beginning (The Imperator was the military commander).
That's the First Century BC (I'll leave it to historians to quibble about whether the empire started with Caesar overstaying his term as Dictator or the crowning of Augustus), and it lasted the Fifth Century AD in the West--and another thousand years in the East.
Someone needs to point out that this is hardly the first virus that will work on OS X.
All of the older unix viruses still work just fine. Remember the honor system viruses, which informed you that you were now obligated to delete a few files at random and then send the virus on?
>Why do I need that power? Because software up until >now has depended on Moore's law, and require twice >the processing power every six months to do the >equivalent job at equivalent speeds.
Well, if you *insist* on continuing to run Microsoft Word . . .
It definitely wasn't a ^2 box, as the missing keyboard on the unit inmmediately would have sent me ballistic:)
The other box just doden't look like the right shape--it seems to me that the fifle came assembled, whereas it would need to have been disassembled to fit in a box that shape--or maybe that's just a detail I don't recall. I do, thouh, seem to recall (but not with clarity) that the box was longer than it was wide (but then, this was over 20 years ago:)
hawk, wondering how to peek without ending up having to bring several big boxes back home
> Devastation is a noun, like "unique" that does lend itself to qualification.
1. "Unique" is an adjective, not a nount.
2. "Unique" does not lend itself to qualification. Either there is one ("uni-") or there is not. There are no "degrees" of uniqueness. The use phrases such as "very unique" and "somewhat unique" are simply signs of "somewhat illiterate."
Then, suddently, a couple of years ago, a command that had deleted cells for over a decate got remapped to "insert hyperlink"--in a spreadsheet, for crying out loud!
wasn't it George Carlin who proposed issuing darts to drivers, so that you could shoot them at obnoxious drivers, and anyone accumulating three "*** darts" would automatically have his license revoked?
That would be awkward. This is in the piles of stuff still in myt father's garage and shed, which he is actively trying to move into my garage. If I pull it out while I'm there, He'll en d up cutting another deal with my wife that lands it in my van for the return trip.
I can tell you that I bought it in about 1980, and bought it in an electronic surplus shop for $20, foolishly taking it for an Oddessey^2.
There are, of course, a pair of 2600 in my garage, one of which is slowly being cannibalized for parts, along with spare joysticks for parts, I forget how many dozens (hundreds?) of cartridges, and a handful of older games of similar vintage ( I wonder if any of the Atari pinball games still work. Oddly, they tend to lose their video paddles (blink clean off the screen) as they age.
Anyway, I *am* thinking of the Odyssy 2, not the Odyssy^2. Two different machines.
The Odyssy 2 came with screen overlays, two controllers, and a light-rifle. It had verticle, horizontal, and english controllers.
Inside are about ten daughterboards with various circuits, such as the flip-flops.
WIred with the right card, it took time for the player pieces to come to rest, which was used for the roullette game, amongh others.
Oh, and the shooting gallery. We, of course, realized that rather than using the delay, we could put up the ski overlay instead, and one player could ski while the other sniped:)
There's only one word for someone who gets nostalgic about a 7800: "Newbie!"
:)
hawk, who has an Odessy 2, whose "programming" cards rewired the discrete logic of the machine. [iirc, even the flip-flop cards were made with discrete transistors!]
All these years, and still the only game that matters.
3d? 2d? Bah! The animation is done with ASCII, just as God meant things to be.
Of course, it does have new-fangled developments, like navigation with the arrow pads for those not bright enough to use vi instead of emacs, and the iintroduction of color is still questionable . . .
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Should I point out that the article doesn't say that any were confiscated, but rather that she inquired before taking action, and that he replied that they wanted any confiscated copies returned?
hawk
Uhm, uh . . . :)
In that case, you won't be around long enough to complain, anyway . . .
hawk
No, it wouldn't.
The linux kernel s fresh code, and generally shipped with the GNU utilities. Neither the kernel nor the gnu stuff descends from the code, whereas the origin of the BSD's is a source license to the old code.
While the BSDs aren't counted as Unix by trademark, and it wouldn't really make sense to count them as such in this study, they *are* the actual unix code. Linux is not.
hawk
>Seeing as Dell doesn't force you to buy an operating
>system with their servers, why did you bother buying
>them in the first place?
They're available with different options when you buy them with MS Windows. When we bought a Dell server for my workstation at the University, we ended up having to buy it with Windows, as we couldn't get some of the parts we wanted without. They actually have (had) separate configuration pages.
Since the first thing we were going to due was install FreeBSD, it didn't matter which it came with; just what hardware we could have shipped with it. It never booted Windows . . .
I am an attorney, but this is not legal advice. If you get your legal advice on slashdot, rush to a psychiatrist.
It *used* to work that way, which came up in one of the antitrust suits. MS had made it cheaper to license windows for all machines than to pay for each machine on which it was installed, pretty much killing off DR-DOS.
