> The copyright system is to protect the creator's interests
That is quite simply a LIE.
Copyright exists to benefit society. Any benefit to creators or their interests is only a means to an end.
You speak of "sympathy". You are a MORON. The only reason anything ever gets created is that someone "got something for free". Copyright exists to create intellectual capital. It's not a virtual land grab.
Today's tripe is fodder for the artist or inventor of tomorrow.
...and your total lack of an argument is just so convincing.
You're the one that sounds like he has no clue.
If we are going to ruin people's lives over this stuff we should do a better accounting of it. We should also subject all "property owners" to the constraints. If my real property requires annual payments to the state or to the crown, then so should 30 year old pop hits.
If you are willing to ruin someone's life over a 30 year old pop song, then everyone should know what it's worth and you should be willing to pay the taxes on that amount.
Of course the industry won't want to be saddled with anything that interferes with their "Hollywood accounting".
If you think that James Cameron "ripped off" Ellison then you clearly have not seen the original dreck in question.
Harlan Ellison is the perhaps the single best example of why the law should not give ammunition to has beens. It gives them legal standing to harrass the new talent.
Nevermind "creating" a school play. You can just PERFORM a school play without forking over money YOU DON'T HAVE. These "consumers" just don't get it. You can't even train the performers and composers of tomorrow without creative works of the past. They need to perform something in order to learn their craft.
If you make this prohibitively expensive, you undermine future creative activity. This is a problem not just of "high art" but also of commerce. The RIAA and MPAA need future actors and musicians to exploit. They are threatening their own labor pool.
No you can't. Sometimes there's a delay between when a particular combination of device+PhoneOS is released and the coresponding hack. Plus once you've jailbroken, you are frozen on that release of the OS. You can't update because you'll be unjailbroken again. There might not be a suitable re-jailbreak yet. The world starts to pass you buy as new apps are released that don't support your phone anymore.
What you are advocating doesn't fit in well with the expectations of the platform or it's developers.
Plus, jailbreaking resides in a legal grey area that would get you crucified by Apple fanboys if it were for any purpose that didn't suit iCult marketing.
None of it makes any sense for the sort of "non-geek" user that Apple devices are supposed to be targeted at.
Why bother? Just buy something else. Use something that doesn't involve a company and user community that has no respect for you.
The bigger cards are much more expensive and Apple fanboys like to shout down devices that still have a spinny disk.
I would like a tablet that can make my Archos obsolete.
The problem with anemic devices is that you never know what you will want. So you want a selection. This is why 10 year old iPods had 20G of storage. You didn't have to choose in iTunes, you could choose when you're on the road.
Having a decent amount of storage on your media player means that you can choose on the road even if you are off the grid.
Apple fanboys seem to not grasp this concept of choice and variety.
I want more storage becuase video is BIG. Even iTunes encoded files are BIG. So an anemic device doesn't leave you with very many choices. If you change your mind an hour later you're stuck with a miniscule set of options.
In any other consumer device, exapandable storage isn't even disputed. It's taken as a given. That's for devices that are even more single-purpose than tablets. Yet with a quasi-general-purpose computing device, upgradable storage seems like such a strange thing.
It's a fortunate thing that Apple is in fact alone in this sort of stupidity.
Companies like Nikon and Sony and even Samsung don't buy into similar nonsense and their products reflect it.
In truth: It is Apple that's the odd man out here.
A device that does exactly what it's mean to do and does it very well
+...for limited values of "very well". I jailbroke and later dumped my iPhone because it was a failure as a phone. It was less useful and less usable than a 90s feature phone.
It's like they go out of their way to intentionally lock out the power user and it doesn't take much to be a power user.
Apple products are great if you don't really use them very much. Otherwise they tends to fall down badly as they're designed by idiots like you that thing being pretty is good enough.
Droning on about "apps" like some 80s era IBM commercial is just a red herring to distract from the fact that the core platform is crap (just like MS-DOS).
Except a lot of those features satisfy a number of use cases that even n00bs and rubes would be interested in. The anti-geek Apple contingent has a nasty habit of pretending that everyone is as pedestrian as they are. It simply isn't so.
