We KNOW from this thing called SCIENCE that diet impacts the development of humans.
We who delve into science also know that there is a tremendous and pervasive amount of bullshit spread as science. Your silly atgument that this synthetic meat substange is too reisky because it might have a genetic effect on intellignec of progeny is right up theer with the Anti-vaxxers bullshit.
Enought saying, let's talk the science using the real science, not the 5000 years form now, people's peens might fall off stuff.
I'll happily eat it, because I'm not a fucking pseudoscientist like you. How evolution treats your kids? What?
That's the move the argument into an undefineable future. It borders on faith, where "I know, I cannot articulate that I know, but I'm going to accues you of jeapordizing your children because I can't be proven wrong - or right.
Start by explaining why eating the exact same compounds, in the exact same ratios, mysteriously causes illnesses and consequences for the evolution of your progeny. Go ahead. Whatever you do, don't use 'science', because it was wrong about something, or other.
Cold fusion didn't work, so synthetic meat can't either. Fusion is always 20 years away, so all food additives are bad for you and will make your children stupid.
I'll be he starts yapping about micronutrients and moment now.
The stuff is meat. It's grown as an analogue of regular meat, and about the only thing some might object with any rationality to is that it uses a preservative like Sodium Benzoate while in the vat. Objections to that approach anti-vaxxer territory however.
You eat it, we'll wait a few hundred years to see how evolution treats your kids. You never know, they could have the IQ of Socrates and be amazingly athletic. Then again, they could have the IQ and athleticism of a turnip. Why do we have to be your guinea pig?
Science says lots of things are good, and it's not always true. Perhaps try cracking some books and reading history on the subject.
I see. Are foods in use today not subject to the same issues? Food is food, and just because it is someon's definition of natural does not grant some ill defined health benefit. positive or negative.
People are whacked about food in many respects. While they go bat chit crazy about Genetically modified food, and in a ridiculous display of bafflegab, attempt to say that genetic modification is in no way equivalent to say, a evil scientist making a cauliflower that contains a lot of vitaman A is bad, while completely ignoring that the Lenape potato, produced quite naturally (by traditional cross breeding) that produced large amounts of solanine, a poison.
So far, about the oddest chemical in the process is Sodium Benzoate. a big bad scary chemical that is very scary, and is also used as a medicine. If it is too scary, scientists are looking for other bacteriostats and fungistats. As well, some cochineal might be used as a coloring agent.
And then, we have you, who have taken the cheap argument point, by issuing a dire and fearful story ofhow this synthetic meat is simply too risky to even attempt, because generations from now, it might turn our descendents into the citizens we saw in idiocracy. refer to my first statement.
When in fact, we have arrived there already, without benefit of any synthetic meat whatsoever.
So anyhow, seeing as how you think I am woefully uneducated on the subject, Why don't you reboot this conversation using all the big words in order to educate me - at least on the veracity of your expertise that enables you to understand my lack of it. Use the big words and obscure technical references, I promise to make a feeble attempt to follow. Looking forward to my education on the matter.
Yeah yeah look eco-authoritarian, when you harvest and clean all of the fruits and vegetables you eat, planting it and harvesting it with tools you made yourself, cooking and canning it over an open fire and wear it's skins while you gather nuts and berries, then come back and act all vegan on us.
That garbage works both ways. I did have the decency to fix your spelling error with "fire" too.
as far as hoses, I suppose it's hidden somewhere. since it's not for space walks and is just for sitting down basically while in flight to protect you if pressure drops or something.
But it does not have huge padded shoulders and epaulets! Cryst, a million sci-fi moves and television shows tell us that it has to have huge padded shoulders and epaulets!
Android's security model is more robust than iOS's. However, the issue is how things are curated. Apple is a brutal and capricious caretaker, while Google is reactive.
A reactive security model is more robust than a proactive one?
Especially one that doesn't notify the victims of the malware which apps are screwing their pooch.
