At a webhosting company you'd have to think about more than just the hardware costs between Mainframe and commodity PCs. You'd need to consider:
Talent pool
Unless you happen to have TSO/ISPF MVS/JCL experts on staff, you'll need a different kind of expert. And these are usually saddled with years of experience, salary history, families needing benefits, etc. Any High School outside of California (I hate CA's educational system) can give you PC techs. Running Linux is the easy part; z/OS is the mystery.
Per-instance capacity
On a single box you can cheaply put 80 GB, 1 GB RAM, and a AMD 2200 processor that will be underutilized like mad except for that one day/. points its pulsar beam your direction. Are you going to give each Virtual Linux server its own 80GB space? 1 GB RAM? How do you explain that, "of course the virtserv is at 100% use without any running services, power is allocated when its needed" without getting hung up on?
Capacity planning
Sure, one Mainframe can run many virtservs, but what happens when you have one more box than the Mainframe can handle -- buy a whole new second mainframe with all the space, power, cooling, safety infrastructure and personnel maintenance requirements for that one $99/mo additional sale? Gee, throwing yet another $400 commodity PC on a rack sure sounds good right about now...
I'd love to see a webhost go z/OS with Linux servers. But one other problem is most of the successful webhosters offer their customers the choice of Windows, too. A commodity PC can be Linux, BSD or Windows relatively easily (Ghost). I haven't heard about Windows on z/OS quite yet...not even under Linux on a s/390.
[DISCLAIMER: this is not a troll; I am a liberal].
Wrong on two accounts. First, a true "liberal" nevers calls herself that -- she is "independent" or "centerist". Second, the best trolls are "liberals" -- for proof I offer:
Barbara Striesand
Michael Moore
PETA
All the wannabe politico actors taking the liberal wh^H^Hline bandwagon.
Just for clarity, I am only responding to the contributor's writeup here on Slashdot. I know nothing of the producers (never watched SouthPark) or the actual piece. The sense of glee and "wow -- someone willing to stick it to our Gubment" elicited my reaction.
also love comedy sticking it to our current government
How refreshing! It is so hard to find a comedic medium willing to "stick it" to "our current governement." What an artistic risk!
(sarcasm, of course.)
Truly, could anything be more formulaic than a punkish slam at out Government? I don't care what you think of "our government" -- there is no lack in this overrun category. In web terms, a plot line attacking GWB is like a website in 1998 having "Pamela Anderson" in the META tags. Lame.
That explains the last presentation you gave...I have my notes here somewhere...ah. Here:
[
Rough translation from German...]
Great to be here and away from the oppressive Bush regime that threatens world peace espoused by good Germans and... (*notices Americans in the room*) [English] and of course I'm just kidding -- 4 more years!
Visions of their deep positions in Microsoft, Yahoo, eBay, and Amazon slowly devaluing... But that has to do with the company and the product (the product being sharply focused Internet services that work brilliantly) not the stock offering.
Is it a bad idea to disallow all but console password entry and require, instead, ssh level 2 keys for access? Or some kind of biometeric or other PAM-able requirement inaddition to passwords?
My new iBook (12", 512MB, 1GHz) has annoying long battery life. Annoying because I wanted to calibrate it last night and fell asleep trying to run the battery out. After running system update I let it reboot and then left it alone as I drifted into sleep; it had 30% power left. When I awoke this morning it was in sleep mode with 27% power on waking from its sleep. An hour and a half later I finally drained the battery after running the CD player and using the system with Air Port engaged...
I gave up trying to use something other than Windows on my Dell Inspiron 5150. It had 6 hours of battery life, easy, with Windows (I got the larger battery). But with Linux (Xandros 2.0, SUSE 9.1) I never got better than 2 hours of battery life. Nor could I get sleep, suspend or hibernate (suspend to disk) to work (I'm not a kernel hacker) for my machine.
Tired of uncooperative hardware and software I switch (back) to the Mac just yesterday. (I'm happy to see that BASH is the default shell now.)
