Heh... I wish I had stakes in such a company - but alas... Notice I did not include a company name nor URL, which I would have if I was advertising. No I just wanted to mention that you actually in my opinion have a sound idea about space usage and that someone else has thought like you and has attempted to implement the idea...
The severe weather thing I believe you might be right about for the wheeled parking lot units I saw.
Unencrypted HTTP connections create a privacy vulnerability and expose potentially sensitive information about users of unencrypted Federal websites and services."
Look at http://www.ambri.com/technolog... American made. Cheap and effective. You do actually have some pretty smart people over there and they already have the solutions you need. The TED talk is here http://www.ted.com/talks/donal... I believe you might find that you are indeed at a most opportune moment in time for making a shift to renewable power and making a huge difference environmentally speaking
You can even buy those solar roofs for car parking lots and they are on wheels for your convenience. Read about the concept some time ago so your idea is very sound indeed and can be sprung into action the moment after placing your order. Go talk to your mall owners if they don't have the doe get an agreement that you supply the pabels. They buy the power. Both parties win. They get renewable and can advertise they are a responsible company and you provide a service to society by making the environment cleaner and you'll make money doing it. Opportunity awaits those who act and imagine going to sleep at night knowing in your heart you have made a difference and that you are one who acts proactively rather than just reacts to whatever happens. Kudos to you and your thinking!
What are you waiting for. This is your opportunity to completely transform your state and become energy independent leading the way for a greener and cleaner America and even a chance to make a buck og two in the process by selling off your excess power production... Talk to people in your neighbourhood pool your resources that way you don't need to wait for incompetent politicians working for the lobbyists or greedy power companies out to take your rightful chance to make an earning from you. Best of luck you don't just have a window of opportunity... you have the barn door open right now!
How different is this from the childish and immature attempts if the Indian government to attempt censoring the BBC documentary just a few days ago on a world wide scale. Truth is that so called governments in many so called democratic countries are scared beyond comprehension and are feverishly trying to put the genie that the internet is back into the bottle for the internet allows the public to expose the lies and manipulations they engage in on a global scale instantly to billions at the time. All free people if South Africa must stand up to this sort of censorship as must the rest of the world. For it is through free open and uncensored communication we can win back the freedom that these types are trying to pry from us under different guises. I wish you find the courage to send this proposal back into the landfill of oppression from where it was dug up and dismiss the types that have come up with the proposal from their job. For they have forgotten that it is you they serve and not the other way around!
I say. It seems India is taking a step down the road to nothing less than media dictatorship of the entire world in what will be a futile and embarrasing attempt at hampering free speech. Could someone please step up and tell these Indian politicians grow up and own up to the problems that clearly seem to exist rather than trying to sweep em under the rug
It is so funny to see these Goliaths scream for access yo markets and for free markets and then attempt to play the cold war russian economic planning game attempting to control content etc... the movie studios / music studios are a joke not to have open licensing without borders people are willing to pay a fair price for the same content not differing prices for differing content and calling people pirates and criminalizing them when they are using a paid service that the movie companies are actually earning money from is an insult to logic and actually shows a total lack of seriousness on their part... no net neutrality and a forced global market that is what should be pulled over their heads as a response to this behaviour.
Where did this guy go to school... the old Scandinavian language was Norse you even have remnants of it in english streetnames etc..... and people speaking and writing Faroese or Icelandic will still today to a wide extent be able to read and understand Norse.... English as a world language in the Scandinavian and other Nordic countries has by no means suppleanted any of the languages spoken there...
Wear wool, turn off heating... yeah I know you mentioned wanting heat but think of the free cooling for your electronics that you'd get at the same time... and why is your south facing rooftop not plastered with solar panels already ? I live in an apartment complex (in Europe) and I basically have not been using ambient heat radiators for a year and a half and did not even have to put on the woollen jammies yet. I am guessing your question is more of the rhetorical kind to enlighten fellow slashdotters. On a side note the multiple times I've been in china and in rural areas wool was the solution indoors with room temperatures nearing waters freezing point by a few degrees. People need to get out of their comfort zone. A lot can be done by installing multi layer gold coated thermo glazing in your windows. Wall isolation etc. Look at experimental, zero and even plus energy housing all over Europe. The biggest hurdle against independance is legislation brought on by the energy lobby to curtail initiatives and you see that happening all over the world. Be creative but most of all fight idiotic legislation such as area laws that demand red clay rooftop tiling because you need to fit in with the rest of the "useful idiots" and other laws that curtail freedom and innovative ideas that would keep you from implementing power saving ideas.