Good luck with that. With process cheese not containing cheese,
Negative, there are specific standards that process chees has to adhere to specific composition. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... . From the page: These products tend to be classified as cheese food, "cheese spread", or "cheese product", depending on the amount of cheese, moisture, and milkfat present in the final product.
marshmallows not containing any marshmallow,
"Pâte de guimauve", the French confection that was originally made from the Marsh Mallow plant, was changed to a gelatin/sugar/starch mixture a long long time ago. And the fact that the marsh mallow roots once used have a medicinal connection, It probably would not be used for more than the also fact that we'd probably extinct the plant. It's a gorgeous plant, better looked at than eaten unless you are using it for medicine.
"beer" being rice brews,
Rice is one of the adjuncts that is sometimes used in brewing. Loke corn, and even wheat if you are a strict Reinheitsgebot adherent, there are a multitude of ingredients that make them completely acceptable to call beer.
and perhaps worst of all, "real mayonnaise" neither being real nor mayonnaise, I am fairly certain that this will be called meat.
Oh hell, which type of "real Mayonnaise" are you talking about? There are so many types made in so many countries and the recipe has changed over time just like everything else, and some of the changes are pretty helpful, like those to avoid botulism poisoning.
Which is why you go to a butcher when you want meat.
Yes, I go to the butchers at the moment. I process venison from relatives who hunt and share the results with them. I even eat vegan hamburgers made out of Fusarium venenatum. It's mycoprotein, naturally occurring and pretty darn good. That's all I require in my food, good taste, natural and organic if possible. But I'm not going to pretend that What is organo-trendy is the only good diet. And i'm suspecting that this synthetic meat can be processed organically.
And my last response is that I believe that this synthetic meat will advertise as such because a lot of people will want it.
I would imagine that they'll label it in some way just because I can't imagine vegetarians or vegans objecting to eating it. Otherwise if it's molecularly the same, who cares if it came from a factory where it was grown artificially or if some critter carried it around before having it shorn off.
I certainly agree, but we have a world full of anti-vaxxers, anti anything but unmanipulated original veggies, anti-science, and flat earthers.
I'm a dedicated omnivore (because it is the natural state of humans) but would be very happy to eat synthetic meat.
Imagine, we could eat rare animals, or hybrid meat. Some donations would be all that is needed. We wouldn't have to be worried about maltreatment of food animals, or alomst killing off an entire species of food. I'm pretty certain that the meat eventually can be grown completely organically.
side note 1 - much of the "organic" veggies grown are grown hydroponically. And it is organic, and often very good.
side note 2 - I'm a foodie, have been one as long as I've been on the earth. And I eat a lot of organic, so synthetic shamers will be laughed at.
But millennials and stuff don't you know.... they hate big-cow and big-chicken and big-pig and want clean organic vat meat. So you just stop it with your "labels" and your anti-vat meat anxiety because Bloomberg says that millennials have decided what they will and won't tolerate you eating.
Yeah yeah look traditionalists, when you harvest and skin all of the meat you eat, killing it with tools you made yourself, cooking it over an open firem and wear it's skins while you gather nuts and berries, then come back and act all paleolithic on us.
Can we please have some labelling laws so this thing can't be legally called "meat"?
There's enough problems with processed food already. Here we have a processed thing that did not even start from being food.
Oh - we have a person here who already knows this is bad. Seriously, it's awesome to have a person who doesn't need to know anything but knows everything.
The has been to minimize the human worker for 400 years. There's little evidence this time is different (but there is a little). New jobs replace the old ones, because people consume more, and have for 400 years.
Aside from the growing problem of a minimum IQ seemingly needed to be employable at all, there's no doubt people will keep wanting to consume more as their current consumption inevitably gets cheaper. There's always work that no one has yet discovered how to automate, and change isn't overnight. But that "all the remaining jobs require some smarts" problem is a bad one, I think.
Your IQ point is well taken. The following is getting a little off the main subject, but altogether too many people have been fed the line that "You can be anything that you wou want to be if you only try hard enough. Follow your passion.".