Because some of us "shitwits" have real jobs in real companies and we have negotiated real contracts with Microsoft representatives and resellers. Some times we even decide to go with an alternative to MS in favor of a solution not having ongoing licensing fees. There are other real costs, which is why I singled out licensing fees.
However, you failed to address the reality of Microsoft's switched position of being the high-priced solution versus a low-cost, good enough solution. Not surprising for a coward, though.
Wrong. It is fundamentally different because this time it ISN'T Microsoft in the spoiler's seat. Microsoft has been leveraging a lucky break (PC-DOS with rights to MS-DOS) with being the low-price leader. Now its competition is a no-license-price leader. Tables turned, MS floundering in its new role.
Side note: there still isn't a graphic designer that can help Slashdot?
Anyway, back to the article: the last sentence concludes with a quote from a union thug^Wrepresentative:
"Clearly Microsoft is trying to increase profit margins at the expense of its U.S. employees," he intimidated^Wintimated^Wsaid.
In reality, it could just be that Microsoft is wanting to get the d@mn things done. But, a union could never suggest that, could it?
When software developers unionize then you know programming has become a job anyone could do.
(I don't like unions in 2004 at all. Sorry. Yes, I daily crossed the picket lines in Southern California during the useless grocery workers strike.)
Before the (US) West was settled and governed by laws and law-men (well, back when it was more obviously not governed by laws and law-men) people took the law into their own hands. It wasn't that people didn't like the legal system -- there wasn't one. So, in order to continue to live and attempt to make a real society out in the Wild West, they hung the "bad" guys. These were vigilantes, the "good" side of lawlessness. While vigilantes are necessary in uncivilized lands, they are counter-productive in civil society.
The Internet is a Wild West (or, to use 1990's terms, the Information Superhighway is overrun with Highwaymen) and those trying to make it a civil society (non-profit or for-profit) should not be expected to sit back and let maurading groups of Russia spammers and Nigerian Scammers ruin it for them and us. Once there is an authority in place to stop the MS-empowered superworms autopatching worms will necessarily be outlawed, too, but until then...some will do what they have to do.
Beta was and is better than VHS. Anyone understanding video would choose Beta over VHS.
Millions of average people began buying VHS machines because they were cheap. Millions more began buying VHS machines because they would play other people's tapes.
Beta, the superior technology, lost to the cheaper, "good enough" VHS because of market adoption.
Internet Explorer has and will always have GIF support. Its PNG support is less than optimal.
Got something you want everyong to see? Use GIF.
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- For example, a promoter of art is usually some rich guy, not necessarily the poor chap, who actually paints the pictures.>
That's not a promoter, that's a patron.The bloke selling the paintings is a promoter.
Rather, it is the lack of adoption that lead to the closing of Ericsson's BT division, doncha think?
- The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.
Would be:- The quick brown fx jmps v lazy dg.
Charming.- Longhorn stuffs
In Texas, we refer to that as Bull stuffs. In polite company, I mean.- Sure, one Mainframe can run many virtservs, but what happens when you have one more box than the Mainframe can handle -- buy a whole new second mainframe with all the space, power, cooling, safety infrastructure and personnel maintenance requirements for that one $99/mo additional sale? Gee, throwing yet another $400 commodity PC on a rack sure sounds good right about now...
I'd love to see a webhost go z/OS with Linux servers. But one other problem is most of the successful webhosters offer their customers the choice of Windows, too. A commodity PC can be Linux, BSD or Windows relatively easily (Ghost). I haven't heard about Windows on z/OS quite yet...not even under Linux on a s/390.- [DISCLAIMER: this is not a troll; I am a liberal].
Wrong on two accounts. First, a true "liberal" nevers calls herself that -- she is "independent" or "centerist". Second, the best trolls are "liberals" -- for proof I offer:Just for clarity, I am only responding to the contributor's writeup here on Slashdot. I know nothing of the producers (never watched SouthPark) or the actual piece. The sense of glee and "wow -- someone willing to stick it to our Gubment" elicited my reaction.
- also love comedy sticking it to our current government
How refreshing! It is so hard to find a comedic medium willing to "stick it" to "our current governement." What an artistic risk!(sarcasm, of course.)
