What you're avoiding is that some animals have nervous systems and cognition. If you respect intelligence and sentience, that should be protected. Cows are not stupid. Pigs are quite smart. Plants have basically nothing going on beyond failure sensors. Comparing all as if equal is really dumb, in my view.
So you will eat anything that isn't sentient? You just fell into the trap that has vegans arguing about whether oysters are vegan or not.
I make my decisions on what to eat by what my body was designed to eat. Humans are by nature omnivores. That some would adopt a prey diet, and try to justify it on ethical grounds is just another inconsistency in their logic. Is a vulture evil? Is a lion or other frank carnivore evil? Is a horse or Pika good because they eat only vegetation? Humans are a part of nature. We do have the ability to choose to harvest the meat that we eat in as humane way as possible, which I wholeheartedly believe in.
Choice between sfomey grilled insects and 'real meat' obviously leads to eating both.
Ever eat prawns or shrimps? Most insects taste in the middle between sea food and nuts, grilled nuts. In otrqhero words: they don't even compare with most meats.
Might as well get it out of the way - everyone eats insects at some point. If we eat grain products, we are getting a certain amount of insect matter. There is an allowable amount of every manner of matter including fecal matter.
As for Prawns/shrimp, sure. I love them boiled in beer and Old Bay seasoning. Or sauteed in butter or garlic. And Lobster too. But they have meat on them. Identifiable meat.
Now we return to the insects. I devein shrimp. Deveining is a nice word for removing the instestinal tract. That is fecal matter I'm removing. I eat the tails and claws on a lobster. But when we eat crickets or grubs, or whatever insect suits one's fancy, we are consuming their excrement as well as whatever protein they posesss. Note that this is partially acknowledged by the practice of feeding escargot snails cabbage for a short time before they are eaten. But cabbage manure is still manure.
Me? No thanks. I'm just not a person who purposely eats shit.
Longtime vegan here. You don't know what you are talking about at all.
That is the response one would get from a vegan. Being insulted and at base, condescending. Yet managing to miss the point by fixating on your trigger words.
Eliminating meat from the diet is very bad for some people. This is not open for debate except by people who somehow trump reality with their opinion. Some people actually go insane. In my case, I merely wrecked my digestive system for a year by going lacto-ovarian.
I know many vegetarians and vegans, and the seem to be absolutely fine, and hold down responsible jobs requiring application of higher thinking skills, despite being vegetarians or vegans for decades. I'd want to see better evidence for the claims than a newspaper article and one anecdote.
Hey man how about you stop ridiculing people that like insects and instead maybe bother to TRY ONE. The insects are very tasty and are better than hormone containing beef which *will* make you hit puberty sooner and *will* make you have clogged arteries sooner. I find it telling that people like you are so quick to judge without ever trying first basically like you have a notion of what something is just by guessing at it.
Hey man, eating insects is starvation food. Why don't you try giving a person a choice between a nice steak and a bunch of dried crickets. See what they choose if they are a person that ordinarily eats meat.
That cricket or ant did not give you permission to eat it, so you are evil, right? That is morally wrong, right?
It is a universally accepted fact that meat is "evil" in many ways. You are killing a living orgasm just to have something that is pleasurable to eat.
Probably depends on what universe you live in.
That animal, whether it be a fish or a cow or a river otter or a chicken (each culture has its "tastes") has feelings and knows it's about to die when it is on the chopping block. Imagine chopping up your mother or brother. It takes about 10x the amount of energy to create a pound of meat than it does a pound of wheat. So real civilized people would instead explore novel ways to create food that does not harm other living organisms.
Sorry, but you need to check your animals uber alles privilege. All life is precious you insensitive clod, and you do not live unless you kill something. Plant? You killed, animal? You killed it. Your immune system is a certified killer of life. I suggest you try breatharianism. That would do the world the favor that you desire.
