The difference betwen the cost of the parts and the cost of the car is an order of magnitude. Apple *is* willing to sell at that price; they're not willing to sell below the proportional cost of R&D.
And, no, GM *wouldn't* be in trouble for only leasing their vehicles. They are not a monopoly, or even close.
To be clear here: Apple did *not* refuse to license the OS, thought that is how it is commonly reported. Apple *did* insist on massively higher royalties on high-end clones, which was not economically feasible for the cloners. The problem was that apple was doing (almost) all the R&D, including the motherboards for the high-end machines. The cloners just weren't paying their portion of the costs.
And while I'm at it--suggesting that Apple should be forced to sell a piece of their product a la carte is kind of like suggesting that GM should be forced to sell cars without engine or transmission to whoever wants one . . .
again, it's commerce that will drive this. Compare the amount of commerce nationws have with the US, and that they have with England and those that share its abusive spellings.
Also, even if the british misspellings were to survive (which is not unlikely, given that they are mutually intelligible), the grammar and vocabulary would remain that used in commerce with the US.
American english will change more (err, maybe it can't--it's already a hodge-podge!). International English will become more static (it has nothing to gain by straying from a common reference point). Hmm, consider how words b ecome fixed in the law,long after their use in common discourse--with the meaning well established, it would be reckless of a lawyer to use the modern vernacular rather than a word whose meaning has been defined in the law over hundreds of years.
Not so much "american english," but the english as currently used in commerce--which happens to be pretty much late twentieth century american english. It's not because it's spoken here, but because it's widely used in commerce today.
Keeping common english misspellings:) wouldn't surprise me at all. (though I do believe that it is not quite cricket to horde all those excess "u"'s while folks in serbia go days without vowels . ..).
It won't stay around because it is spoien in the US, but because it is used in commerce. Much the same as Latin stayed for centuries after the Romans were done, or French stayed for centuries after France was irrelevant (1067, I guess:)
However, it appears to me that biliningualfamilies keep a language for family, and another for the world/external culture/whatever. The latter can be learned for the same purposes in school.
Cuban americans tend to actually be bilingual, sliping betwen languages without thgouth or hesitation. This is starting to appear in mexican americans.
By a strange set of circumstances, I'm teaching fifth grade this year (for crying out loud, I was calling about my kids' tuition, and somehow ended up maneuvered into a conversation with the principal . . . !), with about half my students being hispanic. Several can correct my occasional spanish utterances (though, occasionally, they're wrong--the other day, I found that they didn't recognize the plural of "shut your mouth").
Anyway, we're currently seeing a young generation that actually uses both at home. Many of my students speak *much* better english than their parents.
While I'm at it, the usual criticism of americans and language is a bit off, for the reasons originally given. People in other counties tend to speak their own language, another language, and English. Americans tend to speak their own language, take (and forget) another language, and English (currently the same as their own language).
In all fairness, Unix didn't start all that secure. There was a default assumption of trust. Reasonable at first, but the environment changed over time.
American and British English remain, for the most part, mutually intelligible. They have largely drifted together.
However, that has happened with a large english speaking population.
I'm expecting it to split over time into an international english, which will be largely today's american english, and whatever the english speaking countries drift into speaking. I suppose that they *could* be enough of an anchor to slow the mutation of the language, but I doubt it. I'm even more skeptical of the idea that the now established international english would follow the changes of the native speakers--there's no reason for a french-speaker and a korean speaker, both of whom speak english as an international language, to change their english due to americans or brits.
I forget whether it was after I switched from altavista (which rapidly lost value when it stopped being an alpha demo project) to google, but searching for LaTeX, wrap-around, and figure yielded some rather shocking results. It took a moment to figure hout how my search had been hijacked . . .
yep, they tend to get silent fairly quickly. Sometimes they just don't start up, sometimes they make one final scream after being thrown against the wall, sometimes . . .
In some newsgroups, there were enough people that consistantly filed abuse reports about spam, trolls, and other abuse (usually to screeches of "netcop!"), and are still useful today.
For the most part, though, the "Imminent death of the usenet" did indeed happen.
if memory serves, both were disbarred for other reasons.
hawk
Re:Sometimes, we're just worried about students
on
Textbooks With EULAs
·
· Score: 1
When the only difference is the order of the questions, we get just as angry as you do:)
Unfortunately, the older version rarely stays in print. Sometimes, there were enough to run on used books for a while, but eventually the book store tells you that they won't be able to get enough copies.
Unfortunately, M'Bungu's widow and son keep sharing 20% of the fortune they're removing from the country, and these spam-buyers are always flush with cash!
Slashdot Mirror
hawk
hawk
The difference betwen the cost of the parts and the cost of the car is an order of magnitude. Apple *is* willing to sell at that price; they're not willing to sell below the proportional cost of R&D.
And, no, GM *wouldn't* be in trouble for only leasing their vehicles. They are not a monopoly, or even close.
hawk
To be clear here: Apple did *not* refuse to license the OS, thought that is how it is commonly reported. Apple *did* insist on massively higher royalties on high-end clones, which was not economically feasible for the cloners.
The problem was that apple was doing (almost) all the R&D, including the motherboards for the high-end machines. The cloners just weren't paying their portion of the costs.
