"There really is nothing special or different about the GPL vs standard commercial license with respect to the obligation the user takes on."
That's exactly my point.
From the parent to which I was refering to: "And of course, the GPL terms are much nicer terms than Microsoft puts on a lot of its own code, which are essentially "derive from this or redistribute it in any way, and we'll sue you"" GPL terms are nicer? Nah, jut different. Hence the troll against M$. -------- We'll have to agree to disargee on our definitions of redistribution and private/internal use. I think a company that rolls out internal GPL apps must make the source available to the employees that use said software.
"No, you don't seem to understand the actual mechanism that is broken in the example. It distills down to a changing of the license from the original one that the work was released with to anything else."
GPL programs are just as adament as closed sourced ones about no relicensing. If it's GPL, it stays GPL. If it's closed, it stays closed. Where's the difference? (Only the BSD license.)
Secondly, "internal use"? If you move the GPL app to a secnod box, is that not redistribution? I think the bottom line is, if someone else uses the app, that's redistribution (hence you need to protect their freedom).
From:http://geodsoft.com/opinion/Lice nseIssues.htm 'About the only unequivocally private modification that can be made to GPL licensed software, is for an individual programmer, working at home, to experiment in isolation. As soon as he or she starts to show it to others it becomes a gray area."
And I argee with that. Everything else needs to be court tested.
Laws come and go. Only the code lives on. (But will be rewritten by some punk ass kid with too much time on their hands and then given away in some God awful NeoNapster-esque spyware app).
1) Get rid of all the posers in IT. 2) Get rid of all the posers with MBAs. 3) Get rid of all the bastards with proprietary bullshit. 4) Hold on to your butts, because we can finally get some worthwhile work done again.
Honest days work for an honest days wage is fine with me. Fuck the techie premadonnas.
I have the Sony DRU-120A (DVD+RW / DVD+R) +R(W) is supposed to be nicer because it matches the DVD-ROM spec closers in regards to luminosity, so it would be more useable on older players.
BUT Currently +RW is kind of expensive ($5-$8 / blank?) and +R is flakey: B's Recorder Gold screws up file dates (MAME won't recognize the files). And Nero DVD Burning ROM will work, but only if you hack the registry to make it recognize the drive.
"I wonder if the recent security code change rules this particular development out for Xboxes purchased in the near future."
We'll just have bunnie (or follow in his footsteps) get the new ones: bunnie's adventures hacking the Xbox http://www.xenatera.com/bunnie/proj/anatak/x boxmod.html
How to tell important things to stupid people when you really don't have time, nor care, to worry about their welfare.
Drag your friend into a bar with you. Announce the end of the world in 15 minutes. Tip the bartender really well. (You're not insensitive) Say I "told you so" when the spaceships show up. Hitchhike off the planet at the last second before it's vaporized.
(Stolen of course from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.)
Where'd the memo come from? Who'd they send it too? How did 'Some System Admin' come to get it? Who else touched it before he did?
Hey, how about some real journalism here instead of anti-MS to the 12th degree?
Walmart has Linux PCs, Fry's has Linux PCs. The memo says everyone is now back in the MS monopoly. Is MS just stupid? Do we need another anti-trust case?
Janis Ian's article yesterday summed it up pretty well: "They can fight with compelling value--whether it's built in videos, computer games, free tickets, unique passwords to go download bonus tracks, demo tracks and dance mixes...karaoke tracks for each song, alternate vocal takes... Who could, or would, want to spend the time reproducing all that via downloading?"
So I have a perfect copy of a movie... so what. If the DVD contains 30 minutes more footage and/or full length commentary, then there is a reason to go buy it instead of ripping it with a Tivo.
What's apple got in the hardcore video (hehehe) editting section? I thought they just had some lame tools like Windows Movie Maker in XP. Do they have real professional editting products?
UCD SUX. I hate their CS classes.
But their tech isn't bad (too bad the students never good to hack on anything good like it):
1) Single Sign On (SSO) for Email, RSVP class registration, Student Information System, Lab PCs, etc. They are using Kerberos to hang it all together.
2) They have this crazy idea that we need an "Enterprise Portal" (my.ucdavis.edu) to further innovation and move away from systems based applications to function based applications.
That means that the Banner Student Information System should really just be functional units like class records, add classes, submit grades, etc. Why? Because "Banner" doesn't say anything about what the system is about. Therefore, newbies have a hard time learning it.
http://nba.ucdavis.edu/ -- A New Business Architecture for UC Davis.
