I personally enjoy the creeping in of RPG elements in games that traditionally don't make use of them. What I however do not understand is how that has anything to do with the lack of modtools or whatever. Recently I've been playing a bit of an indie game called Killing Floor, which apparently started out as a mod for UT2k4. This is quite an enjoyable cheap little game with a handful of different classes and a handful of levels for each. Make headshots, and become better with precision weapons, that sort of thing. It gives a nice sense of perpetuity and progress to playing the game. Not sure how much I'll enjoy it once I hit max level. Chances are I'll shelve it, but hey, I enjoyed it while it lasted and it cost 1/4th what a AAA game that would've not last me 8 hours would have.
Could this be why EVE Online is a complete niche game with a very limited audience compared to your regular trash console FPS title with a lifespan of 4 weeks?
Except, the morals of American have changed very much in the past 230 years. Even stating such a thing as "historians and anthropologists would agree that [they] haven't" is completely absurd. Either you're just a troll or some kind of nutcase who believes the propaganda that is spammed by the US politicians and various groups.
The founding fathers, for instance, were not religious madmen who thought it was a good idea to have religion play a major role in society. The current leadership is. That's just one thing... now can you name others?
Yes, Europe is the place to sell his stuff. The US is a nightmare as a businessman making new products. If you want to sell other people's product, it's fine.
Unasserted, but more valid, as mine does not involve invisible, mindreading superbeings that overlord all of existence and say that you can't have sex before you're married. Unless you believe in a different invisible, mindreading superbeing. Your point?
What is the relevance of this post? Other than to show that you didn't read the original post and thus just dropped in randomly trying to be funny, but failed.
And you call that compatible? The "why" is an unknown. There is no purpose to existence other than existence itself. Religion is nonsensical crap for the people too weak to stand on their own legs and accept that we come from nothing and go to nothing, leaving behind only a memory, that in time will fade.
So, no, it's not very interesting that Intelligent Design wants to answer "why", because it's not a question that has any answer.
I hope your post is a joke, even though it's a pretty bad joke. There is no secluded problems with ID, there is only one problem, and it's ID. You cannot defend it. Re-examination of what? Why are clams on top of a mountain? Why, could it be because a bird dropped it there a million years ago, maybe it was because that mountain was at the bottom of the ocean a billion years ago. What the hell does Intelligent Design have to do with real scientists thinking about such things? Science is about questioning everything! Intelligent Design is NOT about questioning, it's about looking at something, then saying "this is god's work" and then that's that. Intelligent Design is anathema to science. And defending it in any way is ridiculous and retarded.
Oh, I agree completely in that I miss the days of Quake FFA servers and so on. However, I feel that such things are best kept in games that work around that idea, not MMOs that try to emulate it and incorporate it into a world that they want to somehow be consistent and perpetual and ever changing, yet at the same time also static so noone ever misses the content that was in there the first place
I hardly ever bother playing any new FPS games online simply because I don't feel like joining some epic team struggle or work together with people in such games, where cooperation is either win or lose, and depends on communication and so on with people you don't know and don't really care to know either. I like the FFA DM server or other such craziness. I don't like capture the flag or dominate or whatever unless it's on a private server with my friends.
This is why I never played TF2 and never will either and why L4D was put on the shelf after the initial fun with friends n the demo (nice 49â wasted there)... it's just not my kind of game to play cooperative with a group of people I don't know and most likely never will know. Nor do I have the time to play in any clan so, because I like to enjoy many different games and don't want to sit and get good enough at one to be able to join others... bring back FFA DM please.
You're likely a US timezone player, and it's true that in the US timezones the game is much less populated than in european timezones. Depends on when you played though, things pick up and drop off all the time. They plan on having a new graphics engine out for the game within this year, so some advertisement should follow that and help revitalize. They're also working on extensive rebalancing and reduction of grinding and inclusion of new raiding/content for lower/mid levels throughout.