This. There is a long out of print book by Mark Vonnegut called "The Eden Express" Mark suffered from Schizophrenia in the early 1970's, and much of his problems were based on a vegetarian diet. After stabilizing him with Thorazine and shock treatments, he went on a normal diet, and with vitamin supplements, became a normal productive person.
I tried vegatarianism in the early 1980's, and while I didn't go any crazier than I am now, it severely fucked up my digestive system. Fortunately, going back to a normal diet reset my intestinal flora.
That's vegetarian -- vegan diet is far more harmful.
I have always thought that a vegan starts out with trying to define everything in life as good or bad (this is a bad thing to do, and leads to bad mental outcomes) So they embark on a journey to try to ensure that everything they do is good.
Killing animals is bad, especially the cute ones, so eating their "corpse meat" is likewise bad. So they stop. That Chicken didn't give you permission to eat it's eggs, or that cow it's milk or the honey we callously steal from the innocent bees. So that is verboten.
So they embark on this completely irrational and artificial and un-natural diet of only things they have determined are ethically "good".
My reply to them is that just who are they to set themselves up as arbiter of what is good and bad.
All life is precious, from the lowest bacteria to yeasts, to plants, to animals. And unless a human being somehow becomes a chemoautotroph, and can surgive by directly taking minerals and digesting them, the human does not live unless the human kills another life form. No way around it. The vegan is no less a killer than the meat eaters they consider below them.
But so far there has NOT been a good substitute in terms of taste, texture, and nutritional value.
I'd pin my hopes on vat-grown beef before a plant-based option.
Exactly. I question the ability to produce a lot of other nutrients beside just the meat proteins.
But reading the transcript, that was a 100 percent vegan mutual masturbation session. Worse than the people that come on and bleat about how awesome it is to eat insects
The fact that the CEO was female was part of their hype. They did this.
The fact that they failed was because they had a fundamentally flawed product that they were never able to fix and they engaged in widespread fraud and deception to avoid facing up to their problems. This has no relation to the sex of their CEO. It's common in industry.
That's where these companies get into trouble. It is obvious that gender isn't specifically related to success or failure. Happens all the time to male or female CEOs.
But the selfsame people who shout from the rooftops that the company is wisely being run by a woman, and make certain everyone knows that this woman is a symbol of casting off the shackles of the Patriarchy and shattering the glass ceiling ( Fiorina first deinied there was one, then backpedaled) - and now the place for a woman is on top......
They manage to forget all of that if she fails. Remember when Carly Fiorina took over HP? Man, those were good times. Some folks even defend her ineptitude. A chicago Tribune article by Megan McCardle weirdly noted "Critiques of Fiorina's tenure seem excessively focused on the outcome."
Go figure. Marissa Mayer, who caused many to swoon in happiness when she made her entrance as the leader of Yahoo, while rather pregnant, proving that a woman can truly have it all, then proved nothing of the sort. also comes to mind.
The problem is, we simply cannot have it both ways, and be taken seriously. If people like Mayer, Fiorina, and Holmes are touted as the harbingers of a brave and successful new world of Women CEO's when they take the helm, it is pretty disingenuous to claim that gender no longer matters to some people when they fail.
Before the usual suspects get all upset, they shouldn't brag about a female CEO until she provides a track record, not just because she showed up to work one day. Who am I kidding, the narrative is as unshakeable as a trickle down theorist's failed concepts. They hate it when I compare them to right wing zealots too. Good.
Ignoring for a minute the difference between incompetence and fraud, it's worth pointing out that a big selling point for this venture was the gender and youthfulness of the CEO. Nearly every article and interview I saw when the "technology" was first being revealed spent as much time fawning over how wonderful it was to have a young woman "researcher and CEO" as they did actually discussing her supposed invention.
Had she been an old white dude, Theranos would never have gotten the publicity it did. It's fair to point out that her gender played a role in the continuing success of her scam.
