Well, their business is exactly collecting as much data on you as they can
So far, so good...
then selling it and making money.
Oh, and you were doing so well.
Google doesn't "sell" their data about you. That data, that's their golden goose. If they sell it, they've got nothing. No, what they sell is you. Or rather, your eyeballs and attention.
People go to Google and say "Show my ad to enough people to earn me 100,000 additional sales". Google uses its data about you to determine whether you're likely to respond to that ad, then based on that it decides whether to show it to you. It's able to do this because of all the data it holds about you - but if it sold that data directly, then anyone else would be able to horn in on their market.
We are going to see China send all of its trolls here to speak against it and tell us how China is done wonders for the world.
Come on Caffeinated Bacon/Crimson Tsunami. Make your masters PROUD.
Don't forget the But 'MURRICA! Squad. China can be harvesting prisoners organs, but 'Murrica something, something!
Without disassembling the device there's really no way to tell. The best you can do is check if the case has a hole that looks suspiciously like a microphone hole, but that's going to be pretty error prone. It's still easy to put a mic somewhere that doesn't have an obvious hole, or have what looks like a mic hole that doesn't actually have a mic mounted.
Ohh, ohh, ohh..... I haz idea. Once you find a microphone, simply remove it from the device, then attach some wires to when the mic was, send audio to it, and start letting them listen to say, porn movie audio, or Meg Ryan's orgasm voice from "When Harry met Sally, or maybe Doctor Strangelove soundbytes. Possibly even RickRoll them.
There's a lesson here for the folks who say that speed kills. When you're forced to drive across wide open spaces at a mind numbing speed, you end up with people falling asleep. You're much better off allowing them to go at a pace that is fast enough to force them to pay attention. Note that this pace will vary based upon everything from the amount of traffic and weather, to the abilities of the vehicle and driver. Triple digit speeds on the Autobahn aren't crazy, they make perfect sense, but you also have to require (and enforce) slow traffic keeping right and signalling your intentions./soapbox
The problem I have found is that many drivers have a hyperinflated assesment of their reflexes, and ability to drive. This is not unlike the invincibility and immortality of teenage boys. At 110 mph, a speed many people think they are just fine at - things happen very very quickly. Then there is animals, and those people yuo don't like who only go the speed limit are always getting in your way. You better have professional racer reflexes when one pulls in front of you going the speed limit while you are sensibly driving whatever you think is the right speed.
What I have seen is two things. One is that whatever speed the traffic is moving at, the so called better drivers want to go a lot faster. so we get an arms race. Ever increasing speeds. Have you ever been inside a jet going near or over the speed of sound? Looking at the land below, it looks like you are crawling. Its all relative.
The second thing is that maybe you have a finely tuned reflex system, perhaps you could be a F1 Racer. But it really isn't about you - it's about the poor lesser schmedlocks who are getting in your way. Or that truck lumbering up the hill you are on. Unless you have some way to get them off the highway, we're stuck with them.
p.s. I've been over 150 mph on my motorcycleon the roadways and leaning just above the knee in the corners. I used to drag race nitromethane bikes. Things happen so damn quick that a momentary lapse in concentration will probably kill you. I've scared the crap out of myself a few times. We should probably keep speed limits to 70-80 mph. That's the limits of most people's ability.
so I wonder how many other google products have hidden microphones??? what about their mesh router?
Well, their business is exactly collecting as much data on you as they can, then selling it and making money. Care to hazard a guess? They're getting surveillance data on you that would make Microsoft blush.
Is how many other devices have clandestine microphones unbeknownst to the owners?
Yes
How can you trust anything from any of these tech companies. They all spy on you.
No and yes.
Unless you disassemble and inspect an IoT personal spying device, You must assume it has both a microphone and camera. Because it probably does. This Nest example pretty must rests my case. If it is possible to listen, they will listen
there's a list floating around, with all the dns names for facebooks servers. I just blackhole the entire set.
facebook, doesn't exist, as far as DNS is concerned.
As long as they don't keep adding more. But both that and script blocking is good.
NoScript and DNS blocking both together sounds ideal, but if I had to pick just one, I'd keep NoScript.
