If I understand you correctly, you're saying that Congress has the right to make laws that go against or change the constitution without an amendment. So if Congress passed a law that banned guns completely and the President signed it then it's law and the SCOTUS can't nullify it based on the 2cnd amendment. You're saying I could take my case to the SCOTUS that I can carry a gun based on the 2cnd amendment, then SCOTUS could say yes I can have a gun, but allow the law to remain in effect and only let people have guns on a case by case basis. That doesn't seem like much of checks and balances and to me it doesn't make any sense.
So you're claiming that releasing data on currently in-progress military operations does not cost lives ? Are you daft ?
I see data on currently in-progress military operations daily on the news and internet. Are you claiming that all data on currently in-progress military operations costs lives or just this data? Why?
Laws that wikileaks definitely breaks :
* espionage
* privacy laws
* breaking and entering
* trading in illegal goods
* violating trust placed in them
Just a couple of things I want to say. What 'breaking and entering' did wikileaks do? The information may have been given to them by someone who did that, but wikileaks didn't do it. If they are trading in illegal goods doesn't that make every news organization that repeated the info liable as well? What law is 'violating trust placed in them' and what trust was placed with them to begin with?
I'm not arguing one way or another that what they are doing is right or wrong, I'm just saying if they are definitely breaking these laws as you say why aren't they being charged with that?
All that's needed is standard company wide policies
Bureaucracy is the combined organizational structure, procedures, protocols, and set of regulations in place to manage activity. I'm not sure how company wide policies is not a bureaucracy.
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And can't any standards be approved by consensus?
Sure but if I start a business I will probably lay out rules for adopting new standards once that business is beyond a certain size. I can also ask for consensus in creating new standards but once those standards are in place it's pretty much a bureaucracy again.
Also from Wikipedia...
As opposed to adhocracy, it is often represented by standardized procedure (rule-following) that guides the execution of most or all processes within the body; formal division of powers; hierarchy; and relationships, intended to anticipate needs and improve efficiency.
There are downfalls to bureaucracy like distancing leadership from the rest of the organization. Bureaucracies can become cumbersome but generally if you allow cumbersome bureaucracies to fail someone will come up with a better one. The U.S. Constitution and any constitution is in effect the template for bureaucracy by laying out the "organizational structure, procedures, protocols, and set of regulations in place to manage activity" in the U.S. Interestingly FEMA is considered an adhocracy the opposite of a bureaucracy. Go figure.
Even the model railroad club had rules. You had to log 40 hours before getting a key. Steve Wozniak may have built a computer without a bureaucracy but it's hard to argue Apple functions without one now and it's hard to argue IBM wasn't bureaucratic when deciding what components to use when building the PC. Small loose knit organization can exist without a bureaucracy however I have found that business that refuse to enact a bureaucracy never grow beyond a certain size.
How are you going to mass produce anything without "organizational structure, procedures, protocols, and set of regulations" I'm not sure what examples of mass produced items you're looking for as just about everything is mass produced today by a bureaucracy.
By saying bureaucracies are always bad you are saying "organizational structure, procedures, protocols, and set of regulations" are always bad. To me they seem very necessary. Wikipedia puts bureaucracy as having it's beginnings 10,000 years ago with the start of civilization.
I'm enjoying our conversation and hope you are too. I feel we may be going in circles though. Are you arguing against "organizational structure, procedures, protocols, and set of regulations" or just poor implementations of it?
Surely you will still need a bureaucracy of some sort. Are you not going to have any product consistency across your stores. Pricing? Dress Codes? Starting pay for employees? Product Placement? Vendor preferences? A return policy? If you leave it up to each manager you are going to loose a lot of benefits. Consider your liability when an employee gets fired at one store for something that's completely acceptable at another, inventory control, volume pricing, store branding. Without a bureaucracy a customer will never know what to expect going from one store to another. Are you sure bureaucracies are nothing but bad?
And just how many things have to be mass produced by one producer?
Regardless of how many producers there are mass production requires a consistency of supply and that requires a bureaucracy to set a minimum standards for components.
And what large complex organizations might those be? If you mean governmental organizations, I oppose large government, and want to shrink it not expand it. With a few exceptions I also oppose large corporations, such as too big to fail banks and too big to fail auto makers.
Problem is large and complex applies to city governments and small companies as well. You can open a store and run one without a bureaucracy. If you own 10 stores it is very unlikely you can be successful without a bureaucracy of some sort. It would be very difficult to mass produce anything without bureacracy. Hardly anything in our modern day lives could exist without bureaucracy. Are bureacracies perfect? NO. Is the federal government too big? Yes, but I don't think that's the fault of bureaucracy as much as the politicians running it and an apathetic citenzry.
