The reason why 3 do deals that cheap is they're having a *really* hard time convincing anyone that video is worth the extra cost.
They're hoping that getting everyone in for the first 3-6 months at a loss will get them used to the technology so they can pay later... not sure it's going to work, myself.
Normal contracts start at around £15 a month for most providers... Prepay is much cheaper (unlike the US, prepay doesn't expire in this country, so if you only make £10 of calls in a year that's all it costs).
Delivery boy had to go back to the shop to authorize the credit card as he couldn't do it. 20 minutes later, sign slip.
Pizza (one of the new ones with the cheese layer in the middle) tasted like cardboard, was now cold, and cost about 50% more than the pizza hut a mile away...
I worked for a company that had a server for one of these guys. It was setup by one of the employees (who had the contacts) and the management conveniently looked the other way and pretended it didn't exist.
It was great for a time to get Cinema releases before they were released (good drops mind you, not telecine), and we had every playstation game released I think.
After a year or so the company got big enough it decided it wasn't worth the risk... pity (although I reckon I could still get access to a server if I asked nicely).
For a time some stores put up signs saying that you could expect dead pixels.. that lasted about a month, because everyone just went to the stores that didn't have such signs instead.
I've never seen a dead pixel in a monitor, and I've been through a few (setup an office with 75 of the things)... maybe it's just in the UK that we don't put up with such things... they ship all the duds to the US:)
Outgoing is (relatively) cheap, although the cheapest from this country is good old POTS.. about 50% of the cost of the cheapest VOIP. Incoming is the rub though - it's a premium rate phone call for the caller... that stops me using VOIP even though I have a VOIP phone & asterisk server.
Not true.. it actually becomes unfeasable to find machines with random IPs.
If you have a/48 or a/64, which is likely, then the rest of the address is derived from your mac address... unless you can actually randomly guess that then 'random' hunting just isn't going to work.
I've used a few OSs in my time, and it's only Unix that seems to insist on that distinction. (OS/400 doesn't, for example.. go on, tell me that's not a server OS).
Humans don't distinguish case... no reason for computers to do.
"If you include the MySQL server with an application that is not licensed under the GPL or GPL-compatible license, you need a commercial license for the MySQL server."
ie. if you distribute a GPL app *on the same CD* as a non-gpl one you break the license.
"If you develop and distribute a commercial application and as part of utilizing your application, the end-user must download a copy of MySQL; for each derivative work, you (or, in some cases, your end-user) need a commercial license for the MySQL server and/or MySQL client libraries."
Even if you never use/distribute any GPL code, your end users can bind you to the GPL retroactively.
If a user downloads a piece of 'free' software (Apache license for example) which happens to be able to use MySql, then downloads MySql, they are *not* able to use this under the GPL - they must pay 300 euros for mysql - see the Mysql Licensing FAQ for more on this.
This aspect of the GPL is quite scary, TBH, because it means it's very hard to use GPL software with anything.
These schemes rely on a certain amount of turnover, so maybe you'll get 5 or 6 levels in the pyramid, but a lot of the lower levels will sign up, realise they've been conned and write off the money. This helps keeps the burn rate of eligible suck..err.. consumers low enough to sustain the pyramid.
The people at the top will be driving ferrari's, though. I was hired once to write some software to handle one of these schemes (even today a lot of them are paper based) and I got to see the figures for the top 3 layers (mostly the friends/relatives of the guy who set the scheme up). Lets just say I wouldn't mind getting that much every year, let alone every month!
In this country they banned pyramid schemes, so they renamed themselves to 'multi-level-marketing' schemes to avoid the law (there are some subleties in the way they work too). Same thing though.
Also, the 'distributed with the OS' line is just unenforcable.
What is 'distributed with the OS'. Windows versions have different incompatible versions of MSVCRT, so to make your app work you also have to distribute it. Is this not now 'distributed with the OS'? Is this a GPL violaton?
If a GPL Solaris app links to Kerberos, and you don't have the library and have to download and install from Sun. Is this not now 'distributed with the OS'. Did you just break the GPL?
Remember despite the fact that the GPL states that it only covers distribution this is manifestly untrue - it covers linking too.
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It depends on how you interpret the GPL.
The most extereme is the MySql interpretation, which says that even if you don't ship any MySql binaries but provide a hook, and one of your users downloads the GPL version and runs it, *you* are in violation and muct pay for $300 per user license. Even if your software is opensource but not GPL.
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The reason why 3 do deals that cheap is they're having a *really* hard time convincing anyone that video is worth the extra cost.
They're hoping that getting everyone in for the first 3-6 months at a loss will get them used to the technology so they can pay later... not sure it's going to work, myself.
Normal contracts start at around £15 a month for most providers... Prepay is much cheaper (unlike the US, prepay doesn't expire in this country, so if you only make £10 of calls in a year that's all it costs).
I tried dominos *once*. Never again.
Ordered 8pm.
Pizza arrived 8.45pm. Almost cold.
Delivery boy had to go back to the shop to authorize the credit card as he couldn't do it. 20 minutes later, sign slip.
Pizza (one of the new ones with the cheese layer in the middle) tasted like cardboard, was now cold, and cost about 50% more than the pizza hut a mile away...
