CmdrTaco Looks Back on Fifteen Years of Slashdot

Yeah, welcome to the club, pal by crazyjj · 2012-10-03 04:28 · Score: 5, Insightful

Over the last few years, my light hearted sarcasm was slowly replaced by bitterness. Somewhere along the line became unable to hide my feelings from my friends, family and finally even my co-workers.

Yeah, that's called "aging" and it's pretty common. Generally speaking, your chronological age bears a proportional relationship to the percentage of time you spend bitching about shit. By the time you're collecting Social Security, it's pretty much 95% bitching (the other 5% consisting mostly of bragging about your retarded grandkids, who you think are geniuses for some reason).

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Re:Yeah, welcome to the club, pal by 0racle · 2012-10-03 04:30 · Score: 0, Troll

I can't wait to see this modded 'Insightful.' Slashdot truly is in decline if it doesn't happen.

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Re:Yeah, welcome to the club, pal by ccguy · 2012-10-03 04:38 · Score: 2, Interesting

By the time you're collecting Social Security, it's pretty much 95% bitching (the other 5% consisting mostly of bragging about your retarded grandkids, who you think are geniuses for some reason).
The slashdot population will no doubt spend that 5% doing something else. Probably bitching to new programmers about how their language is crap because it was designed for retards, as opposed to the ones we used to have that really exercised the brain.
Re:Yeah, welcome to the club, pal by Lumpy · 2012-10-03 05:07 · Score: 1

GET OFF MY LAWN!
Damn Kids.... mumble mumble.... TURNIPS!.... mumble mumble....

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Re:Yeah, welcome to the club, pal by expo53d · 2012-10-03 05:18 · Score: 1

You fancy kids and your Python scripts. Bring me back my Cobalt!
Re:Yeah, welcome to the club, pal by JustOK · 2012-10-03 05:24 · Score: 3, Funny

Back in my day we spelled it Cobol AND WE LIKED IT!

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Re:Yeah, welcome to the club, pal by Cid+Highwind · 2012-10-03 05:58 · Score: 5, Funny

You kids today with your shift keys and CAPS LOCK. We had to spell it COBOL, because we were too poor to afford lower-case letters.

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Re:Yeah, welcome to the club, pal by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-03 06:15 · Score: 1

In Soviet Russia, lower-case letters are too poor to afford YOU!
Re:Yeah, welcome to the club, pal by mcgrew · 2012-10-03 06:50 · Score: 1

I think he was referring to crushing cobalt to make blue pigments with. But back in MY day we spelled "Cobol" COBOL because it's an acronym. I probably misremeber (the old brain cells get calcified, ya know) it stood for Crappy Old Bad Obsolete Language. Oh, wait... no, that's not right. COmmon Business-Oriented Language.
And yes, that "calcified" was a nod to the late great Asimov's Foundation. AND WE LIKED IT!

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Re:Yeah, welcome to the club, pal by crazyjj · 2012-10-03 06:59 · Score: 2

In my day it was spelled 0110001101101111011000100110111101101100.

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Re:Yeah, welcome to the club, pal by grub · 2012-10-03 07:10 · Score: 1

Taco really should post a goatse link to /.
Only then will he be Free.

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Re:Yeah, welcome to the club, pal by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-03 07:55 · Score: 0

This is forced and not funny. Yet someone modded it up.
Re:Yeah, welcome to the club, pal by mcgrew · 2012-10-03 08:21 · Score: 2

Yeah, that's called "aging" and it's pretty common.
Common, yes, but not universal. In six decades you've experienced a hell of a lot more pain (and joy) than someone a third of your age. Most people start falling apart when they hit 40 (I was lucky, I've been in pain since I was a teenager, I hurt a lot worse then). When you're old you have a lot more to bitch about and a lot less to be glad of. Plus you have these dumbass kids who you used to be who think they know everything like you used to think you did.
But in Taco's case, he's not nearly old enough to be telling kids to get off his lawn or to be bitter and bitching. I'm actually a bit surprised. WTF does he have to be bitter about?

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Re:Yeah, welcome to the club, pal by Aighearach · 2012-10-03 09:56 · Score: 3, Insightful

But in Taco's case, he's not nearly old enough to be telling kids to get off his lawn or to be bitter and bitching. I'm actually a bit surprised. WTF does he have to be bitter about?
Because it isn't an age issue, it is a been-at-this-job-too-long issue.
Re:Yeah, welcome to the club, pal by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-03 18:59 · Score: 0

your chronological age bears a proportional relationship to the percentage of time you spend bitching about shit.
So what you're saying is, my wife lied to me and is a lot older than she claims?
Re:Yeah, welcome to the club, pal by tehcyder · 2012-10-03 21:10 · Score: 1

This is forced and not funny. Yet someone modded it up.
Nostalgia for the old days.

There has only ever been one funny "Soviet reversal" joke, which was Smirnoff's original.

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Re:Yeah, welcome to the club, pal by tehcyder · 2012-10-03 21:27 · Score: 1

Most people start falling apart when they hit 40
No they don't. Judging by my parents' generation I'd say more like 70 - 75 as long as they were medically fairly average (but still smoked, drank too much, etc,) Their parents started declining at about 60 -65. I'm expecting to be relatively fit and mobile at 80.

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Re:Yeah, welcome to the club, pal by mcgrew · 2012-10-04 00:52 · Score: 1

It varies from person to person, of course. I'm still healthy at 60, but a whole lot of folks my age have artificial joints, are on medications for various alments, etc. I've known several people to die of heart attacks at 40; you can hardly fall apart more than dying.

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The Problem with Trading Hands by eldavojohn · 2012-10-03 04:33 · Score: 4, Interesting

We found one that could: Selling Slashdot was the right decision at the time: we never could have survived the growth, and the lean years after the bubble burst. However, the long term consequences of the decision wouldn’t be clear for years.

This is so obvious to me. It's like watching a band sign a big contract thinking it's the greatest thing to ever happen to them. Even with the latest move Slashdot editors think it's only a good thing. If you sell, you need to consider that you're selling your freedom, your control and your future. The bigger the company you're sold to, the most abstracted away from you all those things are. So consider all that and price it accordingly. I mean, now it'll probably go to the highest bidder ... what if a giant just wanted to buy Slashdot to shut it down because of the negative press it generates for them?

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Re:The Problem with Trading Hands by crazyjj · 2012-10-03 04:34 · Score: 3, Insightful

Slashdot editors publicly claim they think it's only a good thing
FTFY

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Re:The Problem with Trading Hands by phantomfive · 2012-10-03 04:41 · Score: 4, Insightful

It's the most depressing article ever on Slashdot. It makes it sound like Slashdot is dying.

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Re:The Problem with Trading Hands by CubicleZombie · 2012-10-03 04:43 · Score: 3, Informative

However, the long term consequences of the decision wouldn’t be clear for years.
Consequences like the MTV "Jersey Shore" banner ad on this article.

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Re:The Problem with Trading Hands by Onymous+Hero · 2012-10-03 05:05 · Score: 5, Funny

It's the most depressing article ever on Slashdot. It makes it sound like Slashdot is dying.
Let's not jump to conclusions - after all, Netcraft hasn't confirmed anything yet...
Re:The Problem with Trading Hands by AnotherShep · 2012-10-03 05:06 · Score: 3, Interesting

Is Netcraft here to confirm it?
Re:The Problem with Trading Hands by Lumpy · 2012-10-03 05:11 · Score: 4, Insightful

It has been for years, you should have been here in the beginning.
The biggest problem is that the fight against the trolls and shills was lost. I have watched really good insighful posts get modded to oblivion because it said anything negative about Android, even when it was 100% true and offered a solution. Same for Microsoft Shills and shill mods. The Moderator system seems to be really easy to game, and it's really really easy to make an autoposter that reposts the +5 comments to the dupes to get into the moderation pool. Read at -1 and look at the insane amount of spam that get's on the site.
Although slashdot could get worse, Gawker Media could buy Slashdot and install their crap-tastic commenting system.

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Re:The Problem with Trading Hands by korgitser · 2012-10-03 05:17 · Score: 5, Insightful

what if a giant just wanted to buy Slashdot to shut it down because of the negative press it generates for them?
Easy.. we'll make our own slashdot, with blackjack and hookers. On second thought, scrap the /.

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Re:The Problem with Trading Hands by smooth+wombat · 2012-10-03 05:23 · Score: 1

Read at -1 and look at the insane amount of spam that get's on the site.

I have no choice but to browse at -1. Even though I tell the system to browse at 1, I see everything.

I guess selling wasn't the smartest move since this simple act can't be done correctly.

