HERE! HERE! It's nice to see an unbiased K5er such as yourself chime in to back me up. To H-E double hockeystick with those point and click mazes one has to go through to find things with a "gooweys". It's good that people like you and myself will be around when the outlook virus that ends the world happens so we can help retrain the unclued masses. I will shed a tear that day like the Indian in those old irish spring commercials. But it will be a tear of joy my friend.
Oh yeah. I'm sure they both just pulled the date right out of their ass. They made a release date up and were not told one by Valve. What is your point exactly?
Seeing as how Microsoft doesn't seem to be rapidly gaining any ground in the browser wars, or the mid-range server OS wars, or the gaming console wars anymore, it might be good for them to concentrate on an instant messenger war for a little while so they can remember what it was like to win a war.
Maybe it's because they want to make sure their GNU/Linux port is perfect.
HAHAHAH!
But I digress. I'm really not looking forward to this game. You can mod me down for my opinion if you want, but it's how I feel. This is the first engine they have done completely on their own. I have little doubt that there will be massive problems that they will blame on either hardware or drivers because that is what Valve does. It doesn't take long to look at the long history of problems with HL that were blamed on drivers or hardware that Valve ended up fixing silently with patches later. They seem to have problems fessing up to issues with their products. Don't get me wrong, I'm STILL completely addicted to counterstrike. But Valve didn't make Counter Strike did they?
I'm not sure what is funnier. I make perhaps 5 posts a week. The fact that you are following me around like an obsessed puppy is damn funny.
Then we have the fact that you are posting as an AC. That's REALLY FUNNY.
Add to that your excellent grammar and grasp of the english language and well, I hope you continue to follow me around and give me and the people that read my crap side splitting laughs.:)
PS: You don't really get bitchslapped by AC's. It's more like you get someone to laugh at for being a coward.
I think you are being dangerously naive. In this economy a real business is going to care enough to look at your expense report and send your job to India eventually. If said business needs 100 machines, 12 cents does not equal 9,500. More importantly, you can't get the 95 dollar price as a business anyway. That's a student price. As a business you would have to pay full cost.
If the user isn't patched, they are screwed because the email will have the permissions necessary to mess up their system. If the user is patched and unclued enough to click on the attachment, it doesn't matter and they are screwed. Hmmmmmmmmm. At what point do people wake up and realize that it's a permissions problem?
Fair enough. From 92-96 I was supporting SunOS for US DoD and pushing BSD on people.:) For the most part I'm a shamless zealot of one thing or another from time to time. In a commercial setting, I do what's best for the customer. I've deployed NT 3.51, 4.0, in the past and Win2k recently in a very small office. I recommended and installed Digital UNIX(before Tru64) at Mindspring before the Earthlink "merger of equals" and I primarily concentrate on setting up sometimes very small and sometimes utterly enormous commercial webhosting solutions with varying degrees of complexity depending on what my clients want and can afford. Lately that has been FreeBSD and Gentoo installed on 1U's or Poweredges. I'd agree that Linux has odds stacked against it in the gaming market now, but I see it making a dent in the desktop market within the next few years and that situation possibly turning around. I can dream. It's complete laziness on my part. I'd rather not have to deal with dual booting or keeping a separate windows box to play games. Good thing I prefer FPS games because you can be in and out in 10-15 minutes with no overwhelming commitment. Plenty of FPS titles for Linux. The NVidia support is as good as the windows support, and the ATI support is most of the way there and improving. With Linux, it's a "something for hard work and reading documents to set your stuff up" culture. There is nothing wrong with a free OS. Too many people are of the opinion that commercial solutions are always better and that is simply not the case. Apache really has no competition. Sendmail does, but it's all other free software. Same deal with bind. I don't think those products are used the most because of a "something for nothing" culture. It's a quality culture. There are plenty of open source alternatives that are simply better in most ways than some alternative you'd have to pay for. Take Linux for example....