And another thing!
Doesn't diversification just make good business since? Putting all your eggs in BSD's basket isn't always wise...
Slackware is very similar to BSD (the rumor is Patrick is a BSD lover), they could have hyped Slackware as the BSD user's Linux. But noooooo! They had to tell them to go fly a kite!
<TROLL>
I'm a troll. I like Slackware. Slackware rocks my world.
Wind River didn't treat Slackware nicely.
After Walnut Creek CDROM become BSDi and then became Wind River, Slackware got the short end of the stick.
Luckily, Slackware found other means of support (distribution channels, CD pressing, order processing, FTP space and bandwidth) quickly enough to survive.
</TROLL>
I'm actually working on some GPL software to run a LAN's intranet as well as the ability to run a LAN online. It's really slow going though. Damn this life around me!
We are currently using www.lanpartyonline.com at our events. It works pretty well. I'm just a control freak and would like more control.
Slashdot Mirror
Good, I'm glad they get it.
Now let's slashdot the 1.5 meg PDF file and have them get it some more.
Text you fools!
Fuck eye candy. 640x480 helps your aim ;).
She was a lot fucking cooler when "Manilla" wasn't plastered everywhere... And userland.com with their $899 web application was a silent partner.
I like what she has to say, not the political bullshit of how the site is ran.
"There really is nothing special or different about the GPL vs standard commercial license with respect to the obligation the user takes on."
That's exactly my point.
From the parent to which I was refering to:
"And of course, the GPL terms are much nicer terms than Microsoft puts on a lot of its own code, which are essentially "derive from this or redistribute it in any way, and we'll sue you""
GPL terms are nicer? Nah, jut different. Hence the troll against M$.
--------
We'll have to agree to disargee on our definitions of redistribution and private/internal use. I think a company that rolls out internal GPL apps must make the source available to the employees that use said software.
"No, you don't seem to understand the actual mechanism that is broken in the example. It distills down to a changing of the license from the original one that the work was released with to anything else."
GPL programs are just as adament as closed sourced ones about no relicensing. If it's GPL, it stays GPL. If it's closed, it stays closed. Where's the difference? (Only the BSD license.)
Secondly, "internal use"? If you move the GPL app to a secnod box, is that not redistribution? I think the bottom line is, if someone else uses the app, that's redistribution (hence you need to protect their freedom).
From:http://geodsoft.com/opinion/Lice nseIssues.htm
'About the only unequivocally private modification that can be made to GPL licensed software, is for an individual programmer, working at home, to experiment in isolation. As soon as he or she starts to show it to others it becomes a gray area."
And I argee with that. Everything else needs to be court tested.
"I don't see why anyone who writes and gives away their own code would want to give them that."
;).
Nice troll against the BSD license
"derive from this or redistribute it in any way (and not give it back to the community), and we'll sue you"
Nice troll against M$ when GPL Lawyers are just as rabid.
Other than the holely examples, spot on.
Basic -> C -> ASM -> C++ -> Java
Where's the problem? OOP without the background does not make very good programmers. It makes Visual Basic programmers with VM's.
"Let's abstract everything! Let's not worry about memory size, program speed, and code reuse!"
Has Unix/C taught you nothing?
#ifdef
\\ Solaris
#ifdef
\\ AIX
#ifdef
\\ HP-UX
etc...
Is no way to code, no way to be portable, and no way to maintain.
You really tweaked the shit out of everything! But now your life is hell.
Have you burned a DVD+R with Nero yet? That's where I ran into trouble.
Laws come and go. Only the code lives on.
(But will be rewritten by some punk ass kid with too much time on their hands and then given away in some God awful NeoNapster-esque spyware app).
Good.
1) Get rid of all the posers in IT.
2) Get rid of all the posers with MBAs.
3) Get rid of all the bastards with proprietary bullshit.
4) Hold on to your butts, because we can finally get some worthwhile work done again.
Honest days work for an honest days wage is fine with me. Fuck the techie premadonnas.
I have the Sony DRU-120A (DVD+RW / DVD+R)
:(.
+R(W) is supposed to be nicer because it matches the DVD-ROM spec closers in regards to luminosity, so it would be more useable on older players.