I still have yet to see anyone offer an alternative to bureaucracy that would work. One could argue that if you made a list of richest to poorest countries you would find more bureaucracy in the richer countries.
You say that like it's a bad thing. From wikipedia: Bureaucracy is the combined organizational structure, procedures, protocols, and set of regulations in place to manage activity. Please do enlighten with a better way to run large complex orginizations.
Everything is not black and white. To say essentially 'because I cannot know everything I should know nothing' is not much of an excuse. Nobody has to be a certified mechanic to know when your mechanic is screwing you, just like nobody needs to program in cobol to know that when your 'tech' asks for 160k a month you might want a second opinion.
Really you don't even need an infinite amount of either. An infinite amount of time and an infinite number of monkeys will produce Shakespeare long before infinity.:)
If my math is right a 320x240 black and white picture is one of 1.269600234e+23119 images. If a computer could go through all of those images they would contain (an albeit grainy) picture of everything.
From E=mc^2 to the crucification of Christ, to hiroshima, to every word ever spoken. To every sentence that can fit in 320x240 and be readable, to formulas yet undiscovered, to porn that would blow your mind. 1.269600234e+23119 may be big but it approaches zero as a percentage of infinity.
No point to my post, I just think it's cool that while my screen/TV/LCD/eyes can produce/see what seems like an infinite number of combinations it is really very finite.
math has little relevance to everybody's daily life.
I disagree. I think part of the problem is math is taught in such an abstract manner. Aside from a few story problems there is little effort to apply math to the real world in the classroom.
Why aren't vectors taught when you learn triangles? Why are Calculus I and Physics I separate classes?
I think story problems should be the base for teaching mathematics. At what age can a kid understand scales and balance compared to the '=' sign?
Many people don't use math to determine whether buying more is cheaper, they just assume. This doesn't mean math is unnecessary. It just means that it's not applied.
Are you arguing that 4 year olds understand the consequences of their actions or that they can learn how to load a gun and shoot at someone like on TV? The two are not necessarily synonymous.
4 year olds often believe in Santa. In fact they will believe pretty much anything you tell them. I think you are overestimating curiosity and a growing brain for one that has reason and cognitive ability.
I think the only reasonable solution is to require a drivers license for bikes. Learning permit if there are training wheels. Why are we letting children operate such dangerous machinery anyway? Kids play outside way too much nowadays. It once was that a safe play environment was one in which the kid was safe. But now we realize that the kids are the dangerous ones. Maybe children should have leash laws like dogs.
I wonder if Google will be sued. I imagine they have the pages cached if you searched for a specific phrase from one of them.
It's hard for the company defend any good faith on its part as it should be easier to put up a pay wall than to hire lawyers and track down IP addresses.
dos is generic like tissue. MS-DOS is a trademark like Kleenex. There was Apple DOS, Amiga DOS, Commodore DOS, Atari DOS, and many more not counting all of the ones on x86 architectures. I feel old.
I'm opposed to the government wasting our money and would never associate myself with the Tea Party. While there are some grass roots elements in the Tea Party much of the press and orginazation is led by Freedom Works and Americans for Prosperity. Most funding for Tea Party events is provided by lobbyist with an agenda. I haven't seen too many bake sales to raise money for the Tea Party. Where do you think all of the money to fund the organization comes from?
I think large companies love the tax system and regulation in the U.S. It creates a greater barrier to entry and makes it hard for smaller companies to compete with them.
You do realize in the youtube clip you link to that Medicare (government run) paid for most of her treatment, including getting a pacemaker so I'm not sure it really backs up your point. There is a ton of waste in medical spending because Americans think more is better and doctors worry that if they don't run every test they'll be sued if something goes wrong. Pointing out that more is not always better does not equal 'death squads'. Did you know every time a woman gets a mammogram it increases her chances for breast cancer. It's a risk/benefit decision that should be made by doctors using reason instead of emotion and fear of a lawsuit.
In the Youtube clip doctors had different opinions of whether a pacemaker would help the elderly lady or not. Doctors came to the conclusion it would help. The government paid for it. Obama starts to address the issue of waste and starts to make the case that people are not always better off with surgery then the clip cuts off. Obama is not a doctor but I have heard doctors say similar things. Sometimes a doctor will give into a patient whether or not something is beneficial to the patient or not because the doctor doesn't want to get sued.
Do I believe tort reform would help? Yes. Do I believe caps are the answer? No. Do I know what the answer is? No. But there is certainly a problem with cost of health care and some regulation needs to be introduced/modified to correct it?
