You're right you said a hundred years but my point stands that it took less than 25 years to grow from zero to a national network of gas station and that included having to build refineries and the logistical infrastructure to deliver the gas to the stations. We already have the production said and distribution network, all we need is the end-point delivery systems. Should be one hell of a lot less of a job to build those charging stations.
How many americans own a second vehicle for just this scenario? Econobox for commuting/taking the kids to school and a Van/Truck for hauling stuff. An awful lot judging by the driveways where I live.
Replace the econobox with an EV the next time you are in the market and the commute is suddenly a lot more environmentally friendly with no change in lifestyle except you not longer need to keep watch for the cheapest gas around.
If 90% of commuters buy EVs you would expect to have economies of scale start to kick in, hopefully reducing the cost of the EV down to the cost of more traditional econoboxes which should offset the loss of government subsidies. You are most likely correct on the tolls and car pool access going away.
If you really want to compare apples to apples, eliminate the subsidies on petroleum and then compare because all those external costs need to be factored into gas costs, you know the cost of the military keeping those shipping lanes open.
Not an EV owner yet but seriously considering for my next commuter vehicle. 50 miles round trip should provide a decent pay back period.
What percentage of people own two vehicles, the econobox for commuting and a Van or Truck for family days or hauling cargo? Here in the US that percentage is pretty damn high.
Replace the ICE econobox with a Leaf or 500e and you have the same scenario only with the EV.
The real problem boils down to infrastructure. We've had a hundred years to build up the infrastructure to refuel IC engine vehicles pretty much anywhere.
Your timeline is a bit off, personal ICE vehicles became common somewhere after 1900, depending on how you define personal and common, so NOT hundreds of years and it really didn't take all that long to build up a decent network of gas/petrol stations here in the US. We went from none in 1900 to enough to enable cross country trips by 1925 all without being able to leverage an existing distribution system AKA power lines for electricity.
Many people have an ICE econobox they use for commuting and another car/truck for general trips, replace the econobox with an electric car and it is win/win. Now the price of the electric car needs to competitive with the econobox.
Agree on the nuclear energy being able to mitigate climate change but wondering how GMOs would help. Not a foe of GMOs as I believe GMOs are a net plus and beneficial to the food supply, just trying to figure out how they mitigate climate change.
Trade you my 6mbps CenturyLink line with no hope of ever getting Google Fiber.
The local telco, one of the old school co-ops, was in the process of installing fiber links when CenturyLink bought it and stopped all infrastructure upgrades pending a cost/benefit analysis. Three years ago, seems like we lost the cost/benefit analysis.
vSphere vCenter Web Client requires Flash. You read that right a tool essential to managing today's server environment requires you to install Flash on your management workstation. Even better the newest version has features that can only be accessed through the Web Client.
Much fun explaining to your security guys that you have to have the security-challenged Flash plug-ins on that machine.
You made the point, up to you to provide documentation.
By the way Sevastopol, Cam Rahn Bay and Kant Air Base are all strategic Russian military locations located on foreign and their are numerous more in former Soviet states.
Actually, the USA has over 1,000 military bases abroad.
Citation please? The USA has been happily closing military bases worldwide since 1991, and no short-term locations used to fight the Afghan and Isis do not count as bases for the purposes of an argument about strategic goals.
Not all that different than when I was in college and some of us started playing D&D in the real world. A buddy decided to jump off the top of the dining facility to evade a troll and broke his leg because the snowbank was an ice bank. Sure the scale is smaller but the principle is the same: Some people get carried away when playing games.
No SD slot is what is keeping me from replacing my old Toshiba Excite 10. My use case is previewing photos from the DSLR on the tablet. Much better than using the small built in screen on the camera. Leave the laptop at home and the tablet is much lighter in the bag.
Small use case but definitely a demand among photographers.
Also what happened to the affordable ($300) 10.1" tablets?
A few years back you could buy a decent name-brand 10" tablet for $300. Toshiba made the Excite 10, Samsung and Sony had direct competitors. Now you start at $500 and up for a name-brand 10" tablet, that is laptop territory.
I love the Excite 10 that I bought, two issues Toshiba no longer updates Android for it and refuses to unlock the bootloader so I can install Cyanogenmod.
Colorado Springs has taken to installing speed bumps on some of the streets that non-residents use as short-cuts, definitely slows down traffic. Other approaches are to design neighborhoods with single entrance/exit or have the streets wind about before exiting, thereby significantly increasing travel time and distance. The passive-aggressive approach to traffic control can be very effective.
Motorola, while owned by Google, released a few decent phones that were basically stock Andriod (MotoX, MotoG, MotoE). Also released updates for my MotoG in a timely manner. So far Lenovo hasn't screwed up the phones, no telling whether or not they will continue to release Android updates.
