For some reason it reminds me of "kill them while they are in their mothers wombs" nazi-comunist propaganda. RIAA would rather educate them as soon as possible. I may agree on that , but let's add a Clue101 class as well:
ClueList for Kids
1) People lie a lot 2) Expecially Adult people lie a lot 3) There are a lot of Bad Adults 3) RIAA is all made and runned by "adults" 4) RIAA cares alot about their money 5) You don't need RIAA to pay your favourite singers and stars, you can pay thme directly if you so like. This way, bad adults will have less chances of taking the money away from artists.
Look at who's talking now, the guy that actually follows the guy that tracks the satellites. Guess at least the tracker one is doing something useful, who needs a life again dude ?
Very well said. Let me add one tangent to your observations ; while a basketball/sports player is just making the best use of his/her natural psycomotory talents, the actors have the unusual opportunity of being able to reach millions of people with messages thay may or may not contain relevant information. Unfortunately they often play scripts that they didn't conceive or write, but what if some good actor was also a decent writer and had something to say like "get rich quick schemes" are scams and are bad ? Add this will and skill to a geek armed with a decent PC and video editing skill and we may soon have an example of cross fertilization at work.
Ohoh what a royal pain ! Hear me roar ! And what exactly is the difference between a console and a PC ? Expecially when the console is manufactured in a way it IS a pc with a "This is XBOX console sticker" over it ? Guess WHO really has got a clue on what hardware is what ? Don't look in your mirror for answers.
Also, plug n'play or "plug and pray" as some user call the feature is ALSO on PC. That doesn't mean AT ALL that M$ or any other company can do whatever the fcsk they want on the machine I AM using, expecially DELETING data. From people perspective that's messing with something that I was using without asking my permission first, what if your car mechanic reprogrammed your car ignition system without asking ? Would you call it an upgrade because it now runs faster or call it a mess because it now doesn't meet emission standards or is reducing the useful like of your engine ? OH but it's just a software patch it doesn't do that...maybe.
Oh and the offence of modding a device ! We really are devil, probably terrorist because we use our BRAIN to do more while you rest yours to PAY more. Again who has got a CLUE again ?
Now , driver deaths per million registered vehicle years is important in this report What is its use ? We don't know how many hours were spent driving and how many hours spent in a car park. It is stating that given that one car class A caused 1000 deaths in x registration years it is safer then another car class B that caused 2000 deaths in x registration years. It is NOT necessarily safer, maybe class A cars were parked most of the times (for instace try driving a SUV in NY, oh happy joy)
Keeping on reading the report, we see that they considered the "exposition years" of all models and correctly (somehow) adjusted the results so that exposition years are accounted in their "confidence intervals". They could have added the metodology and the calculations, but somehow they forgot. Let's bend over and give them the benefit of doubt, they in good faith forgot to detail their calculation methods ; the report keeps track of fatal accidents, doesn't talk about permanent injuries. Hopefully they'll add it in the future, being on a wheelchair for the rest of your life is, for someone, nearly as good as death.
Also, and that's the most important thing IMHo, there's no report on which kind of car caused death. All other conditions equal it is obvious that a medium car hit by a SUV is going to suffer more damage then the SUV. Maybe both are nearly destroyed by the accident, but the medium car owner has more chances to die or to receive permanent injury. That doesn't mean at all that SUVs should be banned, but a SUV owner should pay more when an accident with a less protected car happens and he/she is found to be guilty of the accident, for I don't see why the injuried person should bear the cost of SUV owner privilege of owning a safer more expensive car. Drive that truck safely or don't drive it at all.
On your tagline "There are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare." - Blair Houghton
"If there were one million monkeys and one monkey with the skill of Shakespeare type writing on Usenet , it would require more then one monkey reader to find out Shakespeare in a billion messages" - Elpapacito
Imagine an LCD-like dress that can be easily reprogrammed to show any combination of colors and image. I would like to be free from a fashion dictated by somebody else then me.
From a techincal point of view, a shirt calculating your blood pressure , sugar or alcool level in your blood and other medical parameters would be a very valuable tool, as long as it doesn't also broadcast the data like the nasty RDIF tag in theory could.
There's a number of CDs which have already experienced 10 years of mistreatements, I wonder if any mass producing company has already learned something valuable and if they modified their production accordingly. Polycarbonate-eating fungi were already mentioned here and on Nature as well. Add the aluminum layer oxidation problem and my trust on cd-r as long term storage is reaching zero. I also own a couple of 10+ years old CDs (original, shush RIAA) that don't show any surface problem, but no player I have tried can play it anymore.