When in fact, actual passion is really rare. I'm infected with it, and truth be told, it can be pretty painful at times, when the obsession drives you hard.
I will never be a prima ballerina or a male nurse, and no one I know will ever be an NFL Center. And there are some people who are doing well to get their shoes tied in the morning. I'm a polymath, and only a few people can be that.
Here is a thought, regarding your consumption increases. It is obvious that to do such a thing, recycling will have to increase. We will definitely exhaust the most easily extractable raw materials. Maybe sorting out all of the different recycleable products can keep the lower ability people gainfully employed. Just a thought.
The precise definition really doesn't matter. Freedom of speech is a natural consequence of the fundamental principle of proportional response. Simply avoid escalating matters by answering speech with physical violence (including "legal" violence like jail, fines, etc.) and the rest will take care of itself.
Is murder of your opposition an expression of free speech? Keep in mind, his supporters expressed that they support the murder.
Would you have them be forbidden to report anything you don't want?
There's a huge gap between "X is doing something wrong" and "there oughta be a law". You bridged it, but not everyone thinks that way.
The issue with news is that it is impossible to be completely unbiased. There is so much news in the world, and reportage is time limited, so the mere act of picking what to post news about indicates whatever bias there might be.
So somoeone gets tired of say, The former President's birth certificate news, and another is pissed that they keep reporting on something the current one does, and somoene else is angry that new stories violence on blacks is reported, and another is pissed because they are putting out disparaging stories about the KKK and Neo Nazis and someone only wants happy news.
So maybe there shouldn't be any news.
Agreed that not everyone thinks like me, but I've been a problem solver all my life, so if someone complains, I look at it a a problem they would like solved.
and 55-65 jail / prison as your doctor (usa only) needs to be planned for as well.
Only if you didn't plan well.
Personal savings for retirement works pretty well, but it has a problem. Not enough people have the discipline to do it properly. Stuff is too tempting. Many of my Co-workers, who made less than me, were driving Escalades and HumVees around, and leased or bought a new one every couple years. Meanwhile, I kept my Jeeps for at least ten years.
They re-financed their houses several times, sometimes to buy that Escalade, sometimes to take their kids and kid's friends to DisneyWorld every summer. We took our son once.
I refied mine to get the lower interest, and sunk all the money back into the house.
Real Estate agents talked them into creative financing in order to buy as absolutely much house as possible, because you know, real Estate never goes down Oopsies! I fired two agents - one who insisted on showing us houses that were over what we said we'd pay, and the other who called me stupid for not playing the house poor game.
I paid the place off in 15 years. They are in their 60's and looking at ten more years.
This isn't even bragging, as when we were first married, the wife and I lived pretty frugally. Lived in a nice mobile home until I was in my mid 30's Before buying a house.Some of them are still paying off the credit card they bought their first total furniture suite on. Now I don't live frugally at all. But it just takes discipline.
Yes, yes, automation removes categories of jobs. But then it creates new categories.
There is a big flaw with this. When the effort is to minimize the human worker, then anyt effort that increases jobs is by definition a failure.
I'm willing to listen to ideas of how more peole are going to be employed than are employed before, but the best answers I get is that someone will be taking care of the robot, but more often "I don't know". So aside from saying that I am 100 percent wrong, what are your ideas of how we are going to work toward say 5 percent unemployment? What are people going to do?
BTW, don't get me wrong - this is happening,, and we cannot stop it. My personal guess is a lot of people are giong to die. I mean, we aren't supposed to support them, so we have to do something with them. Unemployed people looking at death anyhow tend to riot and kill, so we will have to figure something out.
The rest of your post falls of into "lizard people are secetly running the world" territory. No, most businesses have no interest in killing off their customers (Oracle, maybe).
It has nothing to do with lizard people. It is the natural concept of saving money. One of the major expenses of any business is salaries and benefits. And Wall Street typically rewards a company that has large layoffs most of the time. http://www.businessinsider.com...