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Re:The Problem with Trading Hands by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-03 05:51 · Score: 1

It's like watching a band sign a big contract thinking it's the greatest thing to ever happen to them.

You're really missing the point here. A band, just like Slashdot, reaches a point where they have to make a decision. They can either realize that they're never going to get enough of a leg up on the industry so they either need to let their work go or they need to sign. If they let their work go they choose to let themselves drown, if they sign they need to navigate a sea of corporate sharks and hope they come out ahead.

It's a depressing set of circumstances but sooner or later you either have to go big or go home in certain industries. Sorry if that burns some on a self-rightous level, it must or there wouldn't be all this crying about it. If you're good enough at what you do you'll be given free reign and you'll be able to use corporations as a stepping stone instead of being their servent. Plenty of others have done it, most don't know how.
Re:The Problem with Trading Hands by hazah · 2012-10-03 05:54 · Score: 1

Ahh forget the whole thing.
Re:The Problem with Trading Hands by TheRaven64 · 2012-10-03 05:57 · Score: 1

I think his point is that people who can't tell the difference between 1, 0, and -1 probably didn't get a great deal when they sold...

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Re:The Problem with Trading Hands by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-03 06:03 · Score: 0

What moderation/commenting system is better?
Re:The Problem with Trading Hands by Saxerman · 2012-10-03 07:02 · Score: 2

The internet is a big place. And the competitive advantage held by the early Slashdot was the community. Certainly a 'nerd news' feed was also relatively nice and novel, but all that can be easily duplicated elsewhere. And it was. But for perhaps the first decade Slashdot was around, it felt like a quasi-niche group of smart kids. But too much of a good thing becomes... some other kind of thing. More and more people arrived and started to comment. Some of the old timers left. Eternal September had come to Slashdot.
I still read here regularly. I even comment occasionally. But I no longer think of this place as the nerd-cool water cooler chat room. Things change. After the meta newsfeed there was the meta-meta news feeds. The meta cubed and squared stuff is coming. The real challenge will be the same one Slashdot faced. How do you attract the positive community you want, while exuding those you don't want... without making the rest feel excluded?

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Re:The Problem with Trading Hands by localhost8080 · 2012-10-03 07:18 · Score: 1

I lost track during the SCO wars. its not been the same since :(
Re:The Problem with Trading Hands by Soulskill · 2012-10-03 07:23 · Score: 2

I have no choice but to browse at -1. Even though I tell the system to browse at 1, I see everything.
Is this on the mobile version of the page? That's a known bug that should be addressed by the new mobile site, which is available at http://mbeta.slashdot.org/. If not, can you provide details about your browser version and OS version, and perhaps a screenshot of what you're seeing? The comment slider is currently working as expect for me on all my browsers. If you'd like to do so privately, feel free to email soulskill@slashdot.org (or feedback@slashdot.org where the engineers will see it as well).
Re:The Problem with Trading Hands by couchslug · 2012-10-03 09:16 · Score: 0

Slashdot isn't going back to the Old Ways. Nothing of value will be lost if it does die, now.
What sites do the hive mind recommend which have "News for Nerds"?

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Re:The Problem with Trading Hands by Tenebrousedge · 2012-10-03 09:48 · Score: 1

Pish. Like there weren't always trolls and shills, and idiot moderators.
The moderation system works. Even Hacker News says so. Their main improvement is that there's no "funny" mod. Their main problem is that there's no "funny" mod. Also a relentless fixation on wheel-reinventing startup web technologies*, but that's to be expected.
Browsing the site at high moderation levels gives you an extremely high S/N ratio. Yes, it's sad that $name doesn't post here any more. Lots of great people still do, though. I'll stick around for the community here for as long as it exists.
Also, for the record, every problem I've ever had with the UI was solved by switching to D1. Sorry Soulskill :(
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Re:The Problem with Trading Hands by thereitis · 2012-10-03 10:03 · Score: 2

Good question. One thought I had was to treat moderation as a separate layer from the comments themselves. Support competing moderation systems and let readers choose the moderation system they prefer - least popular options get retired, most popular options can be improved on. Unfortunately that 'dilutes' the readers over several systems but with Slashdot's large readership it might be feasible.
Re:The Problem with Trading Hands by tehcyder · 2012-10-03 21:59 · Score: 1

However, the long term consequences of the decision wouldn’t be clear for years.
Consequences like the MTV "Jersey Shore" banner ad on this article.
If you choose to view ads, it's a bit futile then complaining about them. All advertising is shit, the only question is whether you will put up with x amount of annoyance in return for viewing stuff for nothing (if they are somehow unblockable).

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Re:The Problem with Trading Hands by fgouget · 2012-10-03 23:47 · Score: 1

The Moderator system seems to be really easy to game, and it's really really easy to make an autoposter that reposts the +5 comments to the dupes to get into the moderation pool. Read at -1 and look at the insane amount of spam that get's on the site.
That spam ends up at -1 shows the moderation system at least does something useful. There are other sites I read regularly that also allow comments but none let you score or filter comments. Every time I wish they had a moderation system like Slashdot (to be fair they have far shorter comment threads and maybe they would not have enough moderators per thread to achieve meaningful scores).
Re:The Problem with Trading Hands by wirelessduck · 2012-10-04 00:20 · Score: 1

Slashdot confirms it. Netcraft is dying...

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AC the whole time by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-03 04:35 · Score: 5, Interesting

I've been here since the start, but I've never wanted or felt I needed to create an account.
In an age where we'll soon see sites require a facebook login for access (Or worse yet, a "like") despite all the "Natalie Portman, naked and petrified" and "Hot grits" and page widening trolls, thanks for keeping anonymous access an option.

AC- Anonymous before "Anonymous"

Re:AC the whole time by FatAlb3rt · 2012-10-03 04:47 · Score: 5, Funny

Seriously - why are you still showing your face around here?! I've seen some of the stuff you've written. Most of it foul, disgusting, or just downright stoopid.
Re:AC the whole time by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-03 04:55 · Score: 0

Now now Mister Haynesworth it is not as if you never had an off day.
Re:AC the whole time by nevermore94 · 2012-10-03 06:19 · Score: 1

I have also followed /. since it had the original college domain name but I never bothered to create an account until one day I finally wanted to submit a story. If I had any idea how big of a deal having a small UID would have become I certainly would have registered much earlier. Oh well, at least I like my big 6 digit UID because Seven ate Nine and I graduated in 94.

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Re:AC the whole time by afidel · 2012-10-03 06:22 · Score: 3, Funny

I would have done the same had it not been for John Katz, the day they added the option to block authors for registered users was the day I signed up.

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Re:AC the whole time by Falconhell · 2012-10-08 13:48 · Score: 1

Funny how some people resent katz, I always liked his stuff, and never saw any good reason for all the hate.
Eventually I decided people who write well are hated for some reason. Strange.

Thank you! by farrellj · 2012-10-03 04:37 · Score: 5, Interesting

For spending that time to create this community. I've had many years of enjoyment from your work!

From an early admirer...

Farrell

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Re:Thank you! by Drey · 2012-10-03 07:28 · Score: 2

* Pours out some of his 0x28 ounce *
Re:Thank you! by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-03 10:25 · Score: 0

For spending that time to create this community. I've had many years of enjoyment from your work!
... while at my work.
(also from an early admirer, Farewell.)

Hmm.. by platypusfriend · 2012-10-03 04:38 · Score: 1

I guess I don't feel like such an idiot for using vim and tailing my access log. :)

A good read by willie3204 · 2012-10-03 04:39 · Score: 4, Insightful

And one that any person who reads slashdot daily should take in.
Being slashdotted still means something to the people that were around when it happened daily...

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Re:A good read by Nocturnal+Deviant · 2012-10-03 05:41 · Score: 3, Interesting

yeah. wow....thinking about this has made me nostalgic and slightly depressed.

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Interesting navel gazing by damn_registrars · 2012-10-03 04:46 · Score: 3, Interesting

At least he recognizes that the site was in decline when it was sold. Some might criticize him for not doubling down and putting himself back in to it, but he made his choice.

Welcome to the new slashdot - facebook news for conservatives.

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Re:Interesting navel gazing by CanHasDIY · 2012-10-03 04:51 · Score: 4, Interesting

At least he recognizes that the site was in decline when it was sold. Some might criticize him for not doubling down and putting himself back in to it, but he made his choice. Welcome to the new slashdot - facebook news for conservatives.
Yea, I've been seeing that strawman pop up here pretty much daily for the last decade: "Oh, there's a bunch of posters with whom I disagree, Slashdot is falling apart, becoming a haven for the [insert group you don't like]!