As the guy before me said, you talk like you own your song/intellectual work ; you may actually be the inventor, but the exploitment rights are no longer yours and you probably sold it for little money. Granted that you don't take the risk of producing and selling the product , but you would not have anything competitive or anything at all to sell without the inventor as well. The way it seems to be, there are a few huge industry and a number of medium and little industries that only add overhead expenses (read, they leech money) without adding any real innovation value. If it's an invention, it may cost more when it's first sold, but in the long term it must always cost less otherwise the company is just amassing unjustified extra-profits (read, they're squeezing every dime out of your invention while sitting on their fat asses). Leechers.
If it's written by some phd student you'll find many paragraphs of it all around the place and if you're lucky even in some western government blackout report.
a) local library doesn't have infinite copies of books, usually one or at very best two (in my experience). Which means the book may not be avaiable when you have time to read it. Now this isn't a problem for a frivolous book , but it may be if the book is expensive and you need to read it now.
b)the author, as usual, sees only a fraction of the profits, just because people is still used to read books on paper. Paper manufacturing process is relatively expensive, distribution is very expensive, Amazon gets a good cut of profits just because they probably order in tens of thousands of profiteable books like Harry Potteer : curiously their prices aren't $3 per book.
c) you say "this is just a bunch of cheap fuckers who can't be bothered to fork over $18 on Amazon.com for a pre-order". $18 may be little for your pockets , but a lot for other pockets. Using the same kind of pointless "cheap fuckers" generalization you used, I say "you spoiled brat, don't ask pop for money go get a job and earn your book you parasite".
Oh nice attempt to troll me , but it doesn't work. Read again my posting you cluebait, noticed any irony ? First some company claim indian companies are evil pirates, then they happily outsource work to them, at the expense of american workers..mh and some american workers aren't chasing companies with a stick , but they'd rather chase indians. How stupid is that ?
Oh btw, you're just happy of trolling and yapping against americans as soon as a chance is given to you, aren't you ?
Oh, India. Very nice country, nice people, nice girls , comparatevily starving and they're also pirating drugs developed by rich western countries to cure their HIV patients at sustainable prices. Nice idea , nice purporse.
Interesting fact: some company may choose or have already choosen to outsource their intellectual property developement to india. To a country of pirates ??! (pirates according to many pharmaceutical companies for sure). Bad idea in my book.
Oh, but indians accept to be paid a couple dimes...
Yes, it's only because of money. And it sucks. And it's incredibly stupid.
Both you guys are saying the same thing I think ? Anyway it's not unusual to see some "kind of manager" act like a complete asshat, but when they face an ongoing fact (read:leaving for alaska) they drop their pants so fast you wonder if they ever wearead any.
Everything in your message makes sense to me, except the last statement that seems to overlook a _very_ important problem: there is no need for an online voting system. Remember the rule, "if it isn't broken, don't fix it " ? Paper voting has worked for many years, surely not without organizational and optimization problems, but it worked. Clearly the weakest link is , again, the human link. Voters can be bought, but that's considered "fair" by someone... election officials can be bought, but it involves , for instace, corrupting 10 people instead of one who is 1) well inside the security organization 2) knows all the weakness of the system 3) knows how to destroy electronic trails. With the incredible amount of power and money being involved in any election, any person can be corrupted in seconds, but corrupting 100 or 1000 people is much much harder and dangerous.
Wait, good managing isn't realizing you don't know jack about something so you need to hire somebody else who knows about technology. That is the conditio sine qua non for even attempting an enterprise that isn't a scam. I mean even attempting a garage sales requires understanding one must first check with local law to see if it's allowed without any kind of bookeeping.
Is that managing ? Obviously it is. But another kind of managing, much more complex, is the kind one must do when developing a new product or introducing innnovation in a product.
Unfortunately, once a sellable product is obtained the manager may choose to reduce investment on innovation (in other words, cut developing costs) because he/she is also pressed by investors/bank who don't give a flying F about innovation, all they care about is money and that's pretty obvious, a bank business involves financing not developing/selling goods.
If an at least temporary equilibrium is achieved the average manager will almost surely take the least risky path of keeping on selling the good that is currently selling, instead of attempting to develop new ones.
