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Innovative Uses for Educational Technology Funds?

RumGunner asks: "I work for a university, and we have a special 'technology' fee that is charged to students, intended to be used for focus on new technology of direct benefit to students either in the classroom or related educational/learning activities. Every semester there is a request for proposals on how to spend this money, and for the most part these proposals are fairly lackluster. Since I know there are a lot of .GOV and .EDU readers on Slashdot, I'm curious to see if anyone has any good ideas for large (or small) scale applications of new technology for the benefit of students?"

232 comments

  1. Well, students will always abuse that... by Guillaume+Ross · · Score: 1, Interesting

    At my school they invested in more bandwith, first thing you know, somebody rooted the server and put warez on the ftp...

    1. Re:Well, students will always abuse that... by Mike+Mentalist · · Score: 0, Funny

      Please use your First Posts in an altogether more proactive and constructive way.

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  2. Multipule T3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    T3's = More Gnutella = More Porn = Happy Comp Science Students

  3. Campus-wide wireless? by Stiletto · · Score: 4, Interesting


    If you have enough money, you can cover the campus with wireless access. This would be good for schools that haven't already wired every dorm and every classroom with CAT5.

    1. Re:Campus-wide wireless? by AltGrendel · · Score: 2

      I would say an encrypted wireless network, but being at an educational institution the encryption setting would be cracked/shared rather quickly.

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    2. Re:Campus-wide wireless? by thedeacon · · Score: 1

      Campus-wide wireless is fine...if the university could subsidize some of the cost of the cards. The U of Akron has campus-wide wireless but...the cards are 140 dollars! They require the Cisco Aironet cards.

      That's a lot considering that tuition has gone up 14.45% from last year (a 9% increase for fall and a 5% increase for spring).

      Considering that there aren't any more sections of classes...I don't feel that I am getting my money's worth. This is what happens when you build prisons instead of putting the money into education. And they wonder why graduates leave Ohio...
      -thedeacon

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    3. Re:Campus-wide wireless? by robertchin · · Score: 2

      Here at the University of Illinois, they're implementing wireless encryption through a Cisco VPN, the client software of which is available for most major operating systems.

    4. Re:Campus-wide wireless? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can get them on pricewatch.com for $85. I'd hardly say that's a big price to pay for decent 11mbps wireless, especially if it's campus-wide like my school.

      PS. Stop bitching. No one cares, really.

    5. Re:Campus-wide wireless? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You realize by major operating systems they mean Win 98, 98SE, NT, and 2k, right? Cisco refuses release any *NIX clients for their VPN hardware, which wouldn't be a problem if they used standard IPSec, but they insist on including a proprietary authentication method after IPSec authentication.

    6. Re:Campus-wide wireless? by RC514 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Wireless networking on the whole campus is nice, of course, but it isn't educational if there is no educational content or projects which make use of the network. Looking at stories about the bandwith demand at universities, I guess the networks are mostly there (although not always wireless), but the on-topic content is missing. I'd say, put the money into virtualizing lecture material and developing new forms of presenting educational material. Some things can be expressed much better in an animation or interactive 3d-model for example, ways of presentation which are usually unvailable today.

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    7. Re:Campus-wide wireless? by James1006 · · Score: 1

      SUNY Morrisville has wireless access across the entire campus. They also have Cat5 in some spots.

      I think they were IBM's "Most Wired Campus", which I would say in the case of wireless is a misnomer. :)

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    8. Re:Campus-wide wireless? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Drexel University has a great technology program, the largest wireless campus (i think) and a raelly usefull technology program. check it out.. www.drexel.edu

    9. Re:Campus-wide wireless? by baronben · · Score: 1

      Oh to have mod points and to give them to a person who deserves them. While the bandwidth greedy part of me wants a gigbit hookup to my room, and a pipe the size of something....large (can you tell I'm not an english major?). But the part of me that wants to learn wishs that there were better virtual classrooms, or at the least audio recordings of lectures and scans of all the notes on a intranet. Thats whats needed, not a network to make my p0rn gathering more efficent, but away to review lectures, or see what you missed.

    10. Re:Campus-wide wireless? by Anarren · · Score: 1

      The problem with this is not abuse...it's non-use. I'm here at Oberlin College, in Ohio, and we have a wireless net for parts of our campus. The idea is great and the development office loves it (read, "good advertising"), but the thing is, its so expensive to get the wireless modem/ethernet cards that essentially no one uses it.
      A better way to use funds would be to provide more help to students who don't have thier own computers. Like longer lab hours and more support staff, and better equipment there. That's my two cents (the rest of my money having gone to Oberlin, including "technology fee").

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    11. Re:Campus-wide wireless? by Vodak · · Score: 1

      What the hell crawled up your ass?? stop your bitching.

    12. Re:Campus-wide wireless? by Joseph+Dale · · Score: 1

      Here's an idea: Set up a campus sponsored mp3 sharing network, and flood it with mp3s containing subliminal messages: "For any integer a not divisible by a prime p, a to the (p minus 1) is congruent to 1 mod p."

    13. Re:Campus-wide wireless? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think that would work. People would just become more afraid of being eaten by a grue.

    14. Re:Campus-wide wireless? by ReinoutS · · Score: 1

      I guess the Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam is not doing so bad then. We have the MultiVLA (Dutch) project for visualisation of molecules etc. It involves 6 beamers and a big empty wall. (think DVD! ;) Students of the new interdisciplinary course Medical Natural Sciences get to use this stuff.

    15. Re:Campus-wide wireless? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, shut the fuck up, please.

    16. Re:Campus-wide wireless? by Playboy3k · · Score: 0

      we hav wirless in out skewl i seem to find it to slow to really do anything on a fixed network wiv a lot of ports its a lot better

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    17. Re:Campus-wide wireless? by scott1853 · · Score: 2

      It could be educational. Have a hacking contest. AFAIK it's still legal to hack your own network. Regardless of your opinions on the overall benefits of hacking, it still requires learning and implementation. It's wrong to strip a car in 20 minutes, but you gotta know what you're doing to make it happen.

      Anyways, even if nobody breaks into any servers or intercepts any transmissions, they'll still have learned a good deal about the protocols and the fundamentals behind how the network/servers work.

    18. Re:Campus-wide wireless? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cisco supports Windows 95>OSR2, Windows 98, Windows ME, Windows NT, Windows 2000, Windows XP, Linux Intel, Solaris UltraSparc-32bit and MAC OS X 10.1 with their unified client framework. The unified client framework is compatible with the VPN 3000 and PIX product family and will soon be supported by IOS as well. The VPN 5000 family also offers MAC, Linux and Solaris VPN clients.

  4. off the top of my head... by feldsteins · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1. online course materials via products like Blackboard (grades, tests, syllabi, lecture notes, discussions, etc)

    2. Wireless networking (encrypted and/or MAC filtered) in libraries and public places

    3. Wireless laptops, either for everyone or for "borrowing" perhaps at the library or other public places.

    4. Intelligent routing to prevent the gnutella users from sucking up all the bandwidth. You can do this without entirely blocking the ports, thus letting it happen but preserving the bulk of the bandwidth for other (presumably more legitimate) uses.

    5. Internet stations placed in public places for general email and web.

    6. IMAP mail (including a Web client) if you currently use POP.

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    1. Re:off the top of my head... by Paradoxish · · Score: 1

      4. Intelligent routing to prevent the gnutella users from sucking up all the bandwidth. You can do this without entirely blocking the ports, thus letting it happen but preserving the bulk of the bandwidth for other (presumably more legitimate) uses. Before anyone bites my head off - I really don't do much file-sharing and I live off campus. These really are just my opinions. So here goes:

      For those living on campus the school's network is the only way to get broadband access. I can't say for sure, but I'm guessing most schools don't allow students to have DSL or cable installed in their dorm rooms. On top of that, don't schools with network running to each room figure that into the cost of living there? It seems generally unfair to penalize students who live on campus by restricting their internet access in anyway. Even more unfair at schools that require students to live on campus freshman year.

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    2. Re:off the top of my head... by feldsteins · · Score: 1

      It's even more unfair to require students to access online course materials and then not provide the network infrastructure to do it. This is precisely the situation we found ourselves in. The culprit? Peer-to-peer filesharing. There was so much of it during certain days/times that nobody could do anything else reliably.

      We blocked the standard ports for the p2p clients and then issued a statement indicating that it was a temporary situation. Then we got to work on the "intelligent routing." Essentially we still allow these activities but there is a limit on the amount of total network bandwidth these activities can use. After setting this up, we reopened the ports.

      I think it's a great solution to a very common problem on university campuses, and quite fair to everyone.

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    3. Re:off the top of my head... by baptiste · · Score: 3, Insightful
      A good starting point, but all but one of your items deals with stuff outside the classroom. I'm the Director of IT for a engineering school in a large university. All told our school is one of the smaller schools in the University, with about 1,000 students. The university is pushing technology, but not to the point of being bleeding edge. Sure they do trials and such, but prefer to be right behind folks on the bleeding edge.

      For example, they are pushing Blackboard hard - just upgraded to the latest version which is much improved. The tricky part is getting faculty on board. Some jump on it, some don't have the time, and some just don't want to (very few) THe interesting part is that professors without course sites are being pressured by the students to get online. This is a good thing - its not that most faculty don't want to get online, they just don't necessarily see the advantage or if they do, aren't sure it's worth the effort or simply don't know whats involved.

      To help with situations like this, we have a university wide division whose entire purpose is working to help join technology with education. They host seminars to help faculty and students take advantage of technology available to them, etc. Even with this valuale resource, it still can be a struggle to get the visibility needed to reach the right people. Blackboard wasn't that great in past years, but the new versions really work to integrate everything and provide the student a portal to their class info as well as developing communities for each class (discussion boards, document repositories, mailing lists, and even grades, practice exams, etc)

      Wireless is a great thing. Our campus is deploying wireless quickly (our school finally got 100% coverage activated this month and a large part of the campus is covered), not just in dorms and educational spaces but in other places like the Quad, student center, etc. Now that the infrastructure is in place, the trick is using it. Many professors are wary of wireless in the classrooms (students surf the web during lectures) while other plan to embrace it. We're only now starting to work to get faculty to propose ideas for integrating wireless technology in teh classrom (say using PDAs and/or laptops to interact with the students, etc) Yes, there will be MUCH trial and error so it may seem like a waste of your money, but at least where I work, the intentions are clear - to use technology to improve the educational experience.

      Email kiosks - another great idea. We're currently working to deploy clusters of kiosks in our common areas using Linux and Shuttle's tiny SV24 box. $750 including a 15" LCD screen and touchpad keyboard - and prices are dropping. We already have high powered clusters of Sun workstations, but they're in rooms that aren't always where the students congregate. Again, we'll trial it and if its successful, deploy more.

      A lot of folks talk about requiring all students to get laptops - may work in some places, but I knwo we've just recently decided NOT to require them. 95% of our students already have computers, though not all are portable. ut forcing folks onto one platform would have caused too much of a backlash.

      On area we are actively researching is the classrooms themselves. Is a PC in a podium with a projector enough? Probably not (though its better than projector slides - we've only got 2 lecture halls with LCD projectors though we have plans to upfit many more of our classrooms in the comin gfew years) Other ideas being tossed about? Laptop carts, interactive classrooms with desktop PCs at each seat tied into a central control console where professors can bring up student screens to some their work as an example (and yes ensure they aren't surfing porn), smartboards which capture notes in realtime and also in files for upload to the class website, etc. The trick is a) figureing out which works best (or perhaps which infrastruture works best with which class) And of course, providing the resources to the faculty so they can adapt their courses for the future. Of course the other fun part is the faculty that don't want to change. At one point whiteboards were put up in place of chalk blackboards - a number of faculty complained so much that the whiteboards are now gone and good old blackboards are back up.

      So its not simple. Its going to take time. remember, educational institutions have limited budgets even when they charge special technical fees. As we all know, the HW is often cheap - the problem is hiring the people to integrate and run it.

      Often the most formidable obstacle to all this is, surprise, communication. SOme folks may already have killer software and apps put together to adapt coursework to new technology, but if its not publicized in a way that others can take advantage of it, things stagnate.

      Of course, this is all infrastructure. As you know, you can have a kick butt webserver, but you need CONTENT. If you spend $100K on retrofitting a classroom, it'll be useless until faculty have material that takes advantage of it and developing that material takes time. Sure, they can easily convert notes into Powerpoint slides - but thats no differnet than tossing premade transparencies onto an overhead - just more colorful. But imagine a class where the professor has interactive programs to demonstrate concepts, video clips showing phenomenon, feedback mechanisms where he/she can quiz the class on the current topic and based on their answers (push button a, b, c, or ,d), know if they are grasping it or if he/she needs to explain it further.

      This sounds like pointy head boss speak - but see if your school has a committee or organization looking at technology in education. We do and it works well. Granted its not speedy, but they deal with a number of the pressing issues related to technology in education. Their minutes and discussion papers are posted monthly. But feedback is limited. So see whats already going on at your school and make suggestions - they may get acted on - you never know! I know for us, all teh feedback we get is from faculty, not students. We have a single student rep on the committee, but our site allows for student feedback - we don't get much. If you like or don't like something being done, find out who runs the program and let them know. Be professional, but explain why something is or isnt' working - its the only way they know somethings up so they can try to improve it (or drop it all together)

      I know from where I sit, we're working on infrastructure. But the problem is classic chicken and egg. We don't have material already so we don't knwo what infrastrcture we need and we don't want to spend millions on the wrong type of equipment. So trial and error is the name of the game. Its slow, but hopefully we can identify the right mix and then push it out rapidly.

      No, I didn't come up with lots of new ideas, but right now all we have time to worry about right now is infrastructure and limited trials. The good news is the administration is holding millions in reserve/placeholders to spend the money where we prove it will work best - so technical improvement in education will happen, but its not gonna be a Net speed!

    4. Re:off the top of my head... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the state I live, a few years back the governer wired the every school in the whole state (including the unversity I work at) using state prisioners as extremely cheap labor (.25 an hour, I think).

      So wiring the dorms didn't cost us all that much. The problem we have is we have a VERY fat pipe out into the internet, but it was almost always saturated. Traffic analisys showed us (you guessed it!) that it was almost all 80%+ file sharing of one form or another.

      We didn't want to play police to our students, but we didn't want filesharing to stop legitimate use either... so we segmented out the dorms, and put a cap of 50% on their bandwith coming out of their segment to the internet.

      This then made the amount of bandwith used a problem for those who lived in the dorms. People could definatly tell that the network was slow. Further analisys showed us that it just a handfull of people who used most of the bandwith.

      So... we gave traffice analysis to each dorm, and let their residence hall association members police those people... basically, a heart-to-heart with the offending parties.

      It has worked out fairly well.

      Everyone turned out pretty happy. One of the things we've found is that most people are fairly uneducated to the concept of bandwith, and a little education along with a sense of community (i.e., we must share or we will all suffer) has helped considerably. Perfect? No... much better than before? Yes. And it has stopped us, the administration, from having be big brother.

    5. Re:off the top of my head... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      We blocked the standard ports for the p2p clients and then issued a statement indicating that it was a temporary situation. Then we got to work on the "intelligent routing." Essentially we still allow these activities but there is a limit on the amount of total network bandwidth these activities can use. After setting this up, we reopened the ports. I think it's a great solution to a very common problem on university campuses, and quite fair to everyone.

