It is my opinion that MS isn't a monopoly, and I hold this opinion for three primary reasons:
It's not a matter of opinion, it's been decided by a federal court and upheld unanimously by the court of appeals. You're barking up the wrong tree.
a. They cannot, despite sustained efforts, control prices of desktop operating systems or application level software.
You're living on another planet. Over the years the price of Microsoft's consumer OS has climbed steadily. It now costs more than a year's income for some people.
I don't think it gets more fair than this. KIllustrator is grossly in violation of Adobe's trademark. Slashdotters all agreed on this on the previous article.
No we didn't. "Illustrator" is a normal English word, and as such, not trademarkable. When did all we Slashdotters agree that having enough money changes that simple fact? --
Not at all. It's only off if Adobe stops trying to own the word "illustrator" which properly belongs to all of us, not Adobe. Until that happens I am all for renaming Killustrator as "Killer", porting it to GTK and releasing it for Windows. --
And of course, it wouldn't be possible without the zealtroy and undying hardwork of MS's number #1 and possible saviour from breakup, Linux. Congratulations, MS 0wnz j00u.
Heh, well we need Microsoft too, without them people wouldn't be able to see the distinction between good and evil quite so clearly. Do you think there's any chance Linux would have grown at this rate without these guys being the way they are? --
Float trial balloon with extremely controversial idea.
1. Observe public reaction.
2. If people are sufficiently upset to
3. consider switching to Linux, tone down the idea and go back to 1, looking like the public-sensitive hero. Else implement the idea and make a bundle of money.
4. Go to 1.
Excellent algorithm, if they keep it up they'll scare millions of new users over into our little world. But hey, whatever they feel works for them, right? --
So, you're oing to write the app that will topple Photoshop and Illustrator from their respective thrones? The usual means? Come on!
Fortunately, it's already written, it's called Killustrator. What we do is: rename it to "Killer", port it to native Win32 and release it on Windows. Not only will that cost Adobe millions of dollrs, it will be fun, save a lot of money for luckless Windows users, introduce a lot of new Windows programmers to the way of open source, and teach the PHB's who did this a lesson.
How many individual/. readers have coded an Adobe product out of the marketplace?
Who say anything about individual? I'm not one, I'm hundreds or thousands.
It's Adobe's fault for choosing a generic word as the name of their product. You can trademark "Adobe Illustrator" but not "Illustrator", that's just a fact. OK, well that doesn't stop these assholes from trying to turn the oversight of some incompetent clerk at the PTO into a piece of ill-gotten intellectual property for themselves by leaning on some defenceless open source programmer who's just trying to make the world better for everybody. Personally, this makes me sick and I for one have lost every bit of respect for Adobe. Can I translate that feeling into action? You bet I can, and by the usual means: coding them out of existence. --
Illustrator is a generic word, can't be trademarked. They can however act like assholes and generally just be bad corporate citizens, making life miserable for some little guy just trying to deo something good for the world. Personally, I no longer give a flying fuck about Abobe and wish them the worst.
There are simply not enough people who will BUY (that's right, pay for the software) the linux games, since almost everyone and his brother uses windows to run games. Because developing a game takes a lot of money, when there is no market, it's not a very wise thing to do.
Just remember that a short time ago there was no market for Linux, now the source code alone is worth a billion dollars. The key to everything we do is doing it for love, fame and pride of craftsmanship, not money. That applies to games as well. Look at Counterstrike to see where the future is. Sure, there will always be a place for big media in the gaming world, but the bottom line is, we don't give a shit, we're going to develop all the games we want ourselves. The smartest thing EA could do is jump in now so the open game projects don't grow as fast as they're growing. But they're not smart, and I for one prefer it this way. --
Wouldn't it be nice to have the Mozilla code be packaged into "components" of a size somewhere between 100K and 1MB!?!? An installer should then be able to download only the parts that have changed from build to build....
(Offcourse this is a feature that brings advantages to those users of the nightly builds, only - I assume that, every of these parts changes from release to release quita a bit)
Your post should not have been modded down. Moderators, remember you are supposed to be commenting on the quality of the post, not expressing your agreement or disagreement with it.
As far as incremental download goes, that is a packaging issue and not something the mozilla development team should be expending time and energy on. If you want to set up your own mirror to offer incremental downloads, go ahead;-) --
My wife has switched to Mozilla, that says a lot. One week now and zero crashes.
However, somewhat to my amazement, the keyboard input is unable to keep up with typing speed on a 233 MHz machine. It takes some talent to design such a topheavy keyboard input stack.
Some browsers (opera), recognizing the fact that crashes do happen, are now saving the window/url chain state so they can resume more or less where they left off. Mozilla isn't doing this, and should. Besides taking the sting out of crashes, it lets you shut down without worrying about losing all your windows. This is a big deal, for a small amount of programming effort.