Sensible is relative, look at the geography of Chile, the distances involved and the relations with their neighbors, then get back to me about sensible. In the time it would take to build the lines you would probably go through more than one bubble/downturn in the copper/lithium markets.
Building transmission lines is more than just having the copper available. You need the factories to build the cable, steel for the towers, right of way for the lines. All doable but not something that can be create quickly or easily and do you spin this up for a one time effort.
I love the development of solar energy but too many people forget all the logistics that go into transporting the solar from the best production areas to the consumer. Building the transmission lines from the desert, Atacama/Sahara/Mohave, to the consumers Santiago/Europe/Los Angeles ain't cheap, easy or fast.
You do realize that the copper cable would need to be over 1000 miles long to get to Santiago and Valparaiso. That would be like producing electricity in Oklahoma and using it in Chicago. Canada does it for Hydro produced in northern Quebec but it ain't cheap or easy. T
The real problem with solar is the areas of the world that are the best for producing solar energy are a long way from the population centers that that would consume the energy, requiring the construction of massive power transmission lines, can you say NIMBY, or the creation of some other way to transport the energy, maybe hydrogen if someone can figure out how to scale hydrogen production and the logistics of transportation.
Yes, Germany has many small scale solar production facilities near population centers but for now they are the outlier and yes Cairo is close to the Sahara.
If you look at a map, Chile borders three countries.
Argentina -- you would have to build transmission lines over the Andes, good luck with that. Also the power is in the north of Chile and Argentina borders the more southern parts of Chile. It would make more sense to build long transmission lines to Santiago and that would be over 1000 miles, a damn long transmission line.
Boliva -- The Andes are in the way and Bolivia and Chile still aren't the best of friends. Something about who should own the Atacama mining regions and access to the Pacific. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Peru -- See War of the Pacific and it is still a long haul from the Atacama desert to any Peruvian population centers.
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You're right you said a hundred years but my point stands that it took less than 25 years to grow from zero to a national network of gas station and that included having to build refineries and the logistical infrastructure to deliver the gas to the stations. We already have the production said and distribution network, all we need is the end-point delivery systems. Should be one hell of a lot less of a job to build those charging stations.
How many americans own a second vehicle for just this scenario? Econobox for commuting/taking the kids to school and a Van/Truck for hauling stuff. An awful lot judging by the driveways where I live.
Replace the econobox with an EV the next time you are in the market and the commute is suddenly a lot more environmentally friendly with no change in lifestyle except you not longer need to keep watch for the cheapest gas around.
If 90% of commuters buy EVs you would expect to have economies of scale start to kick in, hopefully reducing the cost of the EV down to the cost of more traditional econoboxes which should offset the loss of government subsidies. You are most likely correct on the tolls and car pool access going away.
If you really want to compare apples to apples, eliminate the subsidies on petroleum and then compare because all those external costs need to be factored into gas costs, you know the cost of the military keeping those shipping lanes open.
Not an EV owner yet but seriously considering for my next commuter vehicle. 50 miles round trip should provide a decent pay back period.
What percentage of people own two vehicles, the econobox for commuting and a Van or Truck for family days or hauling cargo? Here in the US that percentage is pretty damn high.
Replace the ICE econobox with a Leaf or 500e and you have the same scenario only with the EV.
The real problem boils down to infrastructure. We've had a hundred years to build up the infrastructure to refuel IC engine vehicles pretty much anywhere.
Your timeline is a bit off, personal ICE vehicles became common somewhere after 1900, depending on how you define personal and common, so NOT hundreds of years and it really didn't take all that long to build up a decent network of gas/petrol stations here in the US. We went from none in 1900 to enough to enable cross country trips by 1925 all without being able to leverage an existing distribution system AKA power lines for electricity.
Many people have an ICE econobox they use for commuting and another car/truck for general trips, replace the econobox with an electric car and it is win/win. Now the price of the electric car needs to competitive with the econobox.
Agree on the nuclear energy being able to mitigate climate change but wondering how GMOs would help. Not a foe of GMOs as I believe GMOs are a net plus and beneficial to the food supply, just trying to figure out how they mitigate climate change.
Trade you my 6mbps CenturyLink line with no hope of ever getting Google Fiber.
The local telco, one of the old school co-ops, was in the process of installing fiber links when CenturyLink bought it and stopped all infrastructure upgrades pending a cost/benefit analysis. Three years ago, seems like we lost the cost/benefit analysis.
The landline would provide correct E911 information while your cell phone may or may not depending on GPS availability.
vSphere vCenter Web Client requires Flash. You read that right a tool essential to managing today's server environment requires you to install Flash on your management workstation. Even better the newest version has features that can only be accessed through the Web Client.