I'd like to disagree in that you can't start anew in an "old" MMO with heavy group play reliance. I play Anarchy Online and people constantly reroll new alts and new people are about constantly through the free play offer. The problem is mainly with the old group reliance games that they haven't been updated to reflect the speed that newer games have. Where you can log on and level to max in a couple days, it takes months in the older games, and then there's various things that people consider absolutely necessary items to continue their development, and instead of seeing this as a progression, they just whine about it being a grind. If stuff is not readily available through some quest that has you go out and play the hero in a world that doesn't care and doesn't change, then it's grinding now...
Killing it through making everything into solo-content, losing out on all the things that the genre would've allowed for. All the many possibilities of player vs player conflict are swept under the rug and turned into endless killing grounds, like the instanced battle arenas in Anarchy Online, WAR and WoW. WAR is a bit on the right track again, with the world being sort of dynamic between the two sides, but things are just going way too fast back and forth. And the world is too stiff.
The idea of players working together, cooperating and prospering in these digital worlds has been lost and we're back in the ego race for the most epeen. Which is sad, because the fun of these games lies in the multiplayer cooperative part. Which was their great attraction piece in times past. Now, it's just a really bad singleplayer game. Consider, if you will, playing any of the many MMOs in an offline game. Everything works exactly the same as the MMO, only you're quite alone. Nothing you do will ever have an impact on the world as it does in proper singleplayer games. The story progresses and things change around your character. In MMOs the best thing you can do is fake this, like they've started doing in WoW, which I find to be just cheap, with the only purpose of it being to greater satisfy the solo player. Leaving nothing in the way of multiplayer ways to see change going on in the world.
Sad.
Probably because it's a pretty retarded post? I've not much use for Linux in my every day life, but I've used it enough on multiple hardware platforms, both stationary and mobile, and neither of them had any problems with rendering graphics. Not even with all the silly hardware accellerated effects turned on.
Indeed, Penumbra series are quite good games for the money they cost. Indeed they're much better horror games than most the AAA titles that are spewed out by major companies. They just lack the graphical polish that those companies can afford. The gameplay is however just as good and the mood is better.
How on earth do you figure it's 31$ pr album? It's 31$ to get listed. Read the article, how would you ever make it out to be 31$ pr. album when 9 sales is all that's required to get back in the black?
And make it illegal to indoctrinate children with religion, as religion is 1000 fold more harmful to childrens' minds than any videogame. Then, when they're of an age where they're capable of choosing themselves, having been enlightened of the choices in religion and atheism, and let them choose for themselves. Just like they can choose to play these presumably harmful videogames.
Like I said earlier, there's no problem in being a registered member of a religion, which in those times was pretty much what everyone was, and not believing in or practice said religion.
Not a fundamentalist state, no, but growing very close to it? But your president did start a war in the name of "God", and allegedly also prayed every day, and talked about god in his speeches left and right. The same is true for the current one who also won many votes because of his piety. Any politician declaring that he is not a religious man commits political suicide, regardless of the freedom of choice to be religious, not religious or a mixture. A hetz of another world is taking place against people who are not religiously inclined, and people believe atheists are a kind of demonic entity who want nothing but to destroy other people...
Your freedom is an illusion.
I never implied any connection between atheism and secularity. Only that they did not wish for religion to control the country, and seeing the US now, in a state where atheists are demonized and it's political suicide to declare that you are not a strictly pious man, is not something they would have liked to see.
Sure, a government and country that changes with its people, but the quote that started this was about corporations, and how is a church actively lobbying in the nature of US churches not equal to a corporation? Just because it's religious it should get special treatment? Because it's "god's will"?
My point being it's somewhat hypocritical invoking the founding fathers in such a way when other things they said are conveniently forgotten. Why shouldn't the corporations get the power when they really want it? After all, the corporations are the people, too.
Because you are a member of a religion does in no way make you a religious person, and you can easily be part of a church and remain atheistic.
Read Richard Dawkins' The God Delusion for some more facts on the subject. Your founding fathers abhored the idea of religion in charge, and I'm sure they would be completely aghast with the current state of the country they helped build.
Thomas Jefferson also thought that a secular state was a good idea, and the other founding fathers were a type of atheists, yet the USA is now a fundamentalist religious state.. way to tarnish their memory:|
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I see what you did there :)
I personally enjoy the creeping in of RPG elements in games that traditionally don't make use of them. What I however do not understand is how that has anything to do with the lack of modtools or whatever.
