Or we could leave wild animals in, I don't know, the wild perhaps. I don't have a problem with using animals for justified medical/behavioral experiments. Or herd animals for food for that matter. But primates do not make good pets and are, for the most part, too intelligent to stick in cages for their entire life simply to entertain humans.
And yet we still keep him, and his relatives, in a cage.
For scientific reasons.
Oh, wait, it's fashionable to prattle on about how humans stink. I see why you left that off, never mind. To atone for this, in the next thread about SETI I'll make a joke about how aliens won't respond back to us because there's no intelligent life here. I should get modded up because we all read that Calvin and Hobbes cartoon, right?
Yes, because humans have never done anything to him. I don't think I've ever been to a zoo and not witnessed a teenager taunt the primates. Or put the chip in the cage to begin with.
Also, didn't you ever watch Planet of the Apes?
I suppose you missed the part at the end where the humans had nuked the planet.
I think it is the Left that is big on NASA cuts, as NASA is under mostly military spending. The problem is a failure to educate the public about the importance of these areas, If you leave it to average voter they will see NASA as a waste of tax payer money, because the government does nothing to really explain the importance to the general public. It was easy during the Cold war where we can go In Your Face USSR... But now our greatest enemies cannot even get a missile to go a few hundred miles, it seems less of a priority. Why does big business have control much greater then the government... It is easy, they know how to market to the average Joe.
Funny, I've always seen it as the "fiscal conservatives" want us to quit "wasting" money in space so instead things have to be billed under the military to get anything done.
Find me a liberal who opposes NASA funding based off of it going to military purposes, cause I think you are full of shit.
It's funny, and sad, that you are both full of shit. The world is not "blue" or "red". "left" or "right". It's somewhere in between, or maybe outside of these stupid simplifications all together. The entire point of the US was for everyone to find some kind of common ground and work together from that starting point. Somehow this has been warped into splitting the country into polar halves and finding the most divisive issues on either side. Followed by screaming these views at each other until someone loses their voice. I can't say I recall much prior to the early 1970's, but the level of discourse is currently worse than I can remember it in my lifetime.
"The war in 2008 in Georgia is a good example of this; Georgia was a NATO ally, and yet the US did nothing to support them when invaded by the Russians (due to our Middle East wars), not only did that show Georgia who was the biggest kid on the block, it showed every other country in the Caucasus who was too."
Wouldn't that be more equivalent to the Falkland Islands?
Except Russia did not initially invade Georgia. They defended South Ossetia after Georgia shelled the capitol, Tskhinvali, and invaded their territory. Only then did Russia push the Georgian troops back into Georgia. Tskhinvali was mostly reduced to rubble by the end of it.
This would be no different than if the US defended Taiwan from a Chinese attack. It's all dependent on your point of view as to the nations sovereignty. But regardless of your thoughts on that, Georgia should not have used artillery against civilian targets.
I feel I need to apologize. I completely misunderstood your original post and the response. I didn't realize that you were explaining this to a non-English speaking person with a very valid question to begin with. After reading the 50 or so posts above my brain kind of shut down temporarily. Sorry, all this PC crap makes me a little nuts.;-)
Yes, context matters and it is a juvenile response.
There is nothing juvenile about it, and judging by some of the responses regarding this topic, it's certainly not obvious. Frankly I find it pretty funny how politically correct so many on/. are about this. Especially considering how anti politically-correct most are regarding other matters.
The fact remains it has a strong negative connotation with the general public to the actual detriment of its adoption.
No more so than my reference to Lame, retard, master/slave. But good of you to completely sidestep anything you don't find convenient.
As for "heb" (alt. "heeb"), that is similar to Nip or Jap. All are simply single-syllable adaptions of ethnic designations. These are similar to "Brit" or "Yank". Not really offensive, unless you're looking for a reason to be offended. Unfortunately, lots of people seem to have that as a hobby.
Also, I think "Heeb" is a magazine dedicated to Jewish (Hebrew) culture in the New York/New Jersey area.
Plenty of people are appalled by the use of those "single-syllable adaptions". Actually surprisingly so. Most derogatory names can be traced back to a rational root that was not intended to be as such originally. It makes it no less offensive to some. You are correct about Heeb magazine. It also caused a pretty interesting divide among younger and older people in the Jewish community. Many older people found it to be very offensive.
Finally, regarding your wife, you probably already realize the use of potentially derogatory terms as self-reference is not only politically correct but a form of self-empowerment. (For reference, see "nigger" as used in popular black culture versus use by anyone else on the planet.)