Do I trust corporations more than the government? No. Corporate America has more cash on hand than it has ever had since it's been kept track of. Yet they won't hire anyone because the economy is down. The economy is down because companies won't hire.
Pro tip: Corporations have more control over the economy than the government.
My idea of rural is a little different than others. I graduated with 40 people and we were the biggest class in 20 years. Girls could play basketball or run track (our girls track team had 3 people on it) Boys also had baseball and football. No AP courses, not even by satellite and the closest community college was over 30 miles away. We were the county seat btw. At any rate my idea of rural would not support an IT center anyway.
I went to college in Stillwater, OK population 40k (2000 census). It was more than 20 times bigger than the town I grew up in so I didn't consider it rural. Though I see that everybody else would:) I worked in tech support there too:)
At least in the U.S. it's hard to see how MS can justify anything because of pirates. Unless you build your own PC you are paying for Windows anyway. Even if you specifically look for a prebuilt PC without Windows it's hard (it is a small fraction of the market) to find one where you don't pay for Windows whether or not it's already installed. It is a travesty how hard they make it for legitimate users to reinstall Windows.
In countries where MS doesn't already have a contract to license Windows for every PC sold by a company it's hard to argue that people would pay for Windows separately if they couldn't pirate it.
My roommates laptop came with Vista Home. It has a COA key sticker on the bottom. Unfortunately he didn't make a restore disk before his computer crashed. He got a Vista Home CD from a friend. It installed fine(fine meaning I had to find wireless drivers that would work. Ubuntu sees it out of the box:) ) and then one day came up with the WGA crap. He typed in his valid COA key on the bottom and Vista rejected.
Now I have a few options to help him.
Call MS for support I should never need to activate a valid license.
Install a cracked version of Windows
Give him another reason to use Linux.
Why would MS even create a situation where 2 and 3 look like the least hassle? In the many closed vs open debates that go on here I often see people ask why anyone would complain about a system that is closed and marketed as such. I don't care how it's marketed closed proprietary systems are bad for technology and society. No matter how you market cigarettes they are bad for you. No matter how you market closed proprietary systems they are bad for society. Won't anyone think of the children? Our culture is being DRM'd, manipulated, and controlled by the golden calf instead of by people.
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If I understand you correctly, you're saying that Congress has the right to make laws that go against or change the constitution without an amendment. So if Congress passed a law that banned guns completely and the President signed it then it's law and the SCOTUS can't nullify it based on the 2cnd amendment. You're saying I could take my case to the SCOTUS that I can carry a gun based on the 2cnd amendment, then SCOTUS could say yes I can have a gun, but allow the law to remain in effect and only let people have guns on a case by case basis. That doesn't seem like much of checks and balances and to me it doesn't make any sense.
So you're claiming that releasing data on currently in-progress military operations does not cost lives ? Are you daft ?
I see data on currently in-progress military operations daily on the news and internet. Are you claiming that all data on currently in-progress military operations costs lives or just this data? Why?
Laws that wikileaks definitely breaks : * espionage * privacy laws * breaking and entering * trading in illegal goods * violating trust placed in them
Just a couple of things I want to say. What 'breaking and entering' did wikileaks do? The information may have been given to them by someone who did that, but wikileaks didn't do it. If they are trading in illegal goods doesn't that make every news organization that repeated the info liable as well? What law is 'violating trust placed in them' and what trust was placed with them to begin with?
I'm not arguing one way or another that what they are doing is right or wrong, I'm just saying if they are definitely breaking these laws as you say why aren't they being charged with that?
All that's needed is standard company wide policies
Bureaucracy is the combined organizational structure, procedures, protocols, and set of regulations in place to manage activity. I'm not sure how company wide policies is not a bureaucracy.
,
And can't any standards be approved by consensus?
Sure but if I start a business I will probably lay out rules for adopting new standards once that business is beyond a certain size. I can also ask for consensus in creating new standards but once those standards are in place it's pretty much a bureaucracy again.
Also from Wikipedia...
As opposed to adhocracy, it is often represented by standardized procedure (rule-following) that guides the execution of most or all processes within the body; formal division of powers; hierarchy; and relationships, intended to anticipate needs and improve efficiency.
There are downfalls to bureaucracy like distancing leadership from the rest of the organization. Bureaucracies can become cumbersome but generally if you allow cumbersome bureaucracies to fail someone will come up with a better one. The U.S. Constitution and any constitution is in effect the template for bureaucracy by laying out the "organizational structure, procedures, protocols, and set of regulations in place to manage activity" in the U.S. Interestingly FEMA is considered an adhocracy the opposite of a bureaucracy. Go figure.
