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Unusual Physics Engine Game Ported To Linux

christian.einfeldt writes "Halloween has come early for Linux-loving gamers in the form of the scary Penumbra game trilogy, which has just recently been ported natively to GNU-Linux by the manufacturer, Frictional Games. The Penumbra games, named Overture, Black Plague and Requiem, are first-person survival horror and physics puzzle games which challenge the player to survive in a mine in Greenland which has been taken over by a monstrous infection/demon/cthulhu-esque thing. The graphics, sounds, and plot are all admirable in a scary sort of way. The protagonist is an ordinary human with no particular powers at all, who fumbles around in the dark mine fighting zombified dogs or fleeing from infected humans. But the game is remarkable for its physics engine — rather than just bump and acquire, the player must use the mouse to physically turn knobs and open doors; and the player can grab and throw pretty much anything in the environment. The physics engine drives objects to fly and fall exactly as one would expect. The porting of a game with such a deft physics engine natively to Linux might be one of the most noteworthy events for GNU-Linux gamers since the World of Goo Linux port."

117 comments

  1. It's Only $5 by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Informative

    I just ordered it and am downloading the install file now (893 MB). All three games are $5 (and the site says for this weekend only) when purchased as one. Normally they are $10 each. And the site accepts Paypal if you're afraid of handing out credit card information to yet another site.

    Dirt cheap compared to most games even on Steam so I'll definitely see how well it runs on my Ubuntu box.

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    1. Re:It's Only $5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Question: you can throw almost anything, but can you toss my salad?

    2. Re:It's Only $5 by loki_tiwaz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      i bought these games on steam, i think i paid the same. good games but i found it incredibly frustrating the lack of object highlighting as you would in some places have to scan your mouse around to find objects of interest, as, not *everything* would be interactive.

      however, given a walkthrough i got to enjoy the very scary events of one of the games but i have to say that solving a puzzle is one thing, but not being able to find the pieces is quite another. i have played dreamfall, and that game is mostly puzzle with a bit of fun scary action in it, it's more playable.

      but whinges aside. kudos for porting the game to linux. imho, game engines are probably not that hard to port from one platform to another, given the use of opengl. getting the management to see the worth of it is quite another. hopefully this will change in time. games that use opengl are also readily ported to mac. with the rapid uptake of ipods and iphones i suspect that the rate of new buyers of macs will slowly escalate, and this should bring more game engines onto opengl and thus increase the chances of other operating systems getting them too.

      and then finally, almost anything will actually be available in mostly the same state almost anywhere. wouldn't that be lovely.

    3. Re:It's Only $5 by redcaboodle · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Did we slashdot their e-sales partner? I ordered the game a few minutes ago and am still waiting for a confirmation email from the shop.

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    4. Re:It's Only $5 by Razalhague · · Score: 3, Informative

      lack of object highlighting

      Options -> Game -> Flashing items

    5. Re:It's Only $5 by redcaboodle · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Hmm - did we slashdot Paypal? There's no history of the transaction in my account. Odd.

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    6. Re:It's Only $5 by menkhaura · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Voted with my pocket and bought my copy, too. I just couldn't find the system requirements on the site.

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    7. Re:It's Only $5 by loki_tiwaz · · Score: 1

      that doesn't require rollover to activate? i'm pretty sure you still have to roll over...

    8. Re:It's Only $5 by tdvaughan · · Score: 4, Informative

      Watch out what password you use when you register on their site - they send it back to you as plain text in an email. Sigh...

    9. Re:It's Only $5 by redcaboodle · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Takes a while, but there it is.

      I just wish the server was a tad quicker.

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    10. Re:It's Only $5 by Razalhague · · Score: 2, Informative
      I don't think so. The help text for the option says:

      If on, items will flash shortly when nearby.

      ...so it could be that they stop flashing after a while (and then you need to roll over), but I can't remember seeing that happen. I guess I just grabbed them before they stopped flashing.

    11. Re:It's Only $5 by LingNoi · · Score: 1

      It was instant for me, but then I paid directly rather then through pay pal

    12. Re:It's Only $5 by LizardKing · · Score: 4, Informative

      Windows Minimum Requirements:
      OS: Windows 2000/XP/Vista
      Processor: 1.5Ghz
      Memory: 512MB
      Disc Space: 2.0GB
      Video Card: Radeon 8500/GeForce 3
      (GeForce4MX not supported)

      Linux Minimum Requirements:
      Same hardware as Windows
      Kernel 2.6 or higher(2.4 untested)
      glibc 2.3
      X11R6 with 3D acceleration
      For x86_64 CPU, 32-bit environment
      must be installed

    13. Re:It's Only $5 by stuntpope · · Score: 1

      It's right on the 'Buy' page: http://www.penumbragame.com/buy.php

    14. Re:It's Only $5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why the hell do I have to register on a website just to order something? It's faster and easier to pirate this shit than give them all sorts of details to plop down a $5 game!

