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South Park Creators Have A New Film
Vince C writes "Trey Parker and Matt Stone are back to filmmaking again. No, it is not a South Park movie and no they are not acting. In fact, it is a totally different media... marionettes. Yep! Puppets folks. They are making Team America:World Police. If you liked the original Thunderbirds and hate the live action remake but also love comedy sticking it to our current government then you are going to love Matt and Trey's new project. Trailer and more info at the movie's site."
F*** you, I'm just big boned, me lady!
i want to see it for free as a refund for baseketball
Just saw the preview. Can't wait! Seems like Matt & Trey love being the only conservatives/libertarians in hollywood. Expect to see a lot of Michael Moore/Barbara Steisand bashing. Should be great
Guess this explains why they haven't produced a damn south park episode in so long!
No, really (this is just one reference; Google finds many more).
As long as it lives up to Baseketball's legacy, it'll be awesome...
I've gotten sick of Eddie Murphy, that Austin Powers guy and Jim Carrey lately, it'll be awesome to get some new(old) talent into the movie scene ^_^
I mean, cmon, Austin Powers 3, Shrek 2 and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind(well, _I_ laughed at the hallucinations) have been trying to give the Comedy genre a coup de grace
From the rumors I've heard and interviews I've read, they hardly make fun of Bush at all... most of their sarcasm is directed towards Hollywood celebreties that have "opinions" (err... groupthink) relating to foriegn affairs...
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I cannot fathom what made the producers of Thunderbirds think that it would be a good idea to do it as a live action movie and not with puppets. Thunderbirds' whole fucking gimmick was the puppets. Without the puppets it would have just been another mediocre, wholly forgetable kids action cartoon.
Actually it's supposed to skew both sides pretty evenly. Supposedly they really stick it to Michael Moore in the film, along with a bunch of other left-leaning celebrities.
This is semi-related, but I heard a rumor that Comedy Central was not going to show the "Lemmiwinks" episode of South Park anymore. This came shortly after the FCC crack down on Clear Channel, et al.
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As a European, I am all for Kerry's election. That baboon (yes, I do have a visceral hate for his anti-intellectual "folksyness" and I-am-on-a-mission-from-God biblethumping) of a president needs to go NOW. If he and his neo-con treaty flouting, warmongering and prisoner-torturing cronies get four more years, the entire world will be in ruins and what's left is being governed by right-wing militant theocracies.
Too bad we cannot contribute money to Kerry's campaign, but maybe we could gang up and buy internet ads...
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Parker and Stone have made jokes about the government, and not surprisingly, have done a Windows joke in the South Park movie.
General: "Fucking Windows 98! Get Bill Gates in here!"
(Gates is escorted in)
General: "You told us Windows 98 was supposed to be faster!"
Bill Gates: "Well, it is faster - over 5 times-" *BANG*
It would be cool if it didn't suck.
How exactly is this news for nerds? Yeah, I'm looking forward to the movie, but I'm not looking for information about it on slashdot.
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The thing I like the most about Matt Stone and Trey Parker's shows/movies is the extraordinary balance they generally provide. They make fun of the ridiculousness of all political perspectives. They make fun of people on the left, people on the right, liberals, conservatives, etc.
And that's really the way it should be, because both "sides" in politics are, for the most part, composed of reasonable people, the problem is the people to the extremes of both sides.
Marionette puppets are used throughout the film to mock terror threats, and media figures who dominate the nation's airwaves. But Parker and Stone save most of the mocking for left-wing pundits and Michael Moore.
"Bush is not even in the film," Parker said Sunday night from Los Angeles during the DRUDGE REPORT radio broadcast.
"I would ask that people wait and see it, before passing a judgement."
Before the invention of eruptions, lava had to be carried down the mountain by hand and thrown on sleeping villagers.
From stop-motion construction paper cut-outs to stupid looking puppets. How far we've come!
Can you say, "Puppet Sex?"
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Screw Thunderbirds, this would be even cooler if it were in the style of Thundercats.
I mean, besides the obvious fact that Thundercats was a cooler show, cats kill birds, it's a fact of nature. Plus, you know, there's Cheetara.
Just keep pouring in the money, I'll take care of it...
I do not want to install flash. I should not need a browser plugin to learn about your movie. At least provide an html version. And jesus quicktime is not the only format out there. If it wasn't for the hacked version of that codec I would never see any movie trailers.
Apparently, the submitter hasn't read the response from the creators where they plainly state that they skewer the left more than they do the right. Even the trailer says as much.
Trey and Matt are libertarians who despise both Republicans and Democrats (and rightly so).
You, sir, will go far with your helpful attitude.
They were hardly called "liberal traitors." Nice hyperbole on your part. Nonetheless, they quickly responded that the Bush administration should actually wait and see the film--it criticizes the left more than the right. They are libertarians who despise both parties.
Why on earth is this "flamebait?"
You couldn't see it in Mozilla? Works fine in Safari so it's not just an IE job... Go directly to apple.com/quicktime and find it there I guess. It's worth seeing ;)
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I was talking about Taco and crew. Parker and Stone are entertainers, and they know it. The /. bunch are falling into the trap of believing thier own bullshit.
According to Terry and Matt, he's not even in it.