An where I worked, it was a requirement to favor purchase decisions specifically on the gender of the Owner/CEO. https://www.ellevatenetwork.co...
Yeah, cars formed through Natural Selection. Shitty cars like the Edsel died. Putting panels on the ground is stupid. Putting panels underground is a whole new level of stupidity.
South Korea has a "solar highway", but they put raised panels over a bikeway in the middle. Bicyclists can ride in the shade and the panels have unobstructed light at the best angle.
What's wrong with having just your business shift their schedule?
What's wrong with shifting your own schedule? If it's bright out at 4 AM, maybe you should just get up at 4 AM and do your yard work or TV-watching then. Think of work as an afternoon thing.
So my personal schedule has to be shifted by a couple minutes a day, my business has to be likewise shifted, and the personal and business shifts have to be shifted based upon the latitude of the persons and businesses in question? Then add to that the mix of different places on the globe not being in the same Day/Night state as mine.
This is like a return to days of youre when most people were subsistance farming, and the limits of commerce were the local horizon. But the qorld is a lot smaller place. Sunrise and sunset in a oblate spheroid that wobbles should not be the determinant of local time, or at least it simply cannot be tied to sunrise/sunset.
At present, we have Universal Time, which used to be known as Grenwich Mean Time. A slightly different way of calculating the two but more or less the same. Aside from the inevitable arbitrariness of when to set the 0 hour and where to set it, UT works well enough. I know that 0000 UT is 7:00 PM local time, during Eastern Standard time. I simply subtract 5 hours. During DST, I subtract 4 hours.
I suppose that in the pure Libertarian state, anyone can set their own personal time, because no one tells me what to do, but an arbitrary system of arbitrary hours and arbitrary seconds has to become a standard at some point. Now is it perfect? Hell no, that's why we have things like Daylight savings time.
Daylight savings time might seem pointless in areas of lower latitude, but at higher latitudes, there is a much larger swing in length of the day. Today in Key West Fl, the daylength is 10 hours, 37 minutes and 2 seconds. Bangor Maine today is 8 hours, 47 minutes and 41 seconds. Anchorage Alaska is 5 hours, 28 minutes, and 20 seconds. Just about half of Key West's daylength.
Try applying your metric to that range of times. I can imagine someone from Key West trying to communicate with someone on a business or military matter and trying to compute the times they can call based upon the local day/night cycle.
As another fun issue, I'll note that the Winter Solstice in Anchorage is 5 hours, 27 minutes, and 50 seconds, that is 13 hours and 54 minutes shorter than the June Solstice. That's almost like adjusting to Swing shits - which people don't do very well. As well, the sunrise and sunset times are different depending on the day. The earliest sunset in Anchorage this year was on December 16th, (3:40 PM) and the latest sunrise in on Tuesday december 26th, (10:15 AM) Neither of which are on the shortest day.
Most cures for Daylight savings time are worse than the problem of daylight savings time. If we try to finesse the whole thing, we either end up with a locally controlled mess, or pick a minute by minute difference - or finer - in microtime zones.
Gee, why not go on quadruple savings time then? You can have the sun out until 1AM!!
Because there are only 24 hours in a day Because that isn't the point of DST.
Or you could simply admit that DST is just a silly attempt at self-deception to get ourselves to do things earlier
No, it is an attempt to allow people to have daylight while they are doing work. This requires working within the fact that in most places, daylight is many hours longer in the summer than in the winter. During early spring before we move to DST, it is getting daylight at 4 AM. The concept that we're supposed to adapt to the local day night cycle of every place on earth just substitutes a much more complicated adjustment then thinking of timezones. I deal with East Coast to West Coast communication all the time. I don't call them before 11 AM my time, and they don't call me beyond 2 PM their time.
Now when tying the whole thing to daylight/darkness in each area, you have a real mess. Even in my case, there is a fair difference between say San Diego and Seattle.