Most of the networks I'm on, someone else will have already cached the DNS lookups in the router anyway - the lookups aren't going to Google every time. The potential for detailed tracking there is a lot less than with a script having free reign to do whatever it wants.
Exactly. Scripts are the child from hell. It's not only that they are tracking you, they can execute, and does anyone know one of the most compelling reasons behind ever increasing data caps for smartphones? you got it. My favorite personal anecdote from earlier times was when I downloaded a 40 Kbyte or so pdf file, and ended up downloading 40 megabytes worth of.....scripts mostly. There were many times I blew through my cap in a couple days back in the day.
Today if I have to use my smartphone for the internet, I tether it to my laptop, which is battened down pretty hard.
So Stone is an innocent patriots because of Enron. I am beginning to understand you y'all think.
Nope. There's no claim of innocence, only a long history of a prosecutor abusing power and using parallel construction to create a crime. Perhaps you should be asking how he managed to keep his law license.
My suspicion is by money passing hands enabled Stone to keep his license, or engaging with others who are Russian sympathisers or affected by kompromat. That is all.
It's funny that you say that.
I've done a fair bit of web-dev stuff over the years on the side. From a friends website (well, all of us, our file and game host) to concrete construction companies.
One thing I have noticed is a lot of web-developers are just as retarded as some of the clients who want websites made.
No wonder so many sites are trivial to hack.
I say "web-developers" very loosely though. Self-claimed web-developers who copy-pasted bits and pieces from Stackoverflow and the like until a website was done.
Exactly. I've done some websites as a learning experience, and then comparing them to "professional" done sites, I'm shocked, and not in a good way. Copy and paste is exactly what they are. What is exceptionally amazing is that these masters of html still can't produce a site that looks good on desktop and mobile.
But yeah, it seems that there are a lot of web developers who are not terribly adroit. I mean K. Ryste - he had to have some idea of what was in those scripts he was putting on his site. Ach, maybe he dosn't know what whois or wireshark is.
Obviously the solution here is automatic fuel injection. And by fuel, I mean caffeine; and by injection, I mean hypodermic.
I like that. In addition, a supply of Atomic Fireball cinnamon candy will keep you wide awake. Getting logey? Boom, when you hit that cinnamon layer it's all synapses go!
The Model 3 actually has an internal camera pointed at the driver, but it's not in use yet. There are also questions about what the car should do if it does decide you are asleep - stopping in the middle of the road like Tesla does may not be the best option.
Maybe a vibrating seat kind of like the rumble strips here in the US that tell you if you are crossing the center line or off to the right? I guess that be the left for you Brits. 8^)
Or on trains in the Australian outback that traverse hundreds of straight miles, they have a button you have to press every so often or the train stops. But geesh, boredom that you are forced to stay awake for to experience every minute. I'd just as soon drive as endure enforced nothingness.
For what it is worth, I take "Atomic Fireballs" cinnamon candy on long drives. If I start getting drowsy while driving, I just pop one of those into my mouth. No way will I fall asleep. 10-15 minutes of intense cinnamon goodness wakes you right up.
I have google-analytics.com set to Untrusted in NoScript. Privacy Badger blocks the whole domain by default. I suspect Firefox's tracking protection also blocks it.
This post gets extra irony points given Slashdot uses Google Analytics.
Did you ever go through and see just what all bullshit is being stopped by those two? Yikes!
I'm in a discussion with a person on a different board who was wanting to stop FB tracking. I told him to install a scriptblocker.
Next thing, another guy barges in saying I was talking bullshit - all you need to do is empty your cookies. Said he was a web developer, and got hysterical when I disagreed.
I guess he must have some reason for people to run all the scripts.
Assuming we still have spysats, we'll detect some issues at the reactor sites like hydrogen kabooms, then a lot of denial that there is a problem, then radiation detectors will start going off around the world. They'll refuse to acknowlege ther is any problem for weeks after they turn their shorline site into an uninhabitble mess, and we'll have more dead heros
so exactly like fukushima
Sadly, probably eaxctly what will happen. The stations are along the shoreline, and there is a learning curve when dealing with that energy genie that want's out of it's bottle. These will be their own reactors, with their own problems, and their own technicians, so I'm calling no less then two kaboom events.