Of course he isn't... They only actors are puppets!
What good do the libertarians do besides being the political equivalent of apple fanboys? Is there even a point to your posturing and complaining? Doesn't look to me like you guys actually do anything besides complain.
I think you answered your own question. One of the main things the American third parties accomplish at this point is to provide a viewpoint apart from the kneejerk opposite reaction that will be found in the other second party. Much of the party platform of both Republicans and Democrats is formed because it's the opposite of what the other party wants, not on the merit of whatever it actually means. Opinions coming from outside both sides at least have a slightly better chance of getting into consideration than the same idea might have if proposed by whatever party the person in question is in opposition to.
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ummm AC for fear of modness but I thought this guy has a valid point, how do you play the .movs from the wonderful "opensource-supporting" apple?
Realplayer/helix had theora support before most of the gpl/community players did. I think there is an argument for dissing out apple here. Even turbolinux was able to licence wmv codecs for their distro, and powerdvd is on linux too.
Anyway, how do we watch the trailer on linux?
"the movie's website is completely blank! Guess they didn' want us mozilla users to see it, oh well...."
It runs fine in Moz. But maybe someone like you should use IE. Or a Mac. Or maybe a crayon.
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Holy crap man, whoever the fuck decided that the site should play music and have a helicopter flying by at like 200% volume deserves to be shot. I've sat here and checked, the sounds on that page play over twice as loud as any other sounds I can get my computer to play... But that could partly be just because my ears are still ringing...
...so if someone would post a direct link to the trailer, that would be appreciated.
I wish the blurb would have mentioned the recent dvd release of How's Your News, which Matt and Trey funded. The basic premise is that a group of people with various mental disabilities go on a tour of America and interview people along the way. They're not prompted at all, they and the people interviewed are the only ones you ever see. Which is one of the cool things about it, they're just out there being themselves and having fun. It's really facinating seeing their reactions and those of the people around them as the interviews progress, or they check into a hotel, or pick up a hitchiker. The movie's not easy to describe as much of it comes down to the tone rather than the premise. There's a link to an interview on This American Life on their site which gives a better picture than I'm able to.
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It's the only thing the;ve done right, and the only thing they will ever do right. They need to make new episodes.
George Bush and buddies *are* in the film. Watch the trailer.
Not a flamebait in the least, I am not pro anyone. However, it appears that some moderators are paranoid about these particular truths; I don't blame them.
How about this for an example:
Two individuals wore anti-Bush T-shirts on the president's July 4 rally. The pair were taken from the event in restaints after revealing T-shirts with Bush's name crossed out on the front and the words "Love America, Hate Bush" on the back. They were restained, publically humiliated and charged with trespassing (charges later dropped).
Wow, not unlike something the Russian politburo would have done in the 70's or 80's, hmm?
How's that for freedom of speech.
Hmm.. a movie about the reactions to 9/11 and the president is not even in it. Maybe that's the insult?
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Marionets are different from puppets. Marionets have wires, puppets are directly hand-controlled.
Hybrids of those are possible of course, and they exist too -- Muppets. They got both someone pulling their strings AND someone's hand up their ehrm... back. What a way to make a living.
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sorry mcfly, but Matt and Trey are libertarians and despise wacko leftist morons (John Kerry) 100x more than they hate Bush.
Way to go, judge something that you haven't seenmore then five minutes of.
Puppets, eh? I hope they do the right thing and hire the best puppeteer in the world, John Malkovich.
What good do the libertarians do besides being the political equivalent of apple fanboys?
So instead we're supposed to engage in groupthink, join the Borg, and "be one" with one of the two major parties - despite the fact that we disagree with both of them on a number of fundamental issues?
Nice attitude, that.
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They make fun of the ridiculousness of all political perspectives. They make fun of people on the left, people on the right, liberals, conservatives, etc.
In other words, they're afraid of taking a position and standing by it. Since they make fun of EVERYONE, nobody can accuse them of having a liberal/conservative bias, because nobody can figure out what exactly they stand for. The only message that comes through is "everybody is wrong, don't trust anyone".
This wouldn't be so bad if the criticism was actually justified, but most of the time it's just incredibly stupid things like "lets tear down the rain forest because it's filled with bugs and environmental groups annoy us" or "lets make corporations look good because all the slack they get annoy us" or "lets make Native Americans look bad on national television (but never blacks or latinos... that would be racism, heh) because people thinking highly of them annoy us". They're just like Tom Green in their mentality, they'd call their own mothers dirty sluts for no good reason and people would hail that as "social criticism" when it's just the way they are and think.
"You should never doubt what nobody is sure about." -- Willy Wonka
What about the rest of the world, you insensitive clod!
I want to delete my account but Slashdot doesn't allow it.
Anyway, how do we watch the trailer on linux?
Seems to me that you should be blaming the film makers, not Apple, but you could look here to start with.
>vurrrrry correct about everything
Like that piece of war porn The Jessica Lynch story?
Or how they pulled the Reagans?
Or how dissenting voices regarding the Iraq invasion were barely heard?
Or how a Hollywood star is now the governor of California and a Republican.
Or how media ownership is concentraed into the hands of a few vocal conservatives?
Or how F9/11 got dropped by Disney and was in "can't find a distributator" mode for a while?