Recently I've been playing a bit of an indie game called Killing Floor, which apparently started out as a mod for UT2k4. This is quite an enjoyable cheap little game with a handful of different classes and a handful of levels for each. Make headshots, and become better with precision weapons, that sort of thing. It gives a nice sense of perpetuity and progress to playing the game. Not sure how much I'll enjoy it once I hit max level. Chances are I'll shelve it, but hey, I enjoyed it while it lasted and it cost 1/4th what a AAA game that would've not last me 8 hours would have.
Could this be why EVE Online is a complete niche game with a very limited audience compared to your regular trash console FPS title with a lifespan of 4 weeks?
Except, the morals of American have changed very much in the past 230 years. Even stating such a thing as "historians and anthropologists would agree that [they] haven't" is completely absurd. Either you're just a troll or some kind of nutcase who believes the propaganda that is spammed by the US politicians and various groups.
The founding fathers, for instance, were not religious madmen who thought it was a good idea to have religion play a major role in society. The current leadership is. That's just one thing... now can you name others?
Silly.
Yes, Europe is the place to sell his stuff. The US is a nightmare as a businessman making new products. If you want to sell other people's product, it's fine.
Who said violent videogames weren't good for anything? This is in your face, Jack Thompson!
I never said it was. Only it makes no sense to believe in any gods.
Unasserted, but more valid, as mine does not involve invisible, mindreading superbeings that overlord all of existence and say that you can't have sex before you're married. Unless you believe in a different invisible, mindreading superbeing. Your point?
What is the relevance of this post? Other than to show that you didn't read the original post and thus just dropped in randomly trying to be funny, but failed.
And you call that compatible? The "why" is an unknown. There is no purpose to existence other than existence itself. Religion is nonsensical crap for the people too weak to stand on their own legs and accept that we come from nothing and go to nothing, leaving behind only a memory, that in time will fade.
So, no, it's not very interesting that Intelligent Design wants to answer "why", because it's not a question that has any answer.
I hope your post is a joke, even though it's a pretty bad joke. There is no secluded problems with ID, there is only one problem, and it's ID. You cannot defend it. Re-examination of what? Why are clams on top of a mountain? Why, could it be because a bird dropped it there a million years ago, maybe it was because that mountain was at the bottom of the ocean a billion years ago. What the hell does Intelligent Design have to do with real scientists thinking about such things? Science is about questioning everything! Intelligent Design is NOT about questioning, it's about looking at something, then saying "this is god's work" and then that's that. Intelligent Design is anathema to science. And defending it in any way is ridiculous and retarded.
Oh, I agree completely in that I miss the days of Quake FFA servers and so on. However, I feel that such things are best kept in games that work around that idea, not MMOs that try to emulate it and incorporate it into a world that they want to somehow be consistent and perpetual and ever changing, yet at the same time also static so noone ever misses the content that was in there the first place
I hardly ever bother playing any new FPS games online simply because I don't feel like joining some epic team struggle or work together with people in such games, where cooperation is either win or lose, and depends on communication and so on with people you don't know and don't really care to know either. I like the FFA DM server or other such craziness. I don't like capture the flag or dominate or whatever unless it's on a private server with my friends.
This is why I never played TF2 and never will either and why L4D was put on the shelf after the initial fun with friends n the demo (nice 49â wasted there)... it's just not my kind of game to play cooperative with a group of people I don't know and most likely never will know. Nor do I have the time to play in any clan so, because I like to enjoy many different games and don't want to sit and get good enough at one to be able to join others... bring back FFA DM please.
There is a morrowind co-op project out there ;) do a google :) it's crude and all, but it works.
You're likely a US timezone player, and it's true that in the US timezones the game is much less populated than in european timezones. Depends on when you played though, things pick up and drop off all the time. They plan on having a new graphics engine out for the game within this year, so some advertisement should follow that and help revitalize. They're also working on extensive rebalancing and reduction of grinding and inclusion of new raiding/content for lower/mid levels throughout.