You wrote: "Remember when it was just the religious right that was anti-science?
It never was just the religious right.
Occasionally the kooks on the left and right align. Another example is the sex negative feminists and the religious right uniting on porn. The right thinks it's a tool of Satan, and the sex negative feminists think it demeans women.
Reading the article, these people are also tending to alternative medicine, some of which works...
Alternative medicine that works is called... wait for it... ready... Medicine!
True, although not always used in mainstream meds. Arnica MOntana is great for muscle sprains and strains, but it has that homeopathy stigma (actually it isn't homeopathy because it's a tincture of the flowers of the arnica daisy, and does numbe the area very well. Smells good too, like new mown hay.
Then there is aconite patches. Some of my mother in law's students brought that over from China after I had broken my ankle and torn the ligaments in the same som years back. I'm allergic to opioids, and was in a lot of pain. The aconite patches tingled at first, then the pain went away for the rest of the day.
So some of this stuff that works hasn't entered mainstram medicine.
You're intentionally overcomplicating things. It's pretty damn simple. If they repair OR continue selling new units of the original item, they must sell their repair parts. If they don't sell repair parts anymore, they don't get to sell or repair anymore either. Third parties are also allowed to make parts if they're capable of doing so, and the manufacturer can't add systems to lock out third party repair shops. No overproduction is required. You act as if businesses (A) don't already produce extra parts and (B) can't predict how much product will be needed for repairs over time based on existing order data.
You just said what I said, only you say it's simple. Perhaps you should get involved with electronic equipment design and support - they are looking for people like you. A lot pf people now think it's pretty difficult, especially when their IC's disappear.
Either this 'study' is deeply flawed, or it's actually the product of the Russian trolls it speaks of, since this makes precisely zero sense, someone not vaccinating their kids against common diseases is among the obvious definitions of 'unintelligent'. Don't really give a damn what anyone thinks of what I just said, either, so don't bother.
It seems dreadfully flawed to me. And seems to make an assumption that education and money equal smartness.
And it warmer down south than it is in the winter.
The anti-vaxx movement is merely another target to hate, like antifa or smokers or Hillary's emails or Trump's whatever. Pick your target.
Now I don't really care if anti-vaxxers decide to re-enact Jonestown, but I do have sympathy for their children, as well as for immunocompromised children who are at risk because of the loss of herd immunity.
This ain't right. Every study undertaken since that asshole Wakefield joined in a lie along with a lawyer to get wealthy from jury sympathy for people with autistic children has shown no relationship between autism and vaccines.
And outbreaks and death follow every episode of vaccine hesitancy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
But there we have apparently affluent mommy with her sign "My Child, My Choice". Okay - at some point, you lose your choice.
Kid had all of her limbs partially amputated due to meningococcus.
If I was her, the second I attained the age of majority, I would set out to use every legal means available to systematically, slowly, and completely destroy my parents, and I would enjoy aand publicise ever event of their ongoing destruction.
This is a pattern that I recognized. There's a class of people that are smarter than the US average, yet still rather stupid and arrogantly over-confident from an actually smart point of view.
E.g. Randall Munroe of xkcd or Ricky Gervais are famous examples.
They simply LOOK and ACT smart, but they aren't really that smart. They're just not utter and complete morons.
This should be at +5 pronto.
Reading the article, these people are also tending to alternative medicine, some of which works, but the majority not. Might as well try tapping or crystal resonances.
But to AC's insightful and informative post. An education does not equal intelligence or smarts. Many college courses are based on giving your opinion, not on actually learning anything. That's how in the US, a Philosophy graduate is considered vastly superior to a master machinist, although there are a lot of dumb philosophy majors, and the next stupid master machinist I meet will be my first.
The US at least has turned edumacation and grades into a birthright, while people really haven't become smarter.
Anyhow, the anti-vaxxers appear to be women of their conviction. They should accept criminal responsibility if their children die of some easily preventable disease.
Because people like to force other people to have what they think is right.
In this case, what is right is what is sustainable. We must use ~30% less of the planet's resources yearly and reduce carbon emissions dramatically in order to go forward as a species. The Right to Repair is a massive part of that.
