For those that code OS projects, why do you do it? If you're not willing to go the whole mile, what's the point? Is it that you want to show everyone what a crappy UI you can muster? I don't get it. For those that say, "if you don't like it, do it yourself," I'd like to offer this: "if you're only willing to do a half-assed job, why bother?"
I agree totally, except that Americans are a weird bunch. They tend to their entertainment like they'd tend to a bad crack habit. I don't know what it is, but our visual fields and soundscapes have become vast dumping grounds from the bybroducts of human titillation. People don't have the discipline to resist. So in theory, I believe you are quite correct...in practice, I'm not sure that many people can actually make the change. A sure sign of weakness, if you ask me.
What kind of acceptance testing was implemented that allowed this kind of UI bug to slip through? And, considering the fact that you are paying them to deliver a reasonably competent product, why wasn't this fixed?
If anything, the school ought to be given credit for demonstrating, to both students AND faculty, that you don't have to follow BillG around like a bunch of sheep following a bellwether. The best part is that you can survive the experience quite handily.
So maybe these students won't be able to say they have "MS WORD experience." Big deal. Do you think it's that much of a leap to sit down in front of MS Word and learn the basics within a couple of hours?
That's people for you. Assholes, really. They take an amazing amount of advantage of something that's there for everyone, and ruin it...for everyone. It's the American way, I guess.
In the end, it's all down to money, and in the movie business there's loads of it floating around.
And guess where all that money is coming from.
It goes to prove that there's nothing special about Americans. They'll happily hand over their money to someone who will hang them, just as readily as citizens of any other culture. As soon as people stop being stupid with their money, lazy, or both, problems like these can be on their way to being resolved.
It's sad, not only because of the unemployment and social upheaval, but because great swaths of that abandoned land cannot be reclaimed for agriculture. The soil and groundwater is too polluted. So the hulks of the factories remain, the rusting monuments to America's fading greatness.
Don't you see that as somewhat ironic? I'm wondering if this alleged "greatness" refers to the illusion of greatness. Behind the scenes, there are plenty of examples where things are rotting at the core.
A thought came to mind...by this reasoning, I'd guess that there's no such thing as "identity theft" since a victim is not deprived of his/her identity. I wonder how many other non-tangible forms of theft exist...
VC money meet marketing. I've always thought that marketing and "double-speak with absolutely no useful information" were synonymous. But hey- if those full-color brochures don't prove that the product is good, then I don't know what will.
I think the parent was suggesting that you not sell them technologies, but solutions. Solutions are brand-neutral, and require little to no additional knowledge on the part of the consumer. As long as the software does what they need, I'm not so sure the means by which that happens is all that important.
The game is *fixed*, and you can't win playing a fixed game.
Just stop playing. You'll win. You'll get to keep your money, you won't be funding an entertainment industry that has become a new form of quasi government, and they get to keep their slop. It's called empowerment. Having done this for more than 5 years now, I can say that it's a wonderful thing when you're the one in control.
The library taking a stand like this gives me slightly more confidence in trusting them with biometric data.
Sorry, but no matter how you look at it, there is absolutely NO rational basis that would justify a PUBLIC library requesting or retaining biometric data- AT ALL. IT doesn't matter what their policy is...policies can be broken, ignored, or whatever. The important thing that people need to remember is that once the cat is out of the bag, for all intents and purposes, it's out for good. You have no control over it.
The only thing a PUBLIC library should be concerned with is a way to contact me- I present an acceptable ID, they get an address and phone number, I get a library card. That's it.
Your scenario is definitely one way of looking at it, but I consider the types you mention to be idealists - they have a true vision. There are many others whose only vision is $$ while they sleep at night. These are the opportunists- the ones who will take an existing application of a current technology, add their own two cents worth to it, and then use it as a source of revenue. These people don't care about dreams, they care about results- the fastest and cheapest way to get from where they are to where they want to be.
I'm tempted to start thinking that these "paid for by Bllly G" studies are not necessarily how things actually work, but how he thinks they ought to work- a theory vs reality thing.
I mean, there are so many stories of greedy unions making power grabs...remember the California grocery store workers strike? Remember what that was over? They were upset about having to share some of the costs of the rising cost of healthcare.
In all fairness, It think it really starts to chap peoples' asses when they see the executive management walking away with either huge salaries (regardless of profitability), or HUGE golden parachutes if they are replaced. In fact, I'd posit that this, at least to some extent, might have some influence on the overall tone when it comes time to negotiate how to split up what's left of the revenue pie.
It makes me wonder when a good part of Microsoft's communication with the general public entails deriding the success of others. What I find particularly funny about it is that in all these areas, Microsoft is following, not leading. Note to Steve: it doesn't matter how much lip service an organization is willing to pay to the idea of innvation, if you aren't first (with something that isn't painfully obvious), you're not innovating.
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For those that code OS projects, why do you do it? If you're not willing to go the whole mile, what's the point? Is it that you want to show everyone what a crappy UI you can muster? I don't get it. For those that say, "if you don't like it, do it yourself," I'd like to offer this: "if you're only willing to do a half-assed job, why bother?"
If you can tell me what my cable connection has to do with the commons-turned-waste-dumps that I mentioned, I'll answer your question.