The bottom line for me is, the Lizard is here, and here to stay.
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"Nothing really insightful here, but I personally hate to lie"
Yeah I did too. But after going through alot of registations on the internet, I got used to it.
I never did, I just just didn't have anything to do with those companies/sites that tried to force me to do such things, and it never hurt me a bit. Oh, but you do have to quit programming for windows to do that, that's a choice each programmer has to make for themselves.
So there are your options: descend to Microsoft's level by taking part in the lie, or quit and do something else. Fortunately, that something else is quite a lot of fun, never mind the morally correct part.;-) --
when they hear PostGres, the name translates to a big fat "huh?". But if you take that software, gussy it up, and slap the word RedHat on it, and you instantly change that to "oh, RedHat's database".
I need to be 100% clear on this. Is RedHat essentially repackaging some other group's code and selling it as their own with some token of financial support to the original coding team?
Err, like Mandrake did with Redhat's distro, except without the financial support?
I was under the impression (yesterday? 2 days ago?) that they would be starting a DB project from scratch. If what I'm saying is correct, why is this fucking steaming pile even being mentioned? All they are going to do is wrap a customized installer around someone else's hard work.
Earth to troll... This is what you're *supposed* to do with open source. Think, you can do the same thing with any of Redhat's GPL code, go ahead. Just give us something more than hot air. --
"Right. I don't suppose you've read Cathedral and the Bazaar, used Fetchmail, or configured a kernel with CML2"
Ohhh.. who's life would be complete without reading the Cathedral and the Bazaar? I looked over it, about as usefull as your average k5 diatribe.
And no, I don't use fetchmail, I don't need it. I know how to configure sendmail. Even I had a use, I still wouldn't. I wouldn't touch code written by those slimy fingers. Its not like I couldn't just write my own. (I've written my own telnet, HTTP, FTP, POP3, IRC and Gnutella clients, as well as an HTTPd server. A fetchmail clone would take me like 4 days)
And no, I haven't used CML2 to configure my kernel.
I'm not surprised. You know something about playing with Perl, and to create your impressive resume you used the Perl libraries. In other words I was right on all counts, including the question of whether you have a clue. Your main talent seems to be character assassination. Microsoft needs you, they are looking for Perl programmers and people skilled in character assassination. We don't need you. --
give them 3 or 4 more years, if they're around still, then pat them on the back... Right now, they've just burned through millions in cash, and earned less on their sales than if that money was in bonds. not very successful.
And scared the crap out of billg, hence the uptick in number of astroturfers, like you, on Slashdot. The beauty of the whole thing is, now you guys have to take the "impossible to build a business on open source" FUD and stick it where the sun don't shine, for at least the next 3 months:-D --
Well, for me, the primary reason for wishing ill on VA Linux is Eric S. Raymond. The man is a parasite on "Open Source", although he seems to think he's their savior. Raymond holds a seat on VA's board, and his fortunes roll with it. I have no ill will toward VA in general. But I delight in seeing Eric Raymond eat his "I'm rich now ha ha" words. As his once $35 on-paper million dollar fortune drops to below a meg.
Right. I don't suppose you've read Cathedral and the Bazaar, used Fetchmail, or configured a kernel with CML2? No, I didn't think so. Sorry, but you don't have a fucking clue. The same goes for the 4 moderators who thought you did. --
I submitted a story about 3 weeks ago about Linux and a Linux project being literally headline news (front page, top story) in the Nikkei Keizai Shinbun (Financial Times of Japan, the most widely read business newspaper). The story was handled very cluelessly by Slashdot, and probably passed under everyones radar as a result.
X15 is still 2-3 times faster than Tux 2.0, and Cheetha (from MIT) is 2-3 ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE faster than either.
However sincere you may be, I don't think you should be spouting on subjects you are less than fully informed about. When X15 was
first released the author claimed it was a slightly faster than TUX, which turned out to be true, even after Ingo Molnar worked together with Fabio Riccardi, X15's author, to resolve some small standards compliance issues. However exciting X15 may be as a piece of software engineering, it is
not a replacement for TUX unless its restrictive licence is changed. Looking into my magic mirror, I see half a dozen busy teams of geeks working feverishly on GPL'd/Apache licenced high-performance user space http servers.
It's clear the future of http is in user space, not the kernel.
As for "Cheetha", I don't know a thing about it, except that it is 2-3 orders of magnitude slower than you claimed.
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BTW, it looks to me like MS' campaign is kind of working. A lot of my not-into Linux friends ask me questions lately about the issues of using Linux at their work - the FUD is spreading! I hope it really is countered with articles like this one in the main stream press.