I had an assistant who couldn't figure that stuff out. When I was on travel to the West coast, he would call me as soon as he got into work at 0730-0800. Nothing like getting woke up in the wee hours. Told him after the tenth time that unless it was an emergency and I had to make the decision, he would either have to make it or wait until 11 AM. Or find a different place to work.
. If we want to do things in the sun after work, we need to go to work early and get out of work early. Lying to ourselves about the time is one of the most ridiculous ways imaginable to try to do this.
12 noon should be left as close as possible to true solar noon.
In future years, the idea that the government mandated that people lie to themselves about the time will seem as bizarre as the strangest medieval legal customs seem to us today.
So, what you're saying is that your employer doesn't realize that "4PM with daylight savings time" and "5PM with daylight savings time" are the exact same time?
I don't think "because people are complete and utter morons" is a good reason to keep doing DST.
Perhaps you are an apartment dweller who never sees the outside except during waiting for a bus or train. But there are a lot of us who have not only our jobs, but outside work to do as well. And those extra hours of daylight during the summer are a godsend.
Where I'm at, it is getting daylight at 4 AM in the summer. Pretty much hard to take advantage of that unless we shift it a little. Work is 8-5, so if I can have that extra daylight at a useful time, its all good. I'd take a 2 hour shift, but that's pushing what the people who don't have any need for DST will accept.
I can come up with a lot of reasons it probably won't work very well.
But that isn't how this technology stuff works. Petrochemical internal combustion engines didn't rise form the sea, perfectly formed like Venus. An incredible difference between a huge hit and miss engine and say, my 4 cylinder Jeep Engine. Power, weight,maintenance all in favor of my not particularly notable engine otherwise. The old engine has torque and steampunk cool.
Any Slashdotters think we should have stopped improving IC engines at the Hit and Miss stage?
There are certain aspects of getting electrical power from those long ribbons of highway that make attempts to extract that potential pretty interesting.
Will this work? Probably not. But its certain that it won't work if it isn't built. It is their money.
Great. So I'm a local electronics store. I sell someone a laptop for.1 BTC. Fair deal. That transaction is queued for a few days. He wants to walk out of the store with the laptop today. Either the store takes a huge risk of fraud (or even mistake), or the user can't get what he buys for days. Which is why anyone who thinks this is a workable currency is a fucking idiot.
Which is why bitcoin isn't a real currency - it's like Gold, with the added liability that it is intrinsically worthless. But the same problem would occur if you tried to buy say, a million dollar house with a million dollars worth of gold. On what day.
This is just the money freaks finding the latest way to screw things up.
Firefox has become overrun by nannies lately, and is now purposely breaking itself. I've dumped it for Chrome. Not that I'm wild about Chrome, but at least it hasn't become a malfunctioning mess. Say hi to Netscape for us when you reach your destination, Mozilla.
Just another reply, and I'll stop.Yesterday Brother Stair, a kook preacher in South Carolina, was arrested on several charges related to sexual assault of a teenage girl. These occured this summer, and the young lady reported the infractions happened over this summer, and reported them, investigators believed her and after evidence gathering. Arrested the man. https://www.postandcourier.com...
This is especially interesting in that this occured in a cult-like atmosphere, considered very difficult to get accusations out of victims at all, much less timely ones. Almost certain that this creep will spend the rest of his life in jail.
Justice delayed is justice denied. Which doesn't fit in your narrative.
Respectfully submitted from a part of the problem, Ol Olsoc.
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What you're avoiding is that some animals have nervous systems and cognition. If you respect intelligence and sentience, that should be protected. Cows are not stupid. Pigs are quite smart. Plants have basically nothing going on beyond failure sensors. Comparing all as if equal is really dumb, in my view.
So you will eat anything that isn't sentient? You just fell into the trap that has vegans arguing about whether oysters are vegan or not.
https://www.thekitchn.com/what...