    15. Re:It's Only $5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same here. $5! Can't pass that up. I bought the OS X version via PayPal.

    16. Re:It's Only $5 by mahdi13 · · Score: 1

      They also have Mac versions available.
      It's always nice to see when a company acknowledges that not everyone uses Windows

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    17. Re:It's Only $5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Voted with my wallet and am glad I did.
      Install was flawless on my OpenSuse 11.2 box.

      The physics are quite good - I busted the whiskey bottle on the table with the chair - hey, it was already empty . >;-)

      Need to mess around some more before I am ready to objectively compare the physics to HL-2 (go Garry's mod!) but first impression is very positive.

      Please consider voting with your wallets too - this is a good day for Linux gaming; esp. in light of the other news here on /. where US game sales are lowest in 9 years.

      Cheers,

    18. Re:It's Only $5 by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      I remember there being a Bioshock-style back-lighting to interactive items with that on...

      Me, I turned that off. I didn't have any problems finding things, but then I'm usually pretty observant about these kinds of things.

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    19. Re:It's Only $5 by X0563511 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yea... I really wish people would wise up and knock that shit off.

      It's not that the users or webmasters are really at fault - it's the programmers who write the underlying code that think such things are acceptable - the people who should know better!

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    20. Re:It's Only $5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True... but some of us are told by our bosses that we have to send the password in the confirmation email to the user because otherwise they'll forget it and arguments to the contrary fall on deaf ears :(

    21. Re:It's Only $5 by cojoneees · · Score: 1

      I bought them for 5 euros on Steam some weeks ago, they had the same weekend deal :)

      As much as I hate Steam for doing some dubious price changes, most their weekend deals are usually dirt cheap and worth it.

  2. Unstoppable by CarpetShark · · Score: 3, Funny

    the player to survive in a mine in Greenland which has been taken over by a monstrous infection/demon/cthulhu-esque thing...and the player can grab and throw pretty much anything in the environment.

    Great, now where was that handbag?

  3. Holy shit, these games are scary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I remember trying the Penumbra... Scariest experience in my life. No other game or movie has gotten anywhere near. (Though I am the kind of person that get scared easily.)

    Sneaking in dark mines, waiting for your eyes to get used to the darkness enough that you see something, hearing that there is something else nearby and staying still... I hoped it - whatever it was - would not see me (if it hadn't already)...

    And you know that though you can escape, you can't outrun anything so you should very slowly sneak towards the door, turn the knob and get yourself to the other side and close the door before anything else gets there... But then again, you have no idea what is on the other side of the door.

    I still don't know what was it that killed me. Perhaps one of such zombie dogs. It was pretty early and I didn't open the game again. Would recommend it, though.

    1. Re:Holy shit, these games are scary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember trying the Penumbra... Scariest experience in my life. No other game or movie has gotten anywhere near.

      Same here. Compare to AAA "horror" games like FEAR 2, Penumbra is actually a horror game. Not some run of the mill FPS that a marketing guy slaps a "Horror!!!11" stick on.

    2. Re:Holy shit, these games are scary by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      Heh, single dog.

      <SPOILER>If you are good enough, you can grab a rock (or other heavy object) and beat it unconscious... at least long enough to get far enough away). Of course, make sure you barricade that door extremely well, or it will get through and make your life quite tense for a while. </SPOILER>

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  4. Not recent ports by Rob+Seace · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, they've had the Linux version of these games available for quite some time... The only thing new is the $5 special pricing for the complete collection of all three... But, if you haven't already got them before now, then definitely go get them for $5!

    1. Re:Not recent ports by Razalhague · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not exactly. The new thing is the all-in-one installer for linux.

  5. Not recently ported by Rynor · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This Penumbra trilogy has been on Linux for a while, the first game ran on linux somewhere in 2007 iic, so it's definitely not recently ported... the only news here is that it's perhaps cheaper now, so it's a nice slashvertisement.