Or how every "history" movie (especially WWII) is ahistoric and highly pro-American. With the exception of Vietnam movies.
Or how the Pentagon will lend Hollywood any equipment they want but they get to edit the script for right-wing pro-military ahistory "patriotic correctness?"
Or how TV was quick to digitally remove the twin towers from every skyline as not to upset anyone?
Or how shows that tackle history in an honest and non-partisan way only exist on PBS?
Or how Malkin can go on TV and say Kerry shot himself for his medals? Or how Anne Coulter can openly call Liberals treasonous and demand the deaths of muslims and coverting them to Xtianity. Both of whom are still on the pundit short list for other shows.
Or how only a satiric comedy show (the Daily Show) can actually break and frame issues in a manner which isn't corporate media ass-kissing?
Yeah, its pretty PC lefty out there! You many know some liberals in the industry, but it doesnt make a difference if their bosses (who dictate policy and bias and call the shots) are conservatives like Rupert Murdoch, Rev Moon, etc.
A movie made for me, my parents didn't let me watch south park (too contraversial) but my dad was the one who e-mailed me the link for this movie first about a month ago, and I though slashdot was current).
Parker and Trey both recieved public aid to goto college at the the University of Colorado.
Both are now multi-millonaires with very little in common with you and me. If they have a philosophy its contrarianism and vulger/shock humor. To hold them up to anything else is being a bit pretentious about their work, which is as anti-pretentious as it gets.
You're right, I meant "flack", thanks for pointing that out.
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I couldn't see it in Mozilla (1.7 under linux) either. I right-clicked on the video box and selected Settings and got a box that appeared to be asking permission to access my camera and microphone. It was set to Deny be default.
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Lady Penelope.... now that's a bird I wouldn't mind thundering! Seriously though, I Matt and Trey are usually really good at finding good targets to aim at - evidenced by South Park ... so I'm looking forward to this.
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I agree with him. That show is utter garbage. I have tried to watch episodes, and found it so bad that I was deeply troubled for hours afterward. He did himself a favor only watching 5 minutes of it.
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Yes, and people who like Bush usually find marionette shows to provide deep and insightful analysis of world events. This should be a big win all round!
- also love comedy sticking it to our current government
How refreshing! It is so hard to find a comedic medium willing to "stick it" to "our current governement." What an artistic risk!(sarcasm, of course.)
Truly, could anything be more formulaic than a punkish slam at out Government? I don't care what you think of "our government" -- there is no lack in this overrun category. In web terms, a plot line attacking GWB is like a website in 1998 having "Pamela Anderson" in the META tags. Lame.
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I recommend Trey/Matt fans check out Cannibal! The Musical. If you liked the musical numbers in South Park, you'll love this one. Some great squibs, also. Trey's horrible acting and 80's hair (even though the movie was made in the 90's) are hilarious. Don't let a slow start fool you. Listen to the drunken commentary track, too.
Right on the money.
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I can't wait to hear the left's jaws hit the floor when they go into this film expecting another Moore-love-fest (like the submitter seems to think).
Thats the gist of it. Not fond of Bush but damn... you would have to try hard to find a worse choice than Kerry..... maby Ted (hickup) Kennedy.
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Bush = At least he does what he says.
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>>Or how Malkin can go on TV and say Kerry shot himself for his medals?
from her site (http://michellemalkin.com/archives/000418.htm)
Here is how I responded verbatim:
"Well yeah. Why don't people ask him more specific questions about the shrapnel in his leg? There are legitimate questions about whether or not it was a self-inflicted wound."
Matthews frantically stuffed words down my mouth when I raised these allegations made in Unfit for Command that Kerry's wounds might have been self-inflicted. In his ill-informed and ideologically warped mind, this transmogrified into me accusing Kerry of "shooting himself on purpose" to get an award.
I repeated that the allegations involved whether the injuries were "self inflicted wounds." I DID NOT SAY HE SHOT HIMSELF ON PURPOSE and Chris Matthews knows it.
Only someone who had not read Unfit for Command would interpret what I was saying the way Matthews did. The book raises questions by vets, many of whom were with Kerry, about whether there was or wasn't enemy fire during the Dec. 1968 incident that led to his first Purple Heart (Patrick Runyon is quoted in a Boston Globe account on p. 35 saying "I can't say for sure that we got return fire or how [Kerry] got nicked. I couldn't say one way or the other. I know he did get nicked, a scrape on the arm.") and whether the injury came from a self-inflicted wound after he caught a tiny piece of shrapnel when he fired a grenade from his M-79 grenade launcher too close (p. 36); whether or not there was "intense rocket and rifle fire" during the Feb. 1969 incident that led to his second Purple Heart (Rocky Hildreth, officer of an accompanying boat on Dam Doi Canal that day, says there was no "intense rocket and rifle fire" on p. 78); and whether the shrapnel wound in his buttocks, which Kerry says he sustained in March 1969 and led to the awarding of his third Purple Heart, was the result of a mine explosion while on a mission or from a wound from his own grenade that he set off too close to a stock of rice he was trying to destroy (p. 87). See also pages 30-31. I was trying to get to these points, but Matthews would not let me finish a sentence.
