Yes programming with multiple threads can be tricky, but there is a reason more apps are using more threads. It's to take advantage of the new hardware coming down the pike. IMO it gives webkit more longevity.
Multi-threading is not some "new fangled gadget" and this attitude, "The monolith is king because it's simple", is just nonsense. Some things require more complex code to take all the advantages it can get. A browser is one of those applications.
This actually brings up a great point. When I worked for a government agency converting their paper forms to digital we were required to accept the paper form and enter them in manually. I set up an OCR process for the data entry team but every single page scanned in had to be checked for correctness when compared to the original. It was a very tedious process and showed the limitations of OCR software. This was just a few years ago.
So scanning them in using OCR is just one step, proof-reading the results is another. Is Google willing to do this for all scanned data? If so then more power to them.
This is a funny ha ha right? Because it's like saying we should do away with new glass displays in airplanes because they make pilots lazy.
Apologies if it's a joke but every time someone makes a coding error someone on here has to pull out the "back in my day we were men and coded without errors because the system exploded!" card. That's nonsense. Garbage in garbage out. A tool is only as good as it's user. It's the responsibility of the developer to use the tool properly.
Only if they work together to make it higher than is fair to the consumer, aka price fixing. Proving that is always the hard part and it's futile to speculate.
But this is exactly why I use prepay with t-mobile and own my device. I looked around and made a choice, then stick to that plan. This sounds like one of those caveat emptor situations to me. The government simply cannot play nanny to every dumb fool that comes down the pike.
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Google could never bring enough might to bear to claim complete and utter isolation from national laws just by motoring into international waters. Any country with might would simply seize control if provoked. It's really hard to fall back on "law" when you are facing the very same people that write them.
I'm curious, why is spawning 100 threads a flawed design? You give no context what so ever. Thread count is hardly a reliable measurement of design without some context.
This seems to be a focus on premature optimization IMO. I understand this issue is important, but isn't making sure it's feature correct first more important? Think about it from Microsoft's perspective, what is more important to the typical end-user? Keyword being "typical" and not "geek" like most of us here.
If it was up to me the focus would be on sandboxing, Javascript performance improvements, privacy, and my favorite - standards compliance. Then when all of that is out the door let's focus on getting it slimmed down. This would be the rational way. The tried and true development way.
But smoking does effect them. It may hurt them. They don't carry on "normal lives" in the sense that they may get cancer or emphysema, etc.
I don't think "addiction", in the vague sense that something dominates your life, becomes an issue until it harms you. But that's just my opinion. Arguing the meaning of the word itself is kind of pointless. We all know what people mean when they say "addiction", they mean that it somehow is hurting your life.
Well go check a history book and search the origins of the internet. The claim that American invented it isn't unfounded. Sure the world has taken over, but the invention itself, which the parent claimed, was fact. So you are grasping at straws.. No one in America claims to "own" it, but claiming invention is simply correct.
Yup, then you will have "showed the US". It's insane the level of hostility towards the US here sometimes. I have a hard time believing it's all completely warranted hostility.
As an American I could care less about this, but I'm not in the networking infrastructure, I do software so this probably doesn't effect me much.
I'm glad to see the world stand on it's on feet in regard to networking. It makes the network stronger in turn, and that's good for humanity in general.
Also, if we're gonna do broad generalizations about Americans than allow me to retort by saying that people around the world should stop assuming all Americans are alike and making stupid comments based on broad generalizations.
That actually does come as a shock. What are they doing over that time?
Sounds like art house BS to me. I love a well designed font, it's part of being a programmer, finding one you really enjoy using that doesn't hurt your eyes over time. But come on, it's insane that there are careers devoted to typeface.
Think about it, they can copyright a mouse, but even the government understands it's just a font and shouldn't be copyrighted.
Don't be so quick to dismiss go-kart racing. It's only a hop skip and a jump to formula one from there. Just ask Michael Schumacher, arguably the world's best race car driver who still races go-karts to this day.
Also, there's a huge difference between your local putt-putt/go-kart and one that can do 0-100 in 4 seconds and handle a 1.5G turn.
Not me. Here in Florida, there was a huge "scandal" over Tilapia being passed off as Grouper and the state actually enforcing "truth in labeling" laws for such things, handing out fines to offenders. It's why a Grouper sandwich costs so much here, Grouper is in shorter supply and they used to simply label Tilapia as Grouper.
Better question is why bother? Why would they try and entice Linux users? Linux users are notoriously cheap (I guess I can't speak for all but _I_ am a cheap Linux user) so they can't ever make a dime from them and in turn they don't represent a market. It would be irresponsible to use resources to devote to such a user base with no potential return beyond publicity. But even if they did it would just be labeled a devious plan to subvert Linux.
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Yes programming with multiple threads can be tricky, but there is a reason more apps are using more threads. It's to take advantage of the new hardware coming down the pike. IMO it gives webkit more longevity.
Multi-threading is not some "new fangled gadget" and this attitude, "The monolith is king because it's simple", is just nonsense. Some things require more complex code to take all the advantages it can get. A browser is one of those applications.
This actually brings up a great point. When I worked for a government agency converting their paper forms to digital we were required to accept the paper form and enter them in manually. I set up an OCR process for the data entry team but every single page scanned in had to be checked for correctness when compared to the original. It was a very tedious process and showed the limitations of OCR software. This was just a few years ago.