As for oracle, I dunno. Larry is getting older and probably won't pull one of his "crazy ivans" again for a good long time if ever again. He appears to be backing a winning horse at the moment and making a killing doing it. I'd call it an infatuation if it wasn't for the fact that they have replaced a majority of their desktops with it and they have signed partnership agreements with RedHat and HP. That and they already have machines running Linux and Oracle9i in place with american air traffic control and quite a few hospitals. US Govt is dog slow to change platforms, and even slower at considering any changes. I'm sure they have some sort of ridiculously long support contract arranged. I have a few friends that are still busy replacing DOS 6.22/novell machines at the pentagon with Win2k.
The Oracle article gives the impression this is something they'll be doing for the long haul. You should check it out (the article). That and Larry gets a sick twisted thrill out of snubbing B.Gates. He has never had an opportunity quite like this one to do exactly that. IBM hasn't either. IBM is out for blood though. I see things becoming very interesting in the next 5 years for Microsoft. In the end, the consumer should win no matter what the outcome.
And save money. Because the total cost of ownership is less for certain applications. Things that make and save money tend to get adopted. Governments are moving too it. People are learning about it. Inroads to the desktop are established. Why are you afraid of Linux? Every day more people "care" about it. You are so biased it's amusing so I'm going to add you to my friends list. Seeing as you are an sql type person I'm sure you know that Oracle is pretty much pushing RedHat + Oracle9i as it's premier solution for small to midsized businesses. Might not be a bad idea to learn it? Check out the big penguin on the cover of the July/August Oracle magazine. Read the incredible articles where Oracle explains how much better it is and how they are switching a large majority of their desktops to it. Do some googling and read about how Ernie Ball has completely adopted it. It's coming whether you like it or not.:)
Actually, NVidia got into a pissing match with Microsoft over how they do shading. Microsoft wanted to force them to give up the technology to be included in DX9 for free if they wanted to play. NVidia bulked and is now paying for it. Despite all this, Doom3 is DX9 and runs 20 percent faster on NVidia cards in it's E3 incarnation. Carmac didn't notice any 66 percent slowdown. Kinda neat huh. Of course, the other side of that coin is that Carmac was flipping PISSED when ATI released that Alpha Doom3 demo as a marketing stunt. He's been shunning them ever since. So ATI responded by immediately showering Valve with attention, and crawling up Microsoft's ass. But you were close. And no, Gabe Newell is no John Carmac. This is the first game/engine they've put out on their own. Their huge seller "half-life" became truly popular because of an after market mod that they didn't even do. The half-life engine was a modified ID engine. Given Valve's willingness to outright lie about issues with their games in the past and blame them on anything but their crappy code, I definitely do not have high hopes for HL2.
You have the old "IBM" camp of keyboard lovers. They like the "clicky" keyboards. I was one of those for a long long time.
You have the "Keytronics" fans. I've also been a big fan of the high end keytronics keyboards. But my tastes have changed.
I feel in love with the Dell Quietkey keyboards a while ago. They don't seem to last very long, but I love how quiet they are and how the keys feel. The bright side is I'm ordering a lot of Dell PowerEdge machines for clients, so I have a ton of surplus black quietkey keyboards. Example
My other favorite keyboard right now is the IBM KB-9910. It has a warrantee for something like 10 million keypresses per key. I know I've had it forever, abuse the hell out of it, and gone through 3 quietkeys on my other machine in the time I've had it. That and it just looks so damn cool. It has better tactile response than the Quietkey, but it's not as quiet. You can probably still find these for around 30-35 bucks. Example
My last favorite keyboard is the only one I'll use in a server room. The BTC 5100c mini in black. These things are awesome. They are built tough, look nice, and feel great. I probably type faster on these than anything else. In fact, I've seriously been considering getting one for my workstation if my 9910 ever dies.
I always get black keyboards because it takes them longer to start looking grungy.
Remember transgaming? Oh, that's right. They are STILL IN BUSINESS. And they sell LINUX GAMES! AMAZING! So it appears that geeks are talking the talk and walking the walk! And by golly, there IS A MARKET FOR LINUX GAMES! Ok, toasted that point. What's left....