Actually, the rally was a private party so technically they can kick out anyone they wish... and if I were a republican, I doubt I would want hecklers at my private party either. I'm not sure it has anything to do with freedom of speech. If it were a public event I would completely agree with you.
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You just proved his point. There were plenty of people with strong arguments against the war. The mainstream media only showed you folks that would be written off as nut-jobs. It's a variation on the straw-man argument. The media showed you that the opposition was a bunch of loons who only know how to yell and wave signs; but it ignored the reasons why these people were protesting just as it ignored the more intellectual opposition to the war.
People who complain about the liberal media don't know what liberal means. The media in this country is far to the right of the media in most nations.
Poor Georgie, he might find out that people don't like him!
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First, this isn't new. I blogged it 3 weeks ago asking if Trey Parker and Matt Stone really think now is the time for a comedy about terrorism?
Maybe there's some deep moral meaning to this film, but from the small amount I've seen, the all white Team America is fighting darker complected marionettes around the world. Are they going to put a "This film is dedicated to the US service men and women who have lost their lives fighting terrorism..." message and then think everything is alright?
I'm guessing the friends and families of 957 killed and 6,497 wounded (and counting) in Iraq aren't going to find this movie very amusing.
In a Variety interview Matt Stone said, "This will probably piss off everyone in town, and might well be our swan song."
I think he's right.
Wow, not unlike something the Russian politburo would have done in the 70's or 80's, hmm?
Big mistake-- liberals are supposed to compare conservatives to Hitler and/or nazis, not communists. It's clearly stated on page 358 of the Liberal Guidebook for Debate Against Conservatives, right after the section titled "accuse your opponent of starving the nation's children, elderly, minorities, disabled, and puppies."
Well, nerds apparently are the ones finding the Thunderbirds revival interesting, and it seems as though a fair number of Slashdot nerds seem to lean toward the right...
I call it all because of the Puppet Factor(tm). Geeks like Thunderbirds, and Geeks like Bush, so I figure it's all about the puppets.
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Rumors on drudgereport and other shakey sites say the movie is being rated nc-17 for 'puppet sex'. Now thats just awsome, marrionette pr0n has got to be a new frontier. Lets see if they cut it out or down for a R. The uncut directors edition DVD is going to F'ing kick ass.
How's that for freedom of speech.
Oh please, how can anyone say that GWB is quashing anyone's right to dissent when Farenheight 9/11 has grossed over $100 million? Go to any bookstore these days and you'll find literally whole sections of material dedicated to Bush-bashing. How would that be possible if Bush was somehow quashing dissent?
On the other hand, John Kerry is trying to get a book made by one of the Swift Boat Vets, Unfit For Command banned... why isn't anyone accusing him of quashing those who don't agree with him?
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well, we still managed to slashdot the apple trailer site...
"But they've never before done it with marionettes."
i read on drudge that this film is expected to receive an NC-17 rating...
just an fyi...
It's sad that it takes a film to stick it to the liberal left. But that's the liberal media for you.
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I used to like the show and watch every episode. Now, I will only watch it if I'm channel surfing and happen to hit it, and then only for a few minutes. Maybe my tastes have changed, but it just doesn't seem as good as it used to be. It seems much more childish and immature than I remember it. The last episode I can remember fully watching was the one where Cartman kills Kyle's parents and serves them in a soup. Must have been at least a year ago, probably more.
"On the other hand, John Kerry is trying to get a book made by one of the Swift Boat Vets, Unfit For Command banned... why isn't anyone accusing him of quashing those who don't agree with him?"
Um... because you're lying?
hehe. Since when did Matt and Trey become conservative. Matt was in Bowling for Columbine ;)
And Michael Moore was in the NRA! What the hell is your point? Moore has often tried to distance himself from the left.
Check out Political Compass. See, for instance, - On the standard left-right scale, how do you distinguish leftists like Stalin and Gandhi? It's not sufficient to say that Stalin was simply more left than Gandhi. There are fundamental political differences between them that the old categories on their own can't explain.
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The average US citizen probably has 20, possibly now even 30, votes in their lifetime.
A vote is only thrown away when you don't vote.
Vote against your principles only if you think voting for your principles would result in some catastrophic intrusion in your life, but I don't think Bush vs Gore was such an event, nor do I think Bush vs Kerry is also such an event.
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Generally it primarily takes a moron to continue insisting on the same thing even after evidence shows it not to be true, and to continue doing the same thing anyway. Morons show an incapacity to learn from their mistakes, or admit when they were wrong about something. It is more difficult to listen to new evidence and admit you are wrong about something.
Please vote for Kerry this November. I'm not trying to deny anyone the right to vote for whoever they want, but I don't think most of us can stand "four more years".
So instead we're supposed to engage in groupthink, join the Borg, and "be one" with one of the two major parties - despite the fact that we disagree with both of them on a number of fundamental issues?
Sigh.
Yes. You are supposed to participate in the political process despite the fact that you disagree with people. Wandering off and forming your own "my way or the highway" political party that nobody in his right mind would ever support is not a good way to participate in democracy. It's exactly the same as refusing to vote, only you're being snooty about it.