Which is completely understandable. But like any other group, too much of having your own way is not good for you. Your customers are not killed, but many of them cannot afford to buy what you were making any more.
And as far as I can see, the US is already suffering a good bit of this.
Well, I do specifically blame the media. They are instilling a culture of fear. Have you watched your local news lately? Nothing but violence and death, with a happy story thrown in once a week.
Would you have them be forbidden to report anything you don't want?
I take issue with only one part of this post:
The best expert in the left wing structure of drosophila melanogaster has so refined their study that they tend to be almost infantile in all other aspects of life.
My experience has been that expertise is a skill, and it can be generalized. Becoming an expert in something doesn't narrow your ability to function in the world, it expands it.
Perhaps. Then my career was completely unnecessary because I was doing things for these people who could have done my work better than me.
Don't settle, if you're not happy then keep looking.
The issue is twofold. One, a person has to analyze why they might be unhappy. Some times it might be because of people or the situation, some times it might just be that they simply are never satisfied. I've seen a lot of that.
But one must also understand the actuarial tables. I have some friends who are 60 years old, and still job hopping, with no retirement options other than social security. Damn, that's brutal. All jobs, all careers have their moments. But these folks with sky-high levels of what they will accept are not going to like what awaits them in their dotage.
Between 25 and 35 the world is your oyster and the sky is the limit. From 35 to 45 fast living is catching up with the demands of family, you may have teenagers, and possibly overspent your credit cards. The mortgage on the house is feeling heavy. From 45 to 55 you settle into reality and just plough on, or reinvent yourself with a career change. From 55 to 65, your planning your exit strategy.
Or you can plan your retirement/exit strategy a whole lot earlier. I had three retirement accounts by my mid 20's.
I've seen altogether too many people use the plan you mentioned, and then suddenly at age 55, they start planning, often in a panic.
I retired at 55, while most people are only starting to think seriously about it. And can report that while I loved my career, retirement is sooooo much better.
One more every-day feature designed to heighten people's fear of something statistically very unlike to happen to them
Oh get over yourself. This doesn't make anyone scared, and it's not just for terrorist attacks.
Uh huh. Go without your phone for a week. I've watched especially young people blanch and panic when that last bar of their phone disappears while travelling. Even had one try to get me to change routes, because "What if someone in my family is hurt or dies while I am out of cell service?"
They got that out past the duct tape?
Silly person, Duct tape is for amateurs. Pros superglue their lips shut.
Jesus Christ, you're full of shit. Yes, those of us who leave our parents' basements from time to time have people that we care about. When those people are in the vicinity of violence or natural disaster, we worry about them. We can't all be autistic robots concerned only with the collection of waifu dolls donning our Cheeto-encrusted desks.
Or maybe he understands something. Once this feature is established, and people are addicted, imagine what is going to happen. Let's take a relatively benign disaster, a big blizzard that knocks down power lines over a large area. Your loved one can't check into Facebook because their cell phone towers have lost power, and the emergency batteries have gone flat. So while they may be perfectly safe, maybe a little chilly, but blankets and candles might just make for a fun evening with their SO, if you know what I mean.
Meanwhile, you are shitting your pants because you watched the news and they haven't checked into Facebook yet.
You think they are in a snowbank, dead as door nails, human popsicles while they are enjoying some sexy snuggling.
Safety culture, making us feel completely unsafe since forever.
Did you ever think that she was fine all along, and there was no crisis, and that you have been conditioned by the media to freak out? Why did your heart sink? You really, honestly, and truly thought that your friend had been killed?
This. Humans, especially the less intelligent ones, are only capable of thinking in a tribal fashion. They hear news from around the world, but they think of it as if it's local. That way a little girl who is kidnapped is mentally processed as Suzy frmo next door, or any other disaster is just like it happened in their own town. I don't specifically blame the media, but human tribalism, aided by safety culture's fear of everything.
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We KNOW from this thing called SCIENCE that diet impacts the development of humans.