There are a couple problems though. The concept of right to repair also has an implicit technology freeze within it. It's in the details. I don't know if you have ever been involved in design work, but parts come and go at an astonishing rate. You don't just spec a part, look up and buy, you have to investigate how long that part is available. Parts suppliers try to help, passing along info on EOL components, but most designers have horror stories about how a ready to to go to production device was screwed by a manufacturer that suddenly stopped making some of the IC's.
Right to repair doesn't happen without some level of technology freeze, and it has to start at the manufacturers. Because we can't repair last year's model at all if the chips are suddenly unobtainium.
we
The problem can be somewhat mitigated by buying a lot of spares - but then there's that landfill problem again. And if we use those spares until they are all gone, we have a problem of nothing to them with.
My point in all of this is that in this day and age, its really not a simple issue at all.
Anyone want to guess what will happen when they have an accident?
Assuming we still have spysats, we'll detect some issues at the reactor sites like hydrogen kabooms, then a lot of denial that there is a problem, then radiation detectors will start going off around the world. They'll refuse to acknowlege ther is any problem for weeks after they turn their shorline site into an uninhabitble mess, and we'll have more dead heros
Then SlashDot nook-ya-ler apologists will start another round of "no true reactor" comments and call anyone who doesn't agree with them, idiots.
And I expect their nuclear hygiene will be at least as good as their oceanic plastic dumping. So I predict a perfect track record - never an accident, never a problem.
I'll be here munching on popcorn though.
Slashdot Mirror
So far, so good...
Oh, and you were doing so well.
Google doesn't "sell" their data about you. That data, that's their golden goose. If they sell it, they've got nothing. No, what they sell is you. Or rather, your eyeballs and attention.
People go to Google and say "Show my ad to enough people to earn me 100,000 additional sales". Google uses its data about you to determine whether you're likely to respond to that ad, then based on that it decides whether to show it to you. It's able to do this because of all the data it holds about you - but if it sold that data directly, then anyone else would be able to horn in on their market.
Funny, that's what I call selling my data
We are going to see China send all of its trolls here to speak against it and tell us how China is done wonders for the world. Come on Caffeinated Bacon/Crimson Tsunami. Make your masters PROUD.
Don't forget the But 'MURRICA! Squad. China can be harvesting prisoners organs, but 'Murrica something, something!
Without disassembling the device there's really no way to tell. The best you can do is check if the case has a hole that looks suspiciously like a microphone hole, but that's going to be pretty error prone. It's still easy to put a mic somewhere that doesn't have an obvious hole, or have what looks like a mic hole that doesn't actually have a mic mounted.
Ohh, ohh, ohh..... I haz idea. Once you find a microphone, simply remove it from the device, then attach some wires to when the mic was, send audio to it, and start letting them listen to say, porn movie audio, or Meg Ryan's orgasm voice from "When Harry met Sally, or maybe Doctor Strangelove soundbytes. Possibly even RickRoll them.
Or better yet, send them commercials.
There's a lesson here for the folks who say that speed kills. When you're forced to drive across wide open spaces at a mind numbing speed, you end up with people falling asleep. You're much better off allowing them to go at a pace that is fast enough to force them to pay attention. Note that this pace will vary based upon everything from the amount of traffic and weather, to the abilities of the vehicle and driver. Triple digit speeds on the Autobahn aren't crazy, they make perfect sense, but you also have to require (and enforce) slow traffic keeping right and signalling your intentions. /soapbox
The problem I have found is that many drivers have a hyperinflated assesment of their reflexes, and ability to drive. This is not unlike the invincibility and immortality of teenage boys. At 110 mph, a speed many people think they are just fine at - things happen very very quickly. Then there is animals, and those people yuo don't like who only go the speed limit are always getting in your way. You better have professional racer reflexes when one pulls in front of you going the speed limit while you are sensibly driving whatever you think is the right speed.
What I have seen is two things. One is that whatever speed the traffic is moving at, the so called better drivers want to go a lot faster. so we get an arms race. Ever increasing speeds. Have you ever been inside a jet going near or over the speed of sound? Looking at the land below, it looks like you are crawling. Its all relative.