I deeply, deeply disagree with the Republican party on a number of important issues: education privatization through vouchers and charters, capital punishment, embryonic stem cell research, the Medicare entitlement, and so on. But you know what? I'm a Republican anyway. On those issues where I disagree with the party platform, I talk and write and try to persuade. When I get outvoted, I wait until the next time around and then talk and write and try to persuade again.
It wasn't that long ago that I could have written the same paragraph substituting the word "Democrat" for "Republican." Until 2001, I was an active member of the Democratic party, even though I disagreed with the platform on some key points (Social Security, abortion, fetal stem cell research). But since 9/11, the Democratic party has slowly, gradually gone completely insane, so I started going to the other meeting.
Ours is a participatory system. If you don't want to play nice with the other kids, that's fine, but don't get all uppity about how the system has failed you. You have failed the system.
If you want to be a dumbass about how our system works, that's fine. It's a free country. But I think it's pretty lame to opt out and then try to spin it into some kind of moral high ground.
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Not exactly sucking up to the Bush administration, as I remember.
Ever see Matt and Trey interviewed about their polical views or opinions of Bush? They are not exactly the total conservitive Bush lovers you may think.
The preview for this film has been out for weeks.
Well put. It is idealogues who are incapable of changing their positions that got us in this position in the first place.
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You'd never know that from Chris Matthews' shameful attempt to portray her response to Willie Brown's comment about shrapnel circumstances as an accusation that the self-inflicted wounds were deliberate. Having set up this straw man, rather than allowing her to explain the details (he seems unable to allow anyone to speak for five seconds without interrupting them) he followed by cancelling the segment to discuss her book, which would have been good TV.
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your point being that because the media in other countries are more liberal than the already liberal media here that the media here is in fact not liberal?
Liberal and conservative are relative things. When used as an absolute, i.e. "the media is liberal," you must agree on a scale. My point in saying that the media here is considered conservative by others was to illustrate that the scale used to measure conservatism and liberalism in this country is skewed to the right to begin with. From the outside, the argument that the American media is liberal looks about as silly as an argument between a pair of ants over whose hill is higher would look to a human.
The funny thing is you say their was plenty of people with strong arguments against the war, yet you yourself provide no argument.
You'll note that just as I did not provide any arguments about the war, I did not provide any arguments against the cancellation of Futurama. This is because I was neither writing about the war nor about Futurama. I was arguing about the characterization of the protesters provided by the mainstream media. In my previous post I was not arguing against the war, so I did not provide any arguments against it. The same goes for this post.
...this trailer for a film that celebrates the freedom of speech in a BIG way has so much DRM that I cannot even save it to my hard drive.
Why? Are they afraid I might promote their film without their permission?
Reading about politics on slashdot is like reading about technology on politicalforum.com. The only thing funnier than some of the opinions is what geeks will mod to "Insightful".
What's the weather like, so far up your own ass?
How could you miss eight months of "he's rushing to war?" How could you miss the Useless Nations discussions and votes? How could you miss the opinions from CNN ABC NBC CBS PBS NPR MSNBC Reuters and AP?
It's always the same: Leftists don't observe, neither do they think. Only a willful ignoramus could have missed the crapflood of protest led by the media.
But you know what? I'm a Republican anyway.
But ya know what? I don't give a shit. Just because you lack the balls to take an alternative route doesn't mean that I have to cut mine off as well.
If that doesn't work for you, well then, fuck off. It's a free country, or so I'm told.
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Yes, well it has been proven that Saddam was a terrorist threat... though his support of Al Quaida and the like. Just because he did not direcly plan 9/11 does not mean he did not indirectly fund it. The only county with a more solid link to terror is IRAN. It is sad that the Democrats would have us WAIT while Saddam continued to defy the weak UN and further fill mass graves with those who dare speak up. Just remember that the person who spoke the loudest of the threat of Iraq and stated the need for the removal of Saddam was KERRY. http://www.rnc.org/
You can save and play both the Flash file and the QuickTime file. Full-screen, even. What's the problem?
Support of Al Qaeda? That's simply not true. Al Qaeda couldn't stand Hussein's regime and wanted nothing to do with him. Hussein's government was secular, and Al Qaeda disapproved rather heartily, since they were in favour of an islamic government.
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This was written and directed by the naked gun guys. Matt and Trey just starred in it.
Matt Stone is a Republican and Trey Parker is a libertarian.
I saw an interview with Matt where he professed his Republicanism, and here is an article about Trey Parker's letter writing campaign and endorsements of Libertarian candidates.
Oh and their appearence in Bowling for Columbine? One thing about Michael Moore, if you agree with his views or not, is that he is extremely deceptive with his filmmaking. They didn't make the "History of the USA" cartoon that is in the movie. Michael Moore wrote the cartoon and gave you the impression that the South Park folks had done it by inserting clips from the real South Park in the rest of the movie, interviewing Matt Stone in the movie before the cartoon is shown, and having Harold Moss animate the cartoon in a style that mimics South Park's style. So the interview with the guys pretty much stands on it's own as "South Park and Littleton kinda suck." I don't know how you get "We're flaming liberals!" out of that.
They do tend to stick it to both sides though, I forget which of then said, "We hate conservatives. But we really fucking hate liberals."
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John Kerry campaign spokesman says the book Unfit for Command, because it contains "proven falsehoods" about the candidate's Vietnam War record, should be removed from bookstore shelves.