I agree totally, except that Americans are a weird bunch. They tend to their entertainment like they'd tend to a bad crack habit. I don't know what it is, but our visual fields and soundscapes have become vast dumping grounds from the bybroducts of human titillation. People don't have the discipline to resist. So in theory, I believe you are quite correct...in practice, I'm not sure that many people can actually make the change. A sure sign of weakness, if you ask me.
What kind of acceptance testing was implemented that allowed this kind of UI bug to slip through? And, considering the fact that you are paying them to deliver a reasonably competent product, why wasn't this fixed?
Just worries me because some day in the future, the need for owning a full fledged computer may be unjustifiable..,
You realize that's heresy, don't you? ; )
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If anything, the school ought to be given credit for demonstrating, to both students AND faculty, that you don't have to follow BillG around like a bunch of sheep following a bellwether. The best part is that you can survive the experience quite handily.
So maybe these students won't be able to say they have "MS WORD experience." Big deal. Do you think it's that much of a leap to sit down in front of MS Word and learn the basics within a couple of hours?
That's people for you. Assholes, really. They take an amazing amount of advantage of something that's there for everyone, and ruin it...for everyone. It's the American way, I guess.
In the end, it's all down to money, and in the movie business there's loads of it floating around.
And guess where all that money is coming from.
It goes to prove that there's nothing special about Americans. They'll happily hand over their money to someone who will hang them, just as readily as citizens of any other culture. As soon as people stop being stupid with their money, lazy, or both, problems like these can be on their way to being resolved.
It's sad, not only because of the unemployment and social upheaval, but because great swaths of that abandoned land cannot be reclaimed for agriculture. The soil and groundwater is too polluted. So the hulks of the factories remain, the rusting monuments to America's fading greatness.
Don't you see that as somewhat ironic? I'm wondering if this alleged "greatness" refers to the illusion of greatness. Behind the scenes, there are plenty of examples where things are rotting at the core.
A thought came to mind...by this reasoning, I'd guess that there's no such thing as "identity theft" since a victim is not deprived of his/her identity. I wonder how many other non-tangible forms of theft exist...
I'd like to read up on the case where this was decided, so any links you can point me to will be appreciated.
VC money meet marketing. I've always thought that marketing and "double-speak with absolutely no useful information" were synonymous. But hey- if those full-color brochures don't prove that the product is good, then I don't know what will.
If I had mod points, this is definitely where i'd put one of them.
I think the parent was suggesting that you not sell them technologies, but solutions. Solutions are brand-neutral, and require little to no additional knowledge on the part of the consumer. As long as the software does what they need, I'm not so sure the means by which that happens is all that important.
The game is *fixed*, and you can't win playing a fixed game.
Just stop playing. You'll win. You'll get to keep your money, you won't be funding an entertainment industry that has become a new form of quasi government, and they get to keep their slop. It's called empowerment. Having done this for more than 5 years now, I can say that it's a wonderful thing when you're the one in control.
The library taking a stand like this gives me slightly more confidence in trusting them with biometric data.
Sorry, but no matter how you look at it, there is absolutely NO rational basis that would justify a PUBLIC library requesting or retaining biometric data- AT ALL. IT doesn't matter what their policy is...policies can be broken, ignored, or whatever. The important thing that people need to remember is that once the cat is out of the bag, for all intents and purposes, it's out for good. You have no control over it.
The only thing a PUBLIC library should be concerned with is a way to contact me- I present an acceptable ID, they get an address and phone number, I get a library card. That's it.
Your scenario is definitely one way of looking at it, but I consider the types you mention to be idealists - they have a true vision. There are many others whose only vision is $$ while they sleep at night. These are the opportunists- the ones who will take an existing application of a current technology, add their own two cents worth to it, and then use it as a source of revenue. These people don't care about dreams, they care about results- the fastest and cheapest way to get from where they are to where they want to be.
That's easy.....I have an idea...I only hire you to implement the idea. I keep everything. Happens all the time.
I'm tempted to start thinking that these "paid for by Bllly G" studies are not necessarily how things actually work, but how he thinks they ought to work- a theory vs reality thing.
To that end, MS's software is built to create, manage and make accessible piles of information.
This should read, "....built to create....piles of information...". Think "signal-to-noise".
I mean, there are so many stories of greedy unions making power grabs...remember the California grocery store workers strike? Remember what that was over? They were upset about having to share some of the costs of the rising cost of healthcare.
In all fairness, It think it really starts to chap peoples' asses when they see the executive management walking away with either huge salaries (regardless of profitability), or HUGE golden parachutes if they are replaced. In fact, I'd posit that this, at least to some extent, might have some influence on the overall tone when it comes time to negotiate how to split up what's left of the revenue pie.
It makes me wonder when a good part of Microsoft's communication with the general public entails deriding the success of others. What I find particularly funny about it is that in all these areas, Microsoft is following, not leading. Note to Steve: it doesn't matter how much lip service an organization is willing to pay to the idea of innvation, if you aren't first (with something that isn't painfully obvious), you're not innovating.
What benefit was received from the billions spent on Star Wars by Ronnie RayGun?