      Yes, that's pretty fair. Unfortunately, most universities that block these ports (like mine) leave them blocked permanently. I guess the administrators are too busy/lazy to do it right. It would be nice if somebody would post some code, config files, or instructions on how to set this up, so other universities could implement it.

    6. Re:off the top of my head... by Monkelectric · · Score: 1
      Those are good suggestions ... but theres clearly only one thing that can be done, neigh, must be done!

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    7. Re:off the top of my head... by ink · · Score: 2

      1. online course materials via products like Blackboard (grades, tests, syllabi, lecture notes, discussions, etc)

      Done.

      2. Wireless networking (encrypted and/or MAC filtered) in libraries and public places

      Done; and the wireless is in most campus buildings.

      3. Wireless laptops, either for everyone or for "borrowing" perhaps at the library or other public places.

      We have laptops to loan out, and students can get free wireless cards for their own laptops, so "done".

      4. Intelligent routing to prevent the gnutella users from sucking up all the bandwidth. You can do this without entirely blocking the ports, thus letting it happen but preserving the bulk of the bandwidth for other (presumably more legitimate) uses.

      We have a Packeteer shaper, so "done".

      5. Internet stations placed in public places for general email and web.

      That's been done for years already.

      6. IMAP mail (including a Web client) if you currently use POP.

      That's been done for a long time as well. What do we do now? In the midst of a buget crisis (Idaho State University), we have spent a ton of money on technology. We are now installing these useless "smart boards" that came with state-of-the-art laptops that can copy the contents down (let me tell you, facutly are just lining up to take notes for their students [sarcasm]). It seems we may have too much money for technology? Is there nothing left?

      We also just finished installing our first all-Linux lab for the computer science department (yay!). We could have spent more money if we had used Windows, I suppose...

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    8. Re:off the top of my head... by blerg · · Score: 1

      As an active member of the Engineering Dept., wouldn't your main priority be to set up a streaming broadcast of lectures straight to the University Bar/Pub thereby eliminating the need for students/faculty members from ever having to leave?

    9. Re:off the top of my head... by baptiste · · Score: 2
      As an active member of the Engineering Dept., wouldn't your main priority be to set up a streaming broadcast of lectures straight to the University Bar/Pub thereby eliminating the need for students/faculty members from ever having to leave?

      LOL - That would boost our rankings! :) Seriously though, the University does have a streaming server already. Though its not used as much as it could be. As for the pub, nah, we have 'socials' (read kegger) every couple weeks at the engineering building - makes for a nice end to the week. Even we pointy head Administrators get invited :)

    10. Re:off the top of my head... by Craigj0 · · Score: 1

      Internet staions can be good but don't be like my university please give people a chair. And dont limit it to intranet access. By doing these two things our kiosks lasted about 6 months before they were removed due to lack of use.

    11. Re:off the top of my head... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I'm an instructor at a post secondary institute and I have to say that there are some fundamental problems with giving students laptops and wider bandwidth that eclipse the educational advantage.
      • First mistake is that giving someone a PC does not make them computer literate.
      • The vast majority of students (ages 17-50+) that I teach don't have a clue how to use a PC.
      • Valuable class room time is lost in the technology enhanced labs while 1/4 of the students are trying to setup and connect their laptops to the network. I don't have the time or mandate in my non-PC/networking courses to help these students.
      • Take a walk through a class that has the student's using laptops. Don't be surprised if you find 1/4 to 1/2 of the students browsing the Internet, checking email or just basically wasting their time
      • Everyone is jumping on the eLearning bandwagon saying its the best thing to happen since sliced bread but in reality it is just correspondence courses with a new look. Correspondence courses sucked, why doesn't eLearning suck - it saves the schools money and looks hi-tech that's why.
      • Computer based learning only addresses one of the four learning styles: visual. What about the other 3/4 of the student population who are audible, thinking and doers or combinations of these?
      • The idea of technology enhanced classrooms for the delivery of material is a joke. Not only does the instructor has to be an expert in his field but he has to learn how to manage and manipulate the smart whiteboard, elmo projector, overhead projection system and laptop while keeping some semblance of continuity of material. This may seem trivial to some reading this but if you ever had to give presentations for 6 hours per day on 3 different topics in front of large crowds, you most likely understand the problems in delivery.
      • Who's going to pay to have my last 7 years of traditional teaching methods transferred to this new media. It's worked perfectly fine using an overhead projector and a whiteboard. The course objectives were thoroughly covered and the students were happy. I sure won't work for free and convert everything over just for the latest fad.

      I first wrote about Using the Internet in 1993 and gave seminars about using it. The problems that I identified in 1993 are still here and still haven't been addressed.
  5. wireless by m00nshyn3 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    if your university doesn't have wireless internet access in at least the student common areas, you could look into it. on a larger scale you can use the money to investigate a campus wide wireless setup. this involves some non-obvious costs such as researching building materials that block/channel signals so you can use the buildings as antennas and shields.

    1. Re:wireless by pinqkandi · · Score: 1

      a word of warning:

      at the school where i used to work on the network, one of the upper level (and some what ignorant) network admins jumped into wireless access. plan it out carefully first; he quickly saturated the main base station, and made all the computers using it attained ridiculously low speeds. due to this, the school heads (principals, etc; not network people) wrote off wireless access as a dead loss, and will not look into expanding it.

      so in other words, be careful to make the wireless systems equal to the wired computers. the non-network people don't care how cool & tech it is, just how well it works. if our school had given it a fair chance, it would have been incredible. but they didn't give it that chance...

  6. Network drives by James1006 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Giving every student an account on a Samba server they can reach from anywhere on campus would be good.

    It would eliminate the need for floppies and such.

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    1. Re:Network drives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any school that's not technologically inept has had SMB access to their fileservers forever.

    2. Re:Network drives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Erm, I'm at Cambridge, UK and there are no SMB shares available. We use NFS.

    3. Re:Network drives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's exactly what we have on our campus. 50 megs per student. of course, there's ways around that. and of course, there are students who never know they have 50 free megs and use those stupid floppies anyway.

      spend the money on getting rid of floppies!

    4. Re:Network drives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Samba? Mmmm, no...

      AFS for me, thanks :)

  7. kinda hard.. by harakh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    .. to give any direct advice since you didnt specify how large this budget is and what kinda stuff you already have at the university but..
    Personally i study at a university and things that i would like to have improved are the amounts of terminals around campus to check email from.. Maybe somekinda thin-client/server system that allows you to access the uni-servers to check mail/news (slashdot ;)).
    Also i doubt that very many universities have enough of they're lecture data on the web - which is really helpful. If the budget is large enough you could hire someone or a few persons to help the lecturers that arent so computer-literate to "digitize" lecture materials and extra material aswell as make good homepages for the courses with links to relevant sites etc. We have those on some of the courses and they are great! More of those would be really neat - preferrably from all courses.

    ... Just a few kind suggestions - please be gentle :)

  8. Wireless network by km790816 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Iowa State has just deployed a wireless network on campus. It's been a joy to use, especially with my iPAQ. Although the academic benefits are debatable, it's certainly nice to be able to check Slashdot and use messenger during a boring lecture.

    The network is deployed in common meeting areas and in large lecture halls. I can't wait for spring so I can sit outside the library and check my email.

    I'm sure there are some cool things that can be done with a lecture hall full of people with connected laptops...I'm just waiting for someone tell me.

    1. Re:Wireless network by zaffir · · Score: 1

      LAN party :)

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  9. Database. by MindStalker · · Score: 5, Informative

    How about implimenting a .net/passport (but secure, and encrypted from admin eyes) style of database network. Where students can not only sign up for classes on the computers, which they can currently do in most universities, but can use this database to hold thier entire schedule of anything and everything they want and need to do. This database can be access anywere and everywhere on multiple types of devices, and teachers can input info into a students schedule as reminders in a safe secure way. The possibilies are endless. But as such a system is common in the workplace, getting students used to such a system, and getting computer students to create and admin such a system would provide many after college benifits.
    And have an open idea policy, especially amoung the computer students, so that they can impliment any enterprise solutions they can think of. And wireless, definatly wireless.

    1. Re:Database. by James1006 · · Score: 1

      Most universities have this, in the form of online access to records and then seperate packages like Blackboard.

      However, the briding of the two really needs to be done and to be done seamlessly.

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    2. Re:Database. by Rebel+Patriot · · Score: 1

      What you're talking about is Lotus Notes. It's rather expensive, but does practiaclly everything you've mentioned and then some.

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  10. Little innovation right now + many lazy people = by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There's very little "new technology" coming out, scheduled every semester, that benefits students. Five years ago, just having computer labs probably would have been sufficient. These days, when the students all own computers, pagers, and cell phones, all the University can really do is provide connectivity.

    There's no new technology that will allow the students to learn more, faster, and have a higher comprehension.

    There is, however, scant use of existing technology. Why aren't all syllabi online? Can't past lecture notes and sample tests be posted online? How come half the universities still make students stand in line to sign up for classes? Why do you have to wander around with a slip of paper to drop or add a class? How come so few classes are taught online? I'm not meaning real-time, but a learn-at-your-own-pace? People like me, who have jobs and families and no good University nearby, want to take extra classes, and have the money, but can't find anyplace reputable to offer the courses.

    There's little innovation because most people don't get what to do with it, or they aren't willing to spend the time to do it. I know of 3 dozen professors who received grants to make their classes available online, and in the end, all they had was about 20 pages of static HTML pages, which were never updated, became stale, and then were removed from being online when the web server was upgraded.

    I'll end this with the worst funding request I ever read (and you're going to read it all):

    "Here's a list of the things we want. (You don't need anything more than this, do you?)"

    Attached was an excel spreadsheet with items and prices.

  11. Re:Here's a tip by Guillaume+Ross · · Score: 0

    Well I'd be tempted to say that whatever you do don't hire MCSEs, THEIR time should be worth nothing.

  12. stuff to do with it by rockclimbingtech · · Score: 0

    1.) better security software
    2.) PDA's for kids
    3.) nicer mousepads
    4.) novelty-colored serial cables
    5.) typing programs with gnomes
    ... at least that's what my damn school spent it on...

  13. Linux workstations! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Invest money in fast linux workstations... No university I have visited has linux workstations. They're all Sun Solaris on Sun hardware, or something similar. Go for Athlon with Red Hat or something, I'd say...

    1. Re:Linux workstations! by SirNAOF · · Score: 1

      UW-Madison's College of Engineering just got a bunch of linux boxes. Very nice. P4s, piles of memory...sweet machines. However, this is only for the College of Engineering, not the entire university. DoIT has no linux support that I know of. I called once to report problems with their DHCP server...when the guy asked my OS and I replied linux, he suddenly couldn't hear me...the phone mysteriously died...

      --
      Jeremy Baumgartner
    2. Re:Linux workstations! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you must not get out much.. linux is in pretty much every computer science lab I have ever been to. Granted those computers are usually dual-boot and they spend 99% of their time in Windows 2000, but it's there in any case...

  14. top of the line innovation: by augros · · Score: 4, Insightful

    you can't beat this: stop charging them the tech fee. i paid it all four years and got nothing but crappy half-implemented services like "blackboard" (an assignment/notice/expensive software that only CS professors were willing to use/schedule web application). here's my advice, if you don't know what you're charging a fee for -- don't charge it!!! how would you like a government-gizmo-thingy-tax?

    1. Re:top of the line innovation: by augros · · Score: 1

      let me clarify my position a bit: yes, a fee would be fine if the proceeds are to be used legitimately for known needs known in ADVANCE that cannot be met via tuition. although these ARE rare, some schools need to charge a fee for a good connection, computer paper, or for software that they believe that they will need, and don't have enough funds from tuition. but charging a fee and then saying, "now what are we gonna blow our cash on THIS year?" is just wrong.

    2. Re:top of the line innovation: by Inzite · · Score: 1

      Hey augros. Love your sig. Would have sent this to you directly, but your e-mail wasn't public. However, I must say that your sig doesn't seem entirely accurately. I think it's more like spitting in the wind.

      If you don't go in just the right direction, your comments come back to haunt you (with interest).

  15. Students pay more at university? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This may be a little off-topic but should a university really pay a 'technology' fee on top of their original fee's - as I go to a British university ( and a very good one at that ) I'm used to complaining about the £1075 pounds a year I pay for fee's. Students should have resources needed for a course provided to them.

    Oh if you had to spend it a cluster of machines dedicated to Operation Flashpoint would be good.

  16. Not really ideas, but receptive staff by da3dAlus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm one of 5 student members on the final Tech Fee committee at my university (SPSU). One of the problems we've run into isn't the lack of good ideas, but the lack of faculty/staff on the lower committees that shoot down some good ideas before we on the upper committee get to vote on them. Granted, I've seen some frivolous proposals for stuff that we really don't need, and I would vote them down in order to get more long-term projects funded that will benefit more students. For example, it took us 2 meetings just to decide whether or not to fund a 3D printer for rapid prototyping in the MET dept. It was a large ticket item, but it would make things so much easier for the students to make a quick prototype instead of the time-consuming milling of a real part.
    The biggest ideas that I see coming up this year are requests for wireless access in student common areas, and increased funding for lab staff (so we can keep the brand new labs open longer). Hopefully this year we'll see the students submit more proposals, as the most we commonly see are requests from faculty and staff. (We divide the available funds into thirds, for IT, Academics, and Students--and the students section always comes up short with proposals.)

    --

    Sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion.
  17. More Bandwidth! by Nemith · · Score: 1

    If you make the pipe bigger, they will fill it.

    All a college student wants is more bandwidth to download thier divx, mp3's, and warez. So do the right choice and invest in some dark fiber links!

  18. Give the Money Back by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your university is taking money from its students and having trouble figuring out what to do with it. The answer is simple. Give the money back to the students.

    Wow.

  19. Why not give the money back? by Bruenor · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I know that this will probably be a completely foreign idea for anyone in education or government, but why not give the money back?

    If you have to ask on Slashdot on how you should spend the money then I can only imagine one of two situations. Either your technology infrastructure has everything you need out of it, or you/your staff are unable to see what it needs and you should find jobs you are more suited to.

    If it is the former, then why not refund the money back to the students who paid it? As a current taxpayer and recent student I am sick and tired of the waste of my money that occurs in the system by people spending money whimsically on unneeded expenditures. I'm sure those of your students that are working hard to pay their way through school would agree with me.

    I can only speak from a U.S.A. perspective, but schools and government both seem to suffer under the idea that they ought to spend our money not because they need it, but because they can. The thought that you need to look for blue sky projects to spend the money on just because you have it sickens me.

    1. Re:Why not give the money back? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      At my school, we can fill out a form and request a refund on our technology fee. It's only $40 out of our ~$5000 tuition, but people are happy when they get it, and act like it's a gift from the university ("free money!").

      I always get my fee back, because I know when the school spends money on "lab upgrades", they're probably spending a large portion of that money licensing software they don't need (like upgrading every computer on campus from Word 95 to Word 97 - I doubt most of the students would even notice the difference, especially since many of them only use the labs for Internet access).