So scanning them in using OCR is just one step, proof-reading the results is another. Is Google willing to do this for all scanned data? If so then more power to them.
Working on them, however, takes a more polished developer...
Yeah those Mainframe programmers are the real cream of the crop.. heh
This is a funny ha ha right? Because it's like saying we should do away with new glass displays in airplanes because they make pilots lazy.
Apologies if it's a joke but every time someone makes a coding error someone on here has to pull out the "back in my day we were men and coded without errors because the system exploded!" card. That's nonsense. Garbage in garbage out. A tool is only as good as it's user. It's the responsibility of the developer to use the tool properly.
My house is made of concrete blocks. But then again, I live in Florida ;-)
Only if they work together to make it higher than is fair to the consumer, aka price fixing. Proving that is always the hard part and it's futile to speculate.
But this is exactly why I use prepay with t-mobile and own my device. I looked around and made a choice, then stick to that plan. This sounds like one of those caveat emptor situations to me. The government simply cannot play nanny to every dumb fool that comes down the pike.
Google could never bring enough might to bear to claim complete and utter isolation from national laws just by motoring into international waters. Any country with might would simply seize control if provoked. It's really hard to fall back on "law" when you are facing the very same people that write them.
I'm curious, why is spawning 100 threads a flawed design? You give no context what so ever. Thread count is hardly a reliable measurement of design without some context.
Multi threaded browsing is a plus. One of my pet hates of Firefox is the one-bad-tab-crashes-the-browser problem.
I've not used IE for donkey's years, but one thread per tab strikes me as an excellent idea.
It seems Google thinks the same. Chrome will have this as a feature supposedly.
This seems to be a focus on premature optimization IMO. I understand this issue is important, but isn't making sure it's feature correct first more important? Think about it from Microsoft's perspective, what is more important to the typical end-user? Keyword being "typical" and not "geek" like most of us here.
If it was up to me the focus would be on sandboxing, Javascript performance improvements, privacy, and my favorite - standards compliance. Then when all of that is out the door let's focus on getting it slimmed down. This would be the rational way. The tried and true development way.
Ah the good old days. And then the talkies came and Vaudeville was dead. Wait, how far back are we talking?
But smoking does effect them. It may hurt them. They don't carry on "normal lives" in the sense that they may get cancer or emphysema, etc.
I don't think "addiction", in the vague sense that something dominates your life, becomes an issue until it harms you. But that's just my opinion. Arguing the meaning of the word itself is kind of pointless. We all know what people mean when they say "addiction", they mean that it somehow is hurting your life.
SUCK.. SUCK.. SUCK..!
Well go check a history book and search the origins of the internet. The claim that American invented it isn't unfounded. Sure the world has taken over, but the invention itself, which the parent claimed, was fact. So you are grasping at straws.. No one in America claims to "own" it, but claiming invention is simply correct.
It's just an observation on the hostility. You can claim it's a delusion if you wish..
The US invented the Internet.
No, you didn't.
I'm curious what you are alluding to. Do you have some facts you can post?
Yup, then you will have "showed the US". It's insane the level of hostility towards the US here sometimes. I have a hard time believing it's all completely warranted hostility.
As an American I could care less about this, but I'm not in the networking infrastructure, I do software so this probably doesn't effect me much.
I'm glad to see the world stand on it's on feet in regard to networking. It makes the network stronger in turn, and that's good for humanity in general.
Also, if we're gonna do broad generalizations about Americans than allow me to retort by saying that people around the world should stop assuming all Americans are alike and making stupid comments based on broad generalizations.
Exactly! Intelligence and spying is by nature illegal.
If anyone thinks routing around the US is going to stop US eavesdropping, well they obviously don't understand the US government's capabilities.
More valuable is how this will stop any US instability from effecting the internet as a whole.
That actually does come as a shock. What are they doing over that time?
Sounds like art house BS to me. I love a well designed font, it's part of being a programmer, finding one you really enjoy using that doesn't hurt your eyes over time. But come on, it's insane that there are careers devoted to typeface.
Think about it, they can copyright a mouse, but even the government understands it's just a font and shouldn't be copyrighted.
No no no, the web is all about usability!.. To the point that it becomes boring as shit.
Don't be so quick to dismiss go-kart racing. It's only a hop skip and a jump to formula one from there. Just ask Michael Schumacher, arguably the world's best race car driver who still races go-karts to this day.
Also, there's a huge difference between your local putt-putt/go-kart and one that can do 0-100 in 4 seconds and handle a 1.5G turn.
Not me. Here in Florida, there was a huge "scandal" over Tilapia being passed off as Grouper and the state actually enforcing "truth in labeling" laws for such things, handing out fines to offenders. It's why a Grouper sandwich costs so much here, Grouper is in shorter supply and they used to simply label Tilapia as Grouper.
Better question is why bother? Why would they try and entice Linux users? Linux users are notoriously cheap (I guess I can't speak for all but _I_ am a cheap Linux user) so they can't ever make a dime from them and in turn they don't represent a market. It would be irresponsible to use resources to devote to such a user base with no potential return beyond publicity. But even if they did it would just be labeled a devious plan to subvert Linux.