I'd like to disagree in that you can't start anew in an "old" MMO with heavy group play reliance. I play Anarchy Online and people constantly reroll new alts and new people are about constantly through the free play offer. The problem is mainly with the old group reliance games that they haven't been updated to reflect the speed that newer games have. Where you can log on and level to max in a couple days, it takes months in the older games, and then there's various things that people consider absolutely necessary items to continue their development, and instead of seeing this as a progression, they just whine about it being a grind. If stuff is not readily available through some quest that has you go out and play the hero in a world that doesn't care and doesn't change, then it's grinding now...
Killing it through making everything into solo-content, losing out on all the things that the genre would've allowed for. All the many possibilities of player vs player conflict are swept under the rug and turned into endless killing grounds, like the instanced battle arenas in Anarchy Online, WAR and WoW. WAR is a bit on the right track again, with the world being sort of dynamic between the two sides, but things are just going way too fast back and forth. And the world is too stiff.
The idea of players working together, cooperating and prospering in these digital worlds has been lost and we're back in the ego race for the most epeen. Which is sad, because the fun of these games lies in the multiplayer cooperative part. Which was their great attraction piece in times past. Now, it's just a really bad singleplayer game. Consider, if you will, playing any of the many MMOs in an offline game. Everything works exactly the same as the MMO, only you're quite alone. Nothing you do will ever have an impact on the world as it does in proper singleplayer games. The story progresses and things change around your character. In MMOs the best thing you can do is fake this, like they've started doing in WoW, which I find to be just cheap, with the only purpose of it being to greater satisfy the solo player. Leaving nothing in the way of multiplayer ways to see change going on in the world. Sad.
Probably because it's a pretty retarded post? I've not much use for Linux in my every day life, but I've used it enough on multiple hardware platforms, both stationary and mobile, and neither of them had any problems with rendering graphics. Not even with all the silly hardware accellerated effects turned on. Indeed, Penumbra series are quite good games for the money they cost. Indeed they're much better horror games than most the AAA titles that are spewed out by major companies. They just lack the graphical polish that those companies can afford. The gameplay is however just as good and the mood is better.
How on earth do you figure it's 31$ pr album? It's 31$ to get listed. Read the article, how would you ever make it out to be 31$ pr. album when 9 sales is all that's required to get back in the black?
And make it illegal to indoctrinate children with religion, as religion is 1000 fold more harmful to childrens' minds than any videogame. Then, when they're of an age where they're capable of choosing themselves, having been enlightened of the choices in religion and atheism, and let them choose for themselves. Just like they can choose to play these presumably harmful videogames.
Like I said earlier, there's no problem in being a registered member of a religion, which in those times was pretty much what everyone was, and not believing in or practice said religion.
Not a fundamentalist state, no, but growing very close to it? But your president did start a war in the name of "God", and allegedly also prayed every day, and talked about god in his speeches left and right. The same is true for the current one who also won many votes because of his piety. Any politician declaring that he is not a religious man commits political suicide, regardless of the freedom of choice to be religious, not religious or a mixture.
A hetz of another world is taking place against people who are not religiously inclined, and people believe atheists are a kind of demonic entity who want nothing but to destroy other people... Your freedom is an illusion.
Facts being quotations. That book is just convenient in that it has the useful ones at hand with reference.
I never implied any connection between atheism and secularity. Only that they did not wish for religion to control the country, and seeing the US now, in a state where atheists are demonized and it's political suicide to declare that you are not a strictly pious man, is not something they would have liked to see.
Sure, a government and country that changes with its people, but the quote that started this was about corporations, and how is a church actively lobbying in the nature of US churches not equal to a corporation? Just because it's religious it should get special treatment? Because it's "god's will"?
My point being it's somewhat hypocritical invoking the founding fathers in such a way when other things they said are conveniently forgotten. Why shouldn't the corporations get the power when they really want it? After all, the corporations are the people, too.
Because you are a member of a religion does in no way make you a religious person, and you can easily be part of a church and remain atheistic.
Read Richard Dawkins' The God Delusion for some more facts on the subject. Your founding fathers abhored the idea of religion in charge, and I'm sure they would be completely aghast with the current state of the country they helped build.
Thomas Jefferson also thought that a secular state was a good idea, and the other founding fathers were a type of atheists, yet the USA is now a fundamentalist religious state.. way to tarnish their memory :|