Valve simply auctioned off access to their title to the highest bidder. They didn't read anything. If redhat had approached them with a huge bundle of cash, they would have put a friggin' penguin in the game. Valve simply doesn't care about linux, accept to run dedicated servers for their products. Unlike say, ID which does the Linux port for "practice". Carmac's words, not mine. Of course, Valve doesn't have a Carmac. Valve doesn't even have half a Carmac. They have a Gabe Newell and it remains to be seen what that's worth. This is their first graphics engine that is all their own. Valve does not have a stunning track record in regards to releasing rock solid code. They've also been known to outright lie their asses off about problems with their games blaming problems on drivers and hardware in the past only to fix the problems silently later with a patch. It's because of that attitude of theirs that I don't have very high hopes for HL2. Valve has repeatedly whined about graphics cards and drivers since the dawn of time when people get pissed about broken stuff. Where as a professional company doesn't whine and bends over backwards fixing problems instead of pointing fingers.
Damn. Three completely pointless anonymous coward posts for one post that makes you look as stupid as you are. Look, it's not my fault you are some sort of Microsoft apoligist to the point you feel you have to say derogatory things about Linux gamers. There is some grand war going on. This isn't some side you are on. Someday when you are 50 and alone you won't look back on this and laugh because you won't even remember it. That's how insignificant your bias is.
Damn you british girls are touchy. Actually, you can't pirate the Linux version because it requires a valid product code just like the windows version. Once again, I'm impressed with how right you are. And ditch the language nazi thing. It's so british.
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Or, testing it out on family pets for more free games. Don't forget about that.
Good work Nintendo!
Now get to work on FapperBoy and JelloshotBoy.
GROOD!
HERE! HERE!
It's nice to see an unbiased K5er such as yourself chime in to back me up. To H-E double hockeystick with those point and click mazes one has to go through to find things with a "gooweys". It's good that people like you and myself will be around when the outlook virus that ends the world happens so we can help retrain the unclued masses. I will shed a tear that day like the Indian in those old irish spring commercials. But it will be a tear of joy my friend.
Cool. I think. :) I was actually kinda kidding, but maybe I WAS onto something! YAY ME!
So.....
:)
I was wrongight?
hehe?
Oh yeah. I'm sure they both just pulled the date right out of their ass. They made a release date up and were not told one by Valve. What is your point exactly?
Seeing as how Microsoft doesn't seem to be rapidly gaining any ground in the browser wars, or the mid-range server OS wars, or the gaming console wars anymore, it might be good for them to concentrate on an instant messenger war for a little while so they can remember what it was like to win a war.
Amazon HAD it listed at Sept 30th also, but now they have it listed at December First. Who wants to bet cash it isn't ready by Christmas?
Maybe it's because they want to make sure their GNU/Linux port is perfect.
HAHAHAH!
But I digress. I'm really not looking forward to this game. You can mod me down for my opinion if you want, but it's how I feel. This is the first engine they have done completely on their own. I have little doubt that there will be massive problems that they will blame on either hardware or drivers because that is what Valve does. It doesn't take long to look at the long history of problems with HL that were blamed on drivers or hardware that Valve ended up fixing silently with patches later. They seem to have problems fessing up to issues with their products. Don't get me wrong, I'm STILL completely addicted to counterstrike. But Valve didn't make Counter Strike did they?
I think I need somethis it explaineded it more some then. For this to go after an Lindows. Gazorninplat!!!!
A have a girlfriend that loves the cartoonish Mario style games. I couldn't justify a Gamecube before, but I can now. Thanks Nintendo.
Some of the ID guys were on the EnterTheGame IRC server a few weeks ago and confirmed that the music is being produced by Trent Reznor. :)
Actually, ssh -V
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
:)
I'm not sure what is funnier. I make perhaps 5 posts a week. The fact that you are following me around like an obsessed puppy is damn funny.
Then we have the fact that you are posting as an AC. That's REALLY FUNNY.