We who delve into science also know that there is a tremendous and pervasive amount of bullshit spread as science. Your silly atgument that this synthetic meat substange is too reisky because it might have a genetic effect on intellignec of progeny is right up theer with the Anti-vaxxers bullshit.
Enought saying, let's talk the science using the real science, not the 5000 years form now, people's peens might fall off stuff.
I'll happily eat it, because I'm not a fucking pseudoscientist like you. How evolution treats your kids? What?
That's the move the argument into an undefineable future. It borders on faith, where "I know, I cannot articulate that I know, but I'm going to accues you of jeapordizing your children because I can't be proven wrong - or right.
Start by explaining why eating the exact same compounds, in the exact same ratios, mysteriously causes illnesses and consequences for the evolution of your progeny. Go ahead. Whatever you do, don't use 'science', because it was wrong about something, or other.
Cold fusion didn't work, so synthetic meat can't either. Fusion is always 20 years away, so all food additives are bad for you and will make your children stupid.
I'll be he starts yapping about micronutrients and moment now.
The stuff is meat. It's grown as an analogue of regular meat, and about the only thing some might object with any rationality to is that it uses a preservative like Sodium Benzoate while in the vat. Objections to that approach anti-vaxxer territory however.
You eat it, we'll wait a few hundred years to see how evolution treats your kids. You never know, they could have the IQ of Socrates and be amazingly athletic. Then again, they could have the IQ and athleticism of a turnip. Why do we have to be your guinea pig?
Science says lots of things are good, and it's not always true. Perhaps try cracking some books and reading history on the subject.
I see. Are foods in use today not subject to the same issues? Food is food, and just because it is someon's definition of natural does not grant some ill defined health benefit. positive or negative.
People are whacked about food in many respects. While they go bat chit crazy about Genetically modified food, and in a ridiculous display of bafflegab, attempt to say that genetic modification is in no way equivalent to say, a evil scientist making a cauliflower that contains a lot of vitaman A is bad, while completely ignoring that the Lenape potato, produced quite naturally (by traditional cross breeding) that produced large amounts of solanine, a poison.
So far, about the oddest chemical in the process is Sodium Benzoate. a big bad scary chemical that is very scary, and is also used as a medicine. If it is too scary, scientists are looking for other bacteriostats and fungistats. As well, some cochineal might be used as a coloring agent.
And then, we have you, who have taken the cheap argument point, by issuing a dire and fearful story ofhow this synthetic meat is simply too risky to even attempt, because generations from now, it might turn our descendents into the citizens we saw in idiocracy. refer to my first statement.
When in fact, we have arrived there already, without benefit of any synthetic meat whatsoever.
So anyhow, seeing as how you think I am woefully uneducated on the subject, Why don't you reboot this conversation using all the big words in order to educate me - at least on the veracity of your expertise that enables you to understand my lack of it. Use the big words and obscure technical references, I promise to make a feeble attempt to follow. Looking forward to my education on the matter.
Yeah yeah look eco-authoritarian, when you harvest and clean all of the fruits and vegetables you eat, planting it and harvesting it with tools you made yourself, cooking and canning it over an open fire and wear it's skins while you gather nuts and berries, then come back and act all vegan on us.
That garbage works both ways. I did have the decency to fix your spelling error with "fire" too.
Eco-authoritarian?
it's a flight suit.
not a space suit.
as far as hoses, I suppose it's hidden somewhere. since it's not for space walks and is just for sitting down basically while in flight to protect you if pressure drops or something.
But it does not have huge padded shoulders and epaulets! Cryst, a million sci-fi moves and television shows tell us that it has to have huge padded shoulders and epaulets!
Android's security model is more robust than iOS's. However, the issue is how things are curated. Apple is a brutal and capricious caretaker, while Google is reactive.
A reactive security model is more robust than a proactive one?
Especially one that doesn't notify the victims of the malware which apps are screwing their pooch.