Before this, your friends wouldn't have known or talked about Linux at all. This is progress for us. As they say, "call me anything you want, but call me". What a gift from Microsoft, we could never afford to buy this kind of free publicity. --
The flipside of this for commercial vendors though is that Ogg Vorbis is horribly GPL encumbered.
That's absolutely silly. If you acutally bothered to look at the site, you would have found:
The encoders, decoders, plugins, and tools at vorbis.com are under the GPL (GNU Public License) and the libraries are under the business-friendly BSD license.
And from the FAQ:
The OggVorbis specification is in the public domain. It is completely free for commercial or noncommercial use. That means that commercial developers may independently write OggVorbis software which is compatible with the specification for no charge and without restrictions of any kind. However, developers that wish to use the open source software we have written must adhere to certain rules.
In other words, you can do what you damm well want, just don't rip off the tools, write your own. This is made dead simple by having the libraries available and the open source code available to learn from. Sheesh. --
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The best Windows based ripper/encoder is
CDex. It's small, light, fast, fully featured and free. Hard to think of a better combination of features (yes, it's also open source, but that's beside the point).
Err... being open source, doesn't it give you a nice warm-n-fuzzy knowing it will *stay* free? --
Slashdot Mirror
It's not a matter of opinion, it's been decided by a federal court and upheld unanimously by the court of appeals. You're barking up the wrong tree.
a. They cannot, despite sustained efforts, control prices of desktop operating systems or application level software.
You're living on another planet. Over the years the price of Microsoft's consumer OS has climbed steadily. It now costs more than a year's income for some people.
Feh.
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No we didn't. "Illustrator" is a normal English word, and as such, not trademarkable. When did all we Slashdotters agree that having enough money changes that simple fact?
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Not at all. It's only off if Adobe stops trying to own the word "illustrator" which properly belongs to all of us, not Adobe. Until that happens I am all for renaming Killustrator as "Killer", porting it to GTK and releasing it for Windows.
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Heh, well we need Microsoft too, without them people wouldn't be able to see the distinction between good and evil quite so clearly. Do you think there's any chance Linux would have grown at this rate without these guys being the way they are?
--
Float trial balloon with extremely controversial idea.
1. Observe public reaction.
2. If people are sufficiently upset to
3. consider switching to Linux, tone down the idea and go back to 1, looking like the public-sensitive hero. Else implement the idea and make a bundle of money.
4. Go to 1.
Excellent algorithm, if they keep it up they'll scare millions of new users over into our little world. But hey, whatever they feel works for them, right?
--
Fortunately, it's already written, it's called Killustrator. What we do is: rename it to "Killer", port it to native Win32 and release it on Windows. Not only will that cost Adobe millions of dollrs, it will be fun, save a lot of money for luckless Windows users, introduce a lot of new Windows programmers to the way of open source, and teach the PHB's who did this a lesson.
How many individual /. readers have coded an Adobe product out of the marketplace?
Who say anything about individual? I'm not one, I'm hundreds or thousands.
Oh how I love /. arrogance!
Oh, how I love astroturfers
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Keeping their silence about it amounts to the same thing.
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It's Adobe's fault for choosing a generic word as the name of their product. You can trademark "Adobe Illustrator" but not "Illustrator", that's just a fact. OK, well that doesn't stop these assholes from trying to turn the oversight of some incompetent clerk at the PTO into a piece of ill-gotten intellectual property for themselves by leaning on some defenceless open source programmer who's just trying to make the world better for everybody. Personally, this makes me sick and I for one have lost every bit of respect for Adobe. Can I translate that feeling into action? You bet I can, and by the usual means: coding them out of existence.
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Was it worth it, guys?
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#warning this program considered harmful
#ifndef foo
#define foo 0
int main (void) { return 0; }
#endif
#if (foo == 0)
#undef foo
#define foo 1
#include "foo.c"
#elif (foo == 1)
#undef foo
#define foo 2
#include "foo.c"
#elif (foo == 2)
#undef foo
#define foo 3
#include "foo.c"
#endif
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Just remember that a short time ago there was no market for Linux, now the source code alone is worth a billion dollars. The key to everything we do is doing it for love, fame and pride of craftsmanship, not money. That applies to games as well. Look at Counterstrike to see where the future is. Sure, there will always be a place for big media in the gaming world, but the bottom line is, we don't give a shit, we're going to develop all the games we want ourselves. The smartest thing EA could do is jump in now so the open game projects don't grow as fast as they're growing. But they're not smart, and I for one prefer it this way.
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The release notes *still* don't document how to install Mozilla properly on a multi-user system.