Much fun explaining to your security guys that you have to have the security-challenged Flash plug-ins on that machine.
GP is right, All the vendors market to the guys wearing stars. If the general likes it then that's what we buy, doesn't matter what the grunts think.
Just look at NMCI, the admirals will tell you it is a huge win, just don't tell that to the 0-4 trying to use it to get his work done.
You made the point, up to you to provide documentation.
By the way Sevastopol, Cam Rahn Bay and Kant Air Base are all strategic Russian military locations located on foreign and their are numerous more in former Soviet states.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Actually, the USA has over 1,000 military bases abroad .
Citation please? The USA has been happily closing military bases worldwide since 1991, and no short-term locations used to fight the Afghan and Isis do not count as bases for the purposes of an argument about strategic goals.
Not all that different than when I was in college and some of us started playing D&D in the real world. A buddy decided to jump off the top of the dining facility to evade a troll and broke his leg because the snowbank was an ice bank. Sure the scale is smaller but the principle is the same: Some people get carried away when playing games.
No SD slot is what is keeping me from replacing my old Toshiba Excite 10. My use case is previewing photos from the DSLR on the tablet. Much better than using the small built in screen on the camera. Leave the laptop at home and the tablet is much lighter in the bag.
Small use case but definitely a demand among photographers.
Also what happened to the affordable ($300) 10.1" tablets?
Jesus saves, but Esposito scores on the rebound.
This is the same reason raising minimum wage causes a net loss in employment.
Except it doesn't see https://www.dol.gov/featured/m... from the Department of Labor.
Serious question: Are you upset because our privacy is at risk or because it makes Obama look bad?
You can be honest, I know people IRL who seem to really care only about rooting for "their guy" and forgive all the bad things.
Both really, the privacy is the big thing but when you have high expectations is hurts even more. Bush I didn't expect much but Obama, I had my hopes.
A few years back you could buy a decent name-brand 10" tablet for $300. Toshiba made the Excite 10, Samsung and Sony had direct competitors. Now you start at $500 and up for a name-brand 10" tablet, that is laptop territory.
I love the Excite 10 that I bought, two issues Toshiba no longer updates Android for it and refuses to unlock the bootloader so I can install Cyanogenmod.
Colorado Springs has taken to installing speed bumps on some of the streets that non-residents use as short-cuts, definitely slows down traffic. Other approaches are to design neighborhoods with single entrance/exit or have the streets wind about before exiting, thereby significantly increasing travel time and distance. The passive-aggressive approach to traffic control can be very effective.
Motorola, while owned by Google, released a few decent phones that were basically stock Andriod (MotoX, MotoG, MotoE). Also released updates for my MotoG in a timely manner. So far Lenovo hasn't screwed up the phones, no telling whether or not they will continue to release Android updates.
Is that intercontinental underwater superconducting power line part of your sci-fi trilogy?
Sensible is relative, look at the geography of Chile, the distances involved and the relations with their neighbors, then get back to me about sensible. In the time it would take to build the lines you would probably go through more than one bubble/downturn in the copper/lithium markets.
Building transmission lines is more than just having the copper available. You need the factories to build the cable, steel for the towers, right of way for the lines. All doable but not something that can be create quickly or easily and do you spin this up for a one time effort.
I love the development of solar energy but too many people forget all the logistics that go into transporting the solar from the best production areas to the consumer. Building the transmission lines from the desert, Atacama/Sahara/Mohave, to the consumers Santiago/Europe/Los Angeles ain't cheap, easy or fast.
You do realize that the copper cable would need to be over 1000 miles long to get to Santiago and Valparaiso. That would be like producing electricity in Oklahoma and using it in Chicago. Canada does it for Hydro produced in northern Quebec but it ain't cheap or easy. T
The real problem with solar is the areas of the world that are the best for producing solar energy are a long way from the population centers that that would consume the energy, requiring the construction of massive power transmission lines, can you say NIMBY, or the creation of some other way to transport the energy, maybe hydrogen if someone can figure out how to scale hydrogen production and the logistics of transportation.
Yes, Germany has many small scale solar production facilities near population centers but for now they are the outlier and yes Cairo is close to the Sahara.
If you look at a map, Chile borders three countries.
Argentina -- you would have to build transmission lines over the Andes, good luck with that. Also the power is in the north of Chile and Argentina borders the more southern parts of Chile. It would make more sense to build long transmission lines to Santiago and that would be over 1000 miles, a damn long transmission line.
Boliva -- The Andes are in the way and Bolivia and Chile still aren't the best of friends. Something about who should own the Atacama mining regions and access to the Pacific. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Peru -- See War of the Pacific and it is still a long haul from the Atacama desert to any Peruvian population centers.