    2. Re:Why not give the money back? by njug · · Score: 1

      I think you're being a bit unfair. A vital part of budgeting and implementation of new solutions is evaluating options. So the last project was completed. In order to keep providing students with the best possible service, then new projects need to at least be considered. If you left it up to some administrators, then a lab of 6 pentiums might well be "everything we need out of it."

      This is one of those areas that requires constant revision and reevaluation. It would be irresponsible to _not_ see what other universities and other people are doing, to see if anything can be learned by that.

      If, at the end of a re-evaluation, it is discovered that there's nothing that would benefit students and instructors on which to spend money, then, perhaps, you can find a way to refund the money.

      I am sorry that you are sickened by a person attempting to solicit ideas from the broader community on how to improve his campus. It seems to me just the thing a responsible administrator should do. Oftentimes, you don't know that you need something until you find it. When my undergraduate school put up the classes server (homebrewed WebCT/Blackboard-equivalent) four or five years ago, only two or three professors had any idea what to do with it. After the years of development, though, 70% of courses have materials there, and hundreds of students access them on a daily basis. Had no one looked around and said, "well, would it be worthwhile to explore this solution?" five years ago, the university would just now be trying to implement something, leaving it far behind its peers and without the infrastructure to meet the demand of students who like to have everything available on-line.

      Having that consistent funding gives workers the flexibility to try new things and innovate.

    3. Re:Why not give the money back? by el_chicano · · Score: 1
      ...why not refund the money back to the students who paid it? As a current taxpayer and recent student I am sick and tired of the waste of my money that occurs in the system by people spending money whimsically on unneeded expenditures.
      How about some examples? Every right-wing Ditto-head I have met claims that there is government waste left and right, but how come so few of them have specific examples to back up their assertions?
      --
      A man who wants nothing is invincible
    4. Re:Why not give the money back? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Universities demanding that non-resident students be allowed to continue to pay resident tuition?

  20. Invest in open source by MobyDisk · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Use the money to pay students to work on open source projects. This kind of stuff would be a win-win-win: student gets paid, university gets useful software, open-source grows.

    Example: My college needed an emulator to teach assembly language to students, and I SOOO wanted them to have an undergrad build one and open source it.

    1. Re:Invest in open source by dbremner · · Score: 1

      You could use the SPIM MIPS R3000 emulator. Available for Linux, Windows, and others.

      --

      Life is a psychology experiment gone awry.
  21. Re:d00d.. by lintux · · Score: 0

    PFwahh!! Debian supports more than just Linux. You can even run it on NetBSD or The HURD. Not that they are very stable now already, but I can get rid of Linux soon, I hope.

    Hint: 2.4.15-greased-turkey. Don't mod me down for one of Linus' brown paper bag bugs..

  22. ask the students by jman+sr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    After all, the money does come from them. Try putting up feedback pages on your website and see what areas the students feel are lacking in your IT department.

    Secondly, do research on whatever you decide to do, and then discuss it with the students in some way. My school attempted to implement a one laptop for every person policy-- until they announced it to the students. The students protested so loudly that the plan has since been put on the backburner, indefinately.

  23. Laptops. by taliver · · Score: 1

    Let's assume that the fee is setup like ours is here: $100/semester.

    Now, I'm sure a large school could get a deal with dell/compaq/hp for say $800 - 4x$200. If the student leaves early, they either turn their laptop in or they pay the rest for it. Otherwise, it's theirs.

    --

    I demand a million helicopters and a DOLLAR!

    1. Re:Laptops. by ddillman · · Score: 2, Informative
      You're sure, are you? Obviously you know nothing about it. Since I work (IT staff) in a Technical College that now has several programs using exclusively laptop computers, I think I have a clue here.

      First problem with your 'idea' is $800. Any laptop you're gonna get for $800 is not worth the effort currently. Second problem: Even if you get that $800 laptop now, it'll be well obsolete long before the end of that 4 years. Realistic laptop costs are still over $2000 for something worthwhile that will last long enough to be worth the trouble. Don't forget, you'll need to add infrastructure to support those laptops, either wireless or wired jacks somewhere, preferably many somewheres. Oh, and staff? Add at least one or two IT staff members to support those folks.



      Now, if you're talking a public sector institution, you're likely going to also have to deal with a public bid situation for who gets to sell you the laptops. Better cut your specifications pretty tight, or you might end up with some fly-by-night vendor that can't support you. Even for major vendors, arrange spares on-hand, because overnight shipping frequently isn't, and students paying that kind of money for a laptop will get pissed in a hurry if they don't get to use it. Oh, and are you leasing, or purchasing? If leasing, is it a buyout lease, or Fair Market Value? We did a FMV, and found out that if we still wanted to buy them it would be $1000 per unit after two years. I don't think those units are still worth $1000. This issue only gets worse after 4 years.



      I could come up with more, but that should at least give some idea of the problems faced when we went through this.

      --
      Little girls, like butterflies, need no excuse. -- L. Long
    2. Re:Laptops. by taliver · · Score: 1

      Here is a laptop for $1000. Just one. The first I could find.

      At our school, the $100/semester is expicity towards equipping the computing centers in the University, and making sure that they have enough systems for everybody. The support staff is paid for by other monies.

      Now, I'm not going to attempt to solve the "Low-bidder" or "Bad-spec" jobs-- these are completely different and impossible problems that happen any time money is spent. And as for "being obsolete" -- what does that matter? If a laptop is useless in 4 years, who care? Exactly what can you buy that will not be obsolete in 4 years?

      And as for people and maintenance, I'm not saying that the University needs to run an exchange program, just have the students deal with the manufacturer and have a waranty. if they break it, they pay for the next one. No big deal.

      Yes, there are problems, but it should be looked at as a solution, even if it means all the cushy IT people might have to have there hours cut.

      --

      I demand a million helicopters and a DOLLAR!

    3. Re:Laptops. by ddillman · · Score: 1
      A $1000 laptop doesn't have enough horsepower or features (in my experience) to be worth the purchase for a business or educational setting. For a home user with specific needs that are met, sure, but when you get scads of these for differing programs, you need to get a model that is adequate for all involved. Also, it should have enough horsepower that it is not a pain in the ass to use after year or two. In my experience, again, that $1000 laptop will be basically junk after one or two years, let alone the 4 years originally proposed here.

      The only reason I talked about the residual value after 4 years was because the original post used it as a plus point. It's not a plus, because the machine will be so obsolete.

      As for cushy IT people, have you looked at any salary surveys? IT positions in Education are virtually always the lowest sector for pay. Cushy. Bah!

      I'm not saying laptops shouldn't be looked at. What I'm saying is the original post showed an almost total cluelessness as to what is actually involved, and realistic costs and viability esitmates.

      --
      Little girls, like butterflies, need no excuse. -- L. Long
  24. think low-tech by whiteben · · Score: 1
    I'm sure there will be many suggestions of cutting edge technology: wireless, giving every student a Palm, etc.


    I think it's important to remember that most students aren't interested in the cutting edge. They want stuff which just works. (This is why people use Windows and Macs.) Sure, you could give students a palm-sized Wifi-enabled device but then what? Too few students are nerdy enough to use it. Heck, a significant percentage of them don't even own their own computer and are very content to type their semiotics papers at a nearly computer cluster.


    Perhaps a better use of the tech money would be something like recording lectures and posting them in a popular streaming-media format for later playing. This would be immediately accessible to everyone, not just those students who want to screw with SSIDs.


    The point is this: /. readers don't like to contemplate the lowest common denominator -- it reminds them of Windows. But to use the money to cater to just the CS or EE students sounds like a waste.


    BEN

  25. Re:Little innovation right now + many lazy people by SigmundK · · Score: 1, Interesting

    i think that there's one cheap thing that can be given to all p2 laptops w/ wireless pcmcia running gnu/linux that is my suggestion

  26. TWiki Web by Robert+Frazier · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I experiment here. Why should you decide at all? Give them a TWiki web (wiki web), and see what they do with it. The idea, I take it, is to give them room to take chances, to explore and to make mistakes.

  27. Not eBooks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My .edu tried deploying classes with eBooks. No buy-the-book-instead option, eBook only, same price as print, chock full of DRM. Very costly experiment for us, and students are livid.

    Pardon the anonymous post. I like my school, and would hate to see this one incomprehensible decision reflect poorly on them.

  28. charging too much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Obviously if you are charging students a tech. fee and you don't have a plan for all the money you have charged too much. consider lowering the fee. I find that some technology actually hinders education. It is often times a distraction. I go to the liabrary, there are terminals there, I go to the student center, there are terminals there... You can't get away from it. People should be able to interact with out technology, teachers shouldn't use powerpoint (it makes boring presentations ever worse), putting course information on the web is a painful attrocity (especially if everyone has to use it and the system is not powerful enough). Technology is not always enough to make a school a better place.

  29. Open source educational groups by aero6dof · · Score: 0

    Check out the mailing lists at SchoolForge and SEUL/Edu to get in touch with a group of educators (and other interested parties) who are very familiar with open source educational technologies. They will be able to discuss any options you have in depth (At least more than a slashdot forum discussion :)

  30. I'd rather pay a small fee... by archnerd · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...than put up with my status quo. Allow me to outline it briefly:
    - The school board turned down a request for a $100 budget allocation in order to buy more computer paper by the head of our school's computing department. Now, if you want to print anything, you need to bring your own paper.
    - All computers in the school share a single ISDN line. At peak times, i.e. the only times that we're allowed to be in the media center, we get a throughput of about 5 bytes per second.
    - Except for a few iMacs that were donated last year, all the computers are 486s with 8mb of memory, running win95.
    - The school was awarded $100 per student for being an "A" school. There was a referendum among the faculty as to whether to spend 90% on bonuses and 10% on technology, or 100% on bonuses. I'll leave it to you to guess how that turned out.

    Basically, at the high school level, technology is essentially a zero budget operation. I would MUCH rather pay an annual fee for the right to use the computers than put up with what we have now.

  31. Re:Little innovation right now + many lazy people by Doctor+Faustus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Online class availability seems to depend on your major. As far as I can see, private business schools (even non-profit) are pretty good about this, and seem to assume that their students are working. Public schools aren't like this, and my private technical university isn't like that.

    My wife's an accounting major at Davenport University, and she has plenty of online classes available. One of my coworkers is an IT major at the same school, and hasn't gone to a classroom for two years. I, however, am a CS major at Lawrence Tech. U., and it appears that the only class I could take online is "Technical and Professional Communications", which is required for all students. Even for that class, though, you still have to show up four times for presentations.

    I think Eric (the IT major) still has to go to campus occasionally for administrative stuff, but otherwise he might as well be taking the classes from Hong Kong.

  32. Spend it on people! by melquiades · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It seems like almost all of these lackluster "tech in education" ideas are focused on hardware -- and totally miss the point, not only of technology in the classroom, but of how all learning works. While it is a disgrace that so many schools have such out-of-date technology, it's much more a disgrace that so much technology, so costly to schools, is essentially useless.

    At colleges and universities, hardware has a clear purpose: students need to do research and write papers. There's a very high demand for that, even if technology isn't playing a direct role in education. And even there, it's often the case that hardware-focused programs waste money.

    But in K-12 education, this problem is huge. It's one of the many bitter jokes behind Microsoft's school donation proposal: you can't just plop a lot of hardware in the middle of a school and expect magic.

    Guess what? Computers do not magically make learning happen. Students aren't going to get anything out of computers unless either (1) they have an engaged, tech-savvy teacher who finds ways to use computers effectively as a teaching tool, or (2) they have the opportunity to experiment on their own, without having the computers locked off, crippled, or kept off limits for unstructured learning. For hardware to be useful, students need available expertise and, above all, access.

    So, I'd suggest spending tech dollars on people. I'm thinking mostly of K-12 here:
    • Hire non-paranoid sysadmins who know enough about security to open up computers for student use. If technology is inaccessible, due to either technological or physical controls, it's a waste. Students need to be able to experiment to learn.

    • Give teachers technology training (if they want it -- don't shove it down their throats).

    • Bring in full- or part-time experts in technology fields to teach technology subjects: programming, graphic design, desktop publishing, system administration. Bring them into the rest of the curriculum, so that (for example) if students are publishing a magazine, they have access to the desktop publishing person.

    • Such experts are often (obviously) expensive. But there are many decent people who are willing to volunteer part-time. Hire a technology volunteer coordinator, and give them a budget they can do something with.

    • And, for heaven's sake, pay teachers a decent salary.
    1. Re:Spend it on people! by Jugomugo · · Score: 0

      I work for a K-12 school corporation near Purdue. We have a great technology budget, and one technician at each building. We hardly have any hardware/software problems anymore with the additional staffing. The problem I see is that the teachers either don't want to, or don't know how to use the software and equipment available to them. They request the newest and best stuff all the time, but when they get it, they don't use it. We have been trying to figure out ways to get the teachers to use the wealth that is available. I would like to see the school implement a students teaching teachers program. have high school students that are familiar with technology teach the teachers how to use it. The students could get paid/get credit for their teaching.

      But no one listens to me but the network admin, and his hands are a bit tied by the school board and the teachers unions. Damn politics.

      --
      "In a cat's eye, all things belong to cats."
    2. Re:Spend it on people! by dermusikman · · Score: 1

      I agree! well-spoken.
      As I was leaving high school, some self-seeking politician had decided to "put a computer in every classroom!" So they went through the trouble of doing just that... the result?
      The sole use of this vast network was taking class attendance, and 80% of the teachers couldn't even accomplish that! The biggest problem in any network is the ignorance of its users - educate the users.
      Go out and tell the people!

      der_m

    3. Re:Spend it on people! by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They cant / wont.

      I applied several times to K-12 schools, large K-12 schools to be the sysadmin/netadmin/it/is guy. There are hundreds of offers out there and hundreds of jobs out there for this position, even right now they are there.. problem is that the schools want to pay about the same that McDonalds or burger King pay's for someone to say "you want fries with that?" but expect 15 years expierience (one I saw and made me die laughing said "requires 5 years expierience with windows 2000") and some even try to require BS or MS in computer science. and these positions are NEVER full time. they are 20 hrs a week part time so they can avoid giving you benifits.

      the K-12 schools who have a clue hire a real fulltime person, or have an awesome CS teacher who does it, or even better, has a student run IT department...(yes dorothy it can happen and happen well) but they are very very rare.

      Problem is that many teachers unions also BLOCK hiring of these tech people or impose insane restrictions.(and the salary is part of that too!)

      Getting more people in the K-12 schools to manage the technology is great, it's an awesome idea. but it wont happen until you get state or federal mandates forcing the schools to put a person there. Because they would rather increase the coach's salary or spend it on new shiny sports gear instead of trying to actually educate the children.

      --
      Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
    4. Re:Spend it on people! by melquiades · · Score: 4, Insightful

      problem is that the schools want to pay about the same that McDonalds or burger King pay's for someone to say "you want fries with that?" but expect 15 years expierience

      K-12 schools are invariably on a completely unworkable budget. Thus the "bitter irony" of Microsoft's school donation plan, and so many other technology grants: how much good can it do to plop machines the middle of a school when the facilities are in disrepair, the administration is understaffed, the classes are large, and teachers are underpaid?

      It's true, both K-12 schools and their donor often fail to understand the true costs of technology.

      Problem is that many teachers unions also BLOCK hiring of these tech people or impose insane restrictions.(and the salary is part of that too!)