    That being said, these games are pretty cool if you like survival horror / adventure games.

  6. Just who in world though this is good idea... by zwei2stein · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ... he player must use the mouse to physically turn knobs and open doors ...

    Oh come on, ain't first rule of game design to throw away "realistic" rubbish and make game comfortable to play?

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    1. Re:Just who in world though this is good idea... by Razalhague · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's called "immersion". You wouldn't believe the effect this has on simple actions like opening a door. You grab the door and slowly push it open, all the time fearing that there's something on the other side waiting to gnaw your face off. And you know what? It's still comfortable to play.

    2. Re:Just who in world though this is good idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should try it before you criticise it. It's really a heck of a lot of fun to play and once you get the idea of it (since it's different to most games), it's really all quite natural, and some of the puzzles are really quite ingenious in how they make use of using computer peripherals in this way. They don't get you to hold the peripherals in uncomfortable positions.. you hold them just like you would with any game. They require certain gestures and combinations though.. gestures are fun and the button combinations are similar to any game which makes use of button combinations.

    3. Re:Just who in world though this is good idea... by CarpetShark · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Oh come on, ain't first rule of game design to throw away "realistic" rubbish and make game comfortable to play?

      Generally speaking, you're quite right, so long as you bear in mind that sometimes the physical stuff -- timing your jump and hitting the button at just the right time for instance --- is where the challenge comes from.

      BUT, in a horror game, it may be quite different. Horror is usually about making people uncomfortable -- ESPECIALLY about things like how fast they should open a door, whether they should rethink the action halfway through, whether they've already made a noise and should therefore get out of the room they're currently in ASAP, etc.

    4. Re:Just who in world though this is good idea... by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Insightful

      My thought exactly. Think of a horror movie where you are sitting on your seat's edge because the protagonist fumbles with reload of his revolver while that zombie dog is dashing towards him. His hand shakes as he peels out the spent cartridges, he tries to load a new cartridge, he fumbles, the bullet drops into the black void below, the metal clanc as it hits the ground while you hear that unearthy bark and growl of the dog sprinting towards him, and only one more bullet in his hand... Then finally he manages to get it in, he raises the gun, tries to aim and just as the dog leaps to him he fires, blindly...

      Way scarier and more suspense building than spitting out a full ammo box of machine gun ammo towards the dog and pretty much tearing it to bloody shreds that splatter down around our hero.

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    5. Re:Just who in world though this is good idea... by The_mad_linguist · · Score: 1

      Uncomfortable UIs just make me irritated.

      And if I wanted to be irritated, there are plenty of ways I can do that without spending money. For example, I could debate politics, religion, or whether 0.9999999~ = 1 on the internet.

    6. Re:Just who in world though this is good idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great example! I was getting into it. Those chihuahuas can be vicious.

    7. Re:Just who in world though this is good idea... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      No kidding! Ever tried hitting one of those ankle biters? Lemme tell you, when you only have one bullet, you'd prefer a Great Dane coming for you.

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    8. Re:Just who in world though this is good idea... by jipn4 · · Score: 1

      all the time fearing that there's something on the other side waiting to gnaw your face off. And you know what? It's still comfortable to play.

      This must be some sense of "comfortable" that I'm not familiar with :-)

    9. Re:Just who in world though this is good idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But do you get to use the command line?

    10. Re:Just who in world though this is good idea... by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      Now, have you actually played the game? Longer than 5 minutes?

      You quickly realize how well done the "UI" is.

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    11. Re:Just who in world though this is good idea... by The_mad_linguist · · Score: 1

      I tried playing it, but when it was still irritating me fifteen minutes in I figured I had more fun things to do with my time.

  7. Unrealistic. by SharpFang · · Score: 5, Funny

    " The physics engine drives objects to fly and fall exactly as one would expect."

    And that's what breaks the suspense of disbelief. I mean, in real life things never fall where I intend/expect them to fall as I throw them.

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    1. Re:Unrealistic. by noundi · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      I mean, in real life things never fall where I intend/expect them to fall as I throw them.

      Are you female by any chance?

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    2. Re:Unrealistic. by CarpetShark · · Score: 2, Funny

      Are you female by any chance?

      Yeah, I'm female. Sorry about my aim. How's that bruise now?

    3. Re:Unrealistic. by noundi · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry, I didn't intend to offend anyone. It was a harmless joke and I apologize if you were offended. I'll even make up for it. The next international women's day I'll make sure to tell 50 random women that they're excellent drivers. Just to help end these terrible myths once and for all.