No, it's not politically correct. Many still find those terms offensive no matter who uses them. Frankly I find it a little racist/sexist/whatever, that any group of people can use a term that everyone else cannot. It's either offensive or it's not. Anything else is just being childish.
Hmmm...I should have found a way to integrate usages of "hacker" in there somewhere. Oh, well. See the previous/. article on B&N pulling a copy of Linux Format for more of that than you can probably stomach.
Gimp means lame or crippled. Calling someone a gimp is an insulting way of calling them defective. Similar to calling someone a retard.
Not the brightest name for a software package.
So I suppose that they better change the name of this project too then. My wife has MS and walks with a crutch most of the time now. She often refers to herself as "a gimp". Of course the name of the program in question is not "a gimp", it's GIMP.
Is it offensive when I retard the timing on an engine? Isn't that entirely different from calling someone "a retard"? What about setting the Master or Slave for an IDE drive?
Context matters. But frankly I do not understand why people give so much power to these words when they are used as insults. They are only words, generally used by small people and used to make them feel somehow better about their own pathetic lives. Political correctness has run a muck in the US. Don't they teach "Stick and stones can break my bones, but words will never hurt me" in school anymore? I've been called a "cracka" and a "honky" before that and have had black friends refer to me as a "nigga" too. They are only words.
I didn't find out until I was in my twenties that my family, on my mothers side, left Germany in the late 30's because they were Jewish. They were so scared that they hid this from everyone, including their own family. I couldn't tell you how mayn people called me a "heb" or a "kike" after finding that out. These terms are only offensive if people let them be as such. And making them taboo when they are not even being used in a derogatory fashion is just stupid.
I like this quote: "...and there's actually useful applications in having a laser attached to the animal.".... Like world domination
I was wondering the same thing, as well as who would have the need for a" useful application" like this. Besides some bald guy with a white Persian cat.
Just because someone used Twiiter to post something, doesn't make Twitter responsible for that post. Geez...how stupid to say that Twiiter leaked it.
I'm sorry Mr. AC. This is/. and the title clearly states that Twitter is the culprit in this case. And don't start in on what the summary or TFA states. On/. we only need to read the title, we're all too smart for summaries and such.
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My satellite box has built in recording capabilities. What reason do I have for using Hulu? It suddenly seems more like an extra cost than a reasonable replacement for what I'm already paying too much for.
Yep. Should have just dusted-off the old WTC schematic, made a few tweaks to modernize the internal skeleton, and then rebuild the whole damn thing again. Plus add a temporary middle finger to the top, aimed towards Mecca.
"You destroy it; we'll rebuild it. You destroy it again; we'll rebuild it again. And again and again." Just like the Senate and People of Rome. They lost 3 navies before finally crushing Carthage. They refused to give up.
Temporary middle finger? Personally I would have liked the new design for the building to be in the shape of a middle finger. With anti aircraft artillery on the roof for good measure.
I know. I've been watching Discovery and other channels like it since before it was cool to watch that kind of stuff, but now the main channels are mostly full of stupid reality crap. You have to go to Science, H2, NatGeo, Green, BBC, Bio, etc to find good stuff, and not all cable or satellite providers offer all of those newer networks, much less offer them on the lower packages.
I've noticed that, that seems to be the natural evolution of television channels. Back when I was a teen MTV actually played music videos. And occasionally some interesting ones. Then they became more mainstream and played less and less interesting stuff. Eventually they made MTV2 and the original almost completely stopped playing music and went with reality shows. I have no idea what is on any of their channels now as it's probably been close to 20 years since I last watched it.
The SciFi channel originally played noting but SciFi and fantasy type stuff. They showed Dr. Who, the original BSG, Dark Shadows and a bunch of the old movie serials. Now they play wrestling and other non-scifi crap. At least they were honest about it and changed the name to SyFy.
I think everyone tries to minimize their tax burden. What makes these companies stand out is the vast extent of effort they put into it.
Like it or not, if it's legal and makes them more profitable they'd be stupid not to.
I earn an above average salary and I pay my accountant to do my taxes to ensure that I am able to claim all the deductions that I am entitled to. The difference is that I don't have a shell company set up in a tax haven paying me in some nefarious manner that is done to avoid yet another fee of some sort.