      Thus the last item in my list -- "for heaven's sake, pay the teachers a decent salary". When the salary pool is way too small, there will be bitter battles over it, and you end up with these silly things that teachers' unions do. Have you ever heard of a programmers' union imposing a restriction like this on the salaries of sysadmins? ;)

    5. Re:Spend it on people! by melquiades · · Score: 2

      But no one listens to me but the network admin, and his hands are a bit tied by the school board and the teachers unions. Damn politics.

      Well, politics are everywhere -- and working through or around them is always a part of getting reasonable things done. The politics of the public schools are especially, almost intractably, thorny since it's such a small pie of money and everyone has to share it.

      But there are a lot of extraordinary people making the schools succeed in spite of this. I had some pretty amazing teachers in my K-12 years, who were succeeding in spite of so many things it makes my head spin. So fighting the good fight to get students and teachers involved with the technology is not a lost cause.

    6. Re:Spend it on people! by global_diffusion · · Score: 1

      The tech fee is a levy added to the regular cost of tuition for the acquisition of new technology. It is not to be used for upkeep or anything else. It is not possible to use this money for anything else.

    7. Re:Spend it on people! by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Exactly! and there is one thing I failed to mention... the 2 schools that I observed that had a working IT program were private schools. (tuition was $200.00 per month per child... pretty darn cheap) Every student was issued a laptop and Internet access at home was required (parents had to supply that) Starting at the 8th grade students could take classes in the It department at IT "employees". granted every student that left the one school that is closest to me graduates very well educated students... which is a drastically different from the public schools. The ONLY way to get the public schools up to speed would be to get the state governments and fed govt to increase funding. (add to that local funding also.) but in america, education of the children is at the bottom of the priority list below cable tv rates and programming, snack foods, and porn accessability.... Makes you love this country eh?

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      Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
    8. Re:Spend it on people! by FLaMeBoY · · Score: 1

      Hehe this reminds me.. at my uni we have to pay a fee for any class where we get to use a computer (on top of the tech fee). It's for the use of the floppy drives!

      Now the only time I have used the floppy drive is to help a lecturer recover the root password from a linux server (long story..) and to help a lecturer remove ntfs partitions from hard drives used for hands on NT server classes (hehe got over 90% and only turned up for a few classes were I read my own books and helped the lecturer out).

    9. Re:Spend it on people! by mogwai_merritt · · Score: 1

      I work at a 6-8 school in a K-8 district, and the problems of hiring people is much akin to the problems of buying random tech. They need a framework.
      I'm working hard within myposition to open up the respectable faccilities we have here to something other than Oregon Trail and clip art.
      Basically, my mission has become pushing the district's concpet of computer use beyond where it was when I was in junior high school. It's an uphill struggle to get administration to recognize that a great way for students to learn real, usefull computer skills is by trial and lots and lots of error.

    10. Re:Spend it on people! by wagadog · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The main problem in universities is where computer support sits in their status hierarchy: At The Bottom. Definitely below the departmental secretaries, possibly above the janitors. In some departments, computer support was in fact done by certain janitors that volunteered to change the backup tapes, got root, and took over from there.

      CS teaching and research is considered a cash cow, but their contribution is actually not taken seriously as part of "the life of the mind." The administration will gladly take half or more of the money they bring in, and would rather spend it on the campus landscraping than on the network infrastructure. The students and faculty demand better computers and better support, so what does the administration do? Levy another student fee to pay for it!

      But where did that 50-60% in "administrative overhead" on grants and contracts that supposedly goes to pay for the infrastructure, including the, uh, network? Oh, into some pet project of some kiss-ass assistant dean of liberal somethingorother, as usual. Painting the Roses Red.

      So now you have a shiny new pot of money to spend on computers. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. It will become yet another bone of contention for yet another round of stupid power games, and the person that gets stuck with making what's little left at the end of it all work--you know, the guy or gal at the bottom of their hierarchy of prestige and power--will get all the blame for all the delay caused by their power struggle and indecision, and will be caught in the middle of their stupid games.

      The students, who have paid for it all, will get nothing, if anything, out of this as usual.

      Except for those lovely expensive full-color glossy printed brochures put out by the the Wife Of Dean So-And-So working in the University of PR office describing, in extremely vague marketing terms, all of the benefits of the their selling out to Microsoft and accepting tons of M$ educational licenses for half price, the wonderful deal that she oh so sucksessfully negotiated -- when they could have gotten linux for free.

      You can come up with all the creative ideas you want, but the above is what will actually happen.

  33. Re:Here's a tip by starkyhack · · Score: 0, Troll

    Dude, you reek heavily with the stench of stupidity...

  34. Invest it growth stocks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Take the money and invest it in growth stocks.
    After a few years, start moving the money into
    income stocks. Use the income from the stocks
    to fund the projects, and stop charging the fee.

  35. Endowment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Use it to create the "CowboyNeal Esteemed Professorship"

  36. its the same here by stevarooski · · Score: 2

    . . .and I would assume likewise for most universities that provide comupting resources to students.

    Every quarter students here are charged a 'Student Technology Fee' on their tuition bill. This money is then dispensed by a committee of students, staff, and faculty towards educational technology projects.

    Most of the money has gone towards building some excellent general-access computing labs for students. Our school has a glut of computers for student use--compared to others I've visited, there are no time limits, printing is cheap, and despite a growth in student body size most days you can come into the library and sit down at a computer.

    In addition, there have been some 'questionable' purchases, in that exhorbitant amounts of cash have been funnelled into machines I wouldn't think are worth it. Examples are buying many of the mac g4 cubes instead of regular macs, along with those huge LCD displays. Don't get me wrong--I love the displays, but at the same time each one is the equivalent of 4 computers.

    So in sum, if you want to spend student money on educational techology, BUILD MORE LABS! Spend the money the most efficient way possible in order to server the most students effectively. If your school has any need or projected need at all for more computing seats, give those your first priority. Going from a school where the labs were too small to the one I'm currently at demonstrated just how important--and NICE--it is to have close to enough seats to serve the student body.

    Just my .02. . .

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  37. Suggestions for use of the Techonology Fee by eyempack · · Score: 1

    As a student at a mid sized school. The technology fee has turned into a small slush fund. I personaly send a proposal and it was later denyed. I think a WAN for on campus and a limited area of off campus housing would give better access and allow alot of students to use the resources from many access points.

    -Eyempack

  38. Network backup service by cperciva · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's a bit hard to make suggestions without knowing what your budget is and what you already have, but I'll give it a shot.

    Other posters have suggested a file server so that people can access their files from anywhere in the university. I'd extend this by adding an automated backup and recovery system.

    Make your daily/weekly/monthly backups as you normally would, but store the backups in a random-access form. Set up a web interface to allow people to browse the backed-up copies of their files and retrieve them.

    It might sound like a small thing, but I've found many times that I'd like to look at an old version of a file, and I'm sure other students are no different; the point isn't so much to provide a backup service as it is to provide a file rollback service.

    1. Re:Network backup service by Thing+1 · · Score: 1
      It might sound like a small thing, but I've found many times that I'd like to look at an old version of a file, and I'm sure other students are no different; the point isn't so much to provide a backup service as it is to provide a file rollback service.

      Sounds like something that could easily be done using CVS. Automated, even: user specifies which local files to store, and the system then submits them on a daily basis (or an interval specified by the user; or, even, an interval after the last write, like one hour so it doesn't store lots of little changes while the student's working, but when finished it'll store the end (or intermediate) result).

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    2. Re:Network backup service by cperciva · · Score: 2

      Sounds like something that could easily be done using CVS.

      I'm not sure about CVS here... most files are going to be binary (since word/excel/powerpoint are going to be the majority of the files). But even without CVS it isn't going to be hard; most useful things aren't hard.

    3. Re:Network backup service by euphline · · Score: 1

      What about a public CVS?

  39. ??? by _typo · · Score: 4, Redundant

    Let me get this straight. You charge them a "technology fee" *first* and then dedice what get's done with it?

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  40. Implement a wiki by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can get one from here as well as other places.

    Put it online, do various things to encourage each department to use it, put some of your own content on it, make sure students know about it and so on. One of the first things to use it for is to start a discussion for feedback about how the campus can be improved.

    For more on what a wiki is, try The Portland Repository. I would explain in detail, but after you go through the introductory pages there, anything that I could say would be redundant.

  41. Fund roll-out of open-source on desktops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Put those dollars to use; bootstrap adoption of AbiWord or Gnome across the university; have students turn in HTML instead of Microsoft Word DOC format.

    1. Re:Fund roll-out of open-source on desktops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ya! Help Microsoft obtain that 100% licensing compliance they've been after.

  42. scan the library by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Scan the whole library and provide free access to the material for all the students (as well as for the entire world, if the material is not subject to copyright entanglements).

    - Anonycous Moward

  43. Online Services by closet_subversive · · Score: 3, Informative

    While it is probably more oriented towards graduate students and faculty, online journals directly linked to our libraries search pages were a great addition. IEEE and physics journals tend to be used by a large number of students and might be a place to start.

  44. Well, maybe we're luddites by James1006 · · Score: 1

    At USB, our file serving is powered by SneakerNet (http://wombat.doc.ic.ac.uk/foldoc/foldoc.cgi?snea kernet).

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    1. Re:Well, maybe we're luddites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "At USB"

      University of Serial Bus?

  45. Wireless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My campus has gone completely wireless and for students with laptops (like myself) it's awesome.

  46. Aren't these classroom proposals? by kylef · · Score: 1

    The nature of the proposals wasn't explicitly stated in the question posted, but our University has a similar proposal-based system through the "Center for Instructional Technology." I am on a steering committee that deals with the proposals and money expenditures.

    The proposals are to be entertained from faculty, students, and teaching assistants; they are looking for new and innovative ways to use technology to promote learning. The budgets in question are usually a few thousand dollars per proposal.

    For instance, say a biology professor has an idea to use a wireless network and bunch of PDAs to use out "in the field". Each plant in a greenhouse or out in a field has an identifier next to it; as students walk around the field they can learn about any plant they find interesting by using their PDA to immediately research it over the wireless network, either querying a remote database or accessing web pages.

  47. money can be spend on bandwith by upt1me · · Score: 1

    Remove the bandwith caps from the resident networks.

  48. Little Things by that_guy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My school (Oregon Tech) has a similar fee that we pay, but it isn't applied to innovations or research of new technologies, but rather improving the existing infastructure. Since it started we went from unwired dorms to 10Mb. Some wireless beta programs were added, and best of all we got our own T1 for student access. (previously it was just dial up in the dorms. Ten modems for 300+ people) None of these things were very impressive, (maybe even lackluster) but they helped improve campus life 100%

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  49. Realdolls for all incoming geek freshmen by linzeal · · Score: 0, Troll

    Realdolls for all geek freshmen so they don't end up with herpes from the slutty art students on their time. They could even be made into robots and I'm sure in the future they could be used to shoot napalm out of those blowjob lips at anyone who may try to harm the poor geek freshmen.

  50. A few comments by meman2000 · · Score: 1
    From what I've seen, often times people in areas of authority (computer lab monitors, etc) don't understand technology well enough to implement anything innovative. Hell, they have a field day getting what we have to work. For example, our school network is to the point where if you were on floor 5 in a dorm hall, you'd have access to workgroups on floors 1-3 and 6, but not 4, and 4 would have access to workgroups on another dorm hall. This really gets annoying when you need to access an account on a school workgroup, and can't access it while the guy on the floor above you can.

    Digressing a little bit, is there really a need to implement new technology? At least from what I've caught in the news, most of the stuff coming out these days are either upgrades to software schools should have anyways, or useless tacky crap (palm pilot update) that really is more suited for individual fetish than education as a whole. Web pages never being updated, annoying phones going off in class, perhaps money would be better spent showing people how to use the tools they already have instead of bringing in a truckload of more problems.

  51. MP3s of all lectures. by vkg · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why? Not just because you might miss a class, but also for reference after the event.

    Why MP3 rather than video?

    Simple: cost. You could take a tiny slice of the tech budget and wire every auditorium and classroom for sound, and serving the files is no big deal (96KBMP for voice sounds like a CD).

    The problem which this leaves is blackboards / whiteboards. I'd suggest two possible solutions, in keeping with this low-tech approach.

    1> Webcams which take a picture of the board every five or ten seconds.
    (Pros: cool, cons: more complex, sync. with audio a problem).

    2> One of those funky systems which record where your pen is on the whiteboard and produce gifs from that data.

    Either solution is expensive, relative to sound, however, so mebbe the right thing to do is just to skip it.

  52. If you can't come up with anything. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you can't come up with anything, the either refund the money to students, or save it up for a really expensive project. Don't squander it on Bullshit.

  53. In university by AA0 · · Score: 1

    Being in university myself, I'd like to see a few things changed at our school.

    The first would be to hire someone full time that runs the web servers. I almost failed exams because they were down 4 of 5 days, and I needed some information from them. Its nice that they want to let students run the point and click windows environment, but it just isn't stable enough for their use.

    The 2nd thing I'd love to see is more materials for the profs to use. Many will occassionally bring in their 486 notebooks and try to show us something with a projector from it. Of course they crash, and are awfully slow. All the content is also on their harddrive, and they have no wireless access. Each prof should be able to have a wireless network computer with them, and the projector to go along with it. Overheads are way outdated for the kind of applications engineering students use.

    Of course, the dream is for the school to have notebooks for students. Our tution price is huge compared to the cost, and when we factor in our textbooks it might even be more benefical and cheaper to have just laptops for everyone. Many of our profs just wish everyone in class could have one, as it would really allow us to do things right.

  54. My thoughts by macdaddy · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I too work at a university and the question has come up here before. It's already been suggested but wireless is a good way to go. Another might be to raise disk space quotas. More bandwidth is good but you also have to take care of what you buy. ie, buy a Packeteer to go with it. More lab machines. Better lab machines. Laptop checkout. NIDS to help better security. Minimal support of a local gaming server for the dorms. I know it sounds unusual and doesn't sound like it supports education, but really it does. Everyone needs to upplug from reality every so often--students included. Kids love gaming. Hell I love gaming. Netadmins hate gaming over the 'Net connection because of the bandwidth demands (I'm a netadmin). Supply some resources to have one local to campus that can only be accessed from the campus. Donate it to the SGA and let them admin it. Create a technology resource center where students can reserve time to use high tech stuff like fancy scanners, CD burners, etc...

    Here's a thought. Ask the students what they think their money should be spent on. :-)

  55. tech fees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Spending $ on Tech fees burns me! Just so a bunch of conformists can have a pool of cash to burn on MS seats and Web course in a box crapola- but at least tech fees conceivably benefit *all* students- at least those interested in information- beats paying tithe to the black student union - if you're not black and the baptist student league if you're not baptist. My univ has over a dozen official clubs just for "African Americans" to promote "diversity" (not to mention the ad hoc ones that get $ for pizza parties- Course no one has an answer to the fact that a club, if monocultural or monochromatic HAS NO DIVERSITY! But it keeps the MaoMaoing at a minimum. - Don't get me started on the 5 92%+ black universities I gotta pay for w/ my taxes here in VA. (one of which just got busted for racial discrimination against their profs! ha!)

    Seriously tho, spend the cash on spell/grammar check programs for these morons who just can't get the difference between their/there.