Even the model railroad club had rules. You had to log 40 hours before getting a key. Steve Wozniak may have built a computer without a bureaucracy but it's hard to argue Apple functions without one now and it's hard to argue IBM wasn't bureaucratic when deciding what components to use when building the PC. Small loose knit organization can exist without a bureaucracy however I have found that business that refuse to enact a bureaucracy never grow beyond a certain size.
How are you going to mass produce anything without "organizational structure, procedures, protocols, and set of regulations" I'm not sure what examples of mass produced items you're looking for as just about everything is mass produced today by a bureaucracy.
By saying bureaucracies are always bad you are saying "organizational structure, procedures, protocols, and set of regulations" are always bad. To me they seem very necessary. Wikipedia puts bureaucracy as having it's beginnings 10,000 years ago with the start of civilization.
I'm enjoying our conversation and hope you are too. I feel we may be going in circles though. Are you arguing against "organizational structure, procedures, protocols, and set of regulations" or just poor implementations of it?
And just how many things have to be mass produced by one producer?
Regardless of how many producers there are mass production requires a consistency of supply and that requires a bureaucracy to set a minimum standards for components.
And what large complex organizations might those be? If you mean governmental organizations, I oppose large government, and want to shrink it not expand it. With a few exceptions I also oppose large corporations, such as too big to fail banks and too big to fail auto makers.
Problem is large and complex applies to city governments and small companies as well. You can open a store and run one without a bureaucracy. If you own 10 stores it is very unlikely you can be successful without a bureaucracy of some sort. It would be very difficult to mass produce anything without bureacracy. Hardly anything in our modern day lives could exist without bureaucracy. Are bureacracies perfect? NO. Is the federal government too big? Yes, but I don't think that's the fault of bureaucracy as much as the politicians running it and an apathetic citenzry.
I still have yet to see anyone offer an alternative to bureaucracy that would work. One could argue that if you made a list of richest to poorest countries you would find more bureaucracy in the richer countries.
It just more bureaucracy
You say that like it's a bad thing. From wikipedia: Bureaucracy is the combined organizational structure, procedures, protocols, and set of regulations in place to manage activity. Please do enlighten with a better way to run large complex orginizations.
Everything is not black and white. To say essentially 'because I cannot know everything I should know nothing' is not much of an excuse. Nobody has to be a certified mechanic to know when your mechanic is screwing you, just like nobody needs to program in cobol to know that when your 'tech' asks for 160k a month you might want a second opinion.
Really you don't even need an infinite amount of either. An infinite amount of time and an infinite number of monkeys will produce Shakespeare long before infinity. :)
If my math is right a 320x240 black and white picture is one of 1.269600234e+23119 images. If a computer could go through all of those images they would contain (an albeit grainy) picture of everything.
From E=mc^2 to the crucification of Christ, to hiroshima, to every word ever spoken. To every sentence that can fit in 320x240 and be readable, to formulas yet undiscovered, to porn that would blow your mind. 1.269600234e+23119 may be big but it approaches zero as a percentage of infinity.
No point to my post, I just think it's cool that while my screen/TV/LCD/eyes can produce/see what seems like an infinite number of combinations it is really very finite.
Better than googling pink sock.
math has little relevance to everybody's daily life.
I disagree. I think part of the problem is math is taught in such an abstract manner. Aside from a few story problems there is little effort to apply math to the real world in the classroom.
Why aren't vectors taught when you learn triangles? Why are Calculus I and Physics I separate classes?
I think story problems should be the base for teaching mathematics. At what age can a kid understand scales and balance compared to the '=' sign?
Many people don't use math to determine whether buying more is cheaper, they just assume. This doesn't mean math is unnecessary. It just means that it's not applied.
Are you arguing that 4 year olds understand the consequences of their actions or that they can learn how to load a gun and shoot at someone like on TV? The two are not necessarily synonymous.
Clearly the parents are responsible because the child was not on a leash.
4 year olds often believe in Santa. In fact they will believe pretty much anything you tell them. I think you are overestimating curiosity and a growing brain for one that has reason and cognitive ability.
I think the only reasonable solution is to require a drivers license for bikes. Learning permit if there are training wheels. Why are we letting children operate such dangerous machinery anyway? Kids play outside way too much nowadays. It once was that a safe play environment was one in which the kid was safe. But now we realize that the kids are the dangerous ones. Maybe children should have leash laws like dogs.