Truly, could anything be more formulaic than a punkish slam at out Government? I don't care what you think of "our government" -- there is no lack in this overrun category. In web terms, a plot line attacking GWB is like a website in 1998 having "Pamela Anderson" in the META tags. Lame.
Great to be here and away from the oppressive Bush
regime that threatens world peace espoused by
good Germans and
(*notices Americans in the room*)
[English]
and of course I'm just kidding -- 4 more years!
That or Babelfish/Google translation is making great strides...
Please don't touch your Japanese self here in public.
Thanks.
It's like saying, the man wasn't tested for drugs
but for material evidence of mind-altering
substances.
<voice=scooby>Hrunh?</voice>
"practical skills involving quantities" would
necessarily be "mathematical" or, at least,
arithmetical, skills.
The parent was insightful. You're just bent.
Why, languages, obviously!
Why hasn't Apple/Claris sued for the obvious typo-subterfuge intended by Gator's selection of Claris^Ha as it's re-invention name?
Hmmm?
That wasn't the system mentioned in the parent, so what's your point?
In my experience, WinXP Home runs better on the same machine than Win98SE or WinME. Now, is it more secure? Dunno -- doubt it.
BTW, SP2 has been banned in our company because it breaks the security infrastructure we've built to defend WinXP from itself. Go figure.
Visions of their deep positions in Microsoft, Yahoo, eBay, and Amazon slowly devaluing... But that has to do with the company and the product (the product being sharply focused Internet services that work brilliantly) not the stock offering.
Is it a bad idea to disallow all but console password entry and require, instead, ssh level 2 keys for access? Or some kind of biometeric or other PAM-able requirement inaddition to passwords?
I gave up trying to use something other than Windows on my Dell Inspiron 5150. It had 6 hours of battery life, easy, with Windows (I got the larger battery). But with Linux (Xandros 2.0, SUSE 9.1) I never got better than 2 hours of battery life. Nor could I get sleep, suspend or hibernate (suspend to disk) to work (I'm not a kernel hacker) for my machine.
Tired of uncooperative hardware and software I switch (back) to the Mac just yesterday. (I'm happy to see that BASH is the default shell now.)
However, you failed to address the reality of Microsoft's switched position of being the high-priced solution versus a low-cost, good enough solution. Not surprising for a coward, though.
Wrong. It is fundamentally different because this time it ISN'T Microsoft in the spoiler's seat. Microsoft has been leveraging a lucky break (PC-DOS with rights to MS-DOS) with being the low-price leader. Now its competition is a no-license-price leader. Tables turned, MS floundering in its new role.
- "Clearly Microsoft is trying to increase profit margins at the expense of its U.S. employees," he intimidated^Wintimated^Wsaid.
In reality, it could just be that Microsoft is wanting to get the d@mn things done. But, a union could never suggest that, could it?When software developers unionize then you know programming has become a job anyone could do.
(I don't like unions in 2004 at all. Sorry. Yes, I daily crossed the picket lines in Southern California during the useless grocery workers strike.)
The Internet is a Wild West (or, to use 1990's terms, the Information Superhighway is overrun with Highwaymen) and those trying to make it a civil society (non-profit or for-profit) should not be expected to sit back and let maurading groups of Russia spammers and Nigerian Scammers ruin it for them and us. Once there is an authority in place to stop the MS-empowered superworms autopatching worms will necessarily be outlawed, too, but until then...some will do what they have to do.
Beta was and is better than VHS. Anyone understanding video would choose Beta over VHS. Millions of average people began buying VHS machines because they were cheap. Millions more began buying VHS machines because they would play other people's tapes. Beta, the superior technology, lost to the cheaper, "good enough" VHS because of market adoption. Internet Explorer has and will always have GIF support. Its PNG support is less than optimal. Got something you want everyong to see? Use GIF.
Your body has a finer sensitivity than a PDA -- unless you're using your nose, which is not an easy thing to use in place of a finger when writing.
Reaim the marketing to the snot-removal industry and you may be on to something.