I make my decisions on what to eat by what my body was designed to eat. Humans are by nature omnivores. That some would adopt a prey diet, and try to justify it on ethical grounds is just another inconsistency in their logic. Is a vulture evil? Is a lion or other frank carnivore evil? Is a horse or Pika good because they eat only vegetation? Humans are a part of nature. We do have the ability to choose to harvest the meat that we eat in as humane way as possible, which I wholeheartedly believe in.
But we are still omnivores.
Choice between sfomey grilled insects and 'real meat' obviously leads to eating both. Ever eat prawns or shrimps? Most insects taste in the middle between sea food and nuts, grilled nuts. In otrqhero words: they don't even compare with most meats.
Might as well get it out of the way - everyone eats insects at some point. If we eat grain products, we are getting a certain amount of insect matter. There is an allowable amount of every manner of matter including fecal matter.
As for Prawns/shrimp, sure. I love them boiled in beer and Old Bay seasoning. Or sauteed in butter or garlic. And Lobster too. But they have meat on them. Identifiable meat.
Now we return to the insects. I devein shrimp. Deveining is a nice word for removing the instestinal tract. That is fecal matter I'm removing. I eat the tails and claws on a lobster. But when we eat crickets or grubs, or whatever insect suits one's fancy, we are consuming their excrement as well as whatever protein they posesss. Note that this is partially acknowledged by the practice of feeding escargot snails cabbage for a short time before they are eaten. But cabbage manure is still manure.
Me? No thanks. I'm just not a person who purposely eats shit.
So, you're saying All Lives Matter then?
Matter matters.
Longtime vegan here. You don't know what you are talking about at all.
That is the response one would get from a vegan. Being insulted and at base, condescending. Yet managing to miss the point by fixating on your trigger words.
Eliminating meat from the diet is very bad for some people. This is not open for debate except by people who somehow trump reality with their opinion. Some people actually go insane. In my case, I merely wrecked my digestive system for a year by going lacto-ovarian.
I know many vegetarians and vegans, and the seem to be absolutely fine, and hold down responsible jobs requiring application of higher thinking skills, despite being vegetarians or vegans for decades. I'd want to see better evidence for the claims than a newspaper article and one anecdote.
Something stopping you?
Hey man how about you stop ridiculing people that like insects and instead maybe bother to TRY ONE. The insects are very tasty and are better than hormone containing beef which *will* make you hit puberty sooner and *will* make you have clogged arteries sooner. I find it telling that people like you are so quick to judge without ever trying first basically like you have a notion of what something is just by guessing at it.
Hey man, eating insects is starvation food. Why don't you try giving a person a choice between a nice steak and a bunch of dried crickets. See what they choose if they are a person that ordinarily eats meat.
That cricket or ant did not give you permission to eat it, so you are evil, right? That is morally wrong, right?
It is a universally accepted fact that meat is "evil" in many ways. You are killing a living orgasm just to have something that is pleasurable to eat.
Probably depends on what universe you live in.
That animal, whether it be a fish or a cow or a river otter or a chicken (each culture has its "tastes") has feelings and knows it's about to die when it is on the chopping block. Imagine chopping up your mother or brother. It takes about 10x the amount of energy to create a pound of meat than it does a pound of wheat. So real civilized people would instead explore novel ways to create food that does not harm other living organisms.
Sorry, but you need to check your animals uber alles privilege. All life is precious you insensitive clod, and you do not live unless you kill something. Plant? You killed, animal? You killed it. Your immune system is a certified killer of life. I suggest you try breatharianism. That would do the world the favor that you desire.
Nope, only some populations are genetically equipped for a vegetarian diet. For the rest, lack of meat causes brain shrinkage and mental disorders.
This. There is a long out of print book by Mark Vonnegut called "The Eden Express" Mark suffered from Schizophrenia in the early 1970's, and much of his problems were based on a vegetarian diet. After stabilizing him with Thorazine and shock treatments, he went on a normal diet, and with vitamin supplements, became a normal productive person.