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    4. Re:Unrealistic. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They can't all be excellent. They them they're average drivers.

    5. Re:Unrealistic. by CarpetShark · · Score: 1

      Just kidding around ;)

    6. Re:Unrealistic. by The_Noid · · Score: 1

      Sure they could be, it just depends on what population you take that average of! I'm sure that in the group of "woman and blind people" all woman that are not blind are far above average drivers :)

    7. Re:Unrealistic. by socrplayr813 · · Score: 1

      No, just a Slashdot poster. What's this 'outside' thing I keep hearing about?

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    8. Re:Unrealistic. by Valdrax · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      The next international women's day I'll make sure to tell 50 random women that they're excellent drivers. Just to help end these terrible myths once and for all.

      That men only give compliments when they're trying to impress a chick, and they're often insincere?

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    9. Re:Unrealistic. by __aasqbs9791 · · Score: 1

      It's this free demo that everyone has seems to have access to. But I don't see the big deal, it hasn't been upgraded in a long time. You can't jump very far, and the physics engine seems a bit off to me. And the bugs! They can really be a problem, especially when the day/night cycle is changing over. They really need a 2.0 version before I'll play it again. My hardware doesn't seem to run it very well.

  8. Re:So... by AlmondMan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Probably because it's a pretty retarded post? I've not much use for Linux in my every day life, but I've used it enough on multiple hardware platforms, both stationary and mobile, and neither of them had any problems with rendering graphics. Not even with all the silly hardware accellerated effects turned on. Indeed, Penumbra series are quite good games for the money they cost. Indeed they're much better horror games than most the AAA titles that are spewed out by major companies. They just lack the graphical polish that those companies can afford. The gameplay is however just as good and the mood is better.

  9. $5 each platform? by diodegod · · Score: 2, Informative

    Poking around the checkouts I see that you buy the game individually for each operating system as opposed to buy once, run anywhere. If my main mac dies (again) I'll have to shell out again to play it on a Windows or Linux machine. Not a huge fan of this sort of arrangement, I liked Braid where I've paid for it once and have access to Windows and OSX copies.

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    1. Re:$5 each platform? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bet the number of people who change OSs regularly is FAR smaller than the number of people that would try to run the Linux or Mac version on Windows and then cry and bitch because the game doesn't work.

      Don't think this would happen? Gamers in general are unfortunately rather dumb lately. Increasing the market has its downsides :D

    2. Re:$5 each platform? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It is just fsck'ing $5, not $60. Spend $10 instead of $5 and get both. The price *IS* right here. Geez!

    3. Re:$5 each platform? by LingNoi · · Score: 1

      Checking the price of braid it's $14.95 at the moment. This game is $5. Just buy it for every platform and stop bitching.

    4. Re:$5 each platform? by Taibhsear · · Score: 1

      Is this per OS or per computer? I have 3 computers. 1 runs linux exclusively, the other two dualboot linux and xp. I mainly use xp for gaming and HD media (I haven't tried getting vdpau to work yet) and linux for pretty much everything else. Can I buy the linux version once and use it on all my computers or do I need to buy it 3 times?

    5. Re:$5 each platform? by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      Technically, I think it's per computer. You need to pay for an actual copy of the other OS version of the game, but there is no DRM or any such nonsense to prevent you from using it as you see fit.

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    6. Re:$5 each platform? by BikeHelmet · · Score: 1

      Poking around the checkouts I see that you buy the game individually for each operating system as opposed to buy once, run anywhere. If my main mac dies (again) I'll have to shell out again to play it on a Windows or Linux machine. Not a huge fan of this sort of arrangement, I liked Braid where I've paid for it once and have access to Windows and OSX copies.

      I'm inclined to agree with Anonymous Coward:

      It is just fsck'ing $5, not $60. Spend $10 instead of $5 and get both. The price *IS* right here. Geez!

      Isn't Braid $15? Seems like the price is perfect!

    7. Re:$5 each platform? by Dennola4 · · Score: 1

      Poking around the checkouts I see that you buy the game individually for each operating system as opposed to buy once, run anywhere. If my main mac dies (again) I'll have to shell out again to play it on a Windows or Linux machine. Not a huge fan of this sort of arrangement, I liked Braid where I've paid for it once and have access to Windows and OSX copies.