They can no longer enter that type of license agreement for all machines sold by a company, but they can still enter it for a particular line of machines, which is why you see some lines that come with windows, and other with a choice of machines.
hawk, esq.
The BSD's are real Unix code, descended from old Unix but sanitized of offending code after the lawsuit.
They do not, however, have the Unix trademark.
hawk
(but it doesn't matter here)
I actually have a small hardbound book that came with a game, with the game taking up where the book ended.
I dont' recall the game as keeping my interest, though.
hawk
The Roman Empire was a military dictatorship from the beginning (The Imperator was the military commander).
That's the First Century BC (I'll leave it to historians to quibble about whether the empire started with Caesar overstaying his term as Dictator or the crowning of Augustus), and it lasted the Fifth Century AD in the West--and another thousand years in the East.
That's a very long time to wait . . .
hawk
All of the older unix viruses still work just fine.
Remember the honor system viruses, which informed you that you were now obligated to delete a few files at random and then send the virus on?
hawk
>now has depended on Moore's law, and require twice
>the processing power every six months to do the
>equivalent job at equivalent speeds.
Well, if you *insist* on continuing to run Microsoft Word . . .
hawk
A cloth surface such as a pants leg?
One of the flaws in my late model Acer is that the air intake sits directly over the natural place for a leg to sit underneath it . . .
hawk
Not uppercuts, but Umbellas of Mass Destruction. These are the primary source of toxic rain . . .
hawk
It definitely wasn't a ^2 box, as the missing keyboard on the unit inmmediately would have sent me ballistic :)
:)
The other box just doden't look like the right shape--it seems to me that the fifle came assembled, whereas it would need to have been disassembled to fit in a box that shape--or maybe that's just a detail I don't recall. I do, thouh, seem to recall (but not with clarity) that the box was longer than it was wide (but then, this was over 20 years ago
hawk, wondering how to peek without ending up having to bring several big boxes back home
hawk
> Devastation is a noun, like "unique" that does lend itself to qualification.
1. "Unique" is an adjective, not a nount.
2. "Unique" does not lend itself to qualification. Either there is one ("uni-") or there is not. There are no "degrees" of uniqueness. The use phrases such as "very unique" and "somewhat unique" are simply signs of "somewhat illiterate."
hawk
It deleted cells, rather than clearing them.
Then, suddently, a couple of years ago, a command that had deleted cells for over a decate got remapped to "insert hyperlink"--in a spreadsheet, for crying out loud!
hawk
wasn't it George Carlin who proposed issuing darts to drivers, so that you could shoot them at obnoxious drivers, and anyone accumulating three "*** darts" would automatically have his license revoked?
hawk
That would be awkward. This is in the piles of stuff still in myt father's garage and shed, which he is actively trying to move into my garage. If I pull it out while I'm there, He'll en d up cutting another deal with my wife that lands it in my van for the return trip.
:)
I can tell you that I bought it in about 1980, and bought it in an electronic surplus shop for $20, foolishly taking it for an Oddessey^2.
Hmm, can't read *with* my glasses, either
hawk
The e is missing because I was typing without my glasses and the keys sometimes stick.
I add the 2 because that is what is on the machine and the box that it came in.
That 2 was what led me to think that I was picking up a ^2 . . . got it home and found otherwise.
hawk
There are, of course, a pair of 2600 in my garage, one of which is slowly being cannibalized for parts, along with spare joysticks for parts, I forget how many dozens (hundreds?) of cartridges, and a handful of older games of similar vintage ( I wonder if any of the Atari pinball games still work. Oddly, they tend to lose their video paddles (blink clean off the screen) as they age.
hawk
No, I'd never use dorktype . . .
Anyway, I *am* thinking of the Odyssy 2, not the Odyssy^2. Two different machines.
The Odyssy 2 came with screen overlays, two controllers, and a light-rifle. It had verticle, horizontal, and english controllers.
Inside are about ten daughterboards with various circuits, such as the flip-flops.
WIred with the right card, it took time for the player pieces to come to rest, which was used for the roullette game, amongh others.
Oh, and the shooting gallery. We, of course, realized that rather than using the delay, we could put up the ski overlay instead, and one player could ski while the other sniped
hawk
hawk, who has an Odessy 2, whose "programming" cards rewired the discrete logic of the machine. [iirc, even the flip-flop cards were made with discrete transistors!]
is nethack!
All these years, and still the only game that matters.
3d? 2d? Bah! The animation is done with ASCII, just as God meant things to be.
Of course, it does have new-fangled developments, like navigation with the arrow pads for those not bright enough to use vi instead of emacs, and the iintroduction of color is still questionable . . .
hawk
hawk, ducking and running
. . . the secret ballot.
You have enough there to tie the paper ballot to the voter . . .
hawk