Security by obscurity - just one more way to hide what you are doing...
Truth be told, how can the citizenry accept a committee refusing senate ordes and FOIA requests ?
Is it not time to stand up and demand fully transparent government, is it not time perhaps to put an end to more than 4 years in office.
Is it not time to implement perhaps something like a meritocratic process for the elected to ensure our western governments are not run by nincompoops only looking out for themselves and in politics for the sake of power and money, why on earth would you want to keep secret how elections are being held. It is only by open scrutiny and failsafe mechanisms one can ensure free and open elections.
Do we not send observers out in the world to ensure we see free open elections taking place, do we not criticize when we do not see such open and free elections.
What is the difference between looking at abstract code and a human being looking at how counting is being done manually.... zero !!!
In fact having humans peruse the code is comparable to having observers observe an election to make sure the code performs the task properly.
Just like our government seem to like to spy on their people, following their every sms, their every phone conversation, their every email, their every opinion, perhaps it is time for the people to "spy" on their government by having responsible politicians put into effect completely open voting systems and laws opening up every aspect of government and demand complete insight into the electoral process going on inside the voting machines.
One could perhaps even consider a lottery where people are selected for for civil service for a period of some years and placed in a non refusable position at some time in your life, age naturally with a guarantee of ability to continue in jobs etc. after ended service.
This way you will eliminate the"livelihood politicians" i.e. those who have chosen politics as their livelihood, some even jumping perhaps from party to party, from "belief to belief" according to public opinion just to be able to cling on to a well paid seat in parliament or elsewhere in the system.
The same should be done for the civil servants so as to ensure we not in reality are governed by a group of civil servants while the elected perform democratic theater thinking they are in control.
The task of any politicians and the political system as a whole should be to ensure that the citizens are free to live their lives as unrestricted as possible, to create a society that allows the individual as much freedom as possible to live life in a way of that individuals choosing. To create the framework where within jobs can be created by the productive citizens of a country.
The western democracies need a complete reboot so that the slide towards secret corporate run governments can be averted. We need to free government from undue influence from all power structures other that the citizens themselves.
This refusal is a prime example why it is time to wake up and take action before it is to late !!!
I hope this is not a question of learning using Open hardware and then going all Gosh this is clever... Yeah - I'll patent this so nobody else can utilize this improvement of the open technology unless they pay me, so what if I have sucked everything out of the freely available tech available to me.... is that the idea ?
I seriously hope not and I also seriously hope he won't be selling this revolutionary patent out to some of the 3D trolls trying to patent everything 3D printwise and thus be part of stifling an industry still in it's birth... particularly as a user of open technology and someone who had learned using open technology I would seriously consider where to put my allegiances.
Or perhaps he's pulling a Makerbot and deviating from the Open Philosophy... after all there is some brand affiliation it seems.
3D Print Developers need to put everything in the open describe every crazy idea they have about 3D printing to prevent the trolls... and now apparently also the kids from preventing 3D becoming what it has potential to be.
A liberating technology breaking down the geolocated production monopolies, allowing each and every one of us to be our own creative geniouses unbound of the corporate stranglehold silly nilly trade agreements and IP shenanigans.
@Thomas Suarez - If you're following the talk about your apparent technology, we'd like to see actual patent submissions so we can see if there's prior art to save you from a lot of trouble down the road and pricey laywer fees.
Also it would be interesting to hear your take on Open Technology Development and 3D printing for instance.
I surely hope I am misreading your intentions when you are pushing for a patent and trust you will be doing the right thing and participate in the open and free development of 3D printing technology - That is the way to win friends and influence people;)
Best of luck with your endeavors!
Hmmm...
Did anyone just say why don't we use this opportunity of reliance upon centralized power and the weakness thereof to get rid of the energy cartels and rely on decentralized power instead, thus making our nations stronger, more independent and resilient to both attacks and natural disasters ?
Just food for thought on a day that Solar Power just got greener and not to mention cheaper http://www.geek.com/science/se...
The fact that power companies are being "attacked" is old news - The right path to take in the light of these "attacks" is one of energy self reliance.