      Actually, there's an opportunity to purchase "insurance" or the like for an additional $5. The deal is that you have access to the source and can download as many times as you like from it for a one year period. So three games for $10 and a one year warranty, essentially. Not a bad deal.

  10. This p'sses me off! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This company can manage a native port of this great sounding game and engine, but WTF happened to UT3 and when are Bethesda going to port Fallout 3 and DLCs to GNU eh? Never that's when!

    Seems like only the little companies are preapred to dispense with the BS and try something truly original, UT2004 was ported when EPIC was still allowed to, then ATARI got in there and just like the old days of the 80's, they suits decided that they not going to support some Mickey Mouse hippy type O/S!

    Ughh!

    1. Re:This p'sses me off! by electrosoccertux · · Score: 1

      This company can manage a native port of this great sounding game and engine, but WTF happened to UT3 and when are Bethesda going to port Fallout 3 and DLCs to GNU eh? Never that's when!

      Seems like only the little companies are preapred to dispense with the BS and try something truly original, UT2004 was ported when EPIC was still allowed to, then ATARI got in there and just like the old days of the 80's, they suits decided that they not going to support some Mickey Mouse hippy type O/S!

      Ughh!

      UT3's not even worth porting, there's still countless gameplay bugs that keep any serious teams from competing; you can't even access the server browser from the game (you have to disconnect, wait 8 seconds for loading, navigate through the server browser, then connect), and they've done nothing but alienate players with "additions" like in patch 2.0 counting bots as real players in the server player count (probably so that when people took screenshots of the "new server browser improvements" it would look like hundreds of people were playing-- UT3 from the getgo has struggled to attract any meaningful number of players) making it a nightmare to find a server with any _real_ players. They reneged in 2.1 but the damage was already done. [note-- Flight Sim 2006 has more players than UT3. What the heck is Flight Simulator 2006???] Epic fail for Epic.

    2. Re:This p'sses me off! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. That sucks. I knew something smelled fishy when they switched numbering systems, and then when they announced that UT3 would not have the Skaarj or Gen Mo'kai -- the cool alien races, but would instead give us the Krall. The fucking Krall. Slaves to the Skaarj in Unreal, those fucking Krall.

        WTF? Might as well have a Star Trek game with no Klingons or Romulans, but hey! You can play as that webbed-hand race, like that guy Wesley bumped into on that one TNG episode!

        So, I just knew it would end badly. AND IT HAS! Thus proving that nerds are always right about a franchise's odds. (*ahem*) Yeah, you heard me.

    3. Re:This p'sses me off! by electrosoccertux · · Score: 1

      Franchise had a great future. All the UT99 folk were excited, to say the least, about the gameplay in the demo. When they found out the demo was basically what the full game was going to be like (UI, to be specific) they completely lost interest.

      It was Epic's chance to get all the UT99 folks onto the latest and greatest.

      I myself still play UT3 just for the iCTF. But not much else.

  11. Welcome back to 03-22-2007 02:55 PM, everyone. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1. Re:Welcome back to 03-22-2007 02:55 PM, everyone. by Michael_gr · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, the article says the games have been RE-ported. Which makes sense: I tried playing the first one - or a demo - on my Ubuntu machine about six months ago, and it was the most unstable piece of software I've ever seen, and crashed so frequently I gave up on playing it pretty quickly.

  12. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You admit that ultimately everything is about Windows vs Linux for you. This makes you a trolling asshole. :)

  13. Re:So... by CarpetShark · · Score: 3, Funny

    Heck I can't even get Linux to properly display windows without all the graphics getting messed up.

    It helps if you stop punching the monitor.

  14. Re:So... by jellomizer · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Yet I have been using Linux since 1994 and I found there are hardware problems, on most systems actually. I started to see them when I stopped becoming a Linux Zealot. I use the big 3 OS's (Linux, OS X, Windows) almost on a daily basis. They all have their pluses and minuses. One of Linux's minus is it lacks quality handling of modern video cards, hence not making it good for games, heck it barely runs the Windows managers when you want some of the modern effects on your system... I am sorry but I like a semi-transparent Terminal that shows the Windows behind it. And when I am using Linux I am willing to trade off the fact my windows get messed up after a couple of hours of use, but it shows off its faults with video. I can point out faults in other OS's 2 but the topic was about a game for Linux.

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  15. What's with the sudden interest in Lovecraft? by slack_justyb · · Score: 1

    Is it just me or am I noticing more cites to the Lovecraft mythos?

    This article.
    This one.
    Then I head over to this site and see this.