  56. Do's and Don'ts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I've worked in IT at the Univ Oklahoma and now a small private college. Here's my experience and advice:

    Don't charge a technology fee, it just gives students one more thing to whine about. IT should be driven by an institutional needs basis so you can get the biggest bang for your buck. Those typically are more network storage space, more mail server space, online enrollment/course content, and reliable connections.

    Wireless: Us tech geeks like to shout "wireless" as the solution to everything, but hardly anyone at the Univ Oklahoma used the wireless. Students would rather have a fast wired connection. If their dorms are not switched ethernet, you need to implement switching ASAP.

    Email: Give everyone decent mail storage and access via a web client such as the free squirrel mail app (squirrelmail.org)

    Network storage: We just installed a new raid array on our OSX servers which will give each student 100MB. Our next step is to get Samba and FTP up and running on those to allow access anywhere.

    Online enrollment/course content: If your only new IT development is online enrollment, the students will appreciate you. My recommendation is that those developing this MUST get the tech support folks involved. Oklahoma didn't get the helpdesk people involved in the planning/development stages of their initial rollout. That resulted in thousands of questions that could have been negated by user-friendly prompts and error messages.

    Off-campus connections: Don't even go there. It will be a huge waste of helpdesk resources and endless whining. No educational institution can hope to be a good dialup ISP, so don't try. Let those off-campus find a local provider. If you have a technology fee, off-campus users will EXPECT a free dialup. One more reason to get rid of the technology fee.

  57. Re:??? - this happens a lot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Better than charging a bus fee and then deciding what to do with it.

    Administration: Buses? We already had money for buses, we just got the students to vote to give us MORE bus money, so now we have extra. Time to build some center that less than 1% of the campus will be able to access.


    I voted no, but I was unusually informed. Thank you Texas A&M. Now we all are forced to pay for a bus pass (in essence), but you don't print them because our IDs now double as bus passes. More money in, less money spent, oops too much, use for something the students wouldn't have voted for. Yay!


    Yes, get the money first, figure out what you want after it's all counted.

  58. EUEF by feetofclay · · Score: 1

    When I was part of the executive, the Engineering Students' Society at my university brought in a similar program called the EUEF (Engineering Undergraduate Equipment Fund.) $25(CDN) a semester for every undergraduate engineering student. It's worked pretty well. Take a look at http://www.ess.ualberta.ca/services/euef.php.
    They've got a list of everywhere the money has gone since it was brought in. You might get some ideas there.

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  59. Put content on-line by slimme · · Score: 1

    You can put the money in on-line education.

    What do you need (all of the following elements have to be fullfilled):

    -Support from teaching staff: they must want it.
    -Software to run this (you can buy it, create it yourself or use open source software).
    -You need support for the software
    -You need advice about creating on-line courses (You could just put the syllabus on-line, but then you're not creating on-line courses).
    -You need someone who will keep the courses up to date.
    -You need someone who will answer questions relating to the on-line courses.

    The combination of all te preceding elements are quite costly if you are serious about it.

    But then again you could simplify stuff a lot and just offer a combination of a forum / a file sharing environment/ e-mail listing.

  60. Things that we've done here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually here we actually have a fund in the Faculty of Science that was created a bit for that, except that students run all of it (disclaimer, I've been part of that group for about 3 years). The main fund is to put computers available in the hallways for students to use. We have about 75 right now, which will increase by about 20 soon. But we've been doing a few other interesting projects: Lectures Online, we record lectures from a few auditoriums from the sound system and make them available online. We have linux recorders there that record at the speciific classes and them upload the Real audio files to the webserver. So there's zero maintenance involved, and since we're using old machines, no harware cost either. We've also been helping some profs to put their lectures in PowerPoint format. We're actually recording some of them. Those require more manpower and hardware, but you can actually have both the visuals and the audio at the same time! It's actually pretty funny that the University usually picks up our projects pretty quickly and copy them as their own. At least we get them moving a bit, else they might miss the boat completely on some of those. If you're curious about some of the others thigns that we're doing, feel free to contact me. François

  61. Tech Fees. by saintlupus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I work for a university, and we have a special 'technology' fee that is charged to students, intended to be used for focus on new technology of direct benefit to students either in the classroom or related educational/learning activities.

    I work for one too. We also charge a technology fee. It goes straight into the general fund, never to be seen by the IT department.

    This seems pretty common -- most of the colleges I've heard of use the tech fee as something to raise rather than tuition. There's lot of those; Death of a Thousand Cuts to keep the paper tuition low.

    --saint

    1. Re:Tech Fees. by /dev/trash · · Score: 1
      I work for one too. We also charge a technology fee. It goes straight into the general fund, never to be seen by the IT department.

      Amen to that
      Do you work for Penn State???

  62. Educate the educators by kooshvt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    While I don't agree with colleting fees from students when you have no clear goals in mind with the money, I do have one suggestion. The school I attend has a very good infrastructure and lots of software at the proffesors disposal to allow students to access grades, assignments, homework, or whatever online (such as the blackboard software). However this software seems to be rarely used due to the fact that some professors simply have no idea how to use it. Professors from nontechnical departments such as the English department simply just don't get it because they have never been properly shown how to use it. The software was probably purchased using technology fees from previous years but it is now worthless because no one uses it to it's fullest potential if they use it at all.

    What is the point of constantly spending money to buy software and hardware that no one will know how to use. Take some time and set up seminars on how to better use the existing infrastructure. Educate the proffesors on how to make the best use of the technology at their disposal.

    I am all for spending money to upgrade and expand the technology used on campus, but make sure people know how to use it and will use it before adding more unused resources.

  63. Re:Little innovation right now + many lazy people by Bert64 · · Score: 1

    However the technology the students own at home, will be geared towards being easy to use, and won`t require much, if any, learning to use. If all someone does is click on quake.exe, play the game, crash, reboot, click quake.exe etc etc, they will never actually learn anything usefull. It`s the job of education to teach people that there is more to computing than just playing games, and to show them how to correct things which are wrong, And this can more easily be achieved in a lab environment, where the university has the resources, such as multiple hardware architectures and a wide range of very different software. Afterall, if you teach someone to look for the options they need, rather than showing them exactly where a particular system keeps those options, they will be much more able to adapt to differing software/hardware environments.

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  64. i know... by fringd · · Score: 2, Funny

    spend the money upgrading all the machines to the latest version of windows! i think xp only costs $500 per license, but you could probably still exaust all your funds by paying microsoft.

    my friends are really right. microsoft just "get's the job done." i mean really, if we were installing linux, we'd still have truckloads of money unspent. waste is the silent killer...

  65. Humanities projects: a sample and an idea by Boiotos · · Score: 1
    Don't overlook active participation in an existing, well-conceived project. I've mentioned my Historical Event Markup and Linking Project here on /. before. Our system's generation of SVG maps and timelines is wonderfully internationalized in order to apply to as many disciplines as possible; my partners and I hope it will get widely used at this early stage so that peer criticism will direct its adolescence.

    Strong projects using existing technology will exploit the network's ability to deliver to, and collect from, anywhere. For instance, your older faculty in archaeology, Classics, Religious Studies, etc. probably have thousands of excellent slides under their own copyright that they really hope will not disappear after they retire. A local, web-based catalogue of these would be a treasure-trove to new faculty and might even be a selling point in the increasingly competitive market for academics.

  66. Student activity by limako · · Score: 1

    As John Holt said, learning is not the product of teaching -- it is the product of the activity of the learner. So what do you want your students to do? The best uses of technology for students are as a tool performing these activites, ideally using the capabilities of technology to support networked collaboration. What are these activities? In biology they include performing observations (digital cameras), data acquisition (A2D boards), analyzing data (spreadsheets, graphing, pspp, etc), and presenting results (word processing, presentation tools, VNC to share screens and project results). There is also a specialized role for technology as a problem-solving environment (coupling a modelled environment with a set of built-in tools for analysis).

    As I've written before, the biggest danger is the indescriminate use of technology to just do what was done before but now with technology. Most of the extant course management tools (WebCT, Blackboard, etc) have this focus. For more innovative approaches, check out lon-capa (lon-capa.org) or learnloop (learnloop.org).

  67. Bandwidth Costs by hendridm · · Score: 1

    We had unrestricted 100 megabit access to our OC-3 pipe in the dorms. I was told that two years after installing ethernet in the dorms our bandwidth bill had become 16 times greater than it was before dorm ethernet. The cost the University was enormous. Instead of blocking ports, which is generally frowned upon by the IT department (hey, they like P2P too!) they decided to implement "bandwidth shaping" which would throttle the bandwidth when excessive outgoing tranfer was detected, and would bring itself back up once the excessive usage stopped. I'm not sure how they're doing it but it was a huge disaster at the beginning (people were getting shut off completely). It seems to be working now I guess and I haven't noticed any annoyances, but I'm on a cable modem and would probably be unaffected anyway.

    I do a ton of downloading and I would say around 80-90% of it is legitimate (I transfer a lot of legal ISOs), so I'm glad I haven't been affected.

  68. New (optical) mice in labs!!! by Darth_Burrito · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I went to OSU. Whenever this question was posed to the students, one of the biggest requests always involved mice in the labs. Most computer labs on campus used old mice and had no mouse pads. Every mouse was perpetually in need of cleaning. Before you go out and spend lots of money on anything innovative, make sure all the basic stuff works well... and if you can, get Optical Mice so no one ever has to clean another lab rat again.

    Other suggestions:
    Improve Documentation: One of the biggest questions at CS-OSU was, "How do I get an X session?"

    Improve network infrastructure: This can always be improved.

    Improve WebCT/remote learning: WebCT/Remote learning tools typically need improvement. Usually, the biggest problem is not the software but the Teachers who are unfamiliar with it but required to teach course through it. Student aids for these teachers are not always adequate.

    Wireless: This may be a bit much, but the students would love it if you could get it working.

    Subsidized/Discounted Software: At OSU we had the Buckeye Bundle. It included every MS product (any OS, any Office, Studio) for $100. We also had a Software to Go website where we could download some stuff like SSH for free. This was very popular with me and my friends.

  69. White Trash by junkster191 · · Score: 1

    The thing that angered me when I first got to my University was that every rich student's parents seem to buy them a brand new $2000 laptop (not to mention the latest, most wastingest, trendy SUV, but that's another rant) which they only ever used for music and porn, while I was barely able to run netscape on my ancient box and going half-blind from a fuzzy, dying monitor (Imagine getting a headache every time you tried to study- not very encouraging). Seeming to have the least capable machine in the dorms was embarrassing enough, but the fact that I'm doing CS made it even worse.

    I don't think any school should buy machines for every incoming student, but some sort of program tied into the financial aid office whereby us less-than-priviliged kids (and especially those of us who really need a decent machine, like computer scientists :) ) can get one. Also, public labs don't cut it, as I routinely need to be a sudoer or administrator, and I break my box all the time trying out bizarre things. Can't really do that in a public lab.

    Also my school built something called the Wildnet- which is also a nifty idea.

    1. Re:White Trash by easter1916 · · Score: 1

      You were angry with them because thier parents were wealthy? That's a bit pointless, isn't it? After all, they made thier money, let them spend it as they see fit.

    2. Re:White Trash by nomadic · · Score: 2

      When PCs started really becoming common in everyone's house (umm..like 1994 or so), you could always tell who the hard-core techies were, because they had these ancient machines held together with duct tape and glue. Be proud of your ancient machine.

    3. Re:White Trash by acceleriter · · Score: 1
      I'm not speaking ex cathedra here, but if the cost of a computer isn't included in your budget (known to the Financial Aid Office as your "Cost of Attendance") that was used in figuring your aid package, you may be able to persaude them to add that cost to your budget. That would then possibly enable your school to allow you to borrow additional funds to purchase one from the Federal (or other) loan programs.

      All the CYA language is because I'm acquainted enough with financial aid to know it can be a complicated business, but not so acquainted with it to think I can map my knowledge to a situation with which I'm not familiar at a school whose policies I don't know <grin>. I hope you feel like at least checking it out with them--no one should have to go blind at a computer from programming!

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  70. smart podiums, blackboard, training... by feldsteins · · Score: 1

    In regards to your focus on the inside of the classroom - you might be interested in a company called Smart. I've purchased and installed two of thier boards now and they're a big hit. They're a step beyond a computer with a projector. It not only allows educators to stand up in front of the projected computer screen and actually control the computer by touching it, it also allows them to put any student workstation up on the projector as well, such as for a class critique of student work.

    I went out of my way to arrange training for the faculty who would be teaching in these labs. Most of them showed up, a few still don't get it. But for the board is used every single day, that much I know.

    I think you mentioned Blackboard, too. We've been using it also and it's been great for us. We periodically arrange for 2-hour how-to sessions for faculty. Adoption of the system has positively exploded. Naturally there are plenty of faculty who will never use it, but as you say the students pressure them and we provide the training...so in the end more and more come to use it.

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  71. Interoperable Tools and Systems by jfrumkin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I currently work at a research university, and one of the foremosts issues we face is not in a number of useful tools and projects which promote research and education, but how to get these tools and systems to interoperate. It would be great if a student could log in with their student ID, and access any of the tools and services that might be available to them. These might be electronic reserves, their class registration, their course's website, the campus bookstore (for ordering books), a central file storage area particular to that student, etc. I'm not aware of any university which has seemless integration of learning and research tools.

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  72. One word: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Prostitutes. Ones with great big breasts and no hep-B!

  73. Forget Blackboard, Use Manhattan by Darth+Cider · · Score: 2, Informative

    You have funding, but you can spend it wisely by trying out href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/manhattan/"& gt;Manhattan Virtual Classroom available for FREE at SourceForge. Makes it easy for prof's to post lectures, notes etc. by simply attaching docs, not coding them into html. Has very low hardware requirements an is extremely stable.

  74. We have this by hendridm · · Score: 1

    Our Uni has network shares. We started with 20MB quotas which was rediculous because it was almost maxed out by IE/Netscape/roaming profiles, Eudora data files, and the like. The quota is now at 50MB and it seems to be a much better amount. This was paid for with the student technology fee.

    We use Northern's quota server to implement quota on Dell Windows 2000 Servers. However, Quota Server seems to buckle under the pressue with 5000 students per box. We have a lot of problems with quota being screwed up. I think around 3000 people per box is more of a sweet spot for this particular product. We have under 1500 staff/faculty per box and it has very few problems.

    1. Re:We have this by marktwain · · Score: 1

      This clearly deserves a higher rating because of the original nature of the idea.

      Sure, it's not uncommon on .edu sites anymore, but the lack of adequate storage for legitimate student use remains all too uncommon.

  75. Build an integrated account system by Rhonabwy · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Build an integrated account system for the various OS's that you have around campus. This ends up being a LOT more than spending money, although money is part of it. It's spending Campus political clout and providing a unified service to the students. One account, one authorization, no matter where you're going or what you need.

  76. whatever you do, don't give more money to MS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am sure that MS products would not qualify the
    "new technology" requrement. Better to invest in open source, alternative OS, and SUN hardware.
    Solaris is free for the asking (under 8 cpus).