That means "self powering" each building and furthermore securing such installations from infograbbing / controlling entities looking out for their own profits with no real concern for your needs or finances.
This is a world wide problem, utilities are running scared and the politicians in their pocket are following their pied piper. Keep pressing on for being able to create your own power. If the utilities won't let you plug in. Screw em and invest in battery back up, companies are already scrambling to make affordable, benign battery power http://www.ted.com/talks/donald_sadoway_the_missing_link_to_renewable_energy.html the sooner you let the power utilities depending on power drawn from old fermented dinosaurs or power created with other environmental deadly pollutants as a result like nuclear die the better. Keep adapting alternate power generation technology, not only will you be free from the utilities and save a lot of money freeing up your personal resources. Unfortunately governments all over the world are in cahoots with the utilities so do not expect any help from them. This is a battle you as an individual will have to take upon yourself to win. Educate yourself in how you can save, personally I have been able to cut my electricity consumption 22% by doing simple things like cutting off vampire loads, remembering to turn off lights when not around etc. without in any way having less comfort at home or making "sacrifice" and I have not even yet started investing in energy harvesting nor A+ or better household things like dishwasher, fridge/freezer, washing machine etc. stopped using the dryer in the previous billing cycle, that saved a bundle as well but is not counted in this round, but energy harvesting and buying less power consuming equipment is next on the list. I wish all of you the best of luck in the search for cheaper and cleaner energy free from the power monopolies of the utilities. Don't buy into the lie that you are using the utilities as a backup battery, they are benefiting from your production, they are actually able to use less energy to produce load for the grid etc. and actually able to earn money from your production to anyone claiming something else I will in the holiday spirit offer a "bah humbug", and if they won't let you plug in, find alternate ways to store and utilize your energy. Don't let the utilities win. Let them go the way of the dinosaurs, you do not need them. Learn and live free!
I'd be happy to help anyone with excessive cash flow problems and can point to a project with an actual product you could get for the money, a product that would be delivered and invoiced within the fiscal year and an opportunity for your company at the same time to boost their corporate CSR and promise it would be a worthy FOSS project you'd support and one that needs your support.
Any amount received would go to pay for programmers to work on applications and or hardware according to project needs.
But if you are representing a serious entity, feel free to contact me through my personal website - Scammers please stay away, I have had enough fun with fighting against cyber criminals trying to twarth the efforts by destroying sites involved and thus using up precious time that should have been used for development instead funneled into cleanup operations etc.
Though I would like a multitude of posters be quite suspicious to anyone just offering money as this has happened more than just once.
So Microsoft then company that wants to block any other operating system from running on computers by introducing their "safe" boot system.
The same company claiming patents and is in my opinion blackmailing/extorting Linux companies, graciously want to let you sell your code through their APP store.... so that you can save them from going under.... pleeeeeeeeease!
Somebody hurry and call the doctor I have this funny rippling effect going all through my body accompanied by odd abrupt sounds and I can't seem to get off the floor upon which I am rolling.
The BeetleJuice Law Firm on behalf of AngryBeetle Inc. today launched a patent infringement suit against MIT.
Their statement reads:
It might be very well that MIT has developed something clever, but this is clearly an infringement of AngryBeetle Inc.'s patented water production method.
The fact that you can help millions of people is irrelevant - we want our cash now!....
AngryBeetle Inc. and BeetleJuice Law Partners - have not been available for any further comments.
Thanks to Alex for inspiration;)
Given humanity is again advanced to a reasonable technical level a simple illustration aka this one from my children's fairy tale could work.
http://einarpetersen.com/doku.php?id=fiordlings_imageexample
Naturally a more stylistic approach with regards to what is drawn light source / a looking glass effect drawing, the media etc. but I'd think something like that should do it, maybe throw in a few 0 and 1's / images or whatever information is recognisable so that an experimenter would recognise artefacts...
Well just a thought - after all the human creature is one with imagination so whatever we'd try someone ought to be able to figure it out...
Slashdot Mirror
Agreed cheap is relative - I suppose they mean cheap as it is supposedly based on abundant earth materials rather than rare earth materials...
Heh... I wish I had stakes in such a company - but alas... Notice I did not include a company name nor URL, which I would have if I was advertising. No I just wanted to mention that you actually in my opinion have a sound idea about space usage and that someone else has thought like you and has attempted to implement the idea... The severe weather thing I believe you might be right about for the wheeled parking lot units I saw.