I tried vegatarianism in the early 1980's, and while I didn't go any crazier than I am now, it severely fucked up my digestive system. Fortunately, going back to a normal diet reset my intestinal flora.
That's vegetarian -- vegan diet is far more harmful.
I have always thought that a vegan starts out with trying to define everything in life as good or bad (this is a bad thing to do, and leads to bad mental outcomes) So they embark on a journey to try to ensure that everything they do is good.
Killing animals is bad, especially the cute ones, so eating their "corpse meat" is likewise bad. So they stop. That Chicken didn't give you permission to eat it's eggs, or that cow it's milk or the honey we callously steal from the innocent bees. So that is verboten.
So they embark on this completely irrational and artificial and un-natural diet of only things they have determined are ethically "good".
My reply to them is that just who are they to set themselves up as arbiter of what is good and bad.
All life is precious, from the lowest bacteria to yeasts, to plants, to animals. And unless a human being somehow becomes a chemoautotroph, and can surgive by directly taking minerals and digesting them, the human does not live unless the human kills another life form. No way around it. The vegan is no less a killer than the meat eaters they consider below them.
But so far there has NOT been a good substitute in terms of taste, texture, and nutritional value.
I'd pin my hopes on vat-grown beef before a plant-based option.
Exactly. I question the ability to produce a lot of other nutrients beside just the meat proteins.
But reading the transcript, that was a 100 percent vegan mutual masturbation session. Worse than the people that come on and bleat about how awesome it is to eat insects
The fact that the CEO was female was part of their hype. They did this. The fact that they failed was because they had a fundamentally flawed product that they were never able to fix and they engaged in widespread fraud and deception to avoid facing up to their problems. This has no relation to the sex of their CEO. It's common in industry.
That's where these companies get into trouble. It is obvious that gender isn't specifically related to success or failure. Happens all the time to male or female CEOs.
But the selfsame people who shout from the rooftops that the company is wisely being run by a woman, and make certain everyone knows that this woman is a symbol of casting off the shackles of the Patriarchy and shattering the glass ceiling ( Fiorina first deinied there was one, then backpedaled) - and now the place for a woman is on top......
They manage to forget all of that if she fails. Remember when Carly Fiorina took over HP? Man, those were good times. Some folks even defend her ineptitude. A chicago Tribune article by Megan McCardle weirdly noted "Critiques of Fiorina's tenure seem excessively focused on the outcome."
Go figure. Marissa Mayer, who caused many to swoon in happiness when she made her entrance as the leader of Yahoo, while rather pregnant, proving that a woman can truly have it all, then proved nothing of the sort. also comes to mind.
The problem is, we simply cannot have it both ways, and be taken seriously. If people like Mayer, Fiorina, and Holmes are touted as the harbingers of a brave and successful new world of Women CEO's when they take the helm, it is pretty disingenuous to claim that gender no longer matters to some people when they fail.
Before the usual suspects get all upset, they shouldn't brag about a female CEO until she provides a track record, not just because she showed up to work one day. Who am I kidding, the narrative is as unshakeable as a trickle down theorist's failed concepts. They hate it when I compare them to right wing zealots too. Good.
Ignoring for a minute the difference between incompetence and fraud, it's worth pointing out that a big selling point for this venture was the gender and youthfulness of the CEO. Nearly every article and interview I saw when the "technology" was first being revealed spent as much time fawning over how wonderful it was to have a young woman "researcher and CEO" as they did actually discussing her supposed invention.
Had she been an old white dude, Theranos would never have gotten the publicity it did. It's fair to point out that her gender played a role in the continuing success of her scam.
An where I worked, it was a requirement to favor purchase decisions specifically on the gender of the Owner/CEO. https://www.ellevatenetwork.co...
You've become an SJW.
Yer not doin' too bad at that yourself, sailor!
Russia.
The US used to (still does, I bet) tap Russian cables. Turnabout is fair play?