The way things seem like, the guys/girls who developed the product from scratch (read, technicians/researchers) often if not always see only a fraction of the revenue from the product because securing a right on revenues is extremely difficult. But they are the ones that are most likely to develop new products, not the manager.
Today we learned that 1) Yes, you can spot the obvious 2) Yes, you know better than him/her yet you're paid a lot less (?) or not paid at all. 3) Yes, you spent 5 minutes of your life realizing all of that, writing it down and giving in out for free to slashdot, which is proof prooved you're not slimy so you can't be a consultant (or not slimy enough, given today standard of BSitting)
Good point, but pay attention to the fact that the unknow effects may be much worse then control of the food chain. For instace, you can have control of the food chain, but you must sell if you want profits. But if you can no longer sell because you destroyed the good crops because of an error, you're extinct.
So according to what appears to be a circular argument, more caution is due when something goes wrong. So what's the point of being cautious if nothing has gone wrong so far ? The problem is that sometimes it is too late to repair the damages made by a wrong decision. That's the reason behind being extra cautious about releasing products when the potential damages of doing something wrong are unknown, exactly like it appears to be in the genetic engineering field.
There's no relation between air polluted by emission of burned coal/some combustible and huts/small pox. Industrialization of production made mass scale production possible and this is only one factor that may have played a role in the discovery of cure of smallpox or other disease. You first need to have
1) knowledge of what causes the disease 2) will to cure the disease 3) will to mass produce the cure for the disease once found
The way primitive industrialist were concerned about their workforce was such that they could care less if an handful of childs died because of their total lack of interest for workforce living conditions. They weren't in the business for progress, but for profits.
For some reason it reminds me of "kill them while they are in their mothers wombs" nazi-comunist propaganda. RIAA would rather educate them as soon as possible. I may agree on that , but let's add a Clue101 class as well:
ClueList for Kids
1) People lie a lot
2) Expecially Adult people lie a lot
3) There are a lot of Bad Adults
3) RIAA is all made and runned by "adults"
4) RIAA cares alot about their money
5) You don't need RIAA to pay your favourite
singers and stars, you can pay thme directly
if you so like. This way, bad adults will have
less chances of taking the money away from artists.
I was on a IRC channel followign the voting and that's what I've made of its log. Please don't hold your breath over it's unofficial.
:
Carried - Approved amendments:
12 - 24 - 28 - 36/42/117 - 107 - 69 - 55/97/108 - 38/44/118 -15S - 16 Part 1 and 2 - 100 Part 1
57/99/110 - 70 - 17 - 60 - 102/111 - 72 - 103/119 - 104/120 Part 1 - 76 Part 1 - 71 Part 1
81 - 93 - 94 - 89 -1 - 88 - 31 - 32/112 - 84 Parts 1,2,3 - 114/125 - 34/115 - 85 - 86 Part 1
86 Part 3 -75
Rejected amendments:
29/41/59 - 116/126 - 37/39/43 - 127 - 46 - 48 - 82 - 100 Part 2 - 87 - 76 Part 2 - 106 - 71 Part 2
30 - 123 - 124
Falled ?
105 - 50 - 91/21/90
Look at who's talking now, the guy that actually follows the guy that tracks the satellites. Guess at least the tracker one is doing something useful, who needs a life again dude ?
Very well said. Let me add one tangent to your observations ; while a basketball/sports player is just making the best use of his/her natural psycomotory talents, the actors have the unusual opportunity of being able to reach millions of people with messages thay may or may not contain relevant information. Unfortunately they often play scripts that they didn't conceive or write, but what if some good actor was also a decent writer and had something to say like "get rich quick schemes" are scams and are bad ? Add this will and skill to a geek armed with a decent PC and video editing skill and we may soon have an example of cross fertilization at work.
Ohoh what a royal pain ! Hear me roar ! And what exactly is the difference between a console and a PC ? Expecially when the console is manufactured in a way it IS a pc with a "This is XBOX console sticker" over it ? Guess WHO really has got a clue on what hardware is what ? Don't look in your mirror for answers.
Also, plug n'play or "plug and pray" as some user call the feature is ALSO on PC. That doesn't mean AT ALL that M$ or any other company can do whatever the fcsk they want on the machine I AM using, expecially DELETING data. From people perspective that's messing with something that I was using without asking my permission first, what if your car mechanic reprogrammed your car ignition system without asking ? Would you call it an upgrade because it now runs faster or call it a mess because it now doesn't meet emission standards or is reducing the useful like of your engine ? OH but it's just a software patch it doesn't do that...maybe.