The second thing is that maybe you have a finely tuned reflex system, perhaps you could be a F1 Racer. But it really isn't about you - it's about the poor lesser schmedlocks who are getting in your way. Or that truck lumbering up the hill you are on. Unless you have some way to get them off the highway, we're stuck with them.
p.s. I've been over 150 mph on my motorcycleon the roadways and leaning just above the knee in the corners. I used to drag race nitromethane bikes. Things happen so damn quick that a momentary lapse in concentration will probably kill you. I've scared the crap out of myself a few times. We should probably keep speed limits to 70-80 mph. That's the limits of most people's ability.
so I wonder how many other google products have hidden microphones??? what about their mesh router?
Well, their business is exactly collecting as much data on you as they can, then selling it and making money. Care to hazard a guess? They're getting surveillance data on you that would make Microsoft blush.
Is how many other devices have clandestine microphones unbeknownst to the owners?
Yes
How can you trust anything from any of these tech companies. They all spy on you.
No and yes.
Unless you disassemble and inspect an IoT personal spying device, You must assume it has both a microphone and camera. Because it probably does. This Nest example pretty must rests my case. If it is possible to listen, they will listen
there's a list floating around, with all the dns names for facebooks servers. I just blackhole the entire set. facebook, doesn't exist, as far as DNS is concerned.
As long as they don't keep adding more. But both that and script blocking is good.
Aconite is well-known to modern medicine. Given it's toxicity, it's not used for medicinal purposes in the West.
Yes, the therapeutic dose is not far from the toxic dose. But using the patches, it becomes pretty difficult to poison yourself.
Bear in mind, for myself, almost any amount of opioids are toxic. This represents a real problem for me with long term pain management.
I suppose there is always the 45 caliber pain killer if it gets to be too much. That one always works.
NoScript and DNS blocking both together sounds ideal, but if I had to pick just one, I'd keep NoScript. Most of the networks I'm on, someone else will have already cached the DNS lookups in the router anyway - the lookups aren't going to Google every time. The potential for detailed tracking there is a lot less than with a script having free reign to do whatever it wants.
Exactly. Scripts are the child from hell. It's not only that they are tracking you, they can execute, and does anyone know one of the most compelling reasons behind ever increasing data caps for smartphones? you got it. My favorite personal anecdote from earlier times was when I downloaded a 40 Kbyte or so pdf file, and ended up downloading 40 megabytes worth of.....scripts mostly. There were many times I blew through my cap in a couple days back in the day.
Today if I have to use my smartphone for the internet, I tether it to my laptop, which is battened down pretty hard.
So Stone is an innocent patriots because of Enron. I am beginning to understand you y'all think.
Nope. There's no claim of innocence, only a long history of a prosecutor abusing power and using parallel construction to create a crime. Perhaps you should be asking how he managed to keep his law license.
My suspicion is by money passing hands enabled Stone to keep his license, or engaging with others who are Russian sympathisers or affected by kompromat. That is all.
It's funny that you say that. I've done a fair bit of web-dev stuff over the years on the side. From a friends website (well, all of us, our file and game host) to concrete construction companies. One thing I have noticed is a lot of web-developers are just as retarded as some of the clients who want websites made. No wonder so many sites are trivial to hack.
I say "web-developers" very loosely though. Self-claimed web-developers who copy-pasted bits and pieces from Stackoverflow and the like until a website was done.
Exactly. I've done some websites as a learning experience, and then comparing them to "professional" done sites, I'm shocked, and not in a good way. Copy and paste is exactly what they are. What is exceptionally amazing is that these masters of html still can't produce a site that looks good on desktop and mobile.
But yeah, it seems that there are a lot of web developers who are not terribly adroit. I mean K. Ryste - he had to have some idea of what was in those scripts he was putting on his site. Ach, maybe he dosn't know what whois or wireshark is.
Obviously the solution here is automatic fuel injection. And by fuel, I mean caffeine; and by injection, I mean hypodermic.
I like that. In addition, a supply of Atomic Fireball cinnamon candy will keep you wide awake. Getting logey? Boom, when you hit that cinnamon layer it's all synapses go!
The Model 3 actually has an internal camera pointed at the driver, but it's not in use yet. There are also questions about what the car should do if it does decide you are asleep - stopping in the middle of the road like Tesla does may not be the best option.