Even non-geeks can come up with interesting and creative ways to use tech. Even the really helpless types can throw you a genuine curveball every so often.
Consumers aren't nearly as homogenous or as uninteresting as certain people want you to believe.
PC users simply have more choices than that. We're not stuck with whatever singular choice one singular hardware vendor wants to ram down our throats. We have plenty of options and we can pick the one we think is right for us.
Nothing will seem to be some sort of "dominant winner" that the single vendor crowd might be looking for.
The "netbook" was nothing more than a marketing term for hardware that was available at the turn of the millenium but with a lower pricetag. In 2001, a netbook was considered a desktop replacement and cost $2000. A netbook was nothing more than the same hardware with a different label and a bargain pricetag.
We still have slim laptops. Nothing really changed.
> Umm, of course. I copy mp3s out of iTunes all the time for use on other devices, for example. > > What on earth are you on about?
He's not talking about music. It's not 2003 anymore.
Sometimes I wonder if Apple fanboys actually do anything meaningful with any of their devices that are supposed to be so fancy and so superior and whatnot.
> How does that cloud work out for you when it rains in Virginia or a hurricane hits and floods all the routing centers?
Yes. How does it work?
Since iTunes glitches when your network has problems, you should already be able to tell us what this situation is like. That is if you actually use this stuff and are at all honest about it.
I will tell you what happens when the network glitches...
You can't watch your iTunes movies because it can't phone home properly. Non-Apple content is fine though. Although you have none of the nice fancy metadata with that content.
What you're willing to put up with on your Dick Tracy setup and what you want out of your 60 inch TV or 160 inch projection setup are worlds apart.
Once you get beyond low quality toys, you have serious integration issues because you don't want to settle for 2nd best. You don't want to tolerate the single vendor solution for idiots because you have more taste than that.
They already have Home Theaters for dummies. Apple could simply have their own branded version next to the rest.
> but you can still use content from other sources
Not really. This is where the Apple approach falls down. It is limited and fixated on the whole "walled garden" mentality. Devices are only designed to work with a limited subset of formats. If you try to use anything you will find yourself quickly out of luck or putting in more effort than if you had just used another vendor's product to start with.
There is no media management. Format support is poor. Integration of 3rd party media is actually a disaster.
It's almost like they are trying to discourage you from using anything that you did not buy from them.
WMC may have it's own problems. However, it is at least it is designed to play something besides video from Microsoft's store.
An Apple fanboy snickering at WMC over format support is absurd to Pythonesque levels.
> The problem is that it was designed to never run linux.
Short of some bogus barrier, there is no such thing.
If it can run some proprietary OS then by definition it can run Linux. Linux runs everwhere including hardware that other desktop operating systems can't touch.
If it's a general purpose machine Linux can run it. If it's a Turing machine then Linux can run it.
The idea that it's "not designed for" is just clueless nonsense.
Fit for purpose also includes running a less broken version of Windows. So any WinDOS machine that prevents me from installing any OS of my chosing is in fact broken.
A force fed version of Windows is pretty much gauranteed to violate at least the spirit of the UCC.
...except that network attached drive will fail sooner or later and when it does the remaining pieces will be more difficult to deal with. If you have a solution based on standard parts and a normal OS, it's a lot easier to put the pieces back together when things go sideways.
You're far better off just adding a drive to an existing PC.
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> The copyright system is to protect the creator's interests
That is quite simply a LIE.
Copyright exists to benefit society. Any benefit to creators or their interests is only a means to an end.
You speak of "sympathy". You are a MORON. The only reason anything ever gets created is that someone "got something for free". Copyright exists to create intellectual capital. It's not a virtual land grab.
Today's tripe is fodder for the artist or inventor of tomorrow.
A number of old shows haven't been released in their original form because of music rights issues.
Similar issues with both copyright and trademark have interfered with the process of making documentaries.
Of course if you are only fixated on licensed remakes of old TV shows and 40 year old comic books, I could see how you would have tunnel vision.
...and your total lack of an argument is just so convincing.
You're the one that sounds like he has no clue.