Sorry that's just too rich put into a larger perspective... hope people get the irony
Unencrypted HTTP connections create a privacy vulnerability and expose potentially sensitive information about users of unencrypted Federal websites and services."
Look at http://www.ambri.com/technolog... American made. Cheap and effective. You do actually have some pretty smart people over there and they already have the solutions you need. The TED talk is here http://www.ted.com/talks/donal... I believe you might find that you are indeed at a most opportune moment in time for making a shift to renewable power and making a huge difference environmentally speaking
You can even buy those solar roofs for car parking lots and they are on wheels for your convenience. Read about the concept some time ago so your idea is very sound indeed and can be sprung into action the moment after placing your order. Go talk to your mall owners if they don't have the doe get an agreement that you supply the pabels. They buy the power. Both parties win. They get renewable and can advertise they are a responsible company and you provide a service to society by making the environment cleaner and you'll make money doing it. Opportunity awaits those who act and imagine going to sleep at night knowing in your heart you have made a difference and that you are one who acts proactively rather than just reacts to whatever happens. Kudos to you and your thinking!
What are you waiting for. This is your opportunity to completely transform your state and become energy independent leading the way for a greener and cleaner America and even a chance to make a buck og two in the process by selling off your excess power production... Talk to people in your neighbourhood pool your resources that way you don't need to wait for incompetent politicians working for the lobbyists or greedy power companies out to take your rightful chance to make an earning from you. Best of luck you don't just have a window of opportunity... you have the barn door open right now!
Yeah because there has been no talk of censoring the internet in the free world in any way whatsoever for the last few months...
How different is this from the childish and immature attempts if the Indian government to attempt censoring the BBC documentary just a few days ago on a world wide scale. Truth is that so called governments in many so called democratic countries are scared beyond comprehension and are feverishly trying to put the genie that the internet is back into the bottle for the internet allows the public to expose the lies and manipulations they engage in on a global scale instantly to billions at the time. All free people if South Africa must stand up to this sort of censorship as must the rest of the world. For it is through free open and uncensored communication we can win back the freedom that these types are trying to pry from us under different guises. I wish you find the courage to send this proposal back into the landfill of oppression from where it was dug up and dismiss the types that have come up with the proposal from their job. For they have forgotten that it is you they serve and not the other way around!
I say. It seems India is taking a step down the road to nothing less than media dictatorship of the entire world in what will be a futile and embarrasing attempt at hampering free speech. Could someone please step up and tell these Indian politicians grow up and own up to the problems that clearly seem to exist rather than trying to sweep em under the rug
It is so funny to see these Goliaths scream for access yo markets and for free markets and then attempt to play the cold war russian economic planning game attempting to control content etc... the movie studios / music studios are a joke not to have open licensing without borders people are willing to pay a fair price for the same content not differing prices for differing content and calling people pirates and criminalizing them when they are using a paid service that the movie companies are actually earning money from is an insult to logic and actually shows a total lack of seriousness on their part... no net neutrality and a forced global market that is what should be pulled over their heads as a response to this behaviour.
Weird.... feel free to delete anonymous doublepost hate this mobile interface
Where did this guy go to school... the old Scandinavian language was Norse you even have remnants of it in english streetnames etc..... and people speaking and writing Faroese or Icelandic will still today to a wide extent be able to read and understand Norse.... English as a world language in the Scandinavian and other Nordic countries has by no means suppleanted any of the languages spoken there...
Wear wool, turn off heating... yeah I know you mentioned wanting heat but think of the free cooling for your electronics that you'd get at the same time... and why is your south facing rooftop not plastered with solar panels already ? I live in an apartment complex (in Europe) and I basically have not been using ambient heat radiators for a year and a half and did not even have to put on the woollen jammies yet. I am guessing your question is more of the rhetorical kind to enlighten fellow slashdotters. On a side note the multiple times I've been in china and in rural areas wool was the solution indoors with room temperatures nearing waters freezing point by a few degrees. People need to get out of their comfort zone. A lot can be done by installing multi layer gold coated thermo glazing in your windows. Wall isolation etc. Look at experimental, zero and even plus energy housing all over Europe. The biggest hurdle against independance is legislation brought on by the energy lobby to curtail initiatives and you see that happening all over the world. Be creative but most of all fight idiotic legislation such as area laws that demand red clay rooftop tiling because you need to fit in with the rest of the "useful idiots" and other laws that curtail freedom and innovative ideas that would keep you from implementing power saving ideas.