Here's your source, now STFU.
Or are you now, pedantically like a limp-wristed liberal (or a Doublespeak pusher), claim that "asking to remove books from bookstore shelves" != banning.
Get stuffed; your candidate sux.
I posted on this Twenty-one days ago at Watching the Watchers, and it was completely ignored. Now, a month later, it gets attention. Bullshit.
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~MadScie
Regarding the book in question, if contains statements that are provably false and is intended to damage the Kerry campaign (which it clearly is), it's libelous and the Kerry campaign could sue for its removal. Sadly, a court decision would surely take until post-election, after which the damage is already done. As much as calling for its removal irks my first-amendment tendencies, does he have any other option?
In any case, I find it a bit odd that Kerry is the evil one here, given that the Bush camp is the one that appears to be selling a libelous book.
...and of course, I refer to the 'Princess' series. Warning--most definitely not work safe.
Wow... nowadays all it takes to start a flamewar is just to say "government" or "bush" and they come out of the woodwork!
I saw the trailer a while back when it first came out. I'm excited - it's going to be hilarious I'm sure.
But in the meantime, I thought I'd try to keep the debate going with these equally important points:
Pinko! Republican Fat-Cats! Can't say "nuclear!" Tax cuts! Dirty Sanchez! Streisand! Coulter! School vouchers! Fahrenheit 9-11! Heinz Ketchup! War Hero! Communist! Boycott! Treason! Terrorist sympathizers! Immoral! Abstinence! Penile implants!
So THERE!
So since Bin Laden is our Enemey, and Sadam was Bin Laden's Enemy, then Sadam was our friend? Seems like a poor way to treat a friend. Or does that mean that Sadam was our enemy and Bin Laden is our friend?
Believe it or not it _is_ possible to have three people or three groups of people who all hate each other.
Another example, i hate Bush, and i have a pretty poor opinion of Micheal Moore too. Does that make Micheal Moore and Bush friends?
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Puppets and/or marionettes having sex has been done before. If you do not value your sanity, watch Let My Puppets Come, an eye-bleed-causing piece of trash from 1976 full of hardcore puppet porn. It's so terrible, IMDB apparently refuses to list it. If for some reason you feel compelled to track down and watch this monstrous, obscene crime against humanity, be aware that there's several different cut that vary wildly in length, from 45 minutes to over 100 minutes.
the Kerry campaign could sue for its removal
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They won't though.
Why not? Because in so doing, the court would demand to see Kerry's entire service records, thus making them public record. And Kerry doesn't want those seeing too much sunshine. .
"The Bush camp" isn't "selling a libelous book:" (1) the man selling it is a registered Democrat and has been speaking out against Kerry's faux heroism for twenty some years... long before Bush and the profits from the book will be going to some military or veterans group, (2) the book isn't libelous. Until Kerry sues for libel and wins, your statement is just unproven hot air.
Kerry goons were trying to get the book banned. You got your source.
Freakin' Drudge had these guys on his radio show about a week ago. Uh... I would have submitted it, but hey, I though even THAT was too old for slashdot, guess not. Mod down please.
-- Liberalism is a mental disorder.
Point taken. However Saddam did support terrorism. He has USED WMDs in the past. Can't use what you do not have. AND WOULD HAVE HAD NO PROBLEM SUPPLYING TERROR GROUPS WITH THEM. Most if not all of his weapons programs were sent to Syria. i.e long rang missles and nuclear program parts.
Ron Paul, (R. Texas)
Before the Iraq war in 2003, he posed are series of questions that other congress critters should ask themselves. Read them here
I didn't hear any serious debates about it anywhere.
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As usual, the liberal mantra of "oppressed dissension" is a paranoid lie invented to make Bush look bad.
Or how they pulled the Reagans?
The script for the movie was almost entirely falsified. They portrayed everybody in a negative light and even implied Reagan was completely senile. CBS pulled the show after fan complaints--the government didn't do a thing. CBS could have gone ahead and aired it if they wanted to. Fuck, man, Barabara Streisand's husband was playing Reagan!
Or how dissenting voices regarding the Iraq invasion were barely heard?
This is the most laughable claim in your list. Protesters were "barely heard?" Are you freaking kidding me? Every channel on TV aired protester opinions, all the newspapers--even a feature film "documentary" that made $100 million. There are endless liberal smear books on the market right now. You're completely lying, and you know it.
Or how a Hollywood star is now the governor of California and a Republican.
What this has to do with anything, I have no idea. Just a random jab for no reason.
Or how media ownership is concentraed into the hands of a few vocal conservatives?
Most of the media is liberal, according to all the polls.
Or how F9/11 got dropped by Disney and was in "can't find a distributator" mode for a while?
Yeah, it was dropped LAST YEAR. Moore was told about it way back in 2003. Gee, he brought it up right before Cannes as some sort of conspiracy, I wonder why?
Or how every "history" movie (especially WWII) is ahistoric and highly pro-American. With the exception of Vietnam movies.
Another irrelevant lie. Not every history movie is ahistoric and highly pro-American. Not only have you not viewed every history movie, but I could list endless films that contradict your claim.
