Your 8 cylinder engine pollutes MY air, and causes more demand for oil, which raises MY price for gas (& sends money to lots of countries that hate us).
One's freedom starts having limits when it affects other people.
The iPhone did what Microsoft, and Apple itself failed to do with desktop computers. Make computers that people didn't need to study to use.
Say what? Apple's GUI came out first, and had/has the same kind of consistent interface language (spelled out in the Human Interface Guidelines) that you say the iPhone has. (I see Windows fans often complain about the inconsistencies between apps.)
The iPhone introduced the home button, which consistently led you back to the home screen no matter where you were in the phone.
I agree with you with most of the issues (and have posted other messages in this thread disagreeing with the people who seem to think the iPhone had nothing even _evolutionary_ about it).
But about this issue, MAYBE the home button/concept was in a _phone_ first on the iPhone. I don't know. However, the concept isn't new. For example, the TiVo button on a TiVo brings you back to the main screen no matter where you started.
According to Wikipedia (which has citations): Olds (as in -mobile) used the assembly line 7 years before Ford, and there are previous examples centuries before that.
Smartphones were perfectly usable before. Making them pretty is not the same as making them useable.
Could you browse "the regular web" on smartphones before the iPhone? Not WAP, regular "real world" web pages, and USE THEM, on a 3.5" screen. (Yes, there was/is no Flash.)
Also, while there wasn't third party native software initially on the iPhone, why didn't Palm and other devices end up having such huge third party software libraries? (I know a few people who did work on Palm software at one point, all eventually ended up at Apple or back at Apple.)
I wasn't actually referring to ARM.. I meant ANY app.. if Word for example runs in both (I seem to remember it does), then if one app can handle both UIs in one app _might_ be advantageous to having two separate apps.
(I can also imagine it might be better having two completely separate binaries with shared libraries instead.. it would require less/no Desktop/Metro mode checks so the version for each UI could be smaller.)
It works better this time around because Win8 does have a touch centric UI. And it comes with a framework (several, actually) to enable developers to write their own apps that work well with touch, and blend into that new UI. Exactly as iPad did - except without completely exorcising all the old stuff.
So the developers *HAVE TO WRITE NEW APPS*, just like they did/do for iPad/iPhone.
BTW, you say "except without completely exorcising all the old stuff", but aren't the two IEs (Metro & Windows) completely different apps? I thought reviews have said they are (instead of one app that can accommodate both UIs).. That shows even more that developers have to write new apps⦠so how is having the non-touch-optimized (and often unusable with fingers) apps around going to help?
Apple's been spending money since the 70s building their reputation as a luxury brand. Same reason they can charge twice as much for a laptop of the same performance and build quality of the top tier PC vendors.
When were Apple IIs advertised as a luxury brand?
Also, now you're saying build quality as top tier PC vendors? Like I said in another thread recently, whenever the CNET video podcasts try to match MacBook Airs or Macbook Pros, some are more expensive, and they basically never come close, in their opinion, in all areas. The trackpad is one that comes up commonly, the best ones are "almost as good".
I'm still not trying to nitpick, but why isn't Mac OS "a full-blown UNIX OS"?
Yes, you don't have to (and shouldn't have to, IMHO) ever use Terminal. But you can, and it's shipped there IN THE STANDARD USER OS INSTALLATION, not as an extra 'developer' tool.
The real problem is that I'm an adult and I can decide for myself whether or not I will wear a helmet. The government doesn't need to make this decision for me.
I agree with you, if I don't have to pay to scrape you you off the road.
(BTW, I hate wearing helmets too⦠actually, I hate "bike helmets", I think I wouldn't mind regular motorcycle type helmets as much⦠but I got a bike helmet with our work bike share program, and use it as condition of being in the program.)
Plus, whenever CNET does a MacBook Pro or MacBook Air-like Top 5 video podcast, at least one of them ends up costing more than the Apple product they're comparing to, and usually has a detrimental issue too (cheap case, etc..) Also, on other PC laptop reviews, whenever they talk about the trackpads, they almost always make comparisons to the trackpads in Mac laptops, once in a while getting to "almost as good as"..
In short, the dream of running UNIX on consumer devices has become reality, though in a way nobody expected.
Obviously you mentioned OS X. How is that 'in a way nobody expected'? Is it because it's not a Linux variant?
I say this, typing this in a Safari window, with Terminal beside it (running alpine in one window). I constantly switch between doing GUI things and doing things in Terminal.
Why should they be REQUIRED to use the free books?
Having the free books is a good idea (though having to sign a law for this seems extreme). What if one of the for pay books actually has better information/teaching methods?
I suspect they will gravitate to the free books _if they are sufficiently useful_. Probably more for "lower level" classes.
Way back in college, for elective classes, at least one class' book was one of the college printer's books filled with short sections of other books.. So it was much cheaper.
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I practically never get up anywhere near that early⦠Why would I do it in 15 years??
(joking)
He said "His writing sucks." Since I am reading his writing, for consistency's sake, it should be held to the same standards.
He used the wrong spelling for "it's," spelled the singer's first name wrong, and didn't capitalize either name.
Mr. Pot, meet Mr. Kettle.
(I have never read any of his work, by the way.)
Don't SUVs all fit into that too? That's why they aren't having to raise their fuel efficiency standards too, right?