And while I'm at it--suggesting that Apple should be forced to sell a piece of their product a la carte is kind of like suggesting that GM should be forced to sell cars without engine or transmission to whoever wants one . . .
hawk
Yes, as a matter of fact, I *am* attached to my MacPortable! Put it into the "cold, dead, fingers" category.
And, yes, I *have* used it for internet acces, though I was mumbling something about Model-T's and the Information Superhighway . . .
They're actually kind of hard to buy, as it's rare to find an owner that will give his up.
hawk, off to find a soldering gun to replace the fuse and fire it up
If you have no talent, yet belong to a band, the natural conclusion . . .
hawk
hawk
and just how long will that nice conical stack stay conical when he starts swimming in it?
And just when did it change to gold from primarily banknotes with lots of coins?
hawk
*harumph*
hawk
again, it's commerce that will drive this. Compare the amount of commerce nationws have with the US, and that they have with England and those that share its abusive spellings.
Also, even if the british misspellings were to survive (which is not unlikely, given that they are mutually intelligible), the grammar and vocabulary would remain that used in commerce with the US.
hawk
American english will change more (err, maybe it can't--it's already a hodge-podge!). International English will become more static (it has nothing to gain by straying from a common reference point). Hmm, consider how words b ecome fixed in the law,long after their use in common discourse--with the meaning well established, it would be reckless of a lawyer to use the modern vernacular rather than a word whose meaning has been defined in the law over hundreds of years.
hawk, esq.
Not so much "american english," but the english as currently used in commerce--which happens to be pretty much late twentieth century american english. It's not because it's spoken here, but because it's widely used in commerce today.
:) wouldn't surprise me at all. (though I do believe that it is not quite cricket to horde all those excess "u"'s while folks in serbia go days without vowels . . .).
:)
Keeping common english misspellings
It won't stay around because it is spoien in the US, but because it is used in commerce. Much the same as Latin stayed for centuries after the Romans were done, or French stayed for centuries after France was irrelevant (1067, I guess
hawk
That's true; I wouldn't dispute the observations.
However, it appears to me that biliningualfamilies keep a language for family, and another for the world/external culture/whatever. The latter can be learned for the same purposes in school.
Cuban americans tend to actually be bilingual, sliping betwen languages without thgouth or hesitation. This is starting to appear in mexican americans.
By a strange set of circumstances, I'm teaching fifth grade this year (for crying out loud, I was calling about my kids' tuition, and somehow ended up maneuvered into a conversation with the principal . . . !), with about half my students being hispanic. Several can correct my occasional spanish utterances (though, occasionally, they're wrong--the other day, I found that they didn't recognize the plural of "shut your mouth").
Anyway, we're currently seeing a young generation that actually uses both at home. Many of my students speak *much* better english than their parents.
While I'm at it, the usual criticism of americans and language is a bit off, for the reasons originally given. People in other counties tend to speak their own language, another language, and English. Americans tend to speak their own language, take (and forget) another language, and English (currently the same as their own language).
hawk
>>I hate to break it to you, but that's a lazy Americanism.
>I'll have to take your word for it being unique to America...>>
Don't; the anonymous dork (err, anonymous coward) is wong (s their grammr trolls tend to be).
"I have never" and "I have not even" mean different things, rather than being correct and incorrect.
But then, avoiding 14 year olds is one of the reasons I have my thresholdset to 2 . . .
hawk
The context was security . . . unix security came long after interconnection . . .
hawk
>it will be imperfectly implemented _on purpose_
How can you say such a thing? Word Perfect and Wordstar always did a beautiful job at trading documents.
Oh, wait . . .
(never mind)
hawk
In all fairness, Unix didn't start all that secure. There was a default assumption of trust. Reasonable at first, but the environment changed over time.
hawk
American and British English remain, for the most part, mutually intelligible. They have largely drifted together.
However, that has happened with a large english speaking population.
I'm expecting it to split over time into an international english, which will be largely today's american english, and whatever the english speaking countries drift into speaking. I suppose that they *could* be enough of an anchor to slow the mutation of the language, but I doubt it. I'm even more skeptical of the idea that the now established international english would follow the changes of the native speakers--there's no reason for a french-speaker and a korean speaker, both of whom speak english as an international language, to change their english due to americans or brits.
hawk
hawk
I forget whether it was after I switched from altavista (which rapidly lost value when it stopped being an alpha demo project) to google, but searching for LaTeX, wrap-around, and figure yielded some rather shocking results. It took a moment to figure hout how my search had been hijacked . . .
hawk
yep, they tend to get silent fairly quickly. Sometimes they just don't start up, sometimes they make one final scream after being thrown against the wall, sometimes . . .
hawk
In some newsgroups, there were enough people that consistantly filed abuse reports about spam, trolls, and other abuse (usually to screeches of "netcop!"), and are still useful today.
For the most part, though, the "Imminent death of the usenet" did indeed happen.
hawk
if memory serves, both were disbarred for other reasons.
hawk
Unfortunately, the older version rarely stays in print. Sometimes, there were enough to run on used books for a while, but eventually the book store tells you that they won't be able to get enough copies.
hawk
hawk