I just put the binary tree in /opt, permit the whole thing read everybody, and put this script in /bin:
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Wouldn't it be nice to have the Mozilla code be packaged into "components" of a size somewhere between 100K and 1MB!?!? An installer should then be able to download only the parts that have changed from build to build....
(Offcourse this is a feature that brings advantages to those users of the nightly builds, only - I assume that, every of these parts changes from release to release quita a bit)
Your post should not have been modded down. Moderators, remember you are supposed to be commenting on the quality of the post, not expressing your agreement or disagreement with it.
As far as incremental download goes, that is a packaging issue and not something the mozilla development team should be expending time and energy on. If you want to set up your own mirror to offer incremental downloads, go ahead ;-)
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However, somewhat to my amazement, the keyboard input is unable to keep up with typing speed on a 233 MHz machine. It takes some talent to design such a topheavy keyboard input stack.
Some browsers (opera), recognizing the fact that crashes do happen, are now saving the window/url chain state so they can resume more or less where they left off. Mozilla isn't doing this, and should. Besides taking the sting out of crashes, it lets you shut down without worrying about losing all your windows. This is a big deal, for a small amount of programming effort.
The bottom line for me is, the Lizard is here, and here to stay.
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Yeah I did too. But after going through alot of registations on the internet, I got used to it.
I never did, I just just didn't have anything to do with those companies/sites that tried to force me to do such things, and it never hurt me a bit. Oh, but you do have to quit programming for windows to do that, that's a choice each programmer has to make for themselves.
So there are your options: descend to Microsoft's level by taking part in the lie, or quit and do something else. Fortunately, that something else is quite a lot of fun, never mind the morally correct part. ;-)
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Yep. And why not call it "Redhat SQL Server?".
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Err, like Mandrake did with Redhat's distro, except without the financial support?
I was under the impression (yesterday? 2 days ago?) that they would be starting a DB project from scratch. If what I'm saying is correct, why is this fucking steaming pile even being mentioned? All they are going to do is wrap a customized installer around someone else's hard work.
Earth to troll... This is what you're *supposed* to do with open source. Think, you can do the same thing with any of Redhat's GPL code, go ahead. Just give us something more than hot air.
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Ohhh.. who's life would be complete without reading the Cathedral and the Bazaar? I looked over it, about as usefull as your average k5 diatribe. And no, I don't use fetchmail, I don't need it. I know how to configure sendmail. Even I had a use, I still wouldn't. I wouldn't touch code written by those slimy fingers. Its not like I couldn't just write my own. (I've written my own telnet, HTTP, FTP, POP3, IRC and Gnutella clients, as well as an HTTPd server. A fetchmail clone would take me like 4 days) And no, I haven't used CML2 to configure my kernel.
I'm not surprised. You know something about playing with Perl, and to create your impressive resume you used the Perl libraries. In other words I was right on all counts, including the question of whether you have a clue. Your main talent seems to be character assassination. Microsoft needs you, they are looking for Perl programmers and people skilled in character assassination. We don't need you.
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And scared the crap out of billg, hence the uptick in number of astroturfers, like you, on Slashdot. The beauty of the whole thing is, now you guys have to take the "impossible to build a business on open source" FUD and stick it where the sun don't shine, for at least the next 3 months :-D
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Right. I don't suppose you've read Cathedral and the Bazaar, used Fetchmail, or configured a kernel with CML2? No, I didn't think so. Sorry, but you don't have a fucking clue. The same goes for the 4 moderators who thought you did.
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Care to provide a link?
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However sincere you may be, I don't think you should be spouting on subjects you are less than fully informed about. When X15 was first released the author claimed it was a slightly faster than TUX, which turned out to be true, even after Ingo Molnar worked together with Fabio Riccardi, X15's author, to resolve some small standards compliance issues. However exciting X15 may be as a piece of software engineering, it is not a replacement for TUX unless its restrictive licence is changed. Looking into my magic mirror, I see half a dozen busy teams of geeks working feverishly on GPL'd/Apache licenced high-performance user space http servers. It's clear the future of http is in user space, not the kernel.
As for "Cheetha", I don't know a thing about it, except that it is 2-3 orders of magnitude slower than you claimed.
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Before this, your friends wouldn't have known or talked about Linux at all. This is progress for us. As they say, "call me anything you want, but call me". What a gift from Microsoft, we could never afford to buy this kind of free publicity.
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That's absolutely silly. If you acutally bothered to look at the site, you would have found:
And from the FAQ: In other words, you can do what you damm well want, just don't rip off the tools, write your own. This is made dead simple by having the libraries available and the open source code available to learn from. Sheesh.--
Err... being open source, doesn't it give you a nice warm-n-fuzzy knowing it will *stay* free?
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