Security by obscurity - just one more way to hide what you are doing... Truth be told, how can the citizenry accept a committee refusing senate ordes and FOIA requests ? Is it not time to stand up and demand fully transparent government, is it not time perhaps to put an end to more than 4 years in office. Is it not time to implement perhaps something like a meritocratic process for the elected to ensure our western governments are not run by nincompoops only looking out for themselves and in politics for the sake of power and money, why on earth would you want to keep secret how elections are being held. It is only by open scrutiny and failsafe mechanisms one can ensure free and open elections. Do we not send observers out in the world to ensure we see free open elections taking place, do we not criticize when we do not see such open and free elections. What is the difference between looking at abstract code and a human being looking at how counting is being done manually.... zero !!! In fact having humans peruse the code is comparable to having observers observe an election to make sure the code performs the task properly. Just like our government seem to like to spy on their people, following their every sms, their every phone conversation, their every email, their every opinion, perhaps it is time for the people to "spy" on their government by having responsible politicians put into effect completely open voting systems and laws opening up every aspect of government and demand complete insight into the electoral process going on inside the voting machines. One could perhaps even consider a lottery where people are selected for for civil service for a period of some years and placed in a non refusable position at some time in your life, age naturally with a guarantee of ability to continue in jobs etc. after ended service. This way you will eliminate the"livelihood politicians" i.e. those who have chosen politics as their livelihood, some even jumping perhaps from party to party, from "belief to belief" according to public opinion just to be able to cling on to a well paid seat in parliament or elsewhere in the system. The same should be done for the civil servants so as to ensure we not in reality are governed by a group of civil servants while the elected perform democratic theater thinking they are in control. The task of any politicians and the political system as a whole should be to ensure that the citizens are free to live their lives as unrestricted as possible, to create a society that allows the individual as much freedom as possible to live life in a way of that individuals choosing. To create the framework where within jobs can be created by the productive citizens of a country. The western democracies need a complete reboot so that the slide towards secret corporate run governments can be averted. We need to free government from undue influence from all power structures other that the citizens themselves. This refusal is a prime example why it is time to wake up and take action before it is to late !!!
I hope this is not a question of learning using Open hardware and then going all Gosh this is clever... Yeah - I'll patent this so nobody else can utilize this improvement of the open technology unless they pay me, so what if I have sucked everything out of the freely available tech available to me.... is that the idea ? I seriously hope not and I also seriously hope he won't be selling this revolutionary patent out to some of the 3D trolls trying to patent everything 3D printwise and thus be part of stifling an industry still in it's birth... particularly as a user of open technology and someone who had learned using open technology I would seriously consider where to put my allegiances. Or perhaps he's pulling a Makerbot and deviating from the Open Philosophy... after all there is some brand affiliation it seems. 3D Print Developers need to put everything in the open describe every crazy idea they have about 3D printing to prevent the trolls... and now apparently also the kids from preventing 3D becoming what it has potential to be. A liberating technology breaking down the geolocated production monopolies, allowing each and every one of us to be our own creative geniouses unbound of the corporate stranglehold silly nilly trade agreements and IP shenanigans. @Thomas Suarez - If you're following the talk about your apparent technology, we'd like to see actual patent submissions so we can see if there's prior art to save you from a lot of trouble down the road and pricey laywer fees. Also it would be interesting to hear your take on Open Technology Development and 3D printing for instance. I surely hope I am misreading your intentions when you are pushing for a patent and trust you will be doing the right thing and participate in the open and free development of 3D printing technology - That is the way to win friends and influence people ;)
Best of luck with your endeavors!
Hmmm... Did anyone just say why don't we use this opportunity of reliance upon centralized power and the weakness thereof to get rid of the energy cartels and rely on decentralized power instead, thus making our nations stronger, more independent and resilient to both attacks and natural disasters ? Just food for thought on a day that Solar Power just got greener and not to mention cheaper http://www.geek.com/science/se... The fact that power companies are being "attacked" is old news - The right path to take in the light of these "attacks" is one of energy self reliance. That means "self powering" each building and furthermore securing such installations from infograbbing / controlling entities looking out for their own profits with no real concern for your needs or finances.