  77. EdNet by oiblah · · Score: 1

    At Rock Valley College in Rockford Illinios they have something called EdNet. Simply put it's a graphical BBS that can be accessed via the web or through computers on campus. When you sign up for a class there you automatically receive an EdNet account. The system seems to work well for Rock Valley and the few other schools that I've heard use it. It doesn't necassarly have to be EdNet but this is kind of a system is interesting because the teachers can create there own "Room" for there classes. Within these rooms you can post comments or questions, get a chat going with another student, or just get your homework assignment. I'm not sure were one would go to get info about EdNet specifically but I'm sure a search in google will reveal something.

  78. Weave's guide to spending Ed Tech monies by weave · · Score: 3, Insightful
    When proposing how to spend Ed Tech monies, it's important to keep the institution's goals and best interests in mind. Education you may think? No, it's grand openings and tour opportunities.

    There is nothing more important than providing a platform for University and politicians to come together to pat each other on the back and show off. Therefore, all proposals must meet this primary objective. If it fills a room up, all the better.

    Therefore, Weave's the good and the bad list for spending ed tech money.

    THE BAD

    • Infrastructure: Forget bandwidth upgrades, replacing tired 10 Mbps hubs with switches, wireless, more disk for your SAN, and that fancy LTO tape robot you've had your eye on. (The robot may qualify if it is in a clear case where you can see it in operation. Something like an ADIC 100 is therefore just an ugly little black box and not worthy).
    • Tech Training: "We are a learning institution. We will not send our techs out for training. We will cross-train internally." Besides, you can't touch or see training. Only possible exception is if it produces nice certifications that can hang on the wall and become a small part of a larger tour.
    • End-user Training: See above. It doesn't matter if the equipment purchased is used to its fullest. Let the IT department answer any end-user questions on the new stuff.
    • Tech staffing: Big no no. It doesn't matter if hundreds of computers are added all over campus, or older equipment is under massive migration to the latest, the tech support department will need to absorb the added duties. (All they do is play quake all day anyway). Besides, we don't want to look like we're using the money to grow a bureaucracy. Work smarter, not harder.

    THE GOOD

    • Labs: Where x is the total amount of money available in ed tech money and y is the number of computers in a typical computer lab and z is the current price of a new PC, calculate n = x/y/z and purchase n computer labs. Infrastructure? Staffing? You didn't read "THE BAD" section, did you?
    • Multimedia lecture rooms: Smart boards, projectors, good. This is very likely to get approved. Board members can sit in a classroom and view a powerpoint presentation about how the money was spent. Make sure to annotate the presentation with notes scribbled on smart board and printed out so board members can take with them. Concerned about faculty training? See next bullet.
    • Faculty development lab: Throw a few computers, VCRs, presentation monitor, and a cabinet (glass) full of impressive software titles up, and take a tech from the help desk area to man this new lab. However, it's important to ensure faculty have no additional release time from normal classes to learn how to integrate technology into their courses. We wouldn't want to take them away from teaching students. Also, don't train that help desk guy. He's a computer geek, they just know this stuff naturally.
    • Get a cheesy portal product: Force all users to migrate off the UNIX or Microsoft mail servers they have been using for 10 years onto some new portal product like Campus Pipeline. Be sure the product, whatever it is, has two pricing options. One, some made up outrageous fee like $250,000 and the other, a free grant model where allowing them to put up advertising on your web pages and use cookies to track student browsing habits. You can then take credit for saving a quarter million dollars, despite it duplicating (or even losing) what functionality you already had.

    I hope this helps. p.s. This is just a theoretical exercise. My employer is, of course, far more enlightened on these matters...

    1. Re:Weave's guide to spending Ed Tech monies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Buhaha!

      I am glad that someone else besides me thinks Campus Pipeline sucks. We have it at my university and I believe it is one of the worst investments my university made.

      The Good:
      1. Everything is in one place.

      The Bad:
      1. Slow & requires Java
      2. Clunky user interface
      3. Does not play well with Mozilla
      4. Faculity like to use it because it is a new
      toy, in reality though it is a pain to use,
      why not just have a normal web page? I know
      plenty of faculity that only put their stuff on
      campus pipeline.
      5. Crashes frequently (seems like 2 times a week
      or so.

    2. Re:Weave's guide to spending Ed Tech monies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      In regards to ac's comment on Pipeline...

      Does not play well with Mozilla

      Annoying, huh? The rev we have browser sniffs and denies mozilla. But if you use IE and then bookmark the logon page, then use THAT in mozilla, it works just fine...

      The other annoying thing, from a tech standpoint, is that my department used to run the mail servers and used procmail scripts to filter out all the bad and dangerous "active" mail content. Pipeline's backend mail server can't use procmail so we're now having problems with users and stupid dangerous attachments. Also, no spam filtering, etc, etc...

    3. Re:Weave's guide to spending Ed Tech monies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like my institute where I work. There must be a common idiot gene that is required to work on committees that allows decisions like you've listed. I just hope that others reading your suggestions understand the underlying sarcasm.

  79. Best use: REFUND THE FEE! by Bitmanhome · · Score: 1

    If you can't figure out what to do with the money, then why are you collecting it?? I swear, you liberals are just nuts .. Let the students keep THEIR money, and spend it truly useful things, like tuition and books.

    -B

    --
    Not that this wasn't entirely predictable.
  80. LEt Students Use It. by Wingie · · Score: 1

    What we have in my school is a student organization that basically volunteers their time to make nice things for the campus community with funding coming directly from the school. With that money we maintain a library of computer books and a few student operated servers that people who know what they're doing can mess with and students can request web space on. (In our case the student servers have much better support for mySQL, PHP, etc. and much better reliability than the school ones) The problem we have, though, with students executing the plans is that we have tons more ideas (and the money) but not many people actually work on them.

  81. Perspective from a couple different schools by cilynx · · Score: 1

    My first year of college, I went to a big name engineering school in Milwaukee where all of the students were provided with laptops with an extensive software package. A lot of the students complained about the price of the machines (around $3000 for an Armada K62-300 three years ago), but no one complained when it came time to type up papers or compile test code. Also, the infared capable printing stations were nice for those students that did not have their own printers.

    As for wireless networking, I don't think it is really necessary on a campus, especially if the school does not provide/force laptop ownership. However as an alternative, I think study lounges, libraries, etc..., should be wired for access to the campus network / the internet.

    Loaner laptops would be a good idea if not for human nature. I've been to schools where they loaned out word-processors and even those were abused and damaged. I think that truly functional laptops would be all the worse.

    The university I attend now simply blocks the ports for napster, gnutella, etc.. which annoys me a little, but is perfectly understandable.

    My school also has email/web terminals, which are never vacant, set up in the hallways of the student union.

    As for IMAP/POP, I don't think it matters much to the end user as they both require more setup than the kids want to put forth. Most people on campus don't use the campus email that is provided free of charge. They have hotmail accounts or the like. If the school provided a web interface to the email system, it would probably find more use.

    Basically, as much as I don't like to say it, anything that makes the system easier to use for the students is a worthwhile cause. Stupid proof terminals in the student union and full access computers in the privileged labs seems to be a system that works well.

  82. amazing new tech by gmhowell · · Score: 2

    I found out about this neat new tech just recently. You take a tree, shread it to ribbons. Then mash it with some chemicals, and pull it out flat.

    Then take some berries or blood. Dip a pointy stick into it, and scratch out the same characters that come up onto your screen when you use a keyboard.

    The technology is amazing. It is 100% portable, and usable without batteries or electricity of any kind (although using at night does require an accessory light). In addition, they never, ever, ever become obsolete. If I understand correctly, there are no licenses, so when finished, you can hand the treepulp with blood scratchings to the next set of students.

    Now, it is somewhat fragile, and is flammable. But it survives being dropped off of a desk MUCH better than a laptop. Even better than those toughbooks.

    The user interface is pure simplicity. No keyboard or mouse. You simply take a stack of this treepulp, and place it in sequential order. Then physically move the 'pages' back and forth to get to the desired 'page'.

    And, here is the truly insane part: they are cheap. For the same $899 that you may spend on a computer that will be destroyed and obsolete in a few years, you can literally buy thousands of these treepulp stacks.

    The support costs are almost zero. You need a box or 'treepulp shelf' to store them on, and you need some climate control (not as rigorous as that needed for computers, BTW), but that is it. No network admin, no support contracts, no licensing agreements.

    I know it sounds like this must be vaporware, but I have actually seen them for sale in stores. Maybe it is just an east coast thing, but I have a feeling that these will really take off.

    --
    Jesus was all right but his disciples were thick and ordinary. -John Lennon
    1. Re:amazing new tech by BCoates · · Score: 1

      Man, those things are dangerous. You'd think something described as "pulp" wouldn't be sharp, but you cut your finger on the edge and you'll wish you were dead.

      --
      Benjamin Coates

  83. Give the money back to the students by owlmeat · · Score: 1

    So you took hard-earned money from the students and you're so clueless you have to come to slashdot to find out how to spend it? I am outraged that fools like you are entrusted with the education of students.

    --
    They stab it with their steely knives,

    But they just can't kill the beast.

  84. Odd capitalisation... by tunah · · Score: 1, Flamebait
    I know there are a lot of .GOV and .EDU readers on Slashdot

    But not so many .NET users...

    --
    Free Java games for your phone: Tontie, Sokoban
  85. Why this isn't the place to ask this question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How disappointing. I was really hoping to learn something interesting from this thread. Every University (probably true in the private sector as well) is obsessed with mindless tech expenditures. They just bought the secretaries in my dept. 17 inch flat screen monitors. I can't possibly think of a reason why.
    Anyway--the basic problem with technology in Universities as I see it--is that the funds are used to make life more convenient for students rather than for educational purposes. This means a more streamlined administration but no advance in education itself. This is because students think that the money should be spent on tangible benefits for them (e.g. all of the silly "give it back to the students" advice above.) And the tech people are in love with tech for tech's sake rather than for educational purposes. Sure wireless is nice for probably 5% of the students, but education can and will occur in the total absence of wireless network access (actually probably wireless will only hinder education--just what we need another freakin' distraction for the MTV attention span of the modern undergraduate.)
    What's the solution? Tech for the faculty! Smart Classrooms--additional training to develop technology enhanced instruction for the faculty. Reduced teaching loads for faculty to integrate technology into their courses (Time was when all you had to do to teach was write some lectures and deliver them. Now the lectures have to "entertaining" for the students as well. If we add technology to the classroom, now the faculty have to get training in writing web-pages, writing powerpoint presentations, designing multimedia content for the classroom.) All faculty members should have several computer systems (rather than one every 5 years or so). A laptop for use in classroom and at home. An office computer. Plenty of space of servers etc..--blackboard software or equivalent. multiple email accounts etc.. Support services in the university for doing time-consuming activies (scanning documents etc.)
    Not going to happen however, because students are consumers and investing in the long term human infrastructure of the University gets much less notice than flashy buzz-words like "wireless" and is less easily justified to the myopic administrators and immature students who dominate the discussions.

  86. foreign language learning exchange by twexter · · Score: 1
  87. Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You collect the money without a purpose for it? How about you REFUND it and go back and plan a budget. I'm sure the students there appreciate knowing you have no clue.

  88. Appalachian State university by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I go to a relatively small school in North Carolina... There are not a lot of geeks here, but the use of technology here is pretty darned good.

    1. Wireless in many of the buildings
    2. Loaner laptops in the library
    3. A whole lot of classrooms have LCD projectors
    mostly used for powerpoint, but still nice.
    4. POP/IMAP and Web based email (through Campus
    Pipeline) IMHO web mail sucks nuts, and Campus
    Pipeline is web based, it is prone to crashes
    and is generally slow.
    5. Ethernet in all dorms, ~DSL speeds.
    6. A lot of computer labs with pretty good
    computers, and good hours, we have only 1 24
    hour lab though.

    I have a few complaints about the school though.

    1. More bandwidth damnit.
    2. More bandwidth damnit.
    3. Don't restrict my access, I want to be able to
    run a Unreal Tournament server.
    4. The network goes down to much, if this were a
    commercial environment most all of our network
    admins would be fired.
    5. Get rid of the damned VAX servers, get some
    good UNIX servers.
    6. Tech support people need paid more. (yup I work
    for tech support hehe)
    7. More bandwidth damnit ;)

    Something that I think would be beneficial would be some type of caching system for frequently downloaded files would be a good thing.

    Instead of blocking all incoming ports, give us
    a upload cap.

    Get rid of Campus Pipeline... just because it sucks.

  89. MP3s- I would have killed for that in college (nt) by BCoates · · Score: 1

    like i said, nt

  90. Two Words: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Quake servers.

  91. At my school by global_diffusion · · Score: 1

    ... it is used to pay software licenses. That's right, Word on every computer. Why they don't set up a kde box with normal office apps is beyond me. Oh, wait, it's because microsoft donated most of the equipment and now it would be too much of a hassle to switch.
    (www.washington.edu)

    1. Re:At my school by t_allardyce · · Score: 2

      Its sick, how much money is wasted on software licenses. Maybe schools and uni's should just put it all in the campus furnace instead. Atleast that would keep the students warm.

      The only thing you should be spending money on, is bandwidth, and terminals to access it... oh and food, and pr0n

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  92. web services by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    give everyone pop accunts, online storage, file sharing, and other webservices like document convesion or instant message (run a private Jabber server?)

  93. Distance Ed. by vanguard · · Score: 2

    My school offers a distance ed. program based on technology.

    You can check it out here.

    Anyway, this is a big deal to me. I'm 28, a parent, and I'm married. It would be very hard on me and my family to go back to school now. With this program I'm able to get a comp sci master's degree without taking away from my income or family time (I do the work after my two year old goes to bed.)

    In addition to that, on campus students are able to make up classes or watch critical sections twice. The school makes money on VBEE (video based engineering education) students even though they are charged less because they don't use the same assets. They make even more money when they reuse the lectures. (A lecture is good for about 18 months in comp sci.)

    Anyway, on campus students benefit, the school benefits, and VBEE students benefit. It's not cheap. To do it right you need a camera man, you need to mic every student, you need streaming realplayer servers, you need good presentation monitors in the room, etc. Production quality matters. However, it's enabled me to get a masters (I'm almost done) and learn *a lot*. It's improved my career and my life.

    --
    That which does not kill me only makes me whinier
  94. Re:Best use: REFUND THE FEE! by el_chicano · · Score: 1
    If you can't figure out what to do with the money, then why are you collecting it?? I swear, you liberals are just nuts ..

    Hmmm... Let's see: "liberal" John F Kennedy wanted to go to the moon. Had the government not spent millions trying to get to the moon, we would not have many products/materials we use today. In fact the Internet and much of the computer technology we take for granted today was funded by taxpayer funds allocated by the government.

    Nuts? Hardly, it is what you call good public policy. I seriously cannot see how spending LESS money will allow you to do a better job educating MORE students...
    --
    A man who wants nothing is invincible
  95. lab hours by zenyu · · Score: 1

    I remember when I was an undergraduate the most celebrated IT policy was the implementation of 24 hour computer labs.
    This isn't only for night owls, sometimes you had a paper due at 8:30am and the lab officially opened at 8am, but they had to boot the computers, refill the paper trays (there was always 24 hour access to the print queues), etc.