If you have a decent accountant, they would certainly suggest doing so it it were legal and to your benefit. I know people in Canada who incorporated themselves and have the company they work for pay their "company" and draw their salary from that for tax purposes. Do you think for one minute that people in the US would not do the same if the laws were the same and it would benefit them financially?
These stories wouldn't be stories if MS or Apple simply claimed all that they could on their tax statements, they are stories because of the absurd lengths that they go to. I am absolutely sure that/. and many websites try to claim all that they are entitled to, but I would be exceptionally surprised if the lengths that they went to included offshore tax havens, "Offices" set up in a state to claim a different regional address and the like.
I can't speak for/., but this is really common practice among large companies. The sad part is that the people who write the laws leave loopholes in the law that allow for things like this to be legal in the first place. Of course those companies probably paid for those loopholes in the form of "campaign donations" anyhow. Which is the truly discussing part. All of this outrage should be aimed at the elected officials who allow this kind of crap to happen in the first place.
To me, it sounds like a very bold claim to eliminate all the drawbacks from anything. Maybe you made it a little bit better.
From the summery:
MIT Researchers Invent 'Super Glass'
is not only crystal clear, but it also causes water droplets to bounce right off its surface, 'like tiny rubber balls.' The glass is self-cleaning, anti-reflective, and superhydrophobic.
The only drawback is trying to see through the "S shield."
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we could treat him like a human and see how he does. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,494067,00.html
Or we could leave wild animals in, I don't know, the wild perhaps. I don't have a problem with using animals for justified medical/behavioral experiments. Or herd animals for food for that matter. But primates do not make good pets and are, for the most part, too intelligent to stick in cages for their entire life simply to entertain humans.
And yet we still keep him, and his relatives, in a cage.
For scientific reasons.
Oh, wait, it's fashionable to prattle on about how humans stink. I see why you left that off, never mind. To atone for this, in the next thread about SETI I'll make a joke about how aliens won't respond back to us because there's no intelligent life here. I should get modded up because we all read that Calvin and Hobbes cartoon, right?
I have no problems with them keeping him in a cage for scientific reasons. But that is simply not the case. He's on display for the entertainment people. Or did they do the following as a precursor for how to deal with violent criminals? To control his behavior, and keep his hormone levels down, zookeepers castrated Santino. Since then, Santino has been observed to be more playful and is growing a "Buddha belly" How scientific of them.
He's planning to throw stones! At humans.
Yes, because humans have never done anything to him. I don't think I've ever been to a zoo and not witnessed a teenager taunt the primates. Or put the chip in the cage to begin with.
Also, didn't you ever watch Planet of the Apes?
I suppose you missed the part at the end where the humans had nuked the planet.
Well yeah, if humans threw stones at people we'd put them in a cage too called "jail"
Usually the way that works is you throw the stones first and then get put in a cage. Not the other way around.
And yet we still keep him, and his relatives, in a cage.
I think it is the Left that is big on NASA cuts, as NASA is under mostly military spending. The problem is a failure to educate the public about the importance of these areas, If you leave it to average voter they will see NASA as a waste of tax payer money, because the government does nothing to really explain the importance to the general public. It was easy during the Cold war where we can go In Your Face USSR... But now our greatest enemies cannot even get a missile to go a few hundred miles, it seems less of a priority. Why does big business have control much greater then the government... It is easy, they know how to market to the average Joe.
Funny, I've always seen it as the "fiscal conservatives" want us to quit "wasting" money in space so instead things have to be billed under the military to get anything done. Find me a liberal who opposes NASA funding based off of it going to military purposes, cause I think you are full of shit.
It's funny, and sad, that you are both full of shit. The world is not "blue" or "red". "left" or "right". It's somewhere in between, or maybe outside of these stupid simplifications all together. The entire point of the US was for everyone to find some kind of common ground and work together from that starting point. Somehow this has been warped into splitting the country into polar halves and finding the most divisive issues on either side. Followed by screaming these views at each other until someone loses their voice. I can't say I recall much prior to the early 1970's, but the level of discourse is currently worse than I can remember it in my lifetime.
Which totally explains why he was against the TSA before that incident even happened!
Wait, no it doesn't...
This is /. Of course it does.
"The war in 2008 in Georgia is a good example of this; Georgia was a NATO ally, and yet the US did nothing to support them when invaded by the Russians (due to our Middle East wars), not only did that show Georgia who was the biggest kid on the block, it showed every other country in the Caucasus who was too."
Wouldn't that be more equivalent to the Falkland Islands?