Add to that your excellent grammar and grasp of the english language and well, I hope you continue to follow me around and give me and the people that read my crap side splitting laughs.
PS: You don't really get bitchslapped by AC's. It's more like you get someone to laugh at for being a coward.
I think you are being dangerously naive. In this economy a real business is going to care enough to look at your expense report and send your job to India eventually. If said business needs 100 machines, 12 cents does not equal 9,500. More importantly, you can't get the 95 dollar price as a business anyway. That's a student price. As a business you would have to pay full cost.
If the user isn't patched, they are screwed because the email will have the permissions necessary to mess up their system. If the user is patched and unclued enough to click on the attachment, it doesn't matter and they are screwed. Hmmmmmmmmm. At what point do people wake up and realize that it's a permissions problem?
Ok, you get geek points.
:) For the most part I'm a shamless zealot of one thing or another from time to time. In a commercial setting, I do what's best for the customer. I've deployed NT 3.51, 4.0, in the past and Win2k recently in a very small office. I recommended and installed Digital UNIX(before Tru64) at Mindspring before the Earthlink "merger of equals" and I primarily concentrate on setting up sometimes very small and sometimes utterly enormous commercial webhosting solutions with varying degrees of complexity depending on what my clients want and can afford. Lately that has been FreeBSD and Gentoo installed on 1U's or Poweredges. I'd agree that Linux has odds stacked against it in the gaming market now, but I see it making a dent in the desktop market within the next few years and that situation possibly turning around. I can dream. It's complete laziness on my part. I'd rather not have to deal with dual booting or keeping a separate windows box to play games. Good thing I prefer FPS games because you can be in and out in 10-15 minutes with no overwhelming commitment. Plenty of FPS titles for Linux. The NVidia support is as good as the windows support, and the ATI support is most of the way there and improving. With Linux, it's a "something for hard work and reading documents to set your stuff up" culture. There is nothing wrong with a free OS. Too many people are of the opinion that commercial solutions are always better and that is simply not the case. Apache really has no competition. Sendmail does, but it's all other free software. Same deal with bind. I don't think those products are used the most because of a "something for nothing" culture. It's a quality culture. There are plenty of open source alternatives that are simply better in most ways than some alternative you'd have to pay for. Take Linux for example....
Fair enough. From 92-96 I was supporting SunOS for US DoD and pushing BSD on people.
As for oracle, I dunno. Larry is getting older and probably won't pull one of his "crazy ivans" again for a good long time if ever again. He appears to be backing a winning horse at the moment and making a killing doing it. I'd call it an infatuation if it wasn't for the fact that they have replaced a majority of their desktops with it and they have signed partnership agreements with RedHat and HP. That and they already have machines running Linux and Oracle9i in place with american air traffic control and quite a few hospitals. US Govt is dog slow to change platforms, and even slower at considering any changes. I'm sure they have some sort of ridiculously long support contract arranged. I have a few friends that are still busy replacing DOS 6.22/novell machines at the pentagon with Win2k.
The Oracle article gives the impression this is something they'll be doing for the long haul. You should check it out (the article). That and Larry gets a sick twisted thrill out of snubbing B.Gates. He has never had an opportunity quite like this one to do exactly that. IBM hasn't either. IBM is out for blood though. I see things becoming very interesting in the next 5 years for Microsoft. In the end, the consumer should win no matter what the outcome.
And save money. Because the total cost of ownership is less for certain applications. Things that make and save money tend to get adopted. Governments are moving too it. People are learning about it. Inroads to the desktop are established. Why are you afraid of Linux? Every day more people "care" about it. You are so biased it's amusing so I'm going to add you to my friends list. Seeing as you are an sql type person I'm sure you know that Oracle is pretty much pushing RedHat + Oracle9i as it's premier solution for small to midsized businesses. Might not be a bad idea to learn it? Check out the big penguin on the cover of the July/August Oracle magazine. Read the incredible articles where Oracle explains how much better it is and how they are switching a large majority of their desktops to it. Do some googling and read about how Ernie Ball has completely adopted it. It's coming whether you like it or not. :)
Lets just hope microsoft doesn't break their own patch like they did last time.