Read "Blind Man's Bluff" for stories of us playing all sorts of crazy sub games against the Russians.
Kinda feels like we've got a new Cold War, don't it? Only now it's an Information / Data / Commerce thing, not a Nukes thing.
Besides, this activity has been vetted and approved by the Republican party. It's part of th eparty platfoem now.
Yeah, cars formed through Natural Selection. Shitty cars like the Edsel died. Putting panels on the ground is stupid. Putting panels underground is a whole new level of stupidity.
South Korea has a "solar highway", but they put raised panels over a bikeway in the middle. Bicyclists can ride in the shade and the panels have unobstructed light at the best angle.
Is your post supposed to make any sense?
What's wrong with having just your business shift their schedule? What's wrong with shifting your own schedule? If it's bright out at 4 AM, maybe you should just get up at 4 AM and do your yard work or TV-watching then. Think of work as an afternoon thing.
So my personal schedule has to be shifted by a couple minutes a day, my business has to be likewise shifted, and the personal and business shifts have to be shifted based upon the latitude of the persons and businesses in question? Then add to that the mix of different places on the globe not being in the same Day/Night state as mine.
This is like a return to days of youre when most people were subsistance farming, and the limits of commerce were the local horizon. But the qorld is a lot smaller place. Sunrise and sunset in a oblate spheroid that wobbles should not be the determinant of local time, or at least it simply cannot be tied to sunrise/sunset.
At present, we have Universal Time, which used to be known as Grenwich Mean Time. A slightly different way of calculating the two but more or less the same. Aside from the inevitable arbitrariness of when to set the 0 hour and where to set it, UT works well enough. I know that 0000 UT is 7:00 PM local time, during Eastern Standard time. I simply subtract 5 hours. During DST, I subtract 4 hours.
I suppose that in the pure Libertarian state, anyone can set their own personal time, because no one tells me what to do, but an arbitrary system of arbitrary hours and arbitrary seconds has to become a standard at some point. Now is it perfect? Hell no, that's why we have things like Daylight savings time.
Daylight savings time might seem pointless in areas of lower latitude, but at higher latitudes, there is a much larger swing in length of the day. Today in Key West Fl, the daylength is 10 hours, 37 minutes and 2 seconds. Bangor Maine today is 8 hours, 47 minutes and 41 seconds. Anchorage Alaska is 5 hours, 28 minutes, and 20 seconds. Just about half of Key West's daylength.
Try applying your metric to that range of times. I can imagine someone from Key West trying to communicate with someone on a business or military matter and trying to compute the times they can call based upon the local day/night cycle.
As another fun issue, I'll note that the Winter Solstice in Anchorage is 5 hours, 27 minutes, and 50 seconds, that is 13 hours and 54 minutes shorter than the June Solstice. That's almost like adjusting to Swing shits - which people don't do very well. As well, the sunrise and sunset times are different depending on the day. The earliest sunset in Anchorage this year was on December 16th, (3:40 PM) and the latest sunrise in on Tuesday december 26th, (10:15 AM) Neither of which are on the shortest day.
Most cures for Daylight savings time are worse than the problem of daylight savings time. If we try to finesse the whole thing, we either end up with a locally controlled mess, or pick a minute by minute difference - or finer - in microtime zones.
Good luck.
Gee, why not go on quadruple savings time then? You can have the sun out until 1AM!!
Because there are only 24 hours in a day Because that isn't the point of DST.
Or you could simply admit that DST is just a silly attempt at self-deception to get ourselves to do things earlier
No, it is an attempt to allow people to have daylight while they are doing work. This requires working within the fact that in most places, daylight is many hours longer in the summer than in the winter. During early spring before we move to DST, it is getting daylight at 4 AM. The concept that we're supposed to adapt to the local day night cycle of every place on earth just substitutes a much more complicated adjustment then thinking of timezones. I deal with East Coast to West Coast communication all the time. I don't call them before 11 AM my time, and they don't call me beyond 2 PM their time.