    The other thing is internet terminals, we had hundreds of them by the time I graduated but it wasn't enough. These were really handy because you could study anywhere and still be able to check course web pages and the all important e-mail.
    The 24 hour lab idea could have been better, as it was only one lab was 24 hours, the one with both macs & pc's. The digital editing lab wasn't open nor was the linux/windows highend PC lab (I tried to avoid that one cuz the frosh were always playing loud muzak on the PC-speakers, ugh). Plus, with just the one lab there were queues to use the better computers even at 5 am..

    I had a PC and laser printer, so I can only imagine how dependent other students were on the labs. Though I remember the top IT person gave a speach about eliminating the labs a couple years before they were expanded...
    Blackboard and even campus wireless seem like a waste of money, give it back so they can trade in some of those ramen for real food.

  96. Here is what my school did with $4/credit fees by doormat · · Score: 2, Interesting
    • Student help desk: basically kids can bring their computers in from home or from the dorms and have the techs take a look at it and fix whats wrong. They can call in and get help over the phone too. Open to undergrads/grad students (prolly staff too but I havent seen it advertised)
    • Keeping the computers up to date: P4s and high end P3s are in all the open computing labs, no P2-450s are left in the open/teaching labs.
    • 15" LCDs: this I think was a waste but thats what they did with the money, they prolly justified it by saying it was a good deal and they are saving money on power consumption (important here in the western US)
    • Rentable equipment: Laptops, digital cameras, digital camcorders, etc. CC needed for deposit for equipment, rental time is in 4 hour blocks, everything is due back at the end of the day.
    --
    The Doormat

    If you're not outraged, then you're not paying attention.
  97. Create open source projects ! by SocialEcologist · · Score: 0

    Hello,

    I think you shall spend a chunk of this money to create open source initiatives in your cs departement. That's what we do in our university : www.ift.ulaval.ca.
    We hope our students to get some more experience in programming and to give our departement some kind of advertising when the project will be released.

    Moreover, we encourage students (graduate students for exemple) to give small courses on hi tech stuff : linux, rmi, jini, xml, and so on.

  98. Universities *can't* subsidize wireless cards by billstewart · · Score: 1
    Universities have three main sources of funding
    • Tuition and Fees - that's your money - if they subsidize $X of the price of the card, it's by charging you $X plus administrative overhead
    • Grants and Donations - occasionally they can get corporate grants for this sort of thing, but it's usually tough. It's easier to get a grant for the school's side of the wireless network, from a company that hopes the students will buy their own cards.
    • Taxes, if they're government-funded - aside from the morality of forcing other people to subsidize your wireless card, in practice the university's already getting as much money as it's going to be able to get, unless they can get a major realignment in priorities (prisons vs. universities vs. good elementary schools vs. highways).
    --

    Bill Stewart
    New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
  99. Technology Fee Uses by tomskillman · · Score: 1

    Part of the fees at my school are used to build new "stick rooms". These are classrooms where a screen, LCD projector and Computer/VCR cart have been installed. They are called stick rooms because the computers are in a cart with an upright "stick" which has an LCD monitor attached. There are many of these throughougt the campus now, and eventually every room will be equipped this way. They are very useful in classes where the entire lab does not need computers, but the instructor does. One example is my current Networks & Communications class. The instructor has notes and Drawings on his web site. He uses the computer during his lecture to display the graphics and notes as he talks about them. This saves on the number of computer labs open for classes who need them for just one class out of the semester.

  100. ALSO, student gets hands-on experience... by benjamindees · · Score: 1
    Great Idea! I was going to say: let students volunteer to set up open-source wireless access points, but paying them minimum wage for their time is much better! I have a feeling at my school, though, that they would rather pay out the nose for commercial solutions instead of having cutting-edge software and paying some of that money back to their students. :(


    Personally, I had a horrid time at college my freshman year because of three things: no money, too much free time, and no opportunity to get a work-study position between classes. I go to a small school, so the classes I took were spread out over the whole day. I still have a difficult time scheduling classes around my part-time job.


    This is not just a win-win-win, but also a win-win-win-win situation: student gets paid, university gets useful software, open-source grows, AND student gets hands-on experience, something most universities have a hard time offering.

    --
    "I assumed blithely that there were no elves out there in the darkness"
  101. Mimio cheap whiteboard transcribers by billstewart · · Score: 2
    It's much easier to suggest simple toys than to make deeply thought-out contributions to educational technology use. So here's my favorite toy :-) Whiteboards that make copies of their contents used to be large expensive things that rolled flexible surfaces through scanners and printed copies. Now there's a low-cost computer-integrated alternative - Mimio. It's a ~$400-500 device that uses special pen holders and an ultrasonic position-detector bar that clamps on the side of your whiteboard, which tracks the position of the pens and transcribes it to a computer. You can do simple applications like copying the whiteboard, and they've got some extra software for OCR text recognition, streaming audio correlation, etc. It's useful for simple transcriptions, and also useful for multi-location meetings (admittedly, that's more of a business application than a school application.)

    I think there's also some competitor in the $300 range.

    --

    Bill Stewart
    New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
    1. Re:Mimio cheap whiteboard transcribers by Chagrin · · Score: 2
      Mind you the software shipped with the device is Windows-only. However, there has been some effort made in understanding the Mimio protocol which can be found at the "GNU/Digiwb" site: http://digiwb.spline.de/

      At one point in time I also developed a very rudimentary driver written in perl which is available here. Very rough around the edges, but it's a start.

      --

      I/O Error G-17: Aborting Installation

  102. As A student by johnnyp123 · · Score: 1

    I personally am one of the students that has to pay for these tech fees. I would think it would be a situation if my fee's ended up paying for a larger pipeline (as others have suggested) or wireless access on campus. Granted, my campus already has a network capable of serving it's 8500 students + faculty, but still, spending it bandwidth? please. Most of these tech fee's are put in a fund, to be distributed later to each department. There is a committee from each dept that decides what to do with these fees, including students and faculty (usually NOT the IT dept of the university). As a graphic design major, i had input on what to do with these. We bought a couple of digital projection systems, high quality flatbed/drum scanners, as well as many digital camera's and DV cams. Really, it all depends on your department and your needs/wants. All the talk about more bandwidth and wireless networks here don't help your education any. There are just a cool resource to be able to use. In reality, these services aren't paid by the tech fees for the department anyway, they are paid by a general computer access fee anyway. If wireless networks help my education, sure, but personally it doesn't help the quality of my education.

  103. This is a good, cheap idea, please MOD it up... by benjamindees · · Score: 1

    I was 2nd in the US in Latin reading comprehension in high school precisely because I used to record class lectures and replay them while doing my homework. I was lucky enough to have an open-minded teacher who didn't regard this as cheating. This is a very cheap, useful technique that is VERY BENEFICIAL in foreign language classes. Plus, it would save the students the hassle of buying a recorder and sitting at the front of the class to get a good recording.

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    "I assumed blithely that there were no elves out there in the darkness"
  104. Mobil Tech Center by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know of several schools purchasing buses and/or big rigs and converting them into mobile computer class rooms. With a generator, switch and 20 or so thin client computers. They then take the unit into the comunity and teach basic classes for free.Your university could ask its students to teach in the class as well as maintain it. One of the best ways to learn something is to teach it. You could both harden your students knowledge, provide a comunity service, as well as advertise your univerity.

  105. Graceland University Inovative Tech. Proposals by TheCow · · Score: 1
    Our school actually had a contest to use this money. The contest involved writing proposals that had the largest impact on the campus, and provided the best bang for the buck.

    Some of the ideas given:

    • 24 hour computer labs in the residence halls
    • A new lab specifically for job searches and the such (This one was selected)
    • Implementation of a wireless network for public student areas along with laptops that can be checked out to students. (this one was selected)
    • Replacement of old sound equipment in the main auditorium
    • Computer probes for chemistry data gathering along with software and a printer (this one was selected)
    • Replacement of Computer Science Server
    • Addition to the Internet Cafe on campus

    Any student that submitted a proposal was entered in a drawing for a Palm Pilot (Which turned out to be a Handspring Visor, False advertising!). The winners were picked at random, not by whether thier proposal was choosen (If it was by whether the proposal was choosen, I would have gotten one, but I didn't...).

    If you would like to get hard copies of the proposals you can request them from the VP of Information Services found in the online employee directory - Graceland University Web Site

  106. Michigan Teacher Network by agutier · · Score: 1

    This is not higher education, but a project for K-12 educators. It has been well recieved by Michigan educators. The idea is to create a clearing house where sites are categorirzed according to the Michigan Curriculum Framework, a state-wide classification system for teaching materials. Teachers can find resources based on the standards they have to meet.

    The materials are categorized by teachers and librarians using a back end interface.

    It is really simple, but effective.
    http://mtn.merit.edu/

  107. labs, training, online classes by bshanks · · Score: 1

    as a college student, here would be my three choices, in order of priority:

    1) make sure there is enough public computer labs in my opinion, this is the single most necessary item for students

    2) training for nontechnical faculty this makes it more likely that relevant course info will make it to the a course web page

    3) videotape classes and broadcast online
    of course, this is only if your budget is rather large.at my university (stanford), a lot of lectures are taped online, and it makes a big difference. there are a lot of times when i have rewatched parts of a lecture later on, or stepped through a confusing lecture slowly until it became clear.

  108. Some redundant suggestions... by Bodrius · · Score: 2

    I'm sure most of these have been mentioned at some point or another, but just in case:

    - One of my math professors puts all his lectures and notes on the web in PDF/JPEG format AND Quicktime videos.
    He uses Apple software for this (I'm sure there are alternatives) and it's an incredible help in the complex subjects he teaches: Algorithms, Graph Theory, Mathematical Logic, etc.
    I'm sure not all classes would benefit from the idea, but mathematical courses and some of the more complex computer science courses definitely would.

    - A "related papers" database linking research papers to each lecture in each course.
    Sure, any interested student can google their way to one of the public databases, and any teacher with the time can put the links in his website (if he has one).
    But having this process automated would make it easier for both students and teachers, and would allow other things: cumulative links independent from website changes, automatically sharing of links between professors, accepting submissions from students (at least graduate students), and maybe attached commentaries for each link ("a la Slashdot", without the Trolls).

    - Some of my professors use egroups to share information between the students. This is a ridiculously easy/cheap way to get the students to discuss assignments and topics outside the classroom and provide them with files, links, whatever might be of their interest without interrupting lectures.

    - Burn everything you can (lectures, videoconferencies, software, books, tutorials, etc) into CD-ROMs for the public library. Not everyone has access to a high-speed connection, or can spend all day in the university using the labs. This should be automated and independent of each professor.

    - Internet kiosks everywhere are always a good idea.

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  109. Increased Network Bandwidth by Bob_Robertson · · Score: 1

    Since so many schools have to restrict student use of file sharing software because of bandwidth issues, try releaving that problem.

    Go ahead and filter at the border, to make sure that your ISP (or peering partners) isn't overloaded. Look at what the students are using the network *for*, not just what the Ivory Tower dwellers think is "apropriate" use, and help it along.

    Bob-

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    The Ludwig von Mises Institute. The reasoning individuals economics
  110. Innovative options by jeanicinq · · Score: 0
    • 1. networked whiteboards

    • 2. student hypertext archives
      3. student domain [name] incubator
      4. networked projectors
      5. access smartcards


    There is five to ponder.
  111. Don't go too fancy... by joto · · Score: 3, Informative
    Simply ask yourself the question: "what is the most used resources now?" That should give you the answer.

    However, I have some ideas as well...

    • More copy-machines needed everywhere. Staplers, binders, that sort of thing.
    • Computer rooms overloaded during peak hours. Need more computer rooms. Stuff them with old computers, people needing a fast one will do so outside peak hours anyway.
    • Most universities have more than enough bandwith, but if it is low, block common file-sharing programs as actual work should get priority.
    • Make sure competent people are running the machines, better invest something in salaries than in more machines (when half of them doesn't work, that can become expensive). Add quotas for everything, especially disk/printer usage, morons with large mp3-collections or morons that print every web-page they see should not be allowed to make life harder for other. Many students are competent. Pay them to run the network as part-time jobs. Install every imaginable kind of scientific open-source software. Get licenses for mathematica, matlab, spss, etc...
    • Have different labs for different users. Standarizing on just one platform (whether it is Windows, Unix, or Mac) is not going to make everybody happy.
    • Make a queue-system for making it easier to find an available machine, add a time-limit (not too short to get useful work done) if every machine is occupied.
    • Put up some web-kiosks around campus at various places. That should give easy access to information when you don't need anything more than a quick browse of assignments on the course homepage, or checking your email. Put a printer there as well, but preferably with very strict quotas to avoid too much maintenance (say: max 3 pages per login session).
    • Don't bother about students in dorms wanting access for free. They should either pay you the same they would have paid to a commercial provider, or shut up. If they can afford a computer, they can afford to pay for bandwith as well.
    • Make sure you invest in something that will benefit everyone, not those screaming loudest.
  112. Another fee to students? by PhotoGuy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Man, that is so screwed up.

    Of all the additional things that educational institutions are dinging students for these days, I think imposing a "technology fee" is disgusting.

    Any fees for research should come from government, industry, and other organizations. The students should contribute to technology innvoation through their *work*, their *research*, their projects, and such. Not through a "fee".

    I know about inflation, but my University (which I gruaduated from in 10 years ago), is now charging *three* times what I paid for tuition. This is just wrong that higher education is becoming more and more exclusive. Things like this fee are just plain wrong, especially if they're having trouble finding what to do with it.

    Instead, they should encourage projects where interested students put their time and effort in, above and beyond, doing technologically interesting projects. People who are interested will do the world. Those who are ridden with apathy, won't be involved, and wont' care. No big loss.

    -me

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  113. Training, Training, Training by Sean+Clifford · · Score: 1
    Though currently working in IT, I'm an educational technologist and have worked in academia. Though infrastructure, hardware, and software are all important considerations most of your dollars need to be spent in training or you may as well be flushing the money down the toilet. Time and again, I've seen sexy ambitious projects have little or no impact in the classroom because virtually every dollar was spent on the technology.

    Teachers were expected (but not required) to attend weekend or summer inservice training sessions without additional pay or travel expenses. When computers finally arrived in their classrooms they didn't know what to do with them and support was stretched so thin that these boxes would often sit unopened for months. Hardware and software problems chewed through their lab machines - problems as simple as a loose power cable or unplugged network card. Needless to say, for most classrooms the impact of technology was negative. Many teachers and administrators became even more resistant to technology integration as a result.

    Whatever your project, ensure that you budget plenty of money for training and for technical support. This is the best possible expenditure you can make. If you have to cut costs, do it in the hardware and software. It won't be as sexy on paper, but it will have a better chance of succeeding rather than be doomed for failure from the start.