Good luck with that. With process cheese not containing cheese,
Negative, there are specific standards that process chees has to adhere to specific composition. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... . From the page: These products tend to be classified as cheese food, "cheese spread", or "cheese product", depending on the amount of cheese, moisture, and milkfat present in the final product.
marshmallows not containing any marshmallow,
"Pâte de guimauve", the French confection that was originally made from the Marsh Mallow plant, was changed to a gelatin/sugar/starch mixture a long long time ago. And the fact that the marsh mallow roots once used have a medicinal connection, It probably would not be used for more than the also fact that we'd probably extinct the plant. It's a gorgeous plant, better looked at than eaten unless you are using it for medicine.
"beer" being rice brews,
Rice is one of the adjuncts that is sometimes used in brewing. Loke corn, and even wheat if you are a strict Reinheitsgebot adherent, there are a multitude of ingredients that make them completely acceptable to call beer.
and perhaps worst of all, "real mayonnaise" neither being real nor mayonnaise, I am fairly certain that this will be called meat.
Oh hell, which type of "real Mayonnaise" are you talking about? There are so many types made in so many countries and the recipe has changed over time just like everything else, and some of the changes are pretty helpful, like those to avoid botulism poisoning.
Which is why you go to a butcher when you want meat.
Yes, I go to the butchers at the moment. I process venison from relatives who hunt and share the results with them. I even eat vegan hamburgers made out of Fusarium venenatum. It's mycoprotein, naturally occurring and pretty darn good. That's all I require in my food, good taste, natural and organic if possible. But I'm not going to pretend that What is organo-trendy is the only good diet. And i'm suspecting that this synthetic meat can be processed organically.
And my last response is that I believe that this synthetic meat will advertise as such because a lot of people will want it.
I would imagine that they'll label it in some way just because I can't imagine vegetarians or vegans objecting to eating it. Otherwise if it's molecularly the same, who cares if it came from a factory where it was grown artificially or if some critter carried it around before having it shorn off.
I certainly agree, but we have a world full of anti-vaxxers, anti anything but unmanipulated original veggies, anti-science, and flat earthers.
I'm a dedicated omnivore (because it is the natural state of humans) but would be very happy to eat synthetic meat.
Imagine, we could eat rare animals, or hybrid meat. Some donations would be all that is needed. We wouldn't have to be worried about maltreatment of food animals, or alomst killing off an entire species of food. I'm pretty certain that the meat eventually can be grown completely organically.
side note 1 - much of the "organic" veggies grown are grown hydroponically. And it is organic, and often very good.
side note 2 - I'm a foodie, have been one as long as I've been on the earth. And I eat a lot of organic, so synthetic shamers will be laughed at.
But millennials and stuff don't you know.... they hate big-cow and big-chicken and big-pig and want clean organic vat meat. So you just stop it with your "labels" and your anti-vat meat anxiety because Bloomberg says that millennials have decided what they will and won't tolerate you eating.
Yeah yeah look traditionalists, when you harvest and skin all of the meat you eat, killing it with tools you made yourself, cooking it over an open firem and wear it's skins while you gather nuts and berries, then come back and act all paleolithic on us.
Can we please have some labelling laws so this thing can't be legally called "meat"?
There's enough problems with processed food already. Here we have a processed thing that did not even start from being food.
Oh - we have a person here who already knows this is bad. Seriously, it's awesome to have a person who doesn't need to know anything but knows everything.
The has been to minimize the human worker for 400 years. There's little evidence this time is different (but there is a little). New jobs replace the old ones, because people consume more, and have for 400 years.
Aside from the growing problem of a minimum IQ seemingly needed to be employable at all, there's no doubt people will keep wanting to consume more as their current consumption inevitably gets cheaper. There's always work that no one has yet discovered how to automate, and change isn't overnight. But that "all the remaining jobs require some smarts" problem is a bad one, I think.
Your IQ point is well taken. The following is getting a little off the main subject, but altogether too many people have been fed the line that "You can be anything that you wou want to be if you only try hard enough. Follow your passion.".
When in fact, actual passion is really rare. I'm infected with it, and truth be told, it can be pretty painful at times, when the obsession drives you hard.