Oh and the offence of modding a device ! We really are devil, probably terrorist because we use our BRAIN to do more while you rest yours
to PAY more. Again who has got a CLUE again ?
Now , driver deaths per million registered vehicle years is important in this report
What is its use ? We don't know how many hours were spent driving and how many hours
spent in a car park. It is stating that given that one car class A caused 1000 deaths
in x registration years it is safer then another car class B that caused 2000 deaths
in x registration years. It is NOT necessarily safer, maybe class A cars were parked
most of the times (for instace try driving a SUV in NY, oh happy joy)
Keeping on reading the report, we see that they considered the "exposition years"
of all models and correctly (somehow) adjusted the results so that exposition
years are accounted in their "confidence intervals". They could have added the
metodology and the calculations, but somehow they forgot. Let's bend over and give
them the benefit of doubt, they in good faith forgot to detail their calculation
methods ; the report keeps track of fatal accidents, doesn't talk about permanent
injuries. Hopefully they'll add it in the future, being on a wheelchair for the
rest of your life is, for someone, nearly as good as death.
Also, and that's the most important thing IMHo, there's no report on which kind of
car caused death. All other conditions equal it is obvious that a medium car hit
by a SUV is going to suffer more damage then the SUV. Maybe both are nearly destroyed
by the accident, but the medium car owner has more chances to die or to receive
permanent injury. That doesn't mean at all that SUVs should be banned, but a SUV
owner should pay more when an accident with a less protected car happens and he/she
is found to be guilty of the accident, for I don't see why the injuried person should
bear the cost of SUV owner privilege of owning a safer more expensive car. Drive that
truck safely or don't drive it at all.
On your tagline
"There are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare." - Blair Houghton
"If there were one million monkeys and one
monkey with the skill of Shakespeare type
writing on Usenet , it would require more
then one monkey reader to find out Shakespeare
in a billion messages" - Elpapacito
As long as the exercise doesn't involve going back to the stone age I agree.
Imagine an LCD-like dress that can be easily reprogrammed to show any combination of colors and image. I would like to be free from a fashion dictated by somebody else then me.
From a techincal point of view, a shirt calculating your blood pressure , sugar or alcool level in your blood and other medical parameters would be a very valuable tool, as long as it doesn't also broadcast the data like the nasty RDIF tag in theory could.
Massive redundacy = more material = more costs. Which data is worth the expense, which isn't ?
There's a number of CDs which have already experienced 10 years of mistreatements, I wonder if any mass producing company has already learned something valuable and if they modified their production accordingly. Polycarbonate-eating fungi were already mentioned here and on Nature as well. Add the aluminum layer oxidation problem and my trust on cd-r as long term storage is reaching zero. I also own a couple of 10+ years old CDs (original, shush RIAA) that don't show any surface problem, but no player I have tried can play it anymore.
As the guy before me said, you talk like you own your song/intellectual work ; you may actually be the inventor, but the exploitment rights are no longer yours and you probably sold it for little money. Granted that you don't take the risk of producing and selling the product , but you would not have anything competitive or anything at all to sell without the inventor as well. The way it seems to be, there are a few huge industry and a number of medium and little industries that only add overhead expenses (read, they leech money) without adding any real innovation value. If it's an invention, it may cost more when it's first sold, but in the long term it must always cost less otherwise the company is just amassing unjustified extra-profits (read, they're squeezing every dime out of your invention while sitting on their fat asses). Leechers.
If it's written by some phd student you'll find many paragraphs of it all around the place and if you're lucky even in some western government blackout report.
There are a few problems you didn't factor in:
a) local library doesn't have infinite copies
of books, usually one or at very best two (in my experience). Which means the book may not be avaiable when you have time to read it. Now this isn't a problem for a frivolous book , but it may be if the book is expensive and you need to read
it now.
b)the author, as usual, sees only a fraction of the profits, just because people is still used to read books on paper. Paper manufacturing process is relatively expensive, distribution is very expensive, Amazon gets a good cut of profits just because they probably order in tens of thousands of profiteable books like Harry Potteer : curiously their prices aren't $3 per book.
c) you say "this is just a bunch of cheap fuckers who can't be bothered to fork over $18 on Amazon.com for a pre-order". $18 may be little for your pockets , but a lot for other pockets. Using the same kind of pointless "cheap fuckers" generalization you used, I say "you spoiled brat, don't ask pop for money go get a job and earn your book you parasite".