Maybe a vibrating seat kind of like the rumble strips here in the US that tell you if you are crossing the center line or off to the right? I guess that be the left for you Brits. 8^)
Or on trains in the Australian outback that traverse hundreds of straight miles, they have a button you have to press every so often or the train stops. But geesh, boredom that you are forced to stay awake for to experience every minute. I'd just as soon drive as endure enforced nothingness.
For what it is worth, I take "Atomic Fireballs" cinnamon candy on long drives. If I start getting drowsy while driving, I just pop one of those into my mouth. No way will I fall asleep. 10-15 minutes of intense cinnamon goodness wakes you right up.
Let's hope they have studied the the Fukupshima NPP and learned something.
They are very protective of their citizenry https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
This is one reason why Communism terrifies me.
n It is true. The individual is given the status of an ant. A disposable utility device.
The USA is quite popular to bash. But we've never had an ideology based famine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
That is really all you need to understand communism.
For the purists out there, all pure ism's are doomed to fail. They mutate into some nasty forms.
I have google-analytics.com set to Untrusted in NoScript. Privacy Badger blocks the whole domain by default. I suspect Firefox's tracking protection also blocks it. This post gets extra irony points given Slashdot uses Google Analytics.
Did you ever go through and see just what all bullshit is being stopped by those two? Yikes!
I'm in a discussion with a person on a different board who was wanting to stop FB tracking. I told him to install a scriptblocker.
Next thing, another guy barges in saying I was talking bullshit - all you need to do is empty your cookies. Said he was a web developer, and got hysterical when I disagreed.
I guess he must have some reason for people to run all the scripts.
Assuming we still have spysats, we'll detect some issues at the reactor sites like hydrogen kabooms, then a lot of denial that there is a problem, then radiation detectors will start going off around the world. They'll refuse to acknowlege ther is any problem for weeks after they turn their shorline site into an uninhabitble mess, and we'll have more dead heros
so exactly like fukushima
Sadly, probably eaxctly what will happen. The stations are along the shoreline, and there is a learning curve when dealing with that energy genie that want's out of it's bottle. These will be their own reactors, with their own problems, and their own technicians, so I'm calling no less then two kaboom events.
Thank you. I wasn't sure I got my own point.
You wrote: "Remember when it was just the religious right that was anti-science?
It never was just the religious right.
Occasionally the kooks on the left and right align. Another example is the sex negative feminists and the religious right uniting on porn. The right thinks it's a tool of Satan, and the sex negative feminists think it demeans women.
But they are all still kooks.
Reading the article, these people are also tending to alternative medicine, some of which works...
Alternative medicine that works is called... wait for it... ready... Medicine!
True, although not always used in mainstream meds. Arnica MOntana is great for muscle sprains and strains, but it has that homeopathy stigma (actually it isn't homeopathy because it's a tincture of the flowers of the arnica daisy, and does numbe the area very well. Smells good too, like new mown hay.
Then there is aconite patches. Some of my mother in law's students brought that over from China after I had broken my ankle and torn the ligaments in the same som years back. I'm allergic to opioids, and was in a lot of pain. The aconite patches tingled at first, then the pain went away for the rest of the day.
So some of this stuff that works hasn't entered mainstram medicine.
You're intentionally overcomplicating things. It's pretty damn simple. If they repair OR continue selling new units of the original item, they must sell their repair parts. If they don't sell repair parts anymore, they don't get to sell or repair anymore either. Third parties are also allowed to make parts if they're capable of doing so, and the manufacturer can't add systems to lock out third party repair shops. No overproduction is required. You act as if businesses (A) don't already produce extra parts and (B) can't predict how much product will be needed for repairs over time based on existing order data.
You just said what I said, only you say it's simple. Perhaps you should get involved with electronic equipment design and support - they are looking for people like you. A lot pf people now think it's pretty difficult, especially when their IC's disappear.
Remember when it was just the religious right that was anti-science?
Umm, no I don't. It's been long known that the distribution of anti-vaxxers was a pretty equal mix of Conservative and Liberal.
Different reasons, but equally stupid reasons.
