How is this move by Redhat in concept any different from what Novell did? I still think that Microsoft is the agressor/enemy, not either RH nor Novell (nor SUSE)...
I don't use SuSE, either. I wasn't happy with the way that Novell bought DR-DOS and basically laid there like a dead fish.
How does this make you mad at RHEL/Fedora and not Microsoft?
I've been planning to avoid MS Win8 from the beginning. If I wanted a tablet, i'd have one by now. If I have new hardware, I'll put the OS I want on it, and if I can't then I won't buy it. It's that simple.
This whole thing makes me pissed at RH/Fedora because they're effectively letting MS think they can turn this into a "win/win" situation: MS either makes money selling half-assed operating systems that hardware is locked into using or MS makes money by licensing access to that hardware.
Red Hat is willing to pay to be licensed to be able to run on the new hardware. They are going out of their way so you can run Fedora on the new hardware. And you want to ditch them because of it? Remind me never to buy you a beer.
I think it sets a really bad precedence, to be perfectly honest, and I don't like it a bit.
As for the beer, don't lose sleep over it: I don't drink.
I've been a fan of Red Hat/Fedora since... well, just after they started providing a distro on the Intel platform (some of us remember when Red Hat was only available for the DEC Alpha)...
I think it's time to consider a new distro, if this is how they want to work. I've been putting off looking at Mint, but I guess that will change soon.
I was going to comment to this article and say pretty-much what you just did.
It's one thing to be confident in what you do. That's fine. It's quite another thing to be cocky to a fault, and that's where Christoforo is.
If you think about it, we all have "bad days", but we don't have that many. Christoforo still isn't fully convinced that he did anything wrong, and that's where his problem lies. He has to realize that people need to be handled with respect, even if they are in the wrong. There is no justification for berating anyone, no matter what connections either side may have. From what I've read of the email thread, I think Christoforo was in the wrong from early on. Instead of realizing his mistake and addressing the real problem (timing of delivery of a product that was already paid for), he let his ego get in the way and it only made matters worse.
Instead of issuing an apology and learning a lesson, he still seems belligerent over the matter. He has a lot of growing up to do.
I think the closest we have seen in the 20+ years I've been using and playing with computers is when certain Linux distributions were released to overlay MS Windows. Windows didn't like it much and there was some tinkering to be done to account for that, but it was doable then. Why it hasn't persisted into something more mainstream could be due to Corporate Greed, where companies like Microsoft want their OS to dominate uber alles...
tl;dr: Can it be done? Yes. Has it been done? Yes. Do all OSs like it? No.
By "run as Administrator", I'm including the Stupid Applications(tm) that require Administrator access just to run it. That's simply retarded, no matter how you slice it.
While I certainly agree that is annoying and insecure, how is that the fault of the OS?
End Users have a nasty tendency to judge an operating system by its applications, else they would have given serious consideration to other OSs that have come and gone over the years. Since they do, why can't I?
Pure 100% FUD. I've been running windows as the default admin user on the web since it was invented. In almost 20 years I've never had an experience that any regular human would deem as 'unsafe'. We're not talking riding a motorcycle without a helmet, or running with scissors type unsafe here. Let's keep it in perspective.
You are truly one of the Lucky Ones. I've seen systems that (literally) were infected out of the box.
Have you actually used Windows 7 (or Vista, for that matter)? They haven't had "run-by-default-as-administrator" enabled (and strongly warn against it) during the setup process.
Don't talk stupid talk.
Yes, I have. I have a system I use frequently that has Win7, another with Vista, and two with XP. My preference? My Linux server.
By "run as Administrator", I'm including the Stupid Applications(tm) that require Administrator access just to run it. That's simply retarded, no matter how you slice it.
But choosing.NET is a choice, and whenever anybody does it, I can't help but ask "why?"
I do.NET because that's where the money is. Next question please!
There's no "money in it" if the employer won't hire you for knowing it.
On the other hand, there are lots of employers that ARE looking for.NET developers (or Mono developers), so it could just be that the OP was being sensationalistic....
The funny part about that is that if they DO use my likeness in a Starbucks advert and I find out about it, I'll make no bones telling everyone on FB how much I detest Starbucks coffee. Oddly enough, I'll drink coffee in any form except decaf and Starbucks.
Palin Zealots aren't allowed to ride on dinosaurs as dinosaurs where put there by god to test man's ability to deceive itself into believe the earth is only 6000 years old and one of the first ones born lived to be 900 of those years.