The behavior would be astonishing, if I weren't as well versed in human nature.

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Re:Interesting navel gazing by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-03 05:52 · Score: 3, Insightful

The behavior would be astonishing, if I weren't as well versed in human nature.
Indeed. I first noticed this syndrome with MUDs back in the day. Imms would come or go; changes to gameplay would be made, and players would inevitably pine for the golden days that never really were.
Imagine my shock when I found out this applied to every facet of life.
Re:Interesting navel gazing by Microlith · 2012-10-03 05:52 · Score: 4, Interesting

Go ahead, don't just make claims like that. Back them up with actual links. I want you to show me a consistent, frequent pattern of what you have just stated.

Don't even try to tell me this site isn't dedicated to facebook news for conservatives.
No, you have to show that this is the case. You have yet to do so.
Re:Interesting navel gazing by fustakrakich · 2012-10-03 05:53 · Score: 1

Man, you are such a goof. There is no 'liberal/conservative' in the advertising business.

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Re:Interesting navel gazing by helix2301 · 2012-10-03 05:55 · Score: 1

I agree the site has been declining reddit and mashable have been really up to date faster. I used to say I don't be leave it until it's on slashdot. Not anymore half the time slashdot misses the stories for stupid blog post. The site has hanging while taco was hear now not that much anymore.

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Re:Interesting navel gazing by Jawnn · 2012-10-03 06:05 · Score: 2

Yea, I've been seeing that strawman pop up here pretty much daily for the last decade: "Oh, there's a bunch of posters with whom I disagree, Slashdot is falling apart, becoming a haven for the [insert group you don't like]!
If you think that's all it is, you have not been paying attention. Informed, well-reasoned disagreements are part of what made /. what it is, or was perhaps. Sadly, those have been largely supplanted by ill-informed and logically flawed disagreements. So yeah, even though it's to be expected as more and more of the retards find their way here, it is still lamentable. Wading through the dross, to get to something interesting/insightful/informative, grows more wearisome with each passing week, it seems.
Re:Interesting navel gazing by CanHasDIY · 2012-10-03 06:18 · Score: 2

Go ahead, don't just make claims like that. Back them up with actual links. I want you to show me a consistent, frequent pattern of what you have just stated.

Don't even try to tell me this site isn't dedicated to facebook news for conservatives.
No, you have to show that this is the case. You have yet to do so.
For example, by typing "facebook" into /.'s built in search bar; doing so, you will find precisely 2 facebook stories from this week; 2 / 3 != 1 per day.

For last week, 5, except 3 of the 5 aren't actually about facebook directly - 2 / 7 != 1 per day, either.

Sadly, disproving the aforementioned theory probably took far less time than damn_registrars spent positing it.

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Re:Interesting navel gazing by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-03 06:19 · Score: 0

How did this get modded insightful??? Let me translate for you:
"Waaaaah us tolerant liberals can't shut out all constructive conversation by conservatives by modding them down anymore. Now we have to actually have an inteligent argument to make our case. Waaaaah!!!!!"
Seriously dude, there are plenty of liberal web sites out there that will welcome you with open arms.
Re:Interesting navel gazing by CanHasDIY · 2012-10-03 06:21 · Score: 3, Insightful

Yea, I've been seeing that strawman pop up here pretty much daily for the last decade: "Oh, there's a bunch of posters with whom I disagree, Slashdot is falling apart, becoming a haven for the [insert group you don't like]!
If you think that's all it is, you have not been paying attention. Informed, well-reasoned disagreements are part of what made /. what it is, or was perhaps. Sadly, those have been largely supplanted by ill-informed and logically flawed disagreements. So yeah, even though it's to be expected as more and more of the retards find their way here, it is still lamentable. Wading through the dross, to get to something interesting/insightful/informative, grows more wearisome with each passing week, it seems.
Again, I've heard this argument many, many times over the past decade of following Slashdot, and not a soul, yourself included, has been able to provide any evidence whatsoever of any deviation from the norm.

If you honestly believe "ill-informed and logically flawed disagreements" are a new concept to Slashdot (or even humanity in general), I propose that perhaps you are the one who hasn't been paying enough attention.

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Re:Interesting navel gazing by damn_registrars · 2012-10-03 07:00 · Score: 1

Man, you are such a goof. There is no 'liberal/conservative' in the advertising business.
Turn off your ad block, then count the anti-Obama ads that show up on the slashdot front page.

Then, go troll someone else. You weren't interesting the last time you trolled me.

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Re:Interesting navel gazing by fustakrakich · 2012-10-03 07:07 · Score: 1

So what if there's anti Obama ads in there? It's business, not ideology that keeps this site afloat. Get over it, you dweeb.

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Re:Interesting navel gazing by DerekLyons · 2012-10-03 07:23 · Score: 1

If you think that's all it is, you have not been paying attention. Informed, well-reasoned disagreements are part of what made /. what it is, or was perhaps. Sadly, those have been largely supplanted by ill-informed and logically flawed disagreements.
Nah. The same crap has been going on about as long as I've been perusing Slashdot (well over a decade). And for about the same amount of time people have been bitching about it and claiming it heralds the imminent demise of the site.
The reality is this: Slashdot has always been a haven for mediocre debate that, because of the moderation system, tends heavily towards group think and emphasizing what's popularly known over the facts.
Re:Interesting navel gazing by CanHasDIY · 2012-10-03 07:30 · Score: 2

For example, by typing "facebook" into /.'s built in search bar
That was your first mistake, you assumed that for some reason the search bar on slashdot would work. That thing hasn't worked right since ... well possibly ever. It misses far more than it gets right.
I'm not the one making outrageous claims and failing to back said claims with evidence. Don't like the source I cite? Provide your own or STFU (or get seen as the nonsensical troll you're currently coming off as).

Sadly, disproving the aforementioned theory probably took far less time than damn_registrars spent positing it.
Although it appears you don't understand the concept of a theory, either. Please hand in your geek card on your way out the door.
It appears you don't know the difference between literary and scientific definition.

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Re:Interesting navel gazing by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-03 07:51 · Score: 1

Turn off your ad block, then count the anti-Obama ads that show up on the slashdot front page.

All I ever see are ads for IBM, barracuda, and Intel. Can't say I've ever seen any political ads on /. (maybe back during the early primaries), and I don't use adblock. Methinks you're the victim of targeted advertising, Mr. Swing-State.
Re:Interesting navel gazing by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-03 08:11 · Score: 1

I get the same thing. Mostly hardware ads. I think he's a 'victim' of targeted advertising. IOW, flies are drawn to shit. Obviously these advertisers know an easy to manipulate a moron when they see one.
Re:Interesting navel gazing by strikethree · 2012-10-03 09:33 · Score: 4, Insightful

We just had a chance to ask Steve Wozniak, the actual person, any questions we wanted. And he responded. Here. We have articles about the Mars rovers and actual scientists who are working on them respond. We have some highly intelligent debate that illuminate issues deeply.
Yes, there is a lot of crap and the gems seem fewer and fewer... but you are absolutely correct. He/she/it needs to provide proof for their claims.

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Re:Interesting navel gazing by damn_registrars · 2012-10-03 11:43 · Score: 1

Methinks you're the victim of targeted advertising, Mr. Swing-State.
The only states less likely to swing than the one I live in are Texas and Illinois - and not by much. So no, I am not in a swing state.

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Re:Interesting navel gazing by damn_registrars · 2012-10-03 11:50 · Score: 1

For example, by typing "facebook" into /.'s built in search bar
That was your first mistake, you assumed that for some reason the search bar on slashdot would work. That thing hasn't worked right since ... well possibly ever. It misses far more than it gets right.
I'm not the one making outrageous claims and failing to back said claims with evidence.
Just because you disagree with something does not automatically make it "outrageous".

Don't like the source I cite? Provide your own
Here's a source for you. Just keep scrolling back through the old front page stories and count 'em up. You have access to the same data I am citing, you are just choosing not to look at it.

or STFU
Wow, how very kind you are.

(or get seen as the nonsensical troll you're currently coming off as).
You are the one who is throwing labels on statements you disagree with. If you choose not to read the front page, I cannot change your choice for you.

Sadly, disproving the aforementioned theory probably took far less time than damn_registrars spent positing it.
Although it appears you don't understand the concept of a theory, either. Please hand in your geek card on your way out the door.
It appears you don't know the difference between literary and scientific definition.
Do you even know what site you are looking at, or are you just typing whatever comes to mind to see what sticks? Here's a hint - the pitch line for this site starts with "news for nerds", not "cmdrtaco's pop fiction review site". Science is discussed here often. Literature, not nearly as much.You might want to consider reading up on some middle-school level science before you go sticking your neck out and trying to correct people.