Oh nice attempt to troll me , but it doesn't work. Read again my posting you cluebait, noticed any irony ? First some company claim indian companies are evil pirates, then they happily outsource work to them, at the expense of american workers ..mh and some american workers aren't chasing companies with a stick , but they'd rather chase indians. How stupid is that ?
Oh btw, you're just happy of trolling and yapping against americans as soon as a chance is given to you, aren't you ?
Oh, India. Very nice country, nice people, nice girls , comparatevily starving and they're also
pirating drugs developed by rich western countries to cure their HIV patients at sustainable prices. Nice idea , nice purporse.
Interesting fact: some company may choose or have already choosen to outsource their intellectual property developement to india. To a country of pirates ??! (pirates according to many pharmaceutical companies for sure). Bad idea in my book.
Oh, but indians accept to be paid a couple dimes...
Yes, it's only because of money. And it sucks.
And it's incredibly stupid.
Both you guys are saying the same thing I think ? Anyway it's not unusual to see some "kind of manager" act like a complete asshat, but when they face an ongoing fact (read:leaving for alaska) they drop their pants so fast you wonder if they ever wearead any.
Everything in your message makes sense to me, except the last statement that seems to overlook a _very_ important problem: there is no need for an online voting system. Remember the rule, "if it isn't broken, don't fix it " ? Paper voting has worked for many years, surely not without organizational and optimization problems, but it worked. Clearly the weakest link is , again, the human link. Voters can be bought, but that's considered "fair" by someone... election officials can be bought, but it involves , for instace, corrupting 10 people instead of one who is 1) well inside the security organization 2) knows all the weakness of the system 3) knows how to destroy electronic trails. With the incredible amount of power and money being involved in any election, any person can be corrupted in seconds, but corrupting 100 or 1000 people is much much harder and dangerous.
Wait, good managing isn't realizing you don't know jack about something so you need to hire somebody else who knows about technology. That is the conditio sine qua non for even attempting an enterprise that isn't a scam. I mean even attempting a garage sales requires understanding one must first check with local law to see if it's allowed without any kind of bookeeping.
Is that managing ? Obviously it is. But another kind of managing, much more complex, is the kind one must do when developing a new product or introducing innnovation in a product.
Unfortunately, once a sellable product is obtained the manager may choose to reduce investment on innovation (in other words, cut developing costs) because he/she is also pressed by investors/bank who don't give a flying F about innovation, all they care about is money and that's pretty obvious, a bank business involves financing not developing/selling goods.
If an at least temporary equilibrium is achieved the average manager will almost surely take the least risky path of keeping on selling the good that is currently selling, instead of attempting to develop new ones.
The way things seem like, the guys/girls who developed the product from scratch (read, technicians/researchers) often if not always see only a fraction of the revenue from the product because securing a right on revenues is extremely difficult. But they are the ones that are most likely to develop new products, not the manager.
Today we learned that
1) Yes, you can spot the obvious
2) Yes, you know better than him/her yet you're paid a lot less (?) or not paid at all.
3) Yes, you spent 5 minutes of your life realizing all of that, writing it down and giving in out for free to slashdot, which is proof prooved you're not slimy so you can't be a consultant (or not slimy enough, given today standard of BSitting)
Probably Brazilian readers find it meaningful
Good point, but pay attention to the fact that the unknow effects may be much worse then control of the food chain. For instace, you can have control of the food chain, but you must sell if you want profits. But if you can no longer sell because you destroyed the good crops because of an error, you're extinct.
So you hated working in the lab because you didn't understand what was going on or because you thought IT is more simple then biochem ?
So according to what appears to be a circular argument, more caution is due when something goes wrong. So what's the point of being cautious if nothing has gone wrong so far ? The problem is that sometimes it is too late to repair the damages made by a wrong decision. That's the reason behind being extra cautious about releasing products when the potential damages of doing something wrong are unknown, exactly like it appears to be in the genetic engineering field.
There's no relation between air polluted by emission of burned coal/some combustible and huts/small pox. Industrialization of production made mass scale production possible and this is only one factor that may have played a role in the discovery of cure of smallpox or other disease. You first need to have
1) knowledge of what causes the disease
2) will to cure the disease
3) will to mass produce the cure for the disease once found
The way primitive industrialist were concerned about their workforce was such that they could care less if an handful of childs died because
of their total lack of interest for workforce living conditions. They weren't in the business for progress, but for profits.