    Is there a sudden resurgence in Lovecraft as an Internet meme that I'm unaware of?

    1. Re:What's with the sudden interest in Lovecraft? by sammyF70 · · Score: 1

      It's just 42 you, who happen to have an interest 23 in some special thing, and just see it anywhere.

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    2. Re:What's with the sudden interest in Lovecraft? by $1uck · · Score: 2, Informative

      Copyrights recently expired, might have something to do with it. Chaosium has trademarked Call of Cthulhu (not sure how, would love to see someone challenge it). But the stories are copyright free (although I think someone might be fighting this).

    3. Re:What's with the sudden interest in Lovecraft? by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      Lovecraft references have been a staple of geek-conversation for years, just like Monty Python and H2G2.

    4. Re:What's with the sudden interest in Lovecraft? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even after strange eons, that which lays dead may...

      RISE again as an internet meme!

      (no actually, I agree, that Lovecraft is a staple of our culture ... it never died, you just stopped paying attention. Fnord)

    5. Re:What's with the sudden interest in Lovecraft? by An+ominous+Cow+art · · Score: 1

      You're perfectly fnord right.

    6. Re:What's with the sudden interest in Lovecraft? by cptnapalm · · Score: 1

      I presume that the stars are right.

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  17. And... by kungfuj35u5 · · Score: 1

    purchased. Too bad I'm at work, can't wait to give it a shot on a linux box. Wonder if it will work in freebsd with linux binary compatibility.

    1. Re:And... by Rynor · · Score: 1

      I tried it quickly at some point, it worked for me with the linux-fc8 binary compatibility port, ymmv.

  18. Re:So... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I've not much use for Linux in my every day life, but I've used it enough on multiple hardware platforms, both stationary and mobile, and neither of them had any problems with rendering graphics.

    The HDMI output on my laptop does not work at all under Linux (Quadro 2700M.) And I can't do dual-display without my system actually failing to bring up X if I don't have the external display connected.

    Graphics and sound are in fact the two places where Linux falls on its ass the hardest, and if you don't acknowledge these problems, you're living in denial. Maybe YOU haven't had problems with either, but both are common. Intel boned the graphics driver for my lady's laptop, too. I thought open source intel drivers were supposed to make graphics reliable?

    Linux is great in a lot of ways, but graphics are still a sore spot due to incompetent drivers from all major manufacturers.

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  19. Re:So... by poetmatt · · Score: 2, Informative

    Uh, even my 8600M GT can handle most graphic effects in a stunning fashion if not amazing. I don't know what you're talking about but both Nvidia and ATI cards are handled pretty darn well on Linux nowadays.

    People even use it for gaming! .

    Maybe you should try running Linux. It's clear you aren't currently.

  20. Re:So... by gazbo · · Score: 2, Funny

    It helps if you stop punching the monitor.

    Unfortunately that's an unavoidable consequence of running Linux.

  21. Re:So... by CarpetShark · · Score: 2, Funny

    Probably because it's a pretty retarded post?

    What do you expect, after hammering it into the ground like that?

  22. Bad headline.. another bad reporting.. sigh by moogord · · Score: 1

    Getting fustrated at /.'s constant missreporting in its headlines and articles these days, its worse than digg and thats saying something. It was ported to linux years ago, the series has always been a multiplatform game. this is just a combination of all three games into one pack. its worth the money easly but still, stop with the missleading headlines.

  23. No 64-bit version? by Karellen · · Score: 1

    Well, it won't run on any of my systems then.

    Unless I feel like downloading untold megs of 32-bit libraries just to run this one app, just because they won't do a recompile. FFS!

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    1. Re:No 64-bit version? by Razalhague · · Score: 4, Funny

      downloading untold megs

      Yeah, it could take, like, several minutes to do that!

    2. Re:No 64-bit version? by dns_server · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I have a 64 bit system and I play 32 bit world of goo without any problems once you install the 32 bit libs.
      On my ubuntu machine is 101mb (installed), if that is a lot of space for you then you have a reasonable complaint.

    3. Re:No 64-bit version? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This, all the damn time this.

  24. Performance by rhsanborn · · Score: 1

    Can anyone give an overview of the relative performance in Windows vs Linux? I have both, and if there are going to be issues, I'd hate to have to go back and buy it again to get it running on Windows...