I worked for a company that had a server for one of these guys. It was setup by one of the employees (who had the contacts) and the management conveniently looked the other way and pretended it didn't exist.
It was great for a time to get Cinema releases before they were released (good drops mind you, not telecine), and we had every playstation game released I think.
After a year or so the company got big enough it decided it wasn't worth the risk... pity (although I reckon I could still get access to a server if I asked nicely).
Hey, my phone has a GSM...
Just one step closer, and *foom!*
10 pixels? It'd be back to the shop at *well* below that value.
I might accept 1 or 2, and then only at the edges.
For a time some stores put up signs saying that you could expect dead pixels.. that lasted about a month, because everyone just went to the stores that didn't have such signs instead.
:)
I've never seen a dead pixel in a monitor, and I've been through a few (setup an office with 75 of the things)... maybe it's just in the UK that we don't put up with such things... they ship all the duds to the US
That is *not* a cluster. It's a load balancing server.
MS like to call it a cluster because it makes them sound 'good', but really it's crap.
Outgoing is (relatively) cheap, although the cheapest from this country is good old POTS.. about 50% of the cost of the cheapest VOIP. Incoming is the rub though - it's a premium rate phone call for the caller... that stops me using VOIP even though I have a VOIP phone & asterisk server.
Corporate liability - the CEO goes to jail.
I thought you had that in the US too? (Enron/Worldcom).
Not true.. it actually becomes unfeasable to find machines with random IPs.
/48 or a /64, which is likely, then the rest of the address is derived from your mac address... unless you can actually randomly guess that then 'random' hunting just isn't going to work.
If you have a
Heh. If it patched non-GPL code the worm victim could also be sued by the FSF!
Even better, if it managed to infect MS source then Windows would become GPL!!
There is in mailman too... is that suppposed to be spam software?
Sometimes mailing lists need to be anonymous.
I've used a few OSs in my time, and it's only Unix that seems to insist on that distinction. (OS/400 doesn't, for example.. go on, tell me that's not a server OS).
Humans don't distinguish case... no reason for computers to do.
Before I get modded down... here's the quote:
"If you include the MySQL server with an application that is not licensed under the GPL or GPL-compatible license, you need a commercial license for the MySQL server."
ie. if you distribute a GPL app *on the same CD* as a non-gpl one you break the license.
"If you develop and distribute a commercial application and as part of utilizing your application, the end-user must download a copy of MySQL; for each derivative work, you (or, in some cases, your end-user) need a commercial license for the MySQL server and/or MySQL client libraries."
Even if you never use/distribute any GPL code, your end users can bind you to the GPL retroactively.
The difference matters..
If a user downloads a piece of 'free' software (Apache license for example) which happens to be able to use MySql, then downloads MySql, they are *not* able to use this under the GPL - they must pay 300 euros for mysql - see the Mysql Licensing FAQ for more on this.
This aspect of the GPL is quite scary, TBH, because it means it's very hard to use GPL software with anything.
If you're filming a 60ft wave at 500mph you're probably not going to be around long enough to sell your story.
At that speed it'd be like being hit by a wall of concrete.
Me too...
:P
10 seconds later I realized I couldn't remember if he was still alive to start with...
glad to know he's OK though.
Wolf3d was a PC clone of '3D Monster Maze'... not really revolutionary, merely evolutionary.
There were probably games before that even.. though probably not on consumer hardware.
Because people were stupid and like addictive games..
If it's stupid to like a game that is addictive, what is it to like a game that isn't addictive at all, but still shell out real money to play it?
These schemes rely on a certain amount of turnover, so maybe you'll get 5 or 6 levels in the pyramid, but a lot of the lower levels will sign up, realise they've been conned and write off the money. This helps keeps the burn rate of eligible suck ..err.. consumers low enough to sustain the pyramid.
The people at the top will be driving ferrari's, though. I was hired once to write some software to handle one of these schemes (even today a lot of them are paper based) and I got to see the figures for the top 3 layers (mostly the friends/relatives of the guy who set the scheme up). Lets just say I wouldn't mind getting that much every year, let alone every month!
In this country they banned pyramid schemes, so they renamed themselves to 'multi-level-marketing' schemes to avoid the law (there are some subleties in the way they work too). Same thing though.
..or along the coast.
:)
Why is it always New York that gets hit by the Tsunami?
Informative?
(f/x: shakes head in despair...)
This is IBM. They'll be running OS/400, AIX and Linux on it.
(Much as I would like OS/400 to die completely, it's still quite popular...)
Also, the 'distributed with the OS' line is just unenforcable.
What is 'distributed with the OS'. Windows versions have different incompatible versions of MSVCRT, so to make your app work you also have to distribute it. Is this not now 'distributed with the OS'? Is this a GPL violaton?
If a GPL Solaris app links to Kerberos, and you don't have the library and have to download and install from Sun. Is this not now 'distributed with the OS'. Did you just break the GPL?
Remember despite the fact that the GPL states that it only covers distribution this is manifestly untrue - it covers linking too.
It depends on how you interpret the GPL.
The most extereme is the MySql interpretation, which says that even if you don't ship any MySql binaries but provide a hook, and one of your users downloads the GPL version and runs it, *you* are in violation and muct pay for $300 per user license. Even if your software is opensource but not GPL.