Or how the Pentagon will lend Hollywood any equipment they want but they get to edit the script for right-wing pro-military ahistory "patriotic correctness?"
Care to cite a single example for this false claim?
Or how TV was quick to digitally remove the twin towers from every skyline as not to upset anyone?
What the FUCK does this have to do with the left OR the right wing? It was done out of sensitivity for 2,000 people being lost in New York. It's not a right-wing conspiracy to wipe out the twin towers in an episode of Friends. Jesus H. Christ.
Or how shows that tackle history in an honest and non-partisan way only exist on PBS?
"Honest and non-partisan way" = liberal or anti-American. PBS is well-known as a liberal station. You just demonstrated your bias, lol.
Or how Malkin can go on TV and say Kerry shot himself for his medals?
She didn't. Another complete lie. This is why liberals are frowned upon by the majority of the folks. It's not about issues anymore, it's about personal vitriol toward people you actually HATE because you disagree with them.
Or how Anne Coulter can openly call Liberals treasonous and demand the deaths of muslims and coverting them to Xtianity.
Yet another complete lie. Care to cite a single quote or example?
Or how only a satiric comedy show (the Daily Show) can actually break and frame issues in a manner which isn't corporate media ass-kissing?
Funny, since Comedy Central ran ads for Fahrenheit 9/11 an average of EVERY FIVE COMMERCIALS. John Stewart and Stephen Colbare are--you guessed it--self-proclaimed Democrats.
As a matter of fact, before every taping (as well as in interviews), Stewart always expresses his surprise that people view the Daily Show as a non-biased source of news analysis. It is not.
Yeah, its pretty PC lefty out there!
Hollywood is liberal. This is common knowledge. A journalism poll showed that the majority of journalists are liberal.
You many know some liberals in the industry, bu
George Bush and buddies *are* in the film. Watch the trailer.
No, he's not. Terry himself said so on Drudge's radio show as well as in the New York Daily News. I watched the trailer weeks ago.
and even implied Reagan was completely senile
Given that I saw him falling asleep while being interviewed on Australian television in the mid-1980s (and Nancy elbowing him more and more vigorously to wake him up), that's not too far from my memory of the times.
deus does not exist but if he does
I learned something today. /.-er's will argue about anything.
How can we figure out what side of the political spectrum Matt and Trey are on? What would Brian Boitano do in this situation?
Yet another complete lie. Care to cite a single quote or example?
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Her book is called "Treason: Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism"
As for the second part:
http://www.nationalreview.com/coulter/coulter0913
Airports scrupulously apply the same laughably ineffective airport harassment to Suzy Chapstick as to Muslim hijackers. It is preposterous to assume every passenger is a potential crazed homicidal maniac. We know who the homicidal maniacs are. They are the ones cheering and dancing right now.
We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war.
Write it off as hyperbole, tongue-in-cheek, whatever, but she did say it.
From the parent:
and if I were a republican, I doubt I would want hecklers at my private party either
"It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance." - Thomas Sowell
Don't need it. Bush looks bad enough to the world as it is.
This is the most laughable claim in your list. Protesters were "barely heard?" Are you freaking kidding me? Every channel on TV aired protester opinions, all the newspapers--even a feature film "documentary" that made $100 million. There are endless liberal smear books on the market right now. You're completely lying, and you know it.
The protesters aren't heard on the News. They are seen. That is a big difference. Few media outlets explained the protester's reasoning. The same thing happens during IFM/World Bank riots. Its about marginalizing the issues.
Most of the media is liberal, according to all the polls.
I bet so. If you count every employee, then of course news stations are liberal. The janitors are liberal. The beat writers are mostly liberal. Where it matters, though, the media organizations are very conservative. The marketing department (which sits on the editorial boards of some News Organizations )is conservative. And most importantly, most of the major media companies have conservative CEO's and owners. Disney, News Corp., Warner. All have conservative leadership. Sure there are some random Teds, but most of the liberal tycoons (especially Ted) have been marginalized the past couple years.
Yeah, it was dropped LAST YEAR. Moore was told about it way back in 2003. Gee, he brought it up right before Cannes as some sort of conspiracy, I wonder why?
Um, because that is when his movie started getting major media publicity. You know, when the most people are listening.
What the FUCK does this have to do with the left OR the right wing? It was done out of sensitivity for 2,000 people being lost in New York. It's not a right-wing conspiracy to wipe out the twin towers in an episode of Friends. Jesus H. Christ.
Do we erase freeways because tens of thousands of people die on them every year? No. Highway death is a gritty fact of life. So was 9/11. Dealing with something is one thing, erasing it is a whole different story.
"Honest and non-partisan way" = liberal or anti-American. PBS is well-known as a liberal station. You just demonstrated your bias, lol.
Every organization has some sort of bias. What should he have named? I like the BBC for the same function personally.
She didn't. Another complete lie. This is why liberals are frowned upon by the majority of the folks. It's not about issues anymore, it's about personal vitriol toward people you actually HATE because you disagree with them.
Oh, and that's a lot freaking better than conservatives calling dissenters unpatriotic? I think its sick that conservatives are tearing apart Kerry's service anyway.
The only living man to actually see Kerry's actions has come out against the Swiftboat Group.