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Re:Interesting navel gazing by fustakrakich · 2012-10-03 12:45 · Score: 1

Regardless... You're still a fool to think that 'ideology' in advertising is anything more than a tactic to separate you from your money. It just convinces me that you are the one trolling/flaming, trying to draw a crowd, with your 'conservative' nonsense. It deserves nothing but ridicule.

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Re:Interesting navel gazing by tehcyder · 2012-10-03 22:28 · Score: 1

Believing that making money is the most important thing in the world, and Trumps [*] any other moral consideration IS an ideology, it's just that as a conservative/right wing loon you can't see it.

[*] pun intended

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Re:Interesting navel gazing by tehcyder · 2012-10-03 22:29 · Score: 1

Now we have to actually have an inteligent argument to make our case.
Priceless.

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Re:Interesting navel gazing by fustakrakich · 2012-10-04 00:51 · Score: 1

HAHAHAHA.. me.. 'conservative'!.... OH murrrrrderrr!... That's a good one... The idea of 'morality' in business... That's even better... You're killing me here... FOX has all of you people completely wrapped around their little finger real good. Speaking of which, pull the other one. Your mental handicaps are quite the spectacle. A great start to a new day.... Thanks, you guys! Keep it coming.
Get yourself an education, and watch more Animal Planet. You might actually learn something.

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Re:Interesting navel gazing by Xest · 2012-10-04 01:49 · Score: 1

Well if you want evidence, then to me one example is how infrequently some of Slashdot's finest members post now. Go look at Carmack's account, or Woz's (though Woz's may be skewed by his recent special Q&A now) and compare to historic trends for them.
Honestly, you only have to look at the accounts of some of most historically interesting and insightful people to see they've long left. Pretending the evidence isn't there, doesn't mean it isn't.
Sure Slashdot has always had 'tard arguments, but the problem is that they used to be intermingled with posts from some of the industry's brightest. Nowadays those posts are massively more infrequent and most threads are 'tard arguments. Moderating has become far more political than ever before (and IMHO a massively marked decline in just the last 2 - 3 years alone).
The average level of intellect in Slashdot discussions has unquestionably declined from where it was between it's early days and maybe to about 2004 - 2005. The decline has certainly seemed to slow since then up until about 2 - 3 years ago, now the number of high UID accounts appearing, posting shill bollocks the second a story appears and seeing it magically modded up to +5 instantaneously has ballooned to the point of silliness.
Fuck, even APK has become a more regular occurence, if that in itself doesn't demonstrate a marked decrease in the average level of intellect on Slashdot I don't know what does, he alone must single handedly guarantee at least a drop of around 50 in terms of average IQ here.
Re:Interesting navel gazing by Xest · 2012-10-04 01:57 · Score: 1

The Woz QA was largely a one off though wasn't it? When was the last time we got to ask questions of anyone of his calibre?
I agree regarding science articles, they're one of the few areas where Slashdot still does well, but computing articles? politics? They're just full of bollocks now.
I suppose it's possibly because both computing and politics are rife with fanboys, whereas science is less polluted by these sorts of mindless drones, but certainly the level of computing discussion has grossly declined. It's rare I find anything in a computing topic that has any real learning value now, and I'm pretty certain that's not because I've magically mopped up every bit of knowledge about every aspect of computing.
"He/she/it needs to provide proof for their claims."
But why would they? It's a silly thing to ask for, it may frustrate people but I doubt anyone has the care to write some code or something or do an analysis of a worthwhile sample of Slashdot stories to provide a comparison. We're not trying to prove the Higgs boson discovery valid or anything here are we? Asking someone to prove something so absurdly difficult and time consuming to prove is silly. He's just posting his opinion and to be fair, it's one shared by a lot of long term visitors to this site so it's not as if he is alone in voicing that opinion.
Re:Interesting navel gazing by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-04 02:30 · Score: 0

"slashdot - facebook news for conservatives"
This is possibly the stupidest thing I have ever read on Slashdot.
Ok, minus some of those GNAA trolls.
Re:Interesting navel gazing by strikethree · 2012-10-04 02:37 · Score: 1

Granted, the chance to ask famous (not because they are famous but because they are interesting) people interesting questions is rather rare but certainly not a one off. John Carmack is another interesting person who used to post here. I still remember his response to an OpenGL vs DirectX debate. How can you argue with a man whose fortunes were made working directly with such topics? Of course, all answers should be viewed with skepticism.
I do agree with you about the computing and political topics. Even worse is the environment topics! Wow. Some normally reasonable guys go off the deep end and say crap like, "all the scientists agree, are you going to argue with them?". Where in the hell does a justification like THAT come from? Intelligent people have _never_ accepted that as an answer. Why now? (not saying that anything about the climate is true or false, just pointing out that THAT particular argument is about as worthless as it gets).
Some of that crap is purely about money. Someone is paying them to say something. Freedom of speech. Anyone can say whatever they like for whatever reason they like, right? Personally, I do not care about the shills and the crap they spew. Normal people are easily swayed by their crap arguments, but "we" are aware of the incredibly weak attempts at swaying opinions and the smarter attempts usually get smacked down properly so that even the slower folks amongst us can see the incorrectness of the shills arguments. I see all of that as a good thing. All of us need to hone our skills concerning bullshit detection and rational thinking. The pollution of the shills gives us a chance to do so. We only lose when intelligent people decide not to participate. They do not have to be famous.
Concerning proof, this is just a friendly discussion, not a scientific matter about our perceptions. I took your "proof" about computing and politics and addressed it. I did not argue it because anyone with a brain can see what you are talking about.
I do suspect that a part (how much, I have no idea) of the problem is the, "things were better back then", sort of problem. Music and movies were better yesterday. The music had more soul and the actors were more believable... and the posters on Slashdot were more engaging, witty, and better at trolling. I am unsure how you could possibly write a script to prove either of our assertions. What we see as an insightful comment today might be puerile trash tomorrow when we learn more or become more mature. I would be willing to write that script if someone could come up with an algorithm to impartially judge (?) quality. :)

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Re:Interesting navel gazing by Xest · 2012-10-04 02:50 · Score: 1

Presumably you'd have to rely on things like number of citations for comments if you were going to try something like that fully automated.
But I honestly think the only way to really do it would be to manually go through and calculate the ratio of demonstrably correct posts modded to +5, to subjective posts modded to +5, to demonstrably wrong posts modded to +5 or something like that.
Even then it's still not going to be easy and will still not exactly be entirely scientific. You'd also need a decent sample size, which is where my comment about it being prohibitively time consuming came in.
Re:Interesting navel gazing by strikethree · 2012-10-04 03:19 · Score: 1

You kind of missed the point of my offer. The most you could use a script for is to pull all +4 comments and higher... but a human still needs to evaluate them... and humans seem to change their evaluations based on the time of month and how much coffee they had this morning.
Hm. Perhaps we could do a Slashdot style moderation system on all of those comments and have everyone moderate them: +1 insightful, -1 fallacious (fellatious shills) logic, +1 coherent, etc. Perhaps the gems could be sorted that way?
We would still need some information that we do not have such as timestamped traffic stats and such so that we can see overall throughput of high quality comments. That way we can see how things have absolutely changed and as a function of traffic.
Okay, this is looking more doable than I thought. Get me the traffic logs and I will write a script to go through all Slashdot articles and extract anything +4 or higher. I will then set up a web server with Slashcode (how tough is it to set up Slashcode?) on it with the comments. I will modify Slashcode to adjust the types of moderations of available. Does this sound reasonable to you?
Honestly, while it appears that there is more crap and fewer true nerds, I still see enough good stuff here to keep trying to keep the community running... at least until whatever corp "owns" Slashdot decides to _really_ screw it up. Ads are annoying, but I see less intrusive ads here than other places. I could disable the advertising with a checkbox but I do not. The money for all of the traffic and sysadmins needs to come from somewhere. Of course, I used to never see ads here because I run noscript but allowed Slashdot to run scripts. Now that they figured out that I do not run scripts from foreign sites, they can show me ads.

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Pretty generic by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-03 04:49 · Score: 0

It struck me that this same blog could have been posted by countless other entrepreneurs in various fields, just changing the name and a (very) few details.

As Miller Lite's ad agency would say: Less filling.

Re:Personally don't care what CmdrTaco thinks by FatAlb3rt · 2012-10-03 04:49 · Score: 1, Troll

Thanks for speaking for the collective. Apparently you think that ACs are highly regarded around here.