This is a world wide problem, utilities are running scared and the politicians in their pocket are following their pied piper. Keep pressing on for being able to create your own power. If the utilities won't let you plug in. Screw em and invest in battery back up, companies are already scrambling to make affordable, benign battery power http://www.ted.com/talks/donald_sadoway_the_missing_link_to_renewable_energy.html the sooner you let the power utilities depending on power drawn from old fermented dinosaurs or power created with other environmental deadly pollutants as a result like nuclear die the better. Keep adapting alternate power generation technology, not only will you be free from the utilities and save a lot of money freeing up your personal resources. Unfortunately governments all over the world are in cahoots with the utilities so do not expect any help from them. This is a battle you as an individual will have to take upon yourself to win. Educate yourself in how you can save, personally I have been able to cut my electricity consumption 22% by doing simple things like cutting off vampire loads, remembering to turn off lights when not around etc. without in any way having less comfort at home or making "sacrifice" and I have not even yet started investing in energy harvesting nor A+ or better household things like dishwasher, fridge/freezer, washing machine etc. stopped using the dryer in the previous billing cycle, that saved a bundle as well but is not counted in this round, but energy harvesting and buying less power consuming equipment is next on the list. I wish all of you the best of luck in the search for cheaper and cleaner energy free from the power monopolies of the utilities. Don't buy into the lie that you are using the utilities as a backup battery, they are benefiting from your production, they are actually able to use less energy to produce load for the grid etc. and actually able to earn money from your production to anyone claiming something else I will in the holiday spirit offer a "bah humbug", and if they won't let you plug in, find alternate ways to store and utilize your energy. Don't let the utilities win. Let them go the way of the dinosaurs, you do not need them. Learn and live free!
I'd be happy to help anyone with excessive cash flow problems and can point to a project with an actual product you could get for the money, a product that would be delivered and invoiced within the fiscal year and an opportunity for your company at the same time to boost their corporate CSR and promise it would be a worthy FOSS project you'd support and one that needs your support. Any amount received would go to pay for programmers to work on applications and or hardware according to project needs. But if you are representing a serious entity, feel free to contact me through my personal website - Scammers please stay away, I have had enough fun with fighting against cyber criminals trying to twarth the efforts by destroying sites involved and thus using up precious time that should have been used for development instead funneled into cleanup operations etc. Though I would like a multitude of posters be quite suspicious to anyone just offering money as this has happened more than just once.
Sorry for the spelling mistake, should have been "the company" - I found it hard to hit the correct keys while typing... ;)
So Microsoft then company that wants to block any other operating system from running on computers by introducing their "safe" boot system. The same company claiming patents and is in my opinion blackmailing/extorting Linux companies, graciously want to let you sell your code through their APP store.... so that you can save them from going under.... pleeeeeeeeease! Somebody hurry and call the doctor I have this funny rippling effect going all through my body accompanied by odd abrupt sounds and I can't seem to get off the floor upon which I am rolling.
.... something the size of a human skull?
Just imagine how many people this could help!
Too bad you posted that like an Anonymous Coward - Too funny! You just made my day :)
Germany declares Tor illegal?
I guess they miss the times of good old STASI Time for STASI 2.0 - It's a beautiful new frontier!
The BeetleJuice Law Firm on behalf of AngryBeetle Inc. today launched a patent infringement suit against MIT. Their statement reads: It might be very well that MIT has developed something clever, but this is clearly an infringement of AngryBeetle Inc.'s patented water production method. The fact that you can help millions of people is irrelevant - we want our cash now!.... AngryBeetle Inc. and BeetleJuice Law Partners - have not been available for any further comments. Thanks to Alex for inspiration ;)
Given humanity is again advanced to a reasonable technical level a simple illustration aka this one from my children's fairy tale could work. http://einarpetersen.com/doku.php?id=fiordlings_imageexample Naturally a more stylistic approach with regards to what is drawn light source / a looking glass effect drawing, the media etc. but I'd think something like that should do it, maybe throw in a few 0 and 1's / images or whatever information is recognisable so that an experimenter would recognise artefacts ...
Well just a thought - after all the human creature is one with imagination so whatever we'd try someone ought to be able to figure it out...