For the most part, I don't think the introductions we can teach in HS can prepare students to face the difficulties of these fields. What can you teach a kid in high school to prepare him for Quantum Mechanics or Complex Calculus?
You feed them the strongest material they can handle in HS, and in college you expose them to the material and give them chances to change course when they find they are in the wrong field,
What disappointed me is that college didn't address what working in a field is like when you're choosing your life's work. I had no idea when I chose to be an engineer what crunch time would be like.
Yes, but these subsidies don't fall where the research is done. Most of these are in the middle east. From your article:
The US allotted $72 billion to fossil fuels from 2002–2008, but only $29 billion to renewable energy over the same period, according to the Environmental Law Institute.
The wide discrepancy is expected to narrow in 2009-2010 as governments disperse stimulus funds. The US, alone, directed $16.8 billion of stimulus dollars into green energy, and an additional $4 billion into loan guarantees for renewable energy.
So, there is a gap, but it's narrowing, and it's nowhere near as large as you make it out to be in countries that are doing significant research. (Well, ok, in the US anyway. I'm too lazy to keep researching this - got a job to keep.)...but it's R&D investment that is being postulated to steer researchers. I don't expect they care much if the cost of gasoline is artificially depressed.
In the US, the federal government has paid US$74 billion for energy subsidies to support R&D for nuclear power ($50 billion) and fossil fuels ($24 billion) from 1973 to 2003. During this same timeframe, renewable energy technologies and energy efficiency received a total of US$26 billion
So, I'm seeing roughly 3 dollars going into non-carbon for every one going into fossil fuel.
No, in US academia, the money is not in fossil fuels.
Those trillions could be spent on some very useful things. This is exactly the problem with immediately jumping to a solution that requires pouring vast amounts of money into carbon limitations. I *hope* the compromise solution will take place - a quest for more efficient energy usage that makes economic sense in its own right.
I fear we'll legislate our businesses into the ground and make no significant change to the environment.
We need the right amount of regulation. Enough that the game is played equitably but not so much that it is unplayable. I cringe every time there is some scandal like this because I know the next Sarbanes-Oxley overreaction is coming soon so congress can look like it cares.
Why are they showing us alarming pictures comparing winter and the summer in one year?! Yes, ice melts in the summer. This is not informative data. Show us what summer looked like in 1950, 1960, 1970,... not January 2011 and August 2011. So silly!
It's so hard to get good information on this through all the ideological crap people spew.
Isn't it amazing to compare how old stuff is to our kids to how old stuff was to us?
"Why don't you give me a nice paper cut and pour lemon juice on it?"
What I want to know is, can I open a new company, produce nothing, and sell the carbon credits I get for not burning any carbon doing it? (Apart from continued respiration of course, as that is very important to me personally.)
...or would I have to establish a pattern of polluting first and then stop it?
If all else fails, I have some trees I could not cut down. There's got to be some easy money in here somewhere.
To make the point more clear, what if I made an identical copy and booted both at the same time. Do you suddenly develop a psychic link with your other self, experiencing both existences at once, living in two different places?... ridiculous.
I have pondered this same thing many times, and I agree. Imagine going into the office where they make a copy of you. He walks out with new upgraded hardware. You sit in the office waiting for your fatal injection. This doesn't sound like a good deal to me.
...but is this any different from falling asleep at night and waking up in the morning. Isn't our consciousness basically being snuffed out and replaced daily? If not, how can you, the new mind, tell that you are the same "person" as the old mind from yesterday?
The Prestige has an interesting plot along these lines.
"The amount of time Vaidyanathan was away from his chosen profession, both at Seagate and during the litigation, ended his career as a yield engineer."
Was there some reason he couldn't work while he was suing Seagate? Is that a full time job?
There are a lot more jobs to be had in the US than Mexico, so it's pretty obvious why people would want to immigrate.
What exactly is it that you think would be the personal attraction drawing flocks of people to move to Siberia if the Chinese government isn't pressing them over the border for colonial purposes?
Some of those signs (most in NYC?) are hanging out over the intersections. You'd have to pay me a pretty penny to install those.
I wonder how much they would get back selling the old ones...
Ahhaha, you almost had me there with that excellent troll, sir.
I applaud you!
On the off chance that I misunderstood your intentions, perhaps you can explain what is dishonest about attempting to understand what the original authors meant based on documents of the time?
What do you think would be a more honest approach?
I wonder how small the largest piece will be after it hits the surface. Still the materials might be interesting. Do you suppose the AF and Navy get along well enough for the Navy to secure the area?
Doubles as a solar oven during the day! Or perhaps if they cover the entire top of the container with solar panels they could drive an air conditioner with 'em.
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For the most part, I don't think the introductions we can teach in HS can prepare students to face the difficulties of these fields. What can you teach a kid in high school to prepare him for Quantum Mechanics or Complex Calculus?