Stupidity knows no political affiliation.
Either this 'study' is deeply flawed, or it's actually the product of the Russian trolls it speaks of, since this makes precisely zero sense, someone not vaccinating their kids against common diseases is among the obvious definitions of 'unintelligent'. Don't really give a damn what anyone thinks of what I just said, either, so don't bother.
It seems dreadfully flawed to me. And seems to make an assumption that education and money equal smartness.
And it warmer down south than it is in the winter.
The anti-vaxx movement is merely another target to hate, like antifa or smokers or Hillary's emails or Trump's whatever. Pick your target.
Now I don't really care if anti-vaxxers decide to re-enact Jonestown, but I do have sympathy for their children, as well as for immunocompromised children who are at risk because of the loss of herd immunity.
This ain't right. Every study undertaken since that asshole Wakefield joined in a lie along with a lawyer to get wealthy from jury sympathy for people with autistic children has shown no relationship between autism and vaccines.
And outbreaks and death follow every episode of vaccine hesitancy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... But there we have apparently affluent mommy with her sign "My Child, My Choice". Okay - at some point, you lose your choice.
I'd like to point out this little girl https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Kid had all of her limbs partially amputated due to meningococcus.
If I was her, the second I attained the age of majority, I would set out to use every legal means available to systematically, slowly, and completely destroy my parents, and I would enjoy aand publicise ever event of their ongoing destruction.
This is a pattern that I recognized. There's a class of people that are smarter than the US average, yet still rather stupid and arrogantly over-confident from an actually smart point of view.
E.g. Randall Munroe of xkcd or Ricky Gervais are famous examples.
They simply LOOK and ACT smart, but they aren't really that smart. They're just not utter and complete morons.
This should be at +5 pronto.
Reading the article, these people are also tending to alternative medicine, some of which works, but the majority not. Might as well try tapping or crystal resonances.
But to AC's insightful and informative post. An education does not equal intelligence or smarts. Many college courses are based on giving your opinion, not on actually learning anything. That's how in the US, a Philosophy graduate is considered vastly superior to a master machinist, although there are a lot of dumb philosophy majors, and the next stupid master machinist I meet will be my first.
The US at least has turned edumacation and grades into a birthright, while people really haven't become smarter.
Anyhow, the anti-vaxxers appear to be women of their conviction. They should accept criminal responsibility if their children die of some easily preventable disease.
Because people like to force other people to have what they think is right.
In this case, what is right is what is sustainable. We must use ~30% less of the planet's resources yearly and reduce carbon emissions dramatically in order to go forward as a species. The Right to Repair is a massive part of that.
There are a couple problems though. The concept of right to repair also has an implicit technology freeze within it. It's in the details. I don't know if you have ever been involved in design work, but parts come and go at an astonishing rate. You don't just spec a part, look up and buy, you have to investigate how long that part is available. Parts suppliers try to help, passing along info on EOL components, but most designers have horror stories about how a ready to to go to production device was screwed by a manufacturer that suddenly stopped making some of the IC's.
Right to repair doesn't happen without some level of technology freeze, and it has to start at the manufacturers. Because we can't repair last year's model at all if the chips are suddenly unobtainium.
we The problem can be somewhat mitigated by buying a lot of spares - but then there's that landfill problem again. And if we use those spares until they are all gone, we have a problem of nothing to them with.
My point in all of this is that in this day and age, its really not a simple issue at all.
Anyone want to guess what will happen when they have an accident?
Assuming we still have spysats, we'll detect some issues at the reactor sites like hydrogen kabooms, then a lot of denial that there is a problem, then radiation detectors will start going off around the world. They'll refuse to acknowlege ther is any problem for weeks after they turn their shorline site into an uninhabitble mess, and we'll have more dead heros
Then SlashDot nook-ya-ler apologists will start another round of "no true reactor" comments and call anyone who doesn't agree with them, idiots.
Nuclear power can be safe. Humans cannot.
Let's hope they have studied the the Fukupshima NPP and learned something.
They are very protective of their citizenry https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
And I expect their nuclear hygiene will be at least as good as their oceanic plastic dumping. So I predict a perfect track record - never an accident, never a problem. I'll be here munching on popcorn though.