I will never be a prima ballerina or a male nurse, and no one I know will ever be an NFL Center. And there are some people who are doing well to get their shoes tied in the morning. I'm a polymath, and only a few people can be that.
Here is a thought, regarding your consumption increases. It is obvious that to do such a thing, recycling will have to increase. We will definitely exhaust the most easily extractable raw materials. Maybe sorting out all of the different recycleable products can keep the lower ability people gainfully employed. Just a thought.
Define freedom of speech.
The precise definition really doesn't matter. Freedom of speech is a natural consequence of the fundamental principle of proportional response. Simply avoid escalating matters by answering speech with physical violence (including "legal" violence like jail, fines, etc.) and the rest will take care of itself.
Is murder of your opposition an expression of free speech? Keep in mind, his supporters expressed that they support the murder.
Nope, just videos of hacked forklifts chasing down and forking the boss and the rest of the board.
Ah, so you see the good in everything. 8^)
Would you have them be forbidden to report anything you don't want?
There's a huge gap between "X is doing something wrong" and "there oughta be a law". You bridged it, but not everyone thinks that way.
The issue with news is that it is impossible to be completely unbiased. There is so much news in the world, and reportage is time limited, so the mere act of picking what to post news about indicates whatever bias there might be.
So somoeone gets tired of say, The former President's birth certificate news, and another is pissed that they keep reporting on something the current one does, and somoene else is angry that new stories violence on blacks is reported, and another is pissed because they are putting out disparaging stories about the KKK and Neo Nazis and someone only wants happy news.
So maybe there shouldn't be any news.
Agreed that not everyone thinks like me, but I've been a problem solver all my life, so if someone complains, I look at it a a problem they would like solved.
and 55-65 jail / prison as your doctor (usa only) needs to be planned for as well.
Only if you didn't plan well.
Personal savings for retirement works pretty well, but it has a problem. Not enough people have the discipline to do it properly. Stuff is too tempting. Many of my Co-workers, who made less than me, were driving Escalades and HumVees around, and leased or bought a new one every couple years. Meanwhile, I kept my Jeeps for at least ten years.
They re-financed their houses several times, sometimes to buy that Escalade, sometimes to take their kids and kid's friends to DisneyWorld every summer. We took our son once.
I refied mine to get the lower interest, and sunk all the money back into the house.
Real Estate agents talked them into creative financing in order to buy as absolutely much house as possible, because you know, real Estate never goes down Oopsies! I fired two agents - one who insisted on showing us houses that were over what we said we'd pay, and the other who called me stupid for not playing the house poor game.
I paid the place off in 15 years. They are in their 60's and looking at ten more years.
This isn't even bragging, as when we were first married, the wife and I lived pretty frugally. Lived in a nice mobile home until I was in my mid 30's Before buying a house.Some of them are still paying off the credit card they bought their first total furniture suite on. Now I don't live frugally at all. But it just takes discipline.
Which most people simply do not have.
Yes, yes, automation removes categories of jobs. But then it creates new categories.
There is a big flaw with this. When the effort is to minimize the human worker, then anyt effort that increases jobs is by definition a failure.
I'm willing to listen to ideas of how more peole are going to be employed than are employed before, but the best answers I get is that someone will be taking care of the robot, but more often "I don't know". So aside from saying that I am 100 percent wrong, what are your ideas of how we are going to work toward say 5 percent unemployment? What are people going to do?
BTW, don't get me wrong - this is happening,, and we cannot stop it. My personal guess is a lot of people are giong to die. I mean, we aren't supposed to support them, so we have to do something with them. Unemployed people looking at death anyhow tend to riot and kill, so we will have to figure something out.
This means no more videos of careless workers taking down entire racks of expensive vodka!
The rest of your post falls of into "lizard people are secetly running the world" territory. No, most businesses have no interest in killing off their customers (Oracle, maybe).