Re:lol slashdot by not+already+in+use · 2012-10-03 04:50 · Score: 0, Troll

If anything, the more level-headed users have left for reddit. The only people who stick around here are people who scream "SHILL!" the second anyone has an opinion about Microsoft that isn't paranoid in nature.

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I ran a board in college, too by ackthpt · 2012-10-03 04:55 · Score: 1

It was fun, some of the flame-wars, the me-toos, attacks of the sillies, etc. All about 20 years before /. came along. Funny how anonymity on a network produces such similar behavior in completely independent groups separated by time.

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Thanks for creating a legend by abhi2012 · 2012-10-03 04:58 · Score: 4, Interesting

Thanks for creating slashdot, a place where I feel the most comfortable to read nerd news. Its clean, simple and is definitely by a team who understands the concept of a technology blog. Its really sad to leave something one has created and nurtured for so many years but I suppose that's the fact of quite a few products in the market now.

Slashdot editors by MagicM · 2012-10-03 04:58 · Score: 1

For me the story of Slashdot utterly inseparable from my own life.

You can take the editor out of Slashdot, but you can't take the Slashdot-quality editing out of... him. The guy that. Whatever.

Screenshots? by RevWaldo · 2012-10-03 05:00 · Score: 2

So how about some screenshots of how the site looked back in the day?

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Re:Screenshots? by armanox · 2012-10-03 05:06 · Score: 3, Informative

Never forget OMG Ponies!

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Re:Screenshots? by MobileTatsu-NJG · 2012-10-03 05:23 · Score: 1

So how about some screenshots of how the site looked back in the day?
Seconded!! I'd love to reminisce about the good ol' days when the HTML on the site worked.

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Re:Screenshots? by Cid+Highwind · 2012-10-03 07:00 · Score: 2

Who needs screenshots when we can use the wayback machine to party like it's 1999

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Re:Screenshots? by lord_rob+the+only+on · 2012-10-03 08:29 · Score: 1

See here
Re:Screenshots? by antdude · 2012-10-03 10:51 · Score: 1

How about partially see and use it in action? http://wayback.archive.org/web/*/http://slashdot.org

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Re:Screenshots? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-03 13:18 · Score: 0

The D1 discussion system still works the same as ever: perfectly, and no chance to screw up on moderating something. You don't get to see abbreviated posts, and largely you do not miss them.
Re:Screenshots? by tehcyder · 2012-10-03 22:32 · Score: 1

So how about some screenshots of how the site looked back in the day? .
Cleaner, but without rounded corners on text boxes.

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Re:Screenshots? by Skinny+Rav · 2012-10-04 05:54 · Score: 1

Never forget OMG Ponies!
I wanted to click most of stories in that screenshot, from The Cure for Information Overload, through Here There Be Dragons, to Quasars Used for Encryption.
Compare it with three of five uppermost stories on the current frontpage: Google settles blah blah, Phillipines new legislation, Facebook Privacy Boosted. Ok. there is the MakerFaire and a test engine for 1000 mph car, but still...
Probably more sign of the times than the state of /. though.

first grammatical error? by loshwomp · 2012-10-03 05:01 · Score: 2

It kills me to point this out, but his first "sentence" isn't even a sentence:

For me the story of Slashdot utterly inseparable from my own life.

Re:first grammatical error? by spire3661 · 2012-10-03 05:10 · Score: 1

Protocol only facilitates communication, it is not required to enable conversation.

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Re:Personally don't care what CmdrTaco thinks by lister+king+of+smeg · 2012-10-03 05:06 · Score: 1

i thought it was only emos and hipsters that complained about "selling out" when it really means being somewhat profitable

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Summary of the last 15 years by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-03 05:09 · Score: 5, Funny

BSD is dying
this
'nuff said
correlation != causation
epic fail
IANAL, but
ftw!
1. something something, 2. ???, 3. profit
RTFA
wtf?
I see what you did there
cool story, bro
Star Trek
That word does not mean what you think it means
Battlestar Galactica
It's a trap
Natalie Portman
This is the year of Linux. --posted from my iPhone 4S
your wrong
loose
lowest common denominator
lol lol looooool
i wRiTe LiKe tHiS cuZ iM a T00L. epic!
prolly
dunno
I think Microsoft (and now here's an unnecessarily long sentence inside a parenthesis to make you forget about the main sentence) sucks.
blame Micro$oft
Apple fanbois
Microsoft fanbois
in 3, 2, 1...
sarcasm tag
Nothing of value was lost
Bwahahaha
troll
+1
mod parent up
Slashdot members have little to no social skills
your mom's basement
Free as in beer. (Free as in prune juice for typical slashdot users)
Duke Nukem Forever
Bill Gates borg
Developers! Developers! Developers!
iPad/iPod killer. Lame.
Al Gore invented the internets
640k is all you'll ever need
Tomato and DD-WRT because I'm el33t haxor
you must be new here
All you base are belong to us
FUD
you typical American elitist
You insensitive clod
goatse
Imagine a beowulf cluster
good luck with that
I, for one, welcome our new overlords
netcraft confirms it
you + point = over your head. whooosh
tl;dr
My smug superiority usually prevents me from responding to an AC, but here goes
I am a know-it-all in my high horse
first post
citation?
fixed that for you
that's what she said
Orwellian 1984
RMS
thank you, captain obvious
Sports? Girls? Sex? This is slashdot hahaha (Score:5, Insightful)
Get off my lawn
what does this have to do with news for nerds?
Slashvertisement
dupe
slashdot has gone downhill recently im outta here

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Re:Summary of the last 15 years by inode_buddha · 2012-10-03 05:52 · Score: 1

this
+1
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Re:Summary of the last 15 years by GlennC · 2012-10-03 05:58 · Score: 2

Hot Grits!
What brand of crack are you smoking?
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In Soviet Russia, memes list YOU!

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Re:Summary of the last 15 years by jdray · 2012-10-03 06:02 · Score: 1

I think you forgot "frist psot".

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Re:Summary of the last 15 years by hazah · 2012-10-03 06:08 · Score: 1

In soviet russia... In korea, only old people...
Re:Summary of the last 15 years by Daniel+Dvorkin · 2012-10-03 06:11 · Score: 3, Insightful

"I'll probably get modded down for this, but ..." (comment goes to +5 immediately)

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Re:Summary of the last 15 years by AragornSonOfArathorn · 2012-10-03 07:05 · Score: 2

I see what you did there. For great justice!

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Re:Summary of the last 15 years by stevencbrown · 2012-10-03 08:03 · Score: 2

If you can arrange this into a "We didn't start the fire" type song, then I believe you'll have written the best ever slashdot post.
Re:Summary of the last 15 years by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-03 08:05 · Score: 0

Meh, What could possible go wrong, sudden outbreak of common sense ...
Re:Summary of the last 15 years by bigrat · 2012-10-03 09:12 · Score: 1

Noob. You forgot the Open Source Caveman. Lame.
Re:Summary of the last 15 years by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-03 12:04 · Score: 0

car analogy
Re:Summary of the last 15 years by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-03 15:02 · Score: 0

Seriously, I am the "BSD is dying troll" , had a lot of giggles with it. Sadly, have not as much free time to persue it any more. I loved getting Jordan Hubard pissed off. Well Jordan, I'm posting from an iPad but too bad BSD has nothing to do with it. Better luck next time. No hard feelings. K?
Re:Summary of the last 15 years by wirelessduck · 2012-10-04 00:32 · Score: 1

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

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Re:Summary of the last 15 years by Dast · 2012-10-04 18:13 · Score: 1

One word:
MEEP

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When's the dupe? by Chiller · 2012-10-03 05:12 · Score: 5, Funny

If history is any indication, we'll see a dupe of this tomorrow. Probably posted by CmdrTaco himself!

Re:When's the dupe? by TrailerTrash · 2012-10-03 05:53 · Score: 1

With a link to goatse in the body text.

Thanks for All The Fish by Phoenix666 · 2012-10-03 05:18 · Score: 4, Interesting

CmdrTaco, a /. account was the first one I created on the Web proper when i returned from China. I lost that 4 digit userID then due to economic & geographic dislocations, to my ongoing regret now. But in the ensuing years I came to feel like you were a brother I had never met. When you left Slashdot, it felt like a death in the family.

I don't say that to be maudlin, but to mean your time at Slashdot was not just a chapter in your life and its, but in the lives of many. May we all do so well in life.

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Re:Thanks for All The Fish by Razgorov+Prikazka · 2012-10-03 06:10 · Score: 1

>> I lost that 4 digit userID [...]