    1. Re:Performance by mydots · · Score: 2, Informative

      I just bought the linux version and started playing it and have not had any problems with performance so far. I am running kubuntu 9.04 x86_64 with an Intel core2quad 2.83G with 8G DDR1066 and dual Radeon HD 4550 in crossfirex mode using the latest ati catalyst 9.6 fglrx driver. The movement is very smooth without any hiccups with all the video options at their highest settings. I can't give you a comparison to the windows version since I have no intention on getting it, but I can tell you that it works great on my linux system.

  25. Re:So... by jedidiah · · Score: 1

    A few power user corner cases is not "falling on it's ass".

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  26. Got mine! by marciot · · Score: 1

    Windows user here, and I bought my copy. I love adventure games, and the best one I ever played was something called Realms of the Haunting (1997) which combined a creepy story, challenging puzzles, with just enough Doom-style first person action to keep you on the edge of your seat. I'ld like to see how Penumbra stacks up. Thanks for sharing this!

    Now if only someone can convince Gremlin to open source ROTH, that would be great!

    1. Re:Got mine! by LingNoi · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure Gremlin was liquidated years ago.

  27. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the open warzone 2100 i have noticed is a bit unstable anyway, I doubt you'd have such problems if you were to play say Alien Arena.

  28. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One of Linux's minus is it lacks quality handling of modern video cards, hence not making it good for games, heck it barely runs the Windows managers when you want some of the modern effects on your system...

    My low-end 8300GS Nvidia card running with Ubuntu 9.04 handles full effects, HD video and anything else I throw at it perfectly. If you'd said '*some* modern video cards' you might be nearer the mark.

  29. Re:So... by somersault · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I maybe fall into the 'power user' band as I sometimes use dual displays, but I certainly have had sound problems with both my MBP and my Dell mini 9 when running Ubuntu. Recently some update screwed up pulseaudio on my Mini 9 (sound kept stuttering every 30 seconds or so) so I've just removed it for now. General sound playback is working fine again, but for some reason the login sound now stutters instead. I'm willing to live with that since it's only once a day, but the sound situation on Linux is still a bit of a mess. Dell Mini 9s are definitely not intended for 'power users'..

    The Mac also had regular and annoying sound crackling/whining issues in the left speaker - apparently very common in MBPs - but since it's a fairly specialised case I know it's a bit much to expect devs to concentrate on solving Mac issues, especially when I could have just stuck with OSX.

    The only other annoyance I have in Linux these days is that evolution occasionally crashes for no reason (usually when I go to use the search option, but sometimes it just seems to be random).

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  31. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The game is very good, but it is a sad testament to the state of Linux gaming when a game getting ported is considered "big news".

  32. Odd lack of game commentary by __aaqiui4953 · · Score: 1

    As a Windows user who has played all three games in the Penumbra series a long time ago (well... two years ago), I was kind of expecting more of a reaction to the actual gameplay from the Linux world. Penumbra took a different approach to the traditional style of first person games and decided that giving you a fighting chance was way less fun than just making you wonder if you're alone in the dark or not. Penumbra: Overture allows some meager defensive tactics, such as swinging a hammer or saw in order to... fend off whatever might be interested in you. The second game, Penumbra: Black Plague, is the shining pinnacle of this development. No defense, no weapons, nothing that protects you from the mysteries in the dark. You can run, but you certainly can't hide very well (the panic system ensures this). The puzzles are challenging and require thought, but not in the "adventure-game-click-everywhere-until-you-don't-die-and-then-reload" style ala late 80s/early 90s Sierra games. Most of the puzzles are logical ones - there's a hole in the wall and you're hearing odd noises, and the lights are flickering. It's probably going to be a good idea if you can block whatever is in the hole - look around and find a crate or a box you can push to block it. Unfortunately, Penumbra: Requiem took a step back in storyline and atmosphere and focused almost entirely on physics puzzles, sacrificing what Black Plague had as an excellent compromise for the sake of making something a bit different. I hope more game companies, Linux, Mac, or Windows, adopt newer styles of meeting a genre such as this game.

  33. Buy them now by __aamkky7574 · · Score: 1

    Great games, and worth the ridiculously low price. An incredibly tense blend of survival horror and adventure. Linux advocates are always complaining that they don't get good games - well, here you go. P.

  34. Looks interesting ... by LizardKing · · Score: 1

    ... and although I run NetBSD, for $5 it's worth buying just to see if it runs under Linux emulation.

  35. Physics engine by JernejL · · Score: 1

    Just for the curious: the game runs on the free (as in free beer) newton physics engine.