Now when tying the whole thing to daylight/darkness in each area, you have a real mess. Even in my case, there is a fair difference between say San Diego and Seattle.
I had an assistant who couldn't figure that stuff out. When I was on travel to the West coast, he would call me as soon as he got into work at 0730-0800. Nothing like getting woke up in the wee hours. Told him after the tenth time that unless it was an emergency and I had to make the decision, he would either have to make it or wait until 11 AM. Or find a different place to work. . If we want to do things in the sun after work, we need to go to work early and get out of work early. Lying to ourselves about the time is one of the most ridiculous ways imaginable to try to do this.
12 noon should be left as close as possible to true solar noon.
In future years, the idea that the government mandated that people lie to themselves about the time will seem as bizarre as the strangest medieval legal customs seem to us today.
So, what you're saying is that your employer doesn't realize that "4PM with daylight savings time" and "5PM with daylight savings time" are the exact same time?
I don't think "because people are complete and utter morons" is a good reason to keep doing DST.
Perhaps you are an apartment dweller who never sees the outside except during waiting for a bus or train. But there are a lot of us who have not only our jobs, but outside work to do as well. And those extra hours of daylight during the summer are a godsend.
Where I'm at, it is getting daylight at 4 AM in the summer. Pretty much hard to take advantage of that unless we shift it a little. Work is 8-5, so if I can have that extra daylight at a useful time, its all good. I'd take a 2 hour shift, but that's pushing what the people who don't have any need for DST will accept.
OR we could have everyone keep time on their phones and have the phones automatically change the time by a few seconds every day!
This is probably my greatest idea ever.
Please don't tell us any of your other ideas.
Hey - he's got a great newsletter. And T-Shirts!
I can come up with a lot of reasons it probably won't work very well.
But that isn't how this technology stuff works. Petrochemical internal combustion engines didn't rise form the sea, perfectly formed like Venus. An incredible difference between a huge hit and miss engine and say, my 4 cylinder Jeep Engine. Power, weight,maintenance all in favor of my not particularly notable engine otherwise. The old engine has torque and steampunk cool.
Any Slashdotters think we should have stopped improving IC engines at the Hit and Miss stage?
There are certain aspects of getting electrical power from those long ribbons of highway that make attempts to extract that potential pretty interesting.
Will this work? Probably not. But its certain that it won't work if it isn't built. It is their money.
Great. So I'm a local electronics store. I sell someone a laptop for .1 BTC. Fair deal. That transaction is queued for a few days. He wants to walk out of the store with the laptop today. Either the store takes a huge risk of fraud (or even mistake), or the user can't get what he buys for days. Which is why anyone who thinks this is a workable currency is a fucking idiot.
Which is why bitcoin isn't a real currency - it's like Gold, with the added liability that it is intrinsically worthless. But the same problem would occur if you tried to buy say, a million dollar house with a million dollars worth of gold. On what day.
This is just the money freaks finding the latest way to screw things up.
I expect chrome, and msie, to go the same way.
Then I expect them to take responsibility that https is 100 percent secure.
None -- but every child chooses Master of bubble wrap.
That would indeed be the most stressless career in the world.
That's actually a directorate level career?
I wonder how many children pick Master of bags, boxes and packing peanuts as their goal in life in their 5th grade career day.
Firefox has become overrun by nannies lately, and is now purposely breaking itself. I've dumped it for Chrome. Not that I'm wild about Chrome, but at least it hasn't become a malfunctioning mess. Say hi to Netscape for us when you reach your destination, Mozilla.
This is especially interesting in that this occured in a cult-like atmosphere, considered very difficult to get accusations out of victims at all, much less timely ones. Almost certain that this creep will spend the rest of his life in jail.
Justice delayed is justice denied. Which doesn't fit in your narrative.
Respectfully submitted from a part of the problem, Ol Olsoc.