BUT
Currently +RW is kind of expensive ($5-$8 / blank?) and +R is flakey:
B's Recorder Gold screws up file dates (MAME won't recognize the files).
And Nero DVD Burning ROM will work, but only if you hack the registry to make it recognize the drive.
Linux support? Who knows
"I wonder if the recent security code change rules this particular development out for Xboxes purchased in the near future."
x boxmod.html
We'll just have bunnie (or follow in his footsteps) get the new ones:
bunnie's adventures hacking the Xbox
http://www.xenatera.com/bunnie/proj/anatak/
LDT Bus tap... Mmm!
How to tell important things to stupid people when you really don't have time, nor care, to worry about their welfare.
Drag your friend into a bar with you.
Announce the end of the world in 15 minutes.
Tip the bartender really well. (You're not insensitive)
Say I "told you so" when the spaceships show up.
Hitchhike off the planet at the last second before it's vaporized.
(Stolen of course from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.)
Where'd the memo come from?
Who'd they send it too?
How did 'Some System Admin' come to get it?
Who else touched it before he did?
Hey, how about some real journalism here instead of anti-MS to the 12th degree?
Walmart has Linux PCs, Fry's has Linux PCs. The memo says everyone is now back in the MS monopoly. Is MS just stupid? Do we need another anti-trust case?
Janis Ian's article yesterday summed it up pretty well:
"They can fight with compelling value--whether it's built in videos, computer games, free tickets, unique passwords to go download bonus tracks, demo tracks and dance mixes...karaoke tracks for each song, alternate vocal takes... Who could, or would, want to spend the time reproducing all that via downloading?"
So I have a perfect copy of a movie... so what. If the DVD contains 30 minutes more footage and/or full length commentary, then there is a reason to go buy it instead of ripping it with a Tivo.
If the man truely has massive amounts of boy band MP3s, it's no laughing matter!
You can't code to M'Bop!
From the ChangeLog: :-)
:-)
:)
Sat May 25 12:38:52 PDT 2002
Well folks, we are now at Slackware 8.1-rc1.
Fri Apr 12 02:01:53 PDT 2002
We'll call this Slackware 8.1-beta2.
Who announces beta's/rc's like that?
He only really means it when he makes ISOs.
Bunch of mod_perl trolls slashdot is!o de_w=on&site=slashdot.org
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?mode_u=off&m
The site slashdot.org is running Apache/1.3.20 (Unix) mod_perl/1.25 mod_gzip/1.3.19.1a on Linux.
What's apple got in the hardcore video (hehehe) editting section?
I thought they just had some lame tools like Windows Movie Maker in XP. Do they have real professional editting products?
Yeah, that damn strcat... It's just such a mess! Good thing you overloaded that + for me!
UCD SUX. I hate their CS classes.
;).
But their tech isn't bad (too bad the students never good to hack on anything good like it):
1) Single Sign On (SSO) for Email, RSVP class registration, Student Information System, Lab PCs, etc. They are using Kerberos to hang it all together.
2) They have this crazy idea that we need an "Enterprise Portal" (my.ucdavis.edu) to further innovation and move away from systems based applications to function based applications.
That means that the Banner Student Information System should really just be functional units like class records, add classes, submit grades, etc. Why? Because "Banner" doesn't say anything about what the system is about. Therefore, newbies have a hard time learning it.
http://nba.ucdavis.edu/ -- A New Business Architecture for UC Davis.
The SSO is cool
And another thing!
Doesn't diversification just make good business since? Putting all your eggs in BSD's basket isn't always wise...
Slackware is very similar to BSD (the rumor is Patrick is a BSD lover), they could have hyped Slackware as the BSD user's Linux. But noooooo! They had to tell them to go fly a kite!
Ok, I'll stop now.
<TROLL>
I'm a troll. I like Slackware. Slackware rocks my world.
Wind River didn't treat Slackware nicely.
After Walnut Creek CDROM become BSDi and then became Wind River, Slackware got the short end of the stick.
Luckily, Slackware found other means of support (distribution channels, CD pressing, order processing, FTP space and bandwidth) quickly enough to survive.
</TROLL>
No I'm not bitter. I just like Slackware!
http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/ggs
I'm actually working on some GPL software to run a LAN's intranet as well as the ability to run a LAN online. It's really slow going though. Damn this life around me!
We are currently using www.lanpartyonline.com at our events. It works pretty well. I'm just a control freak and would like more control.