Except Russia did not initially invade Georgia. They defended South Ossetia after Georgia shelled the capitol, Tskhinvali, and invaded their territory. Only then did Russia push the Georgian troops back into Georgia. Tskhinvali was mostly reduced to rubble by the end of it.
This would be no different than if the US defended Taiwan from a Chinese attack. It's all dependent on your point of view as to the nations sovereignty. But regardless of your thoughts on that, Georgia should not have used artillery against civilian targets.
I feel I need to apologize. I completely misunderstood your original post and the response. I didn't realize that you were explaining this to a non-English speaking person with a very valid question to begin with. After reading the 50 or so posts above my brain kind of shut down temporarily. Sorry, all this PC crap makes me a little nuts. ;-)
Thank you Captain Obvious!
Yes, context matters and it is a juvenile response.
There is nothing juvenile about it, and judging by some of the responses regarding this topic, it's certainly not obvious. Frankly I find it pretty funny how politically correct so many on /. are about this. Especially considering how anti politically-correct most are regarding other matters.
The fact remains it has a strong negative connotation with the general public to the actual detriment of its adoption.
No more so than my reference to Lame, retard, master/slave. But good of you to completely sidestep anything you don't find convenient.
As for "heb" (alt. "heeb"), that is similar to Nip or Jap. All are simply single-syllable adaptions of ethnic designations. These are similar to "Brit" or "Yank". Not really offensive, unless you're looking for a reason to be offended. Unfortunately, lots of people seem to have that as a hobby.
Also, I think "Heeb" is a magazine dedicated to Jewish (Hebrew) culture in the New York/New Jersey area.
Plenty of people are appalled by the use of those "single-syllable adaptions". Actually surprisingly so. Most derogatory names can be traced back to a rational root that was not intended to be as such originally. It makes it no less offensive to some. You are correct about Heeb magazine. It also caused a pretty interesting divide among younger and older people in the Jewish community. Many older people found it to be very offensive.
Finally, regarding your wife, you probably already realize the use of potentially derogatory terms as self-reference is not only politically correct but a form of self-empowerment. (For reference, see "nigger" as used in popular black culture versus use by anyone else on the planet.)
No, it's not politically correct. Many still find those terms offensive no matter who uses them. Frankly I find it a little racist/sexist/whatever, that any group of people can use a term that everyone else cannot. It's either offensive or it's not. Anything else is just being childish.
Hmmm...I should have found a way to integrate usages of "hacker" in there somewhere. Oh, well. See the previous /. article on B&N pulling a copy of Linux Format for more of that than you can probably stomach.
For more of what than I can stomach?
Gimp means lame or crippled. Calling someone a gimp is an insulting way of calling them defective. Similar to calling someone a retard.
Not the brightest name for a software package.
So I suppose that they better change the name of this project too then. My wife has MS and walks with a crutch most of the time now. She often refers to herself as "a gimp". Of course the name of the program in question is not "a gimp", it's GIMP.
Is it offensive when I retard the timing on an engine? Isn't that entirely different from calling someone "a retard"? What about setting the Master or Slave for an IDE drive?
Context matters. But frankly I do not understand why people give so much power to these words when they are used as insults. They are only words, generally used by small people and used to make them feel somehow better about their own pathetic lives. Political correctness has run a muck in the US. Don't they teach "Stick and stones can break my bones, but words will never hurt me" in school anymore? I've been called a "cracka" and a "honky" before that and have had black friends refer to me as a "nigga" too. They are only words.
I didn't find out until I was in my twenties that my family, on my mothers side, left Germany in the late 30's because they were Jewish. They were so scared that they hid this from everyone, including their own family. I couldn't tell you how mayn people called me a "heb" or a "kike" after finding that out. These terms are only offensive if people let them be as such. And making them taboo when they are not even being used in a derogatory fashion is just stupid.
I don't want to sound fatalistic, but one day or another one of those guys makes a mistake and then 90% percent of mankind is going to die.
On the bright side, Al Gore will finally be correct. The debate regarding AWG will truly be over...
Among the remaining 10% of the population. Nature will have shown us it's solution. Not that anyone will be giving it any thought at that point. ;-)
I like this quote: "...and there's actually useful applications in having a laser attached to the animal." .... Like world domination
I was wondering the same thing, as well as who would have the need for a" useful application" like this. Besides some bald guy with a white Persian cat.
Just because someone used Twiiter to post something, doesn't make Twitter responsible for that post. Geez...how stupid to say that Twiiter leaked it.