According to the Bible, Methuselah was 969 when he died. If you're going to mock Judeo-Christian beliefs, get it right.
I voted for Obama in the primaries only because I didn't want Hillary Clinton to win, and I honestly didn't think he stood a snowball's chance of winning on his own. That action (added to the actions of other voters, obviously) helped to put him in office.
It's not a mistake I care to repeat. Going forward, I'm voting for those I honestly support (or the closest thing there is of those available), not the "weakest opponent".
Who will that be in 2012? Your guess is as good as mine.
The Energy Department, of course. It has completely and utterly failed to live up to its stated goal at inception: to reduce our nation's dependence on foreign oil.
Basically making most of the comments not funny...
I'm thinking that it reeks of "revisionist history" because it makes no record of the mistake ever have been there, and most of the posters are looking like dyslexic goofs.:\
Nah. It's gone WAY past that. I think/. jumped the shark when they started posting article stuffs on Facebook... Why bother with the site itself anymore?
The only people I ever hear calling him "messiah" are right-wingers.
Oh? What, then, do you think of when you read fluff like this?
"I am going to try to be so persuasive, so that those of you who are still wavering...will suddenly come to the conclusion -- a light beam will shine through -- will light you up -- and you will experience an epiphany -- I have to vote for Barack!" -- Barack Obama, Lebanon, New Hampshire, January 7, 2008.
If you want to indoctrinate your children into the Cult of Obama, you might start with "Son of Promise, Child of Hope" (Simon & Schuster, 2008).
They sound pretty ridiculous and juvenile when they do it.
Maybe so, but only because they're rank amateurs, compared to the fanbois that do it all the time.
See, when you start taking Algebra and Pre-Calc, you learn things like the proof in TFA... This is Old News(tm). I learned it in high school, 20+ years ago, and it was Old News(tm) then...
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This is where we learn that the Government's response is written in their version of inverted Mindfuck.
They want to see who's smart enough to figure it out.
How is this move by Redhat in concept any different from what Novell did? I still think that Microsoft is the agressor/enemy, not either RH nor Novell (nor SUSE)...
I don't use SuSE, either. I wasn't happy with the way that Novell bought DR-DOS and basically laid there like a dead fish.
How does this make you mad at RHEL/Fedora and not Microsoft?
I've been planning to avoid MS Win8 from the beginning. If I wanted a tablet, i'd have one by now. If I have new hardware, I'll put the OS I want on it, and if I can't then I won't buy it. It's that simple.
This whole thing makes me pissed at RH/Fedora because they're effectively letting MS think they can turn this into a "win/win" situation: MS either makes money selling half-assed operating systems that hardware is locked into using or MS makes money by licensing access to that hardware.
Screw them, screw the hardware.
Red Hat is willing to pay to be licensed to be able to run on the new hardware. They are going out of their way so you can run Fedora on the new hardware. And you want to ditch them because of it? Remind me never to buy you a beer.
I think it sets a really bad precedence, to be perfectly honest, and I don't like it a bit.
As for the beer, don't lose sleep over it: I don't drink.
I've been a fan of Red Hat/Fedora since... well, just after they started providing a distro on the Intel platform (some of us remember when Red Hat was only available for the DEC Alpha)...
I think it's time to consider a new distro, if this is how they want to work. I've been putting off looking at Mint, but I guess that will change soon.
No, it will definitely end. About 70 years after the last lawyer died.
There. FTFY.
I was going to comment to this article and say pretty-much what you just did.
It's one thing to be confident in what you do. That's fine. It's quite another thing to be cocky to a fault, and that's where Christoforo is.
If you think about it, we all have "bad days", but we don't have that many. Christoforo still isn't fully convinced that he did anything wrong, and that's where his problem lies. He has to realize that people need to be handled with respect, even if they are in the wrong. There is no justification for berating anyone, no matter what connections either side may have. From what I've read of the email thread, I think Christoforo was in the wrong from early on. Instead of realizing his mistake and addressing the real problem (timing of delivery of a product that was already paid for), he let his ego get in the way and it only made matters worse.
Instead of issuing an apology and learning a lesson, he still seems belligerent over the matter. He has a lot of growing up to do.
OS limitations.
I think the closest we have seen in the 20+ years I've been using and playing with computers is when certain Linux distributions were released to overlay MS Windows. Windows didn't like it much and there was some tinkering to be done to account for that, but it was doable then. Why it hasn't persisted into something more mainstream could be due to Corporate Greed, where companies like Microsoft want their OS to dominate uber alles...
tl;dr: Can it be done? Yes. Has it been done? Yes. Do all OSs like it? No.