You were Phoenix6666 back then? ,-)

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Re:Thanks for All The Fish by User8201 · 2012-10-03 16:43 · Score: 1

I wish I had a low user ID.
Re:Thanks for All The Fish by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-03 17:04 · Score: 0

Thanks for the many tasty fish Taco. The system you set up seems robust and fair. It's good that you have moved on to bigger and better things. They will be excellent, and a family surely fits that definition. If you made Slashdot in College, I'll bet wherever your efforts are spent they will be even better now that you "know what your doing"...
Re:Thanks for All The Fish by coastwalker · 2012-10-03 23:49 · Score: 1

Same goes for me Taco. Also lost my low id moving jobs between the UK and Sweden and back again. Slashdot is still a great concept and still has some of the best threaded discussions on the web. Still has a community feel with the memes and OS wars revisited occasionally. So thanks to you and the team.
Interestingly I see fewer and fewer trolls these days, all the really kooky and unpleasant posters are doing it for real. They really do think that for example, Hitler was doing the right thing in exterminating the Jews and that anyone with your views is due for extermination too. I'm not sure when the world went from a state of general tolerance to one of polarized hatred but I'm afraid I have to blame American politics.
Slashdot is unique because its editorial policy is defined by a vast range of users who mostly keep things real. It is streets ahead of the moderated BBC website commenting system for example. I rarely swear on Slashdot but want to every time I use the BBC site.
So here's to another 15 years of Slashdot!
1) Immanentize the eschaton
2) ???
3) Profit!

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Ah by JustOK · 2012-10-03 05:25 · Score: 2

I'll never forgot...

Ah, typos. Way to really summarize the ./ experience.

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Re:Ah by boshvark · 2012-10-04 08:33 · Score: 1

Ah, typos. Way to really summarize the *** ./ *** experience.
Indeed!

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Re:Ah by JustOK · 2012-10-04 14:26 · Score: 1

It's little endian, you insensitive clod.

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I for one.... by Laserfuzz · 2012-10-03 05:42 · Score: 1

Thank our CmdrTaco overlord. Slashdot introduced me to a unbelievable amount of time wast....information. I am not a programmer, coder whatever you call yourself but have benefited from reading articles and even rants. So thanks!

WTF. by MRe_nl · 2012-10-03 05:42 · Score: 3, Interesting

"Before it was the famous nerd hub, Slashdot was simply my homepage. When I left, I was denied the right to continue to post on the page that I still called home".

Why?

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Re:WTF. by dr_dank · 2012-10-03 10:33 · Score: 1

Because you touch yourself at night.

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Re:WTF. by MRe_nl · 2012-10-03 12:48 · Score: 1

,and the middle of the day.

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Re:lol slashdot by tqk · 2012-10-03 05:45 · Score: 3, Interesting

what a dump.
reddit has destroyed you. please unplug your last server.

This is the phenomenon I wonder about. So many ACs moan about how bad /. is for whatever reason, yet they're still here. Why? Haters just gotta hate? Do you enjoy figuratively stirring entrails? You've nothing better to do than subject yourself to what you clearly see no need for?

That's just sad. That's a self-abusive personality. No, your character flaws have no effect on me, btw.

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Long time User (see UID of three digits) Agrees by dbarron · 2012-10-03 05:48 · Score: 5, Insightful

I'm sad to see the changes...and I will agree that SlashDot is not what it was. I've been considering frequenting it less. I seldom post, but I do read a lot of articles (and quite often commentary).
Course, I'm not what I was 15 years ago either :)

Re:Long time User (see UID of three digits) Agrees by Red+Herring · 2012-10-03 06:15 · Score: 1

Personally, I am (ahem) quite a bit more than I was 15 years ago.
[Self: Put down the donut and walk away...]

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Re:Long time User (see UID of three digits) Agrees by sconeu · 2012-10-03 06:19 · Score: 2

Yeah, sure. That's what *EVERYONE* says... "I only read Slashdot for the articles..."

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Re:Long time User (see UID of three digits) Agrees by aussersterne · 2012-10-03 07:44 · Score: 2

Agreed. My first Slashdot account was in the high four digits, not as old school as yourself, but I've been reading for a while. My current Slashdot account is newer still.
But back in the day, Slashdot was THE place online for a generation of people (young and old, but the overlap of a particular community and a particular time period) that saw computing, technology, and the Internet come of age and that were deeply interested in and involved with these things at all levels.
I wonder if maybe some of the Slashdot decline is due to the diversification and growth of its users. For a moment in history (the '90s, basically, tapering off in the early '00s) humankind underwent a massive technological transformation. Because mainstream society was behind the curve despite its best efforts to grok what was going on, the technology community needed its own meeting place for discussion, news, announcements, and so on.
But once the transformation was complete and we had become "a network society," I wonder if the community, too, diversified in its interests. When I started reading Slashdot I was part salesman and part network admin, talking smaller organizations that didn't know what a network was (much less what it was for) into letting me build them one. Because these things were once at a significant premium, there was a market for people like me that weren't working at the enterprise level or in R&D who had connections and could get their hands on tons and tons of cast-off tech junk and cobble it together into working systems at affordable costs, often so idiosyncratic as a result that we had to be the ones that administered them.
In the '90s my two-car garage was packed to the gills with network equipment, cabling, racks and racks of spare parts, and stacks of computing systems in mid-recycle (there was a time when I specialized in taking off-lease desktops in quantity and helping to recycle them as parallel clusters for funds-starved research projects at local state universities). I was a salesman, an architect, a technician, a plumber/electrician, a software engineer, and a scientific computing specialist all rolled into one.
Today, I own a Mac, and iPhone, and an iPad. The only "parts" I have in my entire house amount to a currently unused external hard drive and a box of cables, none of which are particularly specialist in nature (some USB, some firewire, some HDMI, a few RCA audio, etc.) The only occasion I have to solder things is when a household item is broken and I feel like getting out the screwdriver, VOM, and soldering iron. If I do any "development" at all, it's just some basic HTML, PHP, and JS on my homepage. It must be 10 years since I touched C, 15 since I touched ASM (last batch was Motorola 6809 in an embedded system, I think).
From hardcore techie I've transitioned into working as an editor and an lecturer in mass media. I garden and keep goldfish. I guess you could say that I grew up, but the market also has a hand in this—computing and technology became commodities; coding and deployment became nigh-on unskilled labor. Few research projects need more computing power than they have in the principal investigator's iPhone, and more often than not there is now off-the-shelf software for Windows or Mac to do almost anything they want to do, now firmly established in channels.
Former tech industry friends have followed the same paths. People from the local computer club that used to load up their entire van with junk every Saturday to get together and solder, breadboard, and code for 12 hours now spend Saturdays on football, or on the yardwork, and are perfectly happy with a DVR, an XBox, and a couple of laptops and smartphones in the house.
Slashdot is in decline in a way, but it's because the sorts of territory that Slashdot used to cover are in decline. There's just not much to talk about. Enthusiasm for hacking the latest console or iPhone is not nearly as intense, widespread, or filled with unlimited possibilities as was hacking on Linux and evo

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Re:Long time User (see UID of three digits) Agrees by dbarron · 2012-10-03 09:54 · Score: 1

Yes, I suppose you're right (excellently thought out post btw). I seldom do anything I'd call hacking these days either. I do more 'system integration' and still nerdy stuff on occasion, but far far less frequently than back in the day, when we lived/breathed/and didn't eat it.
I was just learning PERL when Rob first put up the site and I was impressed at what he'd done with it as CGI. Nowdays, I write in PERL on occassion for quick and dirty scriplets, but not often. And you're right, Slashdot was a great place for tech exchange (Ask Slashdot) when there weren't many places (beside old USENET).
Mostly things these days just work (as you point out). However, I'm still glad to have the insight into how to diagnose varying issues, from all that experience of years gone, when you had to do that sort of thing with everything you did.
Re:Long time User (see UID of three digits) Agrees by Omegaman · 2012-10-03 10:53 · Score: 1

Slashdot has mirrored the Internet in many ways. It seemed better in the early days as the signal to noise ratio felt much lower. The past is a foreign country.
Re:Long time User (see UID of three digits) Agrees by Pav · 2012-10-03 11:47 · Score: 1

The creatives are around and strong, just not here so much. They always retreat to the fringes because creativity is like a nuclear reaction - if it gets diluted past a certain critical mass it mostly stops happening. The places I've discovered it online lately have been Diaspora - panned here yesterday because it isn't popular (precisely why it's successful in certain respects), and IRC where I've been interacting with people working on projects I make some small contributions to. The 3D printing community also has a heartbeat and springs out of bed in the morning.
When the shills and the me-too's get tired of mostly talking to themselves Slashdot might get a second life... I would never have thought I'd be back on IRC again either.
Re:Long time User (see UID of three digits) Agrees by tehcyder · 2012-10-03 22:40 · Score: 1

For a moment in history (the '90s, basically, tapering off in the early '00s) humankind underwent a massive technological transformation.
Sadly, the technological transformation has not resulted in any great political, social or economic transformation for the better. It was a nice idea, but all it's really done is opened up a new way for large corporations to advertise and/or make money.