If we are going to ruin people's lives over this stuff we should do a better accounting of it. We should also subject all "property owners" to the constraints. If my real property requires annual payments to the state or to the crown, then so should 30 year old pop hits.
If you are willing to ruin someone's life over a 30 year old pop song, then everyone should know what it's worth and you should be willing to pay the taxes on that amount.
Of course the industry won't want to be saddled with anything that interferes with their "Hollywood accounting".
James Cameron too.
If you think that James Cameron "ripped off" Ellison then you clearly have not seen the original dreck in question.
Harlan Ellison is the perhaps the single best example of why the law should not give ammunition to has beens. It gives them legal standing to harrass the new talent.
Nevermind "creating" a school play. You can just PERFORM a school play without forking over money YOU DON'T HAVE. These "consumers" just don't get it. You can't even train the performers and composers of tomorrow without creative works of the past. They need to perform something in order to learn their craft.
If you make this prohibitively expensive, you undermine future creative activity. This is a problem not just of "high art" but also of commerce. The RIAA and MPAA need future actors and musicians to exploit. They are threatening their own labor pool.
...then just use a different device.
My phone doesn't need any daft app to use the OTG cable.
You can leave at any time by jailbreaking.
No you can't. Sometimes there's a delay between when a particular combination of device+PhoneOS is released and the coresponding hack. Plus once you've jailbroken, you are frozen on that release of the OS. You can't update because you'll be unjailbroken again. There might not be a suitable re-jailbreak yet. The world starts to pass you buy as new apps are released that don't support your phone anymore.
What you are advocating doesn't fit in well with the expectations of the platform or it's developers.
Plus, jailbreaking resides in a legal grey area that would get you crucified by Apple fanboys if it were for any purpose that didn't suit iCult marketing.
None of it makes any sense for the sort of "non-geek" user that Apple devices are supposed to be targeted at.
Why bother? Just buy something else. Use something that doesn't involve a company and user community that has no respect for you.
The bigger cards are much more expensive and Apple fanboys like to shout down devices that still have a spinny disk.
I would like a tablet that can make my Archos obsolete.
The problem with anemic devices is that you never know what you will want. So you want a selection. This is why 10 year old iPods had 20G of storage. You didn't have to choose in iTunes, you could choose when you're on the road.
Having a decent amount of storage on your media player means that you can choose on the road even if you are off the grid.
Apple fanboys seem to not grasp this concept of choice and variety.
I want more storage becuase video is BIG. Even iTunes encoded files are BIG. So an anemic device doesn't leave you with very many choices. If you change your mind an hour later you're stuck with a miniscule set of options.
In any other consumer device, exapandable storage isn't even disputed. It's taken as a given. That's for devices that are even more single-purpose than tablets. Yet with a quasi-general-purpose computing device, upgradable storage seems like such a strange thing.
It's a fortunate thing that Apple is in fact alone in this sort of stupidity.
Companies like Nikon and Sony and even Samsung don't buy into similar nonsense and their products reflect it.
In truth: It is Apple that's the odd man out here.
A device that does exactly what it's mean to do and does it very well
+...for limited values of "very well". I jailbroke and later dumped my iPhone because it was a failure as a phone. It was less useful and less usable than a 90s feature phone.
It's like they go out of their way to intentionally lock out the power user and it doesn't take much to be a power user.
Apple products are great if you don't really use them very much. Otherwise they tends to fall down badly as they're designed by idiots like you that thing being pretty is good enough.
Droning on about "apps" like some 80s era IBM commercial is just a red herring to distract from the fact that the core platform is crap (just like MS-DOS).
BTW notice how you never see "wish lists" from iPad users..
You are not the only iPad user.
"Wish lists" are only for those with flawed devices.
Or people that aren't mindless camp followers.
And, does anyone actually use Android tablets?
Sure. Early adopters that got fed up with your kind of mindless attitude.
I can buy a 14-hole chromatic harmonica. A pair of ostrich-skin boots.
It does not require a multi-billion dollar investment to create a 14 whole chromatic harmonica or a pair of ostrich skin boots.
Neither does a speciality variant of some computing device that runs some standard OS (libre or not).