You feed them the strongest material they can handle in HS, and in college you expose them to the material and give them chances to change course when they find they are in the wrong field,
What disappointed me is that college didn't address what working in a field is like when you're choosing your life's work. I had no idea when I chose to be an engineer what crunch time would be like.
The US allotted $72 billion to fossil fuels from 2002–2008, but only $29 billion to renewable energy over the same period, according to the Environmental Law Institute. The wide discrepancy is expected to narrow in 2009-2010 as governments disperse stimulus funds. The US, alone, directed $16.8 billion of stimulus dollars into green energy, and an additional $4 billion into loan guarantees for renewable energy.
So, there is a gap, but it's narrowing, and it's nowhere near as large as you make it out to be in countries that are doing significant research. (Well, ok, in the US anyway. I'm too lazy to keep researching this - got a job to keep.) ...but it's R&D investment that is being postulated to steer researchers. I don't expect they care much if the cost of gasoline is artificially depressed.
In the US, the federal government has paid US$74 billion for energy subsidies to support R&D for nuclear power ($50 billion) and fossil fuels ($24 billion) from 1973 to 2003. During this same timeframe, renewable energy technologies and energy efficiency received a total of US$26 billion
So, I'm seeing roughly 3 dollars going into non-carbon for every one going into fossil fuel. No, in US academia, the money is not in fossil fuels.
I believe I hear a window breaking.
Those trillions could be spent on some very useful things. This is exactly the problem with immediately jumping to a solution that requires pouring vast amounts of money into carbon limitations. I *hope* the compromise solution will take place - a quest for more efficient energy usage that makes economic sense in its own right.
I fear we'll legislate our businesses into the ground and make no significant change to the environment.
We need the right amount of regulation. Enough that the game is played equitably but not so much that it is unplayable. I cringe every time there is some scandal like this because I know the next Sarbanes-Oxley overreaction is coming soon so congress can look like it cares.
Why are they showing us alarming pictures comparing winter and the summer in one year?! Yes, ice melts in the summer. This is not informative data. Show us what summer looked like in 1950, 1960, 1970, ... not January 2011 and August 2011. So silly!
It's so hard to get good information on this through all the ideological crap people spew.
~500 megaphants.
Isn't it amazing to compare how old stuff is to our kids to how old stuff was to us? "Why don't you give me a nice paper cut and pour lemon juice on it?"
Gonna be so nasty when the sand works its way into those gears...
So, what we really need to be working on is connecting the output directly to your brain and skipping all that wasted light.
...or, have your stuff on the same servers with their Most Important Customer.
xD
Can you find a 6 year old Cisco router than doesn't support IPv6?
What I want to know is, can I open a new company, produce nothing, and sell the carbon credits I get for not burning any carbon doing it? (Apart from continued respiration of course, as that is very important to me personally.)
...or would I have to establish a pattern of polluting first and then stop it?
If all else fails, I have some trees I could not cut down. There's got to be some easy money in here somewhere.
To make the point more clear, what if I made an identical copy and booted both at the same time. Do you suddenly develop a psychic link with your other self, experiencing both existences at once, living in two different places? ... ridiculous.
I have pondered this same thing many times, and I agree. Imagine going into the office where they make a copy of you. He walks out with new upgraded hardware. You sit in the office waiting for your fatal injection. This doesn't sound like a good deal to me.
...but is this any different from falling asleep at night and waking up in the morning. Isn't our consciousness basically being snuffed out and replaced daily? If not, how can you, the new mind, tell that you are the same "person" as the old mind from yesterday?
The Prestige has an interesting plot along these lines.
"The amount of time Vaidyanathan was away from his chosen profession, both at Seagate and during the litigation, ended his career as a yield engineer."
Was there some reason he couldn't work while he was suing Seagate? Is that a full time job?
That's 0xff in native units for for you slashdotters.
Well, ya. It seems obvious *now*, but...
There are a lot more jobs to be had in the US than Mexico, so it's pretty obvious why people would want to immigrate. What exactly is it that you think would be the personal attraction drawing flocks of people to move to Siberia if the Chinese government isn't pressing them over the border for colonial purposes?
Some of those signs (most in NYC?) are hanging out over the intersections. You'd have to pay me a pretty penny to install those. I wonder how much they would get back selling the old ones...
Ahhaha, you almost had me there with that excellent troll, sir. I applaud you! On the off chance that I misunderstood your intentions, perhaps you can explain what is dishonest about attempting to understand what the original authors meant based on documents of the time? What do you think would be a more honest approach?
I wonder how small the largest piece will be after it hits the surface. Still the materials might be interesting. Do you suppose the AF and Navy get along well enough for the Navy to secure the area?
Doubles as a solar oven during the day! Or perhaps if they cover the entire top of the container with solar panels they could drive an air conditioner with 'em.
Ya just couldn't resist it, couldja?
yes, and good luck closing that visor too
My kingdom for mod points, and thank the gods I wasn't drinking coffee when I read this.
That's ok, we woulda jist mis-pro-nunciated it anyway.