I wonder if Google will be sued. I imagine they have the pages cached if you searched for a specific phrase from one of them.
It's hard for the company defend any good faith on its part as it should be easier to put up a pay wall than to hire lawyers and track down IP addresses.
Does that mean all societies (being inherently social) are left? Does that mean anarchy is right?
Did Jesus live a socialist or capitalist life? Why is religion generally considered right?
dos is generic like tissue. MS-DOS is a trademark like Kleenex. There was Apple DOS, Amiga DOS, Commodore DOS, Atari DOS, and many more not counting all of the ones on x86 architectures. I feel old.
I'm opposed to the government wasting our money and would never associate myself with the Tea Party. While there are some grass roots elements in the Tea Party much of the press and orginazation is led by Freedom Works and Americans for Prosperity. Most funding for Tea Party events is provided by lobbyist with an agenda. I haven't seen too many bake sales to raise money for the Tea Party. Where do you think all of the money to fund the organization comes from?
I think large companies love the tax system and regulation in the U.S. It creates a greater barrier to entry and makes it hard for smaller companies to compete with them.
As far as I'm aware Fox is the only one that went to court to defend their right to lie.
You do realize in the youtube clip you link to that Medicare (government run) paid for most of her treatment, including getting a pacemaker so I'm not sure it really backs up your point. There is a ton of waste in medical spending because Americans think more is better and doctors worry that if they don't run every test they'll be sued if something goes wrong. Pointing out that more is not always better does not equal 'death squads'. Did you know every time a woman gets a mammogram it increases her chances for breast cancer. It's a risk/benefit decision that should be made by doctors using reason instead of emotion and fear of a lawsuit.
In the Youtube clip doctors had different opinions of whether a pacemaker would help the elderly lady or not. Doctors came to the conclusion it would help. The government paid for it. Obama starts to address the issue of waste and starts to make the case that people are not always better off with surgery then the clip cuts off. Obama is not a doctor but I have heard doctors say similar things. Sometimes a doctor will give into a patient whether or not something is beneficial to the patient or not because the doctor doesn't want to get sued.
Do I believe tort reform would help? Yes. Do I believe caps are the answer? No. Do I know what the answer is? No. But there is certainly a problem with cost of health care and some regulation needs to be introduced/modified to correct it?
Do I trust corporations more than the government? No. Corporate America has more cash on hand than it has ever had since it's been kept track of. Yet they won't hire anyone because the economy is down. The economy is down because companies won't hire.
Pro tip: Corporations have more control over the economy than the government.
My idea of rural is a little different than others. I graduated with 40 people and we were the biggest class in 20 years. Girls could play basketball or run track (our girls track team had 3 people on it) Boys also had baseball and football. No AP courses, not even by satellite and the closest community college was over 30 miles away. We were the county seat btw. At any rate my idea of rural would not support an IT center anyway.
:) I worked in tech support there too :)
I went to college in Stillwater, OK population 40k (2000 census). It was more than 20 times bigger than the town I grew up in so I didn't consider it rural. Though I see that everybody else would
Rural schools can be rather lacking in AP classes, extra curricular activities and college credits.
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At least in the U.S. it's hard to see how MS can justify anything because of pirates. Unless you build your own PC you are paying for Windows anyway. Even if you specifically look for a prebuilt PC without Windows it's hard (it is a small fraction of the market) to find one where you don't pay for Windows whether or not it's already installed. It is a travesty how hard they make it for legitimate users to reinstall Windows.
:) ) and then one day came up with the WGA crap. He typed in his valid COA key on the bottom and Vista rejected.
In countries where MS doesn't already have a contract to license Windows for every PC sold by a company it's hard to argue that people would pay for Windows separately if they couldn't pirate it.
My roommates laptop came with Vista Home. It has a COA key sticker on the bottom. Unfortunately he didn't make a restore disk before his computer crashed. He got a Vista Home CD from a friend. It installed fine(fine meaning I had to find wireless drivers that would work. Ubuntu sees it out of the box
Now I have a few options to help him.
Call MS for support I should never need to activate a valid license.
Install a cracked version of Windows
Give him another reason to use Linux.
Why would MS even create a situation where 2 and 3 look like the least hassle? In the many closed vs open debates that go on here I often see people ask why anyone would complain about a system that is closed and marketed as such. I don't care how it's marketed closed proprietary systems are bad for technology and society. No matter how you market cigarettes they are bad for you. No matter how you market closed proprietary systems they are bad for society. Won't anyone think of the children? Our culture is being DRM'd, manipulated, and controlled by the golden calf instead of by people.