If some Linux PC vendor can manage it's own Android tablet, then it can't be as as burdensome as you're trying to make it out.
Except a lot of those features satisfy a number of use cases that even n00bs and rubes would be interested in. The anti-geek Apple contingent has a nasty habit of pretending that everyone is as pedestrian as they are. It simply isn't so.
Even non-geeks can come up with interesting and creative ways to use tech. Even the really helpless types can throw you a genuine curveball every so often.
Consumers aren't nearly as homogenous or as uninteresting as certain people want you to believe.
PC users simply have more choices than that. We're not stuck with whatever singular choice one singular hardware vendor wants to ram down our throats. We have plenty of options and we can pick the one we think is right for us.
Nothing will seem to be some sort of "dominant winner" that the single vendor crowd might be looking for.
The "netbook" was nothing more than a marketing term for hardware that was available at the turn of the millenium but with a lower pricetag. In 2001, a netbook was considered a desktop replacement and cost $2000. A netbook was nothing more than the same hardware with a different label and a bargain pricetag.
We still have slim laptops. Nothing really changed.
The MBA is just the Apple netbook.
Roku runs Plex without the need for jailbreaking.
That puts it head and shoulders above an AppleTV right there.
> Umm, of course. I copy mp3s out of iTunes all the time for use on other devices, for example.
>
> What on earth are you on about?
He's not talking about music. It's not 2003 anymore.
Sometimes I wonder if Apple fanboys actually do anything meaningful with any of their devices that are supposed to be so fancy and so superior and whatnot.
> How does that cloud work out for you when it rains in Virginia or a hurricane hits and floods all the routing centers?
Yes. How does it work?
Since iTunes glitches when your network has problems, you should already be able to tell us what this situation is like. That is if you actually use this stuff and are at all honest about it.
I will tell you what happens when the network glitches...
You can't watch your iTunes movies because it can't phone home properly. Non-Apple content is fine though. Although you have none of the nice fancy metadata with that content.
What you're willing to put up with on your Dick Tracy setup and what you want out of your 60 inch TV or 160 inch projection setup are worlds apart.
Once you get beyond low quality toys, you have serious integration issues because you don't want to settle for 2nd best. You don't want to tolerate the single vendor solution for idiots because you have more taste than that.
They already have Home Theaters for dummies. Apple could simply have their own branded version next to the rest.
> but you can still use content from other sources
Not really. This is where the Apple approach falls down. It is limited and fixated on the whole "walled garden" mentality. Devices are only designed to work with a limited subset of formats. If you try to use anything you will find yourself quickly out of luck or putting in more effort than if you had just used another vendor's product to start with.
There is no media management. Format support is poor. Integration of 3rd party media is actually a disaster.
It's almost like they are trying to discourage you from using anything that you did not buy from them.
WMC may have it's own problems. However, it is at least it is designed to play something besides video from Microsoft's store.
An Apple fanboy snickering at WMC over format support is absurd to Pythonesque levels.
> The problem is that it was designed to never run linux.
Short of some bogus barrier, there is no such thing.
If it can run some proprietary OS then by definition it can run Linux. Linux runs everwhere including hardware that other desktop operating systems can't touch.
If it's a general purpose machine Linux can run it. If it's a Turing machine then Linux can run it.
The idea that it's "not designed for" is just clueless nonsense.
There's nothing "rational" about that post.
It's MY hardware. Once I buy it it becomes MY personal property to use any way I see fit.
Your corporate bootlicking is not "rational".
Fit for purpose also includes running a less broken version of Windows. So any WinDOS machine that prevents me from installing any OS of my chosing is in fact broken.
A force fed version of Windows is pretty much gauranteed to violate at least the spirit of the UCC.
It's a Turing machine. It's "designed" to use ANY OS.
The only thing stopping Linux from being loaded here is a very artificial hurdle. It has nothing to do with "design".
...except that network attached drive will fail sooner or later and when it does the remaining pieces will be more difficult to deal with. If you have a solution based on standard parts and a normal OS, it's a lot easier to put the pieces back together when things go sideways.
You're far better off just adding a drive to an existing PC.
It will be no more complicated to maintain.