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Slashdot's doing well, the internet at large isn't by concealment · 2012-10-03 06:14 · Score: 4, Interesting

This was interesting reading. Bittersweet, because there's always doubt over a sale. No matter what anyone says, if you created it, it's yours and you have a moral right to it. In the hands of commerce however, others control it, and use facts/figures to justify actions based on knowledge from the past.

I think it makes sense instead for Slashdot to think of the future. There is always going to be room for a site that covers geek topics, and no one does it like Slashdot. It's a potent mix of technology, culture and politics that has always been at the forefront of changes in the technology field. If anything, it's time for Slashdot's "owners" (the community is the real owner) to re-invest in updating the site, and to stay the course. Don't try to make it into Facebook, because Slashdot and its appeal are fundamentally different.

What's dying is the internet as it has become in successive iterations: post-1996, post-2002, and whatever came after that. AOL wrecked the internet and died, Myspace died, Facebook is failing because the power users are leaving, since the site has become basically a work-day time-waster for cube slaves. The branching of the internet audience into niches is the real story here, not the attempt of a few people (even Wikipedia) to control what everyone is thinking.

If I had one suggestion, it would be to cover more of the underground. People are living outside the grid, even if from within the grid, in more ways and more interesting ways than ever before.

Proposal by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-03 06:22 · Score: 0

>> And Iâ(TM)ll never forgot the palm sweating nervousness waiting for a reply when I proposed to my girlfriend on the front page of Slashdot.

I think we all did a little "palm sweating" that day, if ya know what I mean.

Just like Justin Frankel at Winamp by HockeyPuck · 2012-10-03 06:33 · Score: 1

So slashdot was sold to Andover.net on n June 29, 1999 for $1.5 million in cash and $7 million in Andover stock at the IPO price (see ultra depressing GeekNet stock chart)

Winamp was sold to AOL on June 1999, for $80m.

With CmdrTaco's bitterness, I can't help but see this quote apply from Justin Frankel (founder of Winamp and later gnutella):

"For me, coding is a form of self-expression. The company controls the most effective means of self-expression I have. This is unacceptable to me as an individual, therefore I must leave." - from a blog posting announcing his resignation from AOL

Cmdr, you should sit down with Justin and compare notes...

slashdot prospered while digg did not by peter303 · 2012-10-03 06:45 · Score: 1

I see maybe two reasons: (1) Slashdot was hybrid moderated and rated. Digg was all rated. That way digg seemed to be just another variation of google news. I always found more interesting stories on slashdot.

(2) Digg sold its soul to the venture capitalist looking for "social media" plays. They lost their techie heart and just became another advertising site.

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Re:about facebook directly by TaoPhoenix · 2012-10-03 08:18 · Score: 1, Troll

Naw, I think it's about the indirect "Facebook Placement" that's starting to creep in that is bugging people. Let's try a few titles:

Why Are We So Rude Online? - and of all of "Online", we get: "For example, a study found that browsing Facebook tends to lower people's self control."

What Happened To Diaspora, the Facebook Killer? It's Complicated

How Noah Kagan Got Fired From Facebook and Lost $100 Million

WTFM: Write the Freaking Manual - and of all "tech giants" we get "Google (Go), Twitter (Bootstrap), Facebook (iOS 6 Facebook Integration), Microsoft (Windows Store apps), and Apple (Create Apps for IOS 6)".

The Day Leo Traynor Confronted His Troll - "Dublin-based writer Leo Traynor has written a piece about confronting the troll who ...hacked his Facebook...

Teachers Write an Open Textbook In a Weekend Hackathon - The progress can be followed by visiting the repository at GitHub or the project Facebook page."

Illinois Prof Calls for a Federal Law To Safeguard Digital Afterlives - and of all digital afterlives we get: "Mazzone argues that Facebook and other online services".

Privacy Watchdogs Want Facebook, Datalogix Deal Probed

California Employers Can't Ask For Your Facebook Password - excuse me, "J053 sends word that California has passed legislation making it illegal for both colleges and employers to request social media account access from students, employees, and prospective hires. " But of all Social Media, the Title went for "Facebook".

Facebook Denies Leak of Users' Private Messages

Man Arrested In Greece For "Blasphemous" Facebook Page

New York Times Takes Aim At Data Center - Oh look, it's tagged "Facebook"

How Internet Data Centers Waste Power - This is the price being paid to ensure everyone has instant access to every email they've ever received, or for their instant Facebook status update. Data Center providers are finding that they can't rack servers fast enough to provide for users' needs: A few companies say they are using extensively re-engineered software and cooling systems to decrease wasted power. Among them are Facebook and Google, which also have redesigned their hardware. Still, according to recent disclosures, Google's data centers consume nearly 300 million watts and Facebook's about 60 million watts. (So of only two data centers, they went with Facebook and Google.)

Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name

Facebook Disables Face Recognition In EU

Salesforce CEO Benioff: Future Software Will Look Like Facebook

Can a Court Order You To Delete a Facebook Account?

Patent Troll Goes After Facebook, Apple, Microsoft, Yahoo, IBM, Others

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So will that do for two weeks worth? Facebook (and Google and Apple) are where they are because they're playing "Product Placement News". Get big enough so that bunches of news stories merit your "Brand Name" being inserted as a news item.

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Re:lol slashdot by nege · 2012-10-03 08:28 · Score: 1

I discovered reddit about 6 months ago. At first I thought it was pretty neat. Now I have a sneaking suspicion that there is really only one other guy on the site. A 14 year old, pimple faced youth who hates anyone that isnt liberal, atheist, and really really loves cats and bacon. At this point the only subs I have are star trek and firefly, and I look at it every once in a while when I'm really really bored.

Boycotts by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-03 08:31 · Score: 0

I'll never buy from [company caught in less than aboveboard dealings] again.

Re:about facebook directly by CanHasDIY · 2012-10-03 09:33 · Score: 2

Naw, I think it's about the indirect "Facebook Placement" that's starting to creep in that is bugging people. Let's try a few titles:

Well, IMO, those people are kinda dumb.

Facebook is a 'big fish' when it comes to many, many internet related issues, so of course they get mentioned. Complaining about facebook's presence in internet-related articles is akin to bitching about the press mentioning GM or Ford in automotive related stories, or Apple when talking about smartphones - they're the big dogs; of course they're going to be in focus. It in no way is any sort of indication of a "pro-[insert company here]" slant or preference, it's a matter of economics.

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The coolest thing about Slashdot by rez_rat · 2012-10-03 10:13 · Score: 2

Is that from the beginning, I always considered it to be a place to go to experience discussions that I just could not have with my "real" circle of friends and peers. It made me feel like I "belonged" somewhere. Thank you CmdrTaco. I agree with a fellow poster, an excellent read.

S-

Re:Personally don't care what CmdrTaco thinks by Pav · 2012-10-03 11:04 · Score: 2

It's the switch between dominance of creative contributors/producers thinning to mostly passive consumer masses - something always dies in that translation even though it IS more profitable. A large porportion of creatives generate a living atmosphere. It's like being at a party with a few musicians and guitars being passed around - alive, something that hangs on the air and has breath... a feeling of "something special is happening here". Then there are parties with successful carreer people and the $15,000 sound system... the artist frozen in plastic on the CD tray. Even a live gig isn't quite alive. Sure, the artist can bounce off the crowd, but I know the kind of company the artist will keep when they're off the clock.

The only places I've had this feeling recently online is Diaspora - ironically panned here yesterday for not being "popular" enough, and crusty old IRC where I've recently started interacting with projects I'm making small contributions to.

Re:Slashdot's doing well, the internet at large is by Pav · 2012-10-03 12:08 · Score: 1

Why the bitterness? :) Yes, your seaside community is now a concrete jungle but it just means you need to pull up stumps and move on - the skyscrapers aren't going away. I've spoken in other posts here about creatives retreating again to the fringes (which used to be the entire Internet) and setting up new communities or reviving old ones. Personally I've discovered Diaspora... it's fresh and alive with creative people - I'd forgotten what that looks like. I'm back on IRC after 10 years(!)... there are projects I'm contributing to there, and it's FUN to bounce off people rather than resist the constant drone of shills trying to convince me to outsource being a technology tinkerer.