Actually, NVidia got into a pissing match with Microsoft over how they do shading. Microsoft wanted to force them to give up the technology to be included in DX9 for free if they wanted to play. NVidia bulked and is now paying for it. Despite all this, Doom3 is DX9 and runs 20 percent faster on NVidia cards in it's E3 incarnation. Carmac didn't notice any 66 percent slowdown. Kinda neat huh. Of course, the other side of that coin is that Carmac was flipping PISSED when ATI released that Alpha Doom3 demo as a marketing stunt. He's been shunning them ever since. So ATI responded by immediately showering Valve with attention, and crawling up Microsoft's ass. But you were close. And no, Gabe Newell is no John Carmac. This is the first game/engine they've put out on their own. Their huge seller "half-life" became truly popular because of an after market mod that they didn't even do. The half-life engine was a modified ID engine. Given Valve's willingness to outright lie about issues with their games in the past and blame them on anything but their crappy code, I definitely do not have high hopes for HL2.
You have the old "IBM" camp of keyboard lovers. They like the "clicky" keyboards. I was one of those for a long long time.
You have the "Keytronics" fans. I've also been a big fan of the high end keytronics keyboards. But my tastes have changed.
I feel in love with the Dell Quietkey keyboards a while ago. They don't seem to last very long, but I love how quiet they are and how the keys feel. The bright side is I'm ordering a lot of Dell PowerEdge machines for clients, so I have a ton of surplus black quietkey keyboards.
Example
My other favorite keyboard right now is the IBM KB-9910. It has a warrantee for something like 10 million keypresses per key. I know I've had it forever, abuse the hell out of it, and gone through 3 quietkeys on my other machine in the time I've had it. That and it just looks so damn cool. It has better tactile response than the Quietkey, but it's not as quiet. You can probably still find these for around 30-35 bucks.
Example
My last favorite keyboard is the only one I'll use in a server room. The BTC 5100c mini in black. These things are awesome. They are built tough, look nice, and feel great. I probably type faster on these than anything else. In fact, I've seriously been considering getting one for my workstation if my 9910 ever dies.
I always get black keyboards because it takes them longer to start looking grungy.
Hope this help!
Remember transgaming? Oh, that's right. They are STILL IN BUSINESS. And they sell LINUX GAMES! AMAZING! So it appears that geeks are talking the talk and walking the walk! And by golly, there IS A MARKET FOR LINUX GAMES! Ok, toasted that point. What's left....
Valve simply auctioned off access to their title to the highest bidder. They didn't read anything. If redhat had approached them with a huge bundle of cash, they would have put a friggin' penguin in the game. Valve simply doesn't care about linux, accept to run dedicated servers for their products. Unlike say, ID which does the Linux port for "practice". Carmac's words, not mine. Of course, Valve doesn't have a Carmac. Valve doesn't even have half a Carmac. They have a Gabe Newell and it remains to be seen what that's worth. This is their first graphics engine that is all their own. Valve does not have a stunning track record in regards to releasing rock solid code. They've also been known to outright lie their asses off about problems with their games blaming problems on drivers and hardware in the past only to fix the problems silently later with a patch. It's because of that attitude of theirs that I don't have very high hopes for HL2. Valve has repeatedly whined about graphics cards and drivers since the dawn of time when people get pissed about broken stuff. Where as a professional company doesn't whine and bends over backwards fixing problems instead of pointing fingers.
Damn. Three completely pointless anonymous coward posts for one post that makes you look as stupid as you are. Look, it's not my fault you are some sort of Microsoft apoligist to the point you feel you have to say derogatory things about Linux gamers. There is some grand war going on. This isn't some side you are on. Someday when you are 50 and alone you won't look back on this and laugh because you won't even remember it. That's how insignificant your bias is.
Damn you british girls are touchy. Actually, you can't pirate the Linux version because it requires a valid product code just like the windows version. Once again, I'm impressed with how right you are. And ditch the language nazi thing. It's so british.