  36. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    nVidia officially supports its cards under Linux. No, I do not like that is is proprietary. (Because) Yes, it does make X slightly unstable. But the graphics card is completely supported. And fast.

    As for translucent terminals: use konsole (in KDE4). Set "background transparency" to, say, 25%. Actually, do not. Any serious use of the terminal is negatively impacted by seeing text underneath your own text. KDE 4 has more eye candy than a 6-year old after Halloween. There are things to bitch about Linux, but support for standard support of nVidia graphics is not one of them.

  37. Re:So... by X0563511 · · Score: 1

    I've used GeForces under Linux since 2002 - several card models on several successive machines. I've never had this problem.

    Perhaps you should consider that you may, possibly, have a hardware problem, that is just more exposed under Linux?

    Don't be so quick to blame the OS. How many systems have you had this problem on?

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  38. Re:So... by X0563511 · · Score: 1

    Pulseaudio should never have been. Don't blame Linux for Canonical's insistence that the horrible kluge called Pulseaudio is installed by default.

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  39. Re:So... by X0563511 · · Score: 1

    Fortunately, It's easier on the wallet than the results of running Windows!

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  40. Quit whining by acid06 · · Score: 1

    Seriously.

    It's so rare to see companies even show interest into porting games to Linux.
    This one has done it and, hell, they deserve to be paid for it. It's not like porting to a minority platform is free.

    Even if they charged extra for the Linux version, they would probably still lose money with the port.

  41. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't feel bad. I had the same problem until I realized I was running Linux on a ATI graphics card instead of Nvidia card. After that it was smooth sailing and the toaster I installed it on never ran better. But from observation, some people just aren't smart enough to figure it out.

  42. Fantastic games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These are absolutely fantastic games, which by the way, have been available for Linux for a couple of years. Frictional Games is working on a new release which should also be available for Linux. Buy these games! Especially for only five dollars. I paid full price when they were new and they're worth every penny!

    --edfardos

  43. Bought it ... tried it ... aieee! Still, wow. by KlaymenDK · · Score: 3, Interesting

    3 games for a fiver?
    For Linux even?
    In this quality?
    I just can't *not* buy this game, which will be my first game purchase since I fished a copy of Half-Life (1) out of a bargain bin, back when I still had Windows at home.

    But My God, this game is too creepy for me! The game is so dark and moody, it's no use trying to play it in any sort of daylight. Thanks for that, yer bastards. ;-) I cherish the opportunity to run a proper 3d game, in fullscreen resolution, I do appreciate the very nice motion blur effects, and it is kind of fun to learn the somewhat different control method (which, for some reason, reminds me of Alone in the Dark).

    But it's just sneak sneak sneak BOOH! and I don't think my nerves can take this. I mean, that one place within the crawling tunnels of Space Quest was quite enough for me, thank you very much. I'd much rather play something like Day of Defeat (v1.3-ish), ported to Linux.

    Still: if a smallish game company can pull this off, there is just *NO BLOODY EXCUSE* for EA and the rest of 'em to not do the same. True, one might argue that Friction "needs" to do something like this because they need to make a name for themselves, they need an "edge" that the big studios just don't need to bother with, but it does not alter the fact that Linux *can* support great games. Most likely, we will see an influx soon (which is about bloody time, really).

    Kudos to Friction and a friendly nod to my brothers across the strait. I wasn't aware the Copenhagen Post went back that far ;-) (hi San!).

  44. Recently?...no by Yfrwlf · · Score: 1

    I bought Penumbra: Black Plague a long time ago for Linux. This is definitely not new news. The only new news are the sales they have now and then, and that they are making a completely new Linux game of a similar game play apparently (scary + puzzle game) currently not given a title. Here's the link.

    Personally what I really miss, and sometimes what I feel Penumbra is trying to be, is basically a 3D sneaker, and fantasies of Thief 4 being awesome pop into my head. Not sure if there will be a Linux version of that though.

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    1. Re:Recently?...no by Yfrwlf · · Score: 1

      (P.S., Yes Penumbra is a 3D puzzle game in its own right and all, and isn't trying to be like the Thief series, but I just found myself wanting more interesting puzzles and challenges. Even Silent Hill's puzzles I enjoyed more, so if they can make more interesting and fun physics and other puzzles, that would be awesome.)

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  45. Not too late by muckracer · · Score: 1

    Missed the weekend $5 deal, but bought it today and it was still only $10 for the 3in1 Linux collection...