I'm sorry Mr. AC. This is /. and the title clearly states that Twitter is the culprit in this case. And don't start in on what the summary or TFA states. On /. we only need to read the title, we're all too smart for summaries and such.
At least now, when civilization collapses, we will be safe from the self aware gangers in acid suits .
My satellite box has built in recording capabilities. What reason do I have for using Hulu?
To watch the show that was on at the same time as the show that you recorded.
PVR's have been able to record more than one show for some time now. So again, Why in the hell would I want to spend more money on Hulu?
Will make Hulu irrelevant
. My satellite box has built in recording capabilities. What reason do I have for using Hulu? It suddenly seems more like an extra cost than a reasonable replacement for what I'm already paying too much for.
Yep. Should have just dusted-off the old WTC schematic, made a few tweaks to modernize the internal skeleton, and then rebuild the whole damn thing again. Plus add a temporary middle finger to the top, aimed towards Mecca.
"You destroy it; we'll rebuild it. You destroy it again; we'll rebuild it again. And again and again." Just like the Senate and People of Rome. They lost 3 navies before finally crushing Carthage. They refused to give up.
Temporary middle finger? Personally I would have liked the new design for the building to be in the shape of a middle finger. With anti aircraft artillery on the roof for good measure.
I know. I've been watching Discovery and other channels like it since before it was cool to watch that kind of stuff, but now the main channels are mostly full of stupid reality crap. You have to go to Science, H2, NatGeo, Green, BBC, Bio, etc to find good stuff, and not all cable or satellite providers offer all of those newer networks, much less offer them on the lower packages.
I've noticed that, that seems to be the natural evolution of television channels. Back when I was a teen MTV actually played music videos. And occasionally some interesting ones. Then they became more mainstream and played less and less interesting stuff. Eventually they made MTV2 and the original almost completely stopped playing music and went with reality shows. I have no idea what is on any of their channels now as it's probably been close to 20 years since I last watched it. The SciFi channel originally played noting but SciFi and fantasy type stuff. They showed Dr. Who, the original BSG, Dark Shadows and a bunch of the old movie serials. Now they play wrestling and other non-scifi crap. At least they were honest about it and changed the name to SyFy.
I wonder how it does on deadlock seals? Or baby seals, for that matter.
As large as the Matt Smith era sonic screwdriver is, I'm pretty confident you can bludgeon a baby seal with it, no problem.
I think everyone tries to minimize their tax burden. What makes these companies stand out is the vast extent of effort they put into it.
Like it or not, if it's legal and makes them more profitable they'd be stupid not to.
I earn an above average salary and I pay my accountant to do my taxes to ensure that I am able to claim all the deductions that I am entitled to. The difference is that I don't have a shell company set up in a tax haven paying me in some nefarious manner that is done to avoid yet another fee of some sort.
If you have a decent accountant, they would certainly suggest doing so it it were legal and to your benefit. I know people in Canada who incorporated themselves and have the company they work for pay their "company" and draw their salary from that for tax purposes. Do you think for one minute that people in the US would not do the same if the laws were the same and it would benefit them financially?
These stories wouldn't be stories if MS or Apple simply claimed all that they could on their tax statements, they are stories because of the absurd lengths that they go to. I am absolutely sure that /. and many websites try to claim all that they are entitled to, but I would be exceptionally surprised if the lengths that they went to included offshore tax havens, "Offices" set up in a state to claim a different regional address and the like.
I can't speak for /., but this is really common practice among large companies. The sad part is that the people who write the laws leave loopholes in the law that allow for things like this to be legal in the first place. Of course those companies probably paid for those loopholes in the form of "campaign donations" anyhow. Which is the truly discussing part. All of this outrage should be aimed at the elected officials who allow this kind of crap to happen in the first place.
I still have my Walnut Creek CD's from Slackware 3.6
Oh. So just those disks.
the only other software I kept from that period is Win 3.11
Of course.
, OS/2,
And that.
and a few DOS versions.
So basically you still have every bit of software you've ever owned.
To me, it sounds like a very bold claim to eliminate all the drawbacks from anything. Maybe you made it a little bit better.
From the summery:
MIT Researchers Invent 'Super Glass'
is not only crystal clear, but it also causes water droplets to bounce right off its surface, 'like tiny rubber balls.' The glass is self-cleaning, anti-reflective, and superhydrophobic.
The only drawback is trying to see through the "S shield."
This begs the question of whether we really need the TSA
No. I'd say it answers the question quite succinctly.
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