With conservatives is all "support your troops," unless one of them runs for president as a Democrat of course!
Yet another complete lie. Care to cite a single quote or example?
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I quote from the article she wrote:We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war.
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Funny, since Comedy Central ran ads for Fahrenheit 9/11 an average of EVERY FIVE COMMERCIALS. John Stewart and Stephen Colbare are--you guessed it--self-proclaimed Democrats.
As a matter of fact, before every taping (as well as in interviews), Stewart always expresses his surprise that people view the Daily Show as a non-biased source of news analysis. It is not.
Open Source Sushi
dont go trying to smear Communism because your Plutocracy is out of control.
My fellow Americans. Our country is in a state of crisis, but the cause of the c
risis does not come from outside. It comes from within the United States. It com
es from within our own government. It comes from among our own friends neighbor
s and relatives. People of all walks of life have had their integrity compromis
ed by the promises of wealth from big business and corporations. The time has co
me to show the monsters that control our corporations who this country really be
longs to. Business and money have never been the sole objective of the American
people. Our dream was that of "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". Howe
ver, it has been perverted by the manipulation of the natural trait of greed tha
t lives within every one of us. Take a look at yourself. A good long look. Have
you succumbed? (I believe Twirlip of the Mists has) Have you been compromised?
(Certainly Twirlip of the Mists has been compromised) Do you believe that the f
astest and best way to succeed in life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is
to make a lot of money? If so, check your thoughts carefully and read on...
Money is merely a tool, and a poor one at that. It has many failings. The bigges
t failing is that it cannot buy you the primary American goals. It cannot bring
you more life. You only have a certain length of life given to you and you must
use it as effectively as possible to make life better for those around you. Libe
rty is something you have to work for every day, it is not something that you ca
n just buy with money. Of course, we all know that money can not now, nor will i
t ever buy you true and lasting happiness. Money is also not a lot of good to yo
u once you shuffle off this mortal coil. As they say, "you can't take it with yo
u". Money is a dead tool which is likely to make your life more miserable the mo
re you become addicted to attaining as much of it as you can. Money is a tool th
at you cannot control. Quite the contrary, it is used to control you. This inter
feres with the liberty that each and every American should expect and demand fro
m our society.
Sadly, the United States and it's citizens have been damaged. The average Americ
an has been duped into believing that if only they could become wealthier, they
would be happier, freer and have a more prosperous life than anyone else. But we
alth is a limited resource. Consider this fact. The things that we need to live
(food, water, air, shelter), if evenly split among every human on the planet wou
ld bring us back to the stone age. As much as the money lovers would have you be
lieve that wealth is not a "zero sum" game, it is. There is not enough wealth t
o go around for everyone.
As a true American with real American ideals, I am sincerely imploring you to re
ally consider what America is really aupposed to be about. We aren't about busin
ess or profit. We aren't about being the world's police force. We certainly aren
't about being a police state (which we have veered towards in a short time due
to a few greedy and selfish men like Twirlip of the Mists). If you are a real Am
erican, then you believe that every man, woman and child on this planet deserves
a fair shot at life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Because, in essence,
a true American who upholds fairness to all people regardless of race or sex is
the ideal of what a human being should be.
With that said, let's change the regime this fall. Vote for Kerry to get Bush ou
t. Do your part to balance every conversation that is contrary to true American
beliefs. Wherever you see someone supporting the current administration, make
sure that the opposite voice is heard just as loudly and just as clearly. Peopl
e like Twirlip of the Mists cannot be allowed to speak without rebuttal. Provid
ing the opposite view at every turn is true fairness at work. This is a true Am
erican ideal. Although people like Twirlip of t
YHBT. YHL. HAND.
Love,
rd_syringe (aka Overly Critical Guy aka bonch)
YHBT. YHL. HAND.
Love,
rd_syringe (aka Overly Critical Guy aka bonch)
Don't be taken in by this idiot--he has accounts under the names bonch and Overly Critical Guy. He has a history of astroturfing for Microsoft, bashing anything Open Source, using lies and half-truths to get modded up, karma whoring, and the usual trolling (under his bonch account, he got a troll posted to the front page of Slashdot).
All you have to do to check the veracity of this is to look at the posting history of his two old personnae (linked above) and his current one to figure it out.
Please do not mod this jerk up--every time you do the Slashdot S/N ratio goes down while bonch/Overly Critical Guy/rd_syringe just laughs at you.
This has been a public service announcement
Don't be taken in by this idiot--he has accounts under the names bonch and Overly Critical Guy. He has a history of astroturfing for Microsoft, bashing anything Open Source, using lies and half-truths to get modded up, karma whoring, and the usual trolling (under his bonch account, he got a troll posted to the front page of Slashdot).
All you have to do to check the veracity of this is to look at the posting history of his two old personnae (linked above) and his current one to figure it out.
Please do not mod this jerk up--every time you do the Slashdot S/N ratio goes down while bonch/Overly Critical Guy/rd_syringe just laughs at you.
This has been a public service announcement
Honestly, when has a boycott of a company the size of Disney, NBC, CBS, ever made any sort of a difference to their bottom line? I've never seen a press release to the effect "3rd quarter profits were down 80% because of a consumer boycott..."
I think it's just a convenient excuse.
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