Thanks by Numtek · 2012-10-03 12:31 · Score: 1

Thanks for everything.

Slashdot in Decline by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-03 12:53 · Score: 0

We are linking to personal blogs for stories?

*ducks*

Define "Nerd" by Tenebrousedge · 2012-10-03 13:07 · Score: 1

Hacker News has "News for Startups". Many /. articles show up there first. The community has, generally, far fewer commentators and much less humor. Expect to see a lot of stories about new javascript libraries, and blog posts from random idio^H^H^H^H"entrepreneurs". Tag it "RTFPressRease"

People tell me good subreddits exist. I'm not sure I believe it. Tag it "RTFImageCaption"

Linux Weekly News comes with a free neck adjustment to facilitate looking down on things with fewer freedoms. Tag it "RTFLKML"

Ars Technica, and Wired are both brought to you by their corporate overlords. Hard to complain about the reporting, it's sanitized but not awful. There's no community to speak of at either. It gets tagged for you.

Or you could DIY TFA with a custom RSS feed. But unfortunately I don't think what you're looking for exists outside slashdot, even in its supposed decline. You may get better answers, though, by defining what kind of nerd you are.

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Re:Define "Nerd" by tehcyder · 2012-10-03 21:57 · Score: 1

Hacker News [ycombinator.com] has "News for Startups". Many /. articles show up there first. The community has, generally, far fewer commentators and much less humor.
"Slashdot without the humour." Yeah, that'll work well.

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Re:Define "Nerd" by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-04 01:58 · Score: 0

Apparently, they think the internets are serious business.

Re:lol slashdot by humanrev · 2012-10-03 13:36 · Score: 1

Now I have a sneaking suspicion that there is really only one other guy on the site. A 14 year old, pimple faced youth who hates anyone that isnt liberal, atheist, and really really loves cats and bacon

If that's the case then I'm starting to get a little worried every time I visit /r/gonewild.

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Raising the bar to a Social Semantic Desktop by Paul+Fernhout · 2012-10-03 13:59 · Score: 1

Interesting post as is the one you replied to. I've learned so much from Slashdot over the past thirteen or fourteen years and really enjoyed the community. Personally, I feel something like a social semantic desktop, based around emerging standards for exchanging semantic information, may be in our near future though.

Here is something I posted to the Diaspora list on that about two years ago, included here in its entirety:
"Raising the bar to supporting a Social Semantic Desktop"
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/diaspora-dev/TNNpvfFqNG8
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Here are some general thoughts about how Diaspora might relate to the
Semantic Web and a Social Semantic Desktop, and how that might make it even
more awesome to encourage everyone to migrate to it.

Please consider this document under a CC-BY-SA 3.0 license (same as
Wikipedia or content on the joindiaspora.com site) -- except for quoted
material which is assumed to be under fair use in this context.

=== Overview with a semantic example

What I propose is that Diaspora emphasize either supporting or directly
integrating semantic technologies based mostly around exchanging collections
of ad-hoc semantic "triples" like RDF (the Resource Description Framework)
is built around. Such triples define essentially a database of ad-hoc
objects with field names and values (although triples can be used in other
ways, too).

(There might actually be more than three components in a "triple" in
practice, like a context, namespaces, a timestamp, a reified uuid, and an
author, and triples themselves might be embedded in transactions.)

Here is an example of using triples to define two different objects that are
related at the end:

uuid:746A0205-E758-4BB2-B1FE-5D48B688A1CE represents-user "Daniel Grippi"
uuid:746A0205-E758-4BB2-B1FE-5D48B688A1CE has-role DiasporaDeveloper
uuid:746A0205-E758-4BB2-B1FE-5D48B688A1CE has-role DiasporaFounder
uuid:746A0205-E758-4BB2-B1FE-5D48B688A1CE routed-by joindiaspora.com

uuid:DD776C2F-E795-453E-A343-B823AF989C01 type DesignDocument
uuid:DD776C2F-E795-453E-A343-B823AF989C01 title "Disapora Roadmap"
uuid:DD776C2F-E795-453E-A343-B823AF989C01 content "Disapora is..."
uuid:DD776C2F-E795-453E-A343-B823AF989C01 author "Maxwell Salzberg"
uuid:DD776C2F-E795-453E-A343-B823AF989C01 reviewed-by "Raphael Sofaer"
uuid:DD776C2F-E795-453E-A343-B823AF989C01 reviewed-by "Ilya Zhitomirskiy"
uuid:DD776C2F-E795-453E-A343-B823AF989C01 license CC-BY-SA
uuid:DD776C2F-E795-453E-A343-B823AF989C01 checksum 57AB28F91028
uuid:DD776C2F-E795-453E-A343-B823AF989C01 signature C39E5ADE93E4
uuid:DD776C2F-E795-453E-A343-B823AF989C01 encryption None
uuid:DD776C2F-E795-453E-A343-B823AF989C01 sent-to
uuid:746A0205-E758-4BB2-B1FE-5D48B688A1CE

And, in case it was not obvious, the above defines two objects (each with a
different uuid), one representing a user with a routing method and the other
representing a design document that has been sent to that first user.

In practice there would probably be higher levels of abstraction used
eventually rather than embedding people's names in there like that, or to
support timestamped encrypted versions of documents, or to represent the act
of transmitting as an object, and so on... This was just to illustrate the
basic idea of ad hoc objects.

One could imagine that Dispora would have some general support for moving
such triples around (maybe in transactions

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BSD is dying by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-03 14:20 · Score: 0

Congradulations, Rob, Good job! Now you can suck my dick,

signed the "BSD is dying" troll.

This sentence put a smile to my face by jampola · 2012-10-03 15:12 · Score: 1

"I’ll never forgot the nights spent tailing the access_log and celebrating a line from microsoft.com or mit.edu with friends like Jeff, Dave, Nate and Kurt."

I can only imagine some of the memories you have of running this site but I can see that one as being something special. That kinda speaks to me and I bet there are a bunch of nerdlingers like myself who would love to have memories like that!

Happy 15th /.!!! :)

Re:Slashdot's doing well, the internet at large is by jampola · 2012-10-03 16:18 · Score: 1

You just convinced me to pacman -S xchat after all these years :)

Slashdot Radio by panZ · 2012-10-03 16:26 · Score: 1

Before podcasts were even called podcasts, I loved listening to Rob and his friends chat about the stories in their geeky, witty and hilarious hosting style. I felt like part of the gang and re-listened to most episodes a few times on my old Diamond Rio 500 on the way too and from University. Thanks for making geeks hip, social and fun!

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Re:lol slashdot by tehcyder · 2012-10-03 22:12 · Score: 1

If anything, the more level-headed users have left for reddit

Reddit's like 4chan without the pr0n.

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Re:Personally don't care what CmdrTaco thinks by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-03 22:18 · Score: 0

i thought it was only emos and hipsters that complained about "selling out" when it really means being somewhat profitable

Your assumption that being profitable is inherently a good thing places you in the camp of the libertarians, Republicans, capitalists, anti-progressives, pessimists, Donald Trumps and other assorted evil-doers.

The original Lister would tell you to stick your profits where the sun don't shine.

Re:Personally don't care what CmdrTaco thinks by tehcyder · 2012-10-03 22:19 · Score: 1

It's like being at a party with a few musicians and guitars being passed around - alive, something that hangs on the air and has breath... a feeling of "something special is happening here"

Let me guess, you're an editor on BoingBoing?

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Why English only? by fgouget · 2012-10-04 00:01 · Score: 1

It's a bit sad that there's no equivalent to Slashdot in other languages, locales or on other topics.

I feel that Slashdot-like forums foster interesting discussion and thus perform a service that could be useful to discuss the news of one's country for instance. But currently it's something that non-English speaking people are locked out of.

Re:Why English only? by coolmadsi · 2012-10-04 03:04 · Score: 1

It's a bit sad that there's no equivalent to Slashdot in other languages, locales or on other topics.
Some slashdot members have mentioned that there is a Japanese slashdot (I don't speak Japanese so I've never been myself)

Re:lol slashdot by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-04 02:39 · Score: 0

Reddit is worthless and always has been.

Proposal link by mattack2 · 2012-10-04 12:45 · Score: 1

Anybody can google it as easily as I can, but here it is:

http://slashdot.org/story/02/02/14/143254/kathleen-fent-read-this-story

Also, one about it:
http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/10-years-after-famous-slashdot-marriage-proposal-couple-discusses-wisdom-popping-question-public-0

The "geekiest marriage proposals ever":
http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/71300

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