Your 8 cylinder engine pollutes MY air, and causes more demand for oil, which raises MY price for gas (& sends money to lots of countries that hate us).
One's freedom starts having limits when it affects other people.
The producers get the Best Picture Academy Award (aka Oscar). So in that case, finance _does_ get the glory.
Say what? Apple's GUI came out first, and had/has the same kind of consistent interface language (spelled out in the Human Interface Guidelines) that you say the iPhone has. (I see Windows fans often complain about the inconsistencies between apps.)
Being able to actually USE it without reading a huge freaking manual.
Not having to use the 222 55 kind of letters-via-numbers input.
Like I said in the other subthread, being able to use the same web sites used in a desktop browser.
"huge app stores"? I mean in sales and/or numbers. Thousands, tens of thousands of apps?
How did you browse the web on your Windows Mobile phone? Seriously. How did you zoom in/out to various areas to make it usable on a small screen?
Also, even now, many sites try to bring you to a mobile version of the site. They didn't used to do that then for WAP versions?
I agree with you with most of the issues (and have posted other messages in this thread disagreeing with the people who seem to think the iPhone had nothing even _evolutionary_ about it).
But about this issue, MAYBE the home button/concept was in a _phone_ first on the iPhone. I don't know. However, the concept isn't new. For example, the TiVo button on a TiVo brings you back to the main screen no matter where you started.
What about Apple making a smartphone that was "viable for use by normal people".
You're talking about evolution in other areas, analogous to what the iPhone did to previous phones.
According to Wikipedia (which has citations):
Olds (as in -mobile) used the assembly line 7 years before Ford, and there are previous examples centuries before that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assembly_line
Could you browse "the regular web" on smartphones before the iPhone? Not WAP, regular "real world" web pages, and USE THEM, on a 3.5" screen. (Yes, there was/is no Flash.)
Also, while there wasn't third party native software initially on the iPhone, why didn't Palm and other devices end up having such huge third party software libraries? (I know a few people who did work on Palm software at one point, all eventually ended up at Apple or back at Apple.)
Anybody can google it as easily as I can, but here it is:
http://slashdot.org/story/02/02/14/143254/kathleen-fent-read-this-story
Also, one about it:
http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/10-years-after-famous-slashdot-marriage-proposal-couple-discusses-wisdom-popping-question-public-0
The "geekiest marriage proposals ever":
http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/71300
I wasn't actually referring to ARM.. I meant ANY app.. if Word for example runs in both (I seem to remember it does), then if one app can handle both UIs in one app _might_ be advantageous to having two separate apps.
(I can also imagine it might be better having two completely separate binaries with shared libraries instead.. it would require less/no Desktop/Metro mode checks so the version for each UI could be smaller.)
So the developers *HAVE TO WRITE NEW APPS*, just like they did/do for iPad/iPhone.
BTW, you say "except without completely exorcising all the old stuff", but aren't the two IEs (Metro & Windows) completely different apps? I thought reviews have said they are (instead of one app that can accommodate both UIs).. That shows even more that developers have to write new apps⦠so how is having the non-touch-optimized (and often unusable with fingers) apps around going to help?
When were Apple IIs advertised as a luxury brand?
Also, now you're saying build quality as top tier PC vendors? Like I said in another thread recently, whenever the CNET video podcasts try to match MacBook Airs or Macbook Pros, some are more expensive, and they basically never come close, in their opinion, in all areas. The trackpad is one that comes up commonly, the best ones are "almost as good".
People camp out for concert tickets & video game releases.
I'm still not trying to nitpick, but why isn't Mac OS "a full-blown UNIX OS"?
Yes, you don't have to (and shouldn't have to, IMHO) ever use Terminal. But you can, and it's shipped there IN THE STANDARD USER OS INSTALLATION, not as an extra 'developer' tool.
I agree with you, if I don't have to pay to scrape you you off the road.
(BTW, I hate wearing helmets too⦠actually, I hate "bike helmets", I think I wouldn't mind regular motorcycle type helmets as much⦠but I got a bike helmet with our work bike share program, and use it as condition of being in the program.)
Plus, whenever CNET does a MacBook Pro or MacBook Air-like Top 5 video podcast, at least one of them ends up costing more than the Apple product they're comparing to, and usually has a detrimental issue too (cheap case, etc..) Also, on other PC laptop reviews, whenever they talk about the trackpads, they almost always make comparisons to the trackpads in Mac laptops, once in a while getting to "almost as good as"..
(BTW, I don't have a MacBook Air.)
Obviously you mentioned OS X. How is that 'in a way nobody expected'? Is it because it's not a Linux variant?
I say this, typing this in a Safari window, with Terminal beside it (running alpine in one window). I constantly switch between doing GUI things and doing things in Terminal.
Are all of those companies legally incorporated as the same "type" of company?
In other words, even without for profit vs non-profit differences, are there different types of companies?
Why should they be REQUIRED to use the free books?
Having the free books is a good idea (though having to sign a law for this seems extreme). What if one of the for pay books actually has better information/teaching methods?
I suspect they will gravitate to the free books _if they are sufficiently useful_. Probably more for "lower level" classes.
Way back in college, for elective classes, at least one class' book was one of the college printer's books filled with short sections of other books.. So it was much cheaper.
Then they should be hiring more women scientists!
Ba dum psh!