  114. it's the content ... by rodrigo+de+vivar · · Score: 1

    ha ha ha. i could have posted this question, since we are about to undergo another painful round of technology proposals .. at an instructional technology department in a major university.

    yes, infrastructure always comes first: networks and wired classrooms. but then what?

    the model i have been pushing for (for an eternity) is to put our bucks into big software projects that (hopefully) serve lots of students, over a period of years, both at this university and elsewhere. creating this kind of software is no small thing, but i do have at least some evidence that such efforts pay off. we have developed a large grammar reference that serves thousands and thousands of students all over the world. similarly, we are now targeting a project on state government that has the potential of serving at least as many.

    we have professional developers who partner with faculty to develop web-delivered projects. but even with that model, the projects that tend to come our way are relatively esoteric, scholarly, and/or tied to tightly focused research of an individual faculty member: not a bad thing, in and of itself, but not exactly providing bang for the buck for students.

    so our approach is in creating something that provides essential information (and hopefully interactivity) for lots of students over a period of three or more years; or something that fits a world-class scholarly niche, which hasn't been replicated thousands of times elsewhere.

    what this means is that, to get good material, sometimes we have to go arond the academic process and not depend on proposals per se. we either have to encourage people we have identified as ones we can work with to come up with proposals, or we approach a curriculum directly and try to find a way we can provide significant, added value without going through the usual academic channels. anyone who works with academics can perhaps identify with the possible advantages of such an approach.

    having said all of this, in order to have some semblance of accountability --as much as we have talked about and implemented alternative models-- we still have to to through the pain of a proposal process .. another cycle is coming up again, and no one is looking forward to it.

    sometimes we joke that we should just pay people to stay away: that payoff would be their proposal award. just buy 'em TiBooks and be done with it. then we would be free to actually develop content that can be of use to students.

    but the truth is, we still need the proposal process: to catch good and develop-able proposals .. but also to see what is out there, in terms of faculty impetus, good and bad.

    but after all is said and done, we can hopefully continue to have the option of following higher muses, which means working on projects that can actually provide benefit for students. In my experience, such projects tend to be fun to produce, transparent to use (that is, straightforward UI), and accessible (at least major parts don't depend on broadband access).

    may sound like pie-in-the-sky --and it's not the kind of model that would work without at least some funding for professional development-- but if there's anything i've learned from working with technology over xx years in a university setting it's that you have to continually re-focus folks on content or they're going to forever be funding newer infrastructure that just sits there and rots .. while waiting for intelligent use.

    my favorite maxim is that to produce quality content, all you really need are two or three talented, dedicated people sitting in front of three reasonably equipped workstations .. anywhere.

    as some in this thread on Slashdot have pointed out, a university can provide some infrastructure and access for students who don't have alternatives, but increasingly, infrastructure and access are consumer commodities (notwithstanding the sorry lack of universal broadband access in the US. curses to Big Telcos and the ineffectual Telecommunictions Act of 1996).

    we should concentrate on delivering content. and we should continue talking about that to anyone who will listen.

  115. Wonderboy what is the source of your power? by Graymalkin · · Score: 2

    One thing I've always for the longest time wanted to see was a digital library accessible from outside the library's physical building. The stuff I'd want online is documentaries magazine and journals newspapers and maybe even copies of the books themselves. I've seen stuff like this before (called Onlamp I think) but it is mostly just old periodicals and has a shitty search utility. The benefits of having texts of all forms online is it becomes much easier to include passages into papers and easier for professors or TAs to go over the work and see if the student's been copying directly out of the book. While this is indeed a ton of work it might be a doable project because somebody somewhere has already thought of this.

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  116. SSO, "Enterprise web portal". by SyniK · · Score: 1

    UCD SUX. I hate their CS classes.
    But their tech isn't bad (too bad the students never good to hack on anything good like it):
    1) Single Sign On (SSO) for Email, RSVP class registration, Student Information System, Lab PCs, etc. They are using Kerberos to hang it all together.
    2) They have this crazy idea that we need an "Enterprise Portal" (my.ucdavis.edu) to further innovation and move away from systems based applications to function based applications.
    That means that the Banner Student Information System should really just be functional units like class records, add classes, submit grades, etc. Why? Because "Banner" doesn't say anything about what the system is about. Therefore, newbies have a hard time learning it.

    http://nba.ucdavis.edu/ -- A New Business Architecture for UC Davis.

    The SSO is cool ;).

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    -Tom
  117. Look to other shools for ideas by slank · · Score: 1
    UT has some great web applications they provide to students:And more. I'm sure other universities have similar offerings. Just look around.
  118. Content is king by varontron · · Score: 1

    Many technology projects "for the people" are too ambitious. As any implementer knows, buy-in and pr are essential to a succesful rollout, particularly with a lot of complexity.

    The key for success I think is to leverage existing assets, trends, and needs, in order to bring the school into a digital mindset.

    I reccommend something that would thrust the school into the future. Something that would itself encourage everyone to use it. Something that would eventually lead to more funding for technology to build out the infrastructure.

    Digitize all the content owned by the university and catalog it according to an existing metadata standard. Then, plug it into a dynamic web-publishing system with built-in collaboration tools.

    With access to alot of coursework online, and the ability to discuss, comment, embellish, and self-publish, students will find the system useful.

    The university will have the freedom to repurpose content to multiple distribution paths, like university coalitions, e-learning initiatives, even DVD's of entire courses for distance-learners ($$$).

    What's more, with collaboration and dynamic publishing, all interaction through the system can be repurposed as well.

    There are open-source tools which can fit these needs, hardware is cheap. Students work for free. The big money should be saved for digital rights management.

  119. blocking cell phones by kidlinux · · Score: 1

    How about blocking cell phone frequencies from every class room, lecture hall, and laboratory. Cell phones ringing during a lecture makes me crazy, and I'm a student. If I were a professor, I'd go bloody postal. No one should have a cell phone in class - it's very rude, and very disruptive. And I don't care if they forgot to turn it off, one ring is one ring too many. It's never just one ring either. The student with the phone has to root through their jacket or back pack to find the phone and turn it off - usually 3+ rings later.
    And seriously, unless you're a student with some kind of job that requires you to have a cell phone at all times (yeah right, how many students have that kind of job) you don't need to have a bloody phone with you at all times! Leave the thing at home for the sake of your class mates, and your embarassment.
    I'm fairly certain there isn't any student who needs a phone in class. None of the students whose phone has rang in my classes have ever answered it. They turn it off as quickly as they can, while 200+ people stare them down.

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    -kidlinux.
    1. Re:blocking cell phones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, f--k you, buddy. I think we can take care of ourselves without you blocking out our wireless internet along with the cell phones. Sheesh, mind-your-business.

    2. Re:blocking cell phones by kidlinux · · Score: 1

      I'm sure if the course required that you be on the internet, there'd be computers in class. Browse the web and check your email at home; you're in class for a reason.

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      -kidlinux.
  120. wander around ... by Alien+Being · · Score: 1

    Why in my day, we had to trod thru snow three feet deep...

    You refreshed a few 20 year old neurons with that remark though. I can remember the registrar's office with the box of little pencils on the counter. How quaint!

    But the school was up-to-date in some ways. The campus police had terminals connected to CompSci's VAX to manage parking tickets. The bastards.

  121. Technology is not only computers (almost though) by scubaed · · Score: 1

    I'm a student at GATECH which also charges students for a technology fee, one of the reasons being that it's easier to get such fee past the regents than a tuition increase, and that there is always a need for new technology that would not be covered in any other form (it's easy to buy computers for research, but unless large industry donors are interested in a particular program, it's hard to find the money for classroom computers). I have also been one of the student members of the technology fee commitee (2 undergrad students, 2 grad students, 4 faculty) for the last 3 years.

    Georgia Tech also asks for computers being owned by undergrad students, and curiously this instead of reducing the demand for campus clusters, has increased it, as the well as the demand for campus printers. All the dorms and the greeks have campus internet connectivity, and wireless access is being implemented on many buildings (some of it from these technology funds).

    The process in place (which we will be modifying very soon) requires that schools, departments, and student organizations write proposals requesting the use of such fees. And once a year the schools rank their proposals, and the main commitee reviews these proposals and suggest fund assignments accordingly. Being in a campus-wide committee lets us see the clear disparity between campus entities, while some are asking for $500K+ mostly useless items in their proposals, others just ask for $1K- for memory upgrades to their 300MHz computers.

    Over the last 3 years I have seen the technology requests raise from 35 or so proposals to 130, and from barely $2E6 to almost $9E6. Of these, about 2/3 are computers, or somewhat computer related proposals. However a significant amount, which are normally large ticket items, are for tools that could not be funded otherwise. i.e. mass spectrometers, CNC machines, oscilloscopes, plasma cutters, compressors, pumps, differential GPS systems, liquid flow demostration equipment, electric properties labs, etc.

    However the majority of the funds are being used for campus-wide or college-wide software licenses, computer clusters, presentation-enabled rooms, student participations systems, "smart" boards, student-managed web/mail/file/streaming servers, video cameras, video editing stations, bewolf clusters, and even basic security systems (as a means to protect our investments).

    We do make a point of not spending the funds in basic infrastructure (like lab remodeling) or salaries (unless a short-term student position is very-well justified), or on items that are mostly research-oriented, or clearly professor-centric (i.e. a new top of the line laptop, or palm device).

    After my long tenure in the committee, this has become very clear:

    • If we left the IT department in charge of the money there would be nothing left for the real needs of the campus. Their proposals normally exceed 50% of the available funds, have long lists of personnel, and exagerated items (do dorm rooms really need 100Base-T ports with direct connection to the central ATM gateways?), and even though many "presentation-enabled" classrooms have been outfitted (at $20K a pop), and most of them are normally unused, we get 10+ new requests for these a year.
    • Students have to be part of the process, otherwise the real needs would probably be masked by an apparently good proposal that has no real use for the student body, or by a very bad one that has a great potential (this has been shown many times in our meetings).
    • Something that is lacking in our process, but that is clearly necessary, is that students have to be the ones that evaluate the spendings (i.e. judge how much utilization a computer cluster, or some particular software has, do a follow-up on the use of promising new technologies, verify if a piece of equipment is being applied to its intended use, etc.), after all, we are the ones being taxed with this fee.
  122. Use Wikis by stephanruby · · Score: 1
    Save your money and try Wikis you can try swiki.net or you can try the Wiki in my signature.

    Stephan

  123. tech support, perhaps? by maxpublic · · Score: 1

    Try hiring tech support that exhibits some small ability to actually problem solve. Tech support at the University level is some of the worst I've ever seen; and even more appalling, these pseudo-geeks actually think they're savvy. I've run into more obnoxious, arrogant little fools in University tech departments than in any private company, their idiocy only exceeded by their contempt for the people they supposedly support.

    Max

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  124. Uses for Extra funding... by Mid · · Score: 1

    The Uni I work at has just started a trial on portable MP3 players, for recording lectures... with the aim of streaming them in a format students are familiar with, are fairly small per our of voice. We currently have four recorders on order (two memory card, two hard drive) to see which works best. Hopefully in a few years time you'll be able to wirelessly use your palm/player to download and play lectures in the common room or park. It beats lectures.

  125. Re:Little innovation right now + many lazy people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yeah right, at my University people even stole the mouse balls.

    The laptops would just never come back after the summer break.

  126. eureka by 3.2.3 · · Score: 1

    i've got it. it's so obvious. invest in a technology which will return aimlessly collected student fees to students. you know, something like a real 'backbone'.

  127. wow this is what we are doing in my university by john_uy · · Score: 1

    i just would like to give a brief infor about what we are doing with the information development fee (or technology fee in your case):

    1. we are placing a computer in each classroom with internet access, lcd projector, vcd,vhs players

    2. we are offering free training to faculty for applications of microsoft, adobe, and macromedia.

    3. we are using it to get a bandwidth ratio of 2mbits/150 computers

    we plan to increase the fee so we can do the additional stuff:

    1. create an online video/audio archive that will store self-produced materials and purchased documentaries

    2. create an online database of published journals by the students and teachers

    3. create an archiving system to digitize all records (books, grades, etc.) that are 1985 and earlier (we have lots of those)

    4. create a student portal where they can see their grades, arrange schedules, message boards, e-mail system, etc.

    5. purchase more computers to be placed throughout the library

    i hope this will help you. i am very happy that this article has been posted. it is similar to what we have been doing for the past 2 years.

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  128. Try UMUC.edu for online classes by b0bby · · Score: 1

    I've taken a couple of computer related classes at University of Maryland University College - the continuing ed part of UM. There are a bunch of classes, & I've been happy with them. They're the same classes, for the same fee, as you'd get on campus. Last class I took there were people from all over the US & at least one in Europe...

  129. Give the money back and let the students decide! by KmArT · · Score: 1

    How about this: instead of tacking on yet another fee for frivolous items that students have to pay at institutions of higher learning, drop the fee and let the students have the extra $50-$500 a year. Let them buy their own technology with that extra cash instead of letting some bureaucrat pad the coffers of the university.

  130. Scheduling / notes / etc. by oneiros27 · · Score: 2

    I've seen blackboard mentioned, but that's normally just one part of the puzzle. Blackboard doesn't handle all of the class registration part of the puzzle. There is one, called 'Banner' from SCT, which handles it, but from my personal experience, it's a pain in the ass, as every upgrade to the system requires re-applying your configurations to it. [Which might take multiple man-years to apply for some colleges]

    Supposedly, PeopleSoft has a module specifically for educational institutions, but I've never seen it. I also know that there was work being done up at Harvard back in 1996 for basically what you said above. I have no idea what ever became of it.

    As for getting students to use the system -- students have a 4 year turnover. You can get an over 95% compliance in 4 years just because they don't know what the old system was. Your problem lies in administration. And you can't have students do this work, due to restrictions by FERPA. It would have to be tightly controled by the Office of the Registrar or the equivalent office.

    And as a person who was one of those students making enterprise solutions in the mid 1990s, I'd have to say that student run projects are bound to fail in the long run for larger instutions, due to the lack of documentation, and incorrect dependancies on legacy systems. Although students may make good programmers, major projects need to be led by full time personel who are directly responsible for the project.

    (and as for wireless...my university was one of the test beds for Richochet in 1995. Damned nice system for $300/yr at the time... too bad they went under)

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  131. Standardize the systems by meridoc · · Score: 1

    The biggest gripe I had was when I'd start work on a paper or lab report, then have to go to class, then try to continue the report elsewhere, but the software I needed wasn't there or was a different version.

    Spend the money on making sure all the public systems (or, at least, particular labs) have a standard set of software, including a word processor, a graphing program, a music composer (if that's big at your school), a spreadsheet program, and some kind of low-level graphic-creator (even clip art would work for most things).

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  132. Take care of your techs by biohazard99 · · Score: 1

    If you have the cash, take care of the lab assistants/consultants that are hard workers. Pay at UK wasn't particularly great and therefore, some of the consultants were sub par or simply sleepers. As pay rose, the better techs came out of the woodwork looking for jobs.

  133. Uses for Technologies Fund by chittlin · · Score: 1

    Our CIS monies went for more routers and switches in the Cisco Lab and a Lab Server and a classroom LAN in our MS Lab (In addition to our existing school LAN.) We are just now starting to offer *nix classes.

  134. access access access by Fianna · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Top things I've seen done with these tech grants are:

    Laptop checkouts (IceBooks == sweet!)

    Connectivity (wireless is great, but a chicken in every pot, or rather a RJ-45 at every library table or booth is excellent)

    Multimedia (ahh, buzzword! I know, but having a dedicated lab with dual quicksilvers (733? can't remember), copius amounts of macromedia/adobe software and both weekly tutorials AND classes willing to use the stuff makes for happy students who are blending the ol' liberal arts with some more technical skills)

    Bandwidth is an important one, but doing it properly is key. As has been suggested, smart routing to keep the filesharing users from taking all the bandwidth, but without shutting them down, is key

    -jon

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    "It takes an uncommon mind to think of these things." --Calvin