By "run as Administrator", I'm including the Stupid Applications(tm) that require Administrator access just to run it. That's simply retarded, no matter how you slice it.
While I certainly agree that is annoying and insecure, how is that the fault of the OS?
End Users have a nasty tendency to judge an operating system by its applications, else they would have given serious consideration to other OSs that have come and gone over the years. Since they do, why can't I?
Pure 100% FUD.
I've been running windows as the default admin user on the web since it was invented. In almost 20 years I've never had an experience that any regular human would deem as 'unsafe'. We're not talking riding a motorcycle without a helmet, or running with scissors type unsafe here. Let's keep it in perspective.
You are truly one of the Lucky Ones. I've seen systems that (literally) were infected out of the box.
Have you actually used Windows 7 (or Vista, for that matter)? They haven't had "run-by-default-as-administrator" enabled (and strongly warn against it) during the setup process.
Don't talk stupid talk.
Yes, I have. I have a system I use frequently that has Win7, another with Vista, and two with XP. My preference? My Linux server.
By "run as Administrator", I'm including the Stupid Applications(tm) that require Administrator access just to run it. That's simply retarded, no matter how you slice it.
...is still in its shrink-wrap.
Any OS that allows users to run as "root" or "Administrator" by default is far from safe on today's Internet and should be avoided.
But choosing .NET is a choice, and whenever anybody does it, I can't help but ask "why?"
I do .NET because that's where the money is. Next question please!
There's no "money in it" if the employer won't hire you for knowing it.
On the other hand, there are lots of employers that ARE looking for .NET developers (or Mono developers), so it could just be that the OP was being sensationalistic....
The funny part about that is that if they DO use my likeness in a Starbucks advert and I find out about it, I'll make no bones telling everyone on FB how much I detest Starbucks coffee. Oddly enough, I'll drink coffee in any form except decaf and Starbucks.
Stupid Marketeering retards.
...and 1a) that they'd post about it in a public forum, like Slashdot? :D
Palin Zealots aren't allowed to ride on dinosaurs as dinosaurs where put there by god to test man's ability to deceive itself into believe the earth is only 6000 years old and one of the first ones born lived to be 900 of those years.
According to the Bible, Methuselah was 969 when he died. If you're going to mock Judeo-Christian beliefs, get it right.
This stunt could put Palin in office.
You're not kidding.
I voted for Obama in the primaries only because I didn't want Hillary Clinton to win, and I honestly didn't think he stood a snowball's chance of winning on his own. That action (added to the actions of other voters, obviously) helped to put him in office.
It's not a mistake I care to repeat. Going forward, I'm voting for those I honestly support (or the closest thing there is of those available), not the "weakest opponent".
Who will that be in 2012? Your guess is as good as mine.
The Energy Department, of course. It has completely and utterly failed to live up to its stated goal at inception: to reduce our nation's dependence on foreign oil.
Basically making most of the comments not funny...
I'm thinking that it reeks of "revisionist history" because it makes no record of the mistake ever have been there, and most of the posters are looking like dyslexic goofs. :\
Someone edited the title to correct it and neglected to make a note of the correction with the article. Nice.
Next thing you know, you'll say it's stagnated
Nah. It's gone WAY past that. I think /. jumped the shark when they started posting article stuffs on Facebook... Why bother with the site itself anymore?
In the same vein, "Germany" has no name (that I am aware of) in English that is remotely close to what the natives call it: Deutchland.
So... Yeah. "Burma is the English name for that patch of land" works for me.
You can look up all the episodes here. The first time they looked at this myth was in 2004. The second time was in 2006.
The only people I ever hear calling him "messiah" are right-wingers.
Oh? What, then, do you think of when you read fluff like this?
"I am going to try to be so persuasive, so that those of you who are still wavering...will suddenly come to the conclusion -- a light beam will shine through -- will light you up -- and you will experience an epiphany -- I have to vote for Barack!" -- Barack Obama, Lebanon, New Hampshire, January 7, 2008.
If you want to indoctrinate your children into the Cult of Obama, you might start with "Son of Promise, Child of Hope" (Simon & Schuster, 2008).
They sound pretty ridiculous and juvenile when they do it.
Maybe so, but only because they're rank amateurs, compared to the fanbois that do it all the time.
Just FYI.
Yeah. FYI.
See, when you start taking Algebra and Pre-Calc, you learn things like the proof in TFA... This is Old News(tm). I learned it in high school, 20+ years ago, and it was Old News(tm) then...