It has nothing to do with lizard people. It is the natural concept of saving money. One of the major expenses of any business is salaries and benefits. And Wall Street typically rewards a company that has large layoffs most of the time. http://www.businessinsider.com...
Which is completely understandable. But like any other group, too much of having your own way is not good for you. Your customers are not killed, but many of them cannot afford to buy what you were making any more.
And as far as I can see, the US is already suffering a good bit of this.
Well, I do specifically blame the media. They are instilling a culture of fear. Have you watched your local news lately? Nothing but violence and death, with a happy story thrown in once a week.
Would you have them be forbidden to report anything you don't want?
I take issue with only one part of this post: The best expert in the left wing structure of drosophila melanogaster has so refined their study that they tend to be almost infantile in all other aspects of life. My experience has been that expertise is a skill, and it can be generalized. Becoming an expert in something doesn't narrow your ability to function in the world, it expands it.
Perhaps. Then my career was completely unnecessary because I was doing things for these people who could have done my work better than me.
Don't settle, if you're not happy then keep looking.
The issue is twofold. One, a person has to analyze why they might be unhappy. Some times it might be because of people or the situation, some times it might just be that they simply are never satisfied. I've seen a lot of that.
But one must also understand the actuarial tables. I have some friends who are 60 years old, and still job hopping, with no retirement options other than social security. Damn, that's brutal. All jobs, all careers have their moments. But these folks with sky-high levels of what they will accept are not going to like what awaits them in their dotage.
Between 25 and 35 the world is your oyster and the sky is the limit. From 35 to 45 fast living is catching up with the demands of family, you may have teenagers, and possibly overspent your credit cards. The mortgage on the house is feeling heavy. From 45 to 55 you settle into reality and just plough on, or reinvent yourself with a career change. From 55 to 65, your planning your exit strategy.
Or you can plan your retirement/exit strategy a whole lot earlier. I had three retirement accounts by my mid 20's.
I've seen altogether too many people use the plan you mentioned, and then suddenly at age 55, they start planning, often in a panic.
I retired at 55, while most people are only starting to think seriously about it. And can report that while I loved my career, retirement is sooooo much better.
One more every-day feature designed to heighten people's fear of something statistically very unlike to happen to them
Oh get over yourself. This doesn't make anyone scared, and it's not just for terrorist attacks.
Uh huh. Go without your phone for a week. I've watched especially young people blanch and panic when that last bar of their phone disappears while travelling. Even had one try to get me to change routes, because "What if someone in my family is hurt or dies while I am out of cell service?"
They got that out past the duct tape?
Silly person, Duct tape is for amateurs. Pros superglue their lips shut.
Jesus Christ, you're full of shit. Yes, those of us who leave our parents' basements from time to time have people that we care about. When those people are in the vicinity of violence or natural disaster, we worry about them. We can't all be autistic robots concerned only with the collection of waifu dolls donning our Cheeto-encrusted desks.
Or maybe he understands something. Once this feature is established, and people are addicted, imagine what is going to happen. Let's take a relatively benign disaster, a big blizzard that knocks down power lines over a large area. Your loved one can't check into Facebook because their cell phone towers have lost power, and the emergency batteries have gone flat. So while they may be perfectly safe, maybe a little chilly, but blankets and candles might just make for a fun evening with their SO, if you know what I mean.
Meanwhile, you are shitting your pants because you watched the news and they haven't checked into Facebook yet.
You think they are in a snowbank, dead as door nails, human popsicles while they are enjoying some sexy snuggling.
Safety culture, making us feel completely unsafe since forever.
Did you ever think that she was fine all along, and there was no crisis, and that you have been conditioned by the media to freak out? Why did your heart sink? You really, honestly, and truly thought that your friend had been killed?
This. Humans, especially the less intelligent ones, are only capable of thinking in a tribal fashion. They hear news from around the world, but they think of it as if it's local. That way a little girl who is kidnapped is mentally processed as Suzy frmo next door, or any other disaster is just like it happened in their own town. I don't specifically blame the media, but human tribalism, aided by safety culture's fear of everything.