Also missing that until the ipad, I'm not aware of anyone making a tablet UI that was significantly different from their desktop one. I have an old Fujitsu tablet running win-2000 that would be completely useless if I didn't also have the wireless keyboard. It had its uses, but Windows was the wrong interface for it. IOS, and Android are built around the touch screen, Win-8 looks to be an attempt to marry the 2 UIs (possibly to the detriment of both) While tablets have been tried before, they were alway better used like laptops than tablets. Now, they are optimized for the form factor. Microsoft may have the right idea with Win 8, one OS and 2 UIs, with docking capabilities, may help to create a device that can act as a tablet, and a family PC (sorry kids, I took the PC to work with me)
There are already laptop docks for smart phones, why not laptop and desktop docks for tablets, when combined with an OS that can utilize both form factors?
I'm also trying to imagine an open office or even a cubical farm where everyone is trying to talk to a tablet or computer. Could get pretty loud as people increase volume to overcome the background noise
For the vast majority of people, as far as I can tell, PCs are used as toys. Gaming has always been a major driver in the market. Outside of the IT sector, I don't know anyone that does anything on a home computer that can't be done on a tablet. Work computers are a different story, but to dismiss the tablet as a toy is the same mindset that missed the boat on personal computers and the internet
I'm using a samsung galaxy, the 7.5" one, for business. With the RDP and VNC apps, I can do everything remotely that I used to carry a laptop for. Note that I did not say a tablet can replace a laptop for everyone, but in my case it can. We are also testing them, in conjunction with a blue tooth bar code scanner, for inventory control in the plant areas.
Um no I don't
Nor a bible or koran. I would also point out that all of those books hold other values to the reader. Your argument is far from analogous.
It is not illegal to read a news account, or work of fiction, about child porn. It is illegal to own it. This is a truly murky area here, but let me pose a question: Has the availability of regular porn (not child porn) slowed down the rate of unwanted pregnancies or or transmission of sexual disease in the world? I hate to sound like I advocate the idea of thought crime, but ownership of child porn shows an interest in sex with children. I don't for a minute believe that that picture is going to stop a child rapist from going out and raping a child, nor do I believe that viewing it will turn you into a child raping mega monster. I do see intentionally owning and viewing such items as a large step beyond mere fantasy, and while I don't think it is on par with actually raping a child, I think that collectors of child porn need to intercepted, and if not jailed perhaps treated.
Also, owning an item that was illegal to produce in the first place does need to be illegal. At the very least you have willingly participated in the distribution of an illegal product, which carries certain responsibilities at any rate. Bottom line here is that regardless of whether you think ownership should be illegal or not, it is. Owners of child porn have already, by owning it in a society that punishes ownership so harshly, shown a lack of self control on the subject of child sex, and feel that it is worth the risk of literally life destroying consequences just to own it. Do you have children? Do you really want these people in society with your children?
Porn viewers tend to get bored with the same porn over and over again. This is why there is more than one porn video in the entire world, and why there is an industry. If your sexual makeup requires that you view the abuse of children, the same image/video will not hold you for your entire life, any more than a normal, healthy adult will be happy with the same porn film for their entire life. purchasing that one tape just showed whoever made it that there is a potential for more sales, because that tape will not forever hold its appeal. It encourages the creation of more.
I am sorry that you have more sympathy for the adult who knew the risks of said collection and lacked the self control to avoid it (regardless of how you feel about the law, it is a law and it is enforced) than you do for the child who was abused so that adult could get off.
I'm equally impressed with people's general inability to grasp that we are all individuals, with our own likes, dislikes, and priorities. What is a waste of money to you is a good choice for someone else. There is nothing negative about that, it means priorities differ. I won't be buying an ipad because the other priorities in my life far outweigh it, but I don't feel that people who make owning one a priority have some sort of problem.
One man's junk is another man's treasure.
Losing my mod points here, but we need some honesty. Apple is not locking me into the iPhone more than any other vendor. The music is open, and does not lock me in. I was not able to simply move my bberry apps over to iPhone, any more than vice versa. same goes for Android and Win Mobile. move platform, lose apps. The media in there, not lost. The apps however, stay with the platform. Any platform, weather Apple or someone else. I also can't buy Photoshop for Mac or Windows and use the same copy on both. It doesn't work that way.
According to the business rep at my local apple store, the 3Gs does have hardware based ecryption, but it will not actually be implemented until OS 4.0 comes out. This is why we are holding only a very limited trial with iphones at work, until I can test one with functional security.
Thanks for informing us that CPU and graphics are all that go into a computer. I always thought there was more.
Do only idiots buy Dell Precisions? Those are also Intel/Nvidia chips, but cost more than there similarly speced Dell Insperon and Dimension lines. Could it be that other people value things you don't? Are you really so arrogant that you think only morons can have a different opinions or values? What a sad, narrow little world you must live in.
Remember when the PS3 came out, people were lining up to buy 5 and 6 at a time and selling them on ebay. Sony took all the heat, PR wise, for that, and now when Apple tries to avoid that heat, we spin that as negative too. Can you say "no win"?
In 10 years the company I work for, and millions of others like us, will still be using shit in-house developed vb and.net apps that require some version of Windows to run. We will all still be locked into Windows desktop systems (many of us using ancient, unsupported versions of 2000 and XP still).
We just last year got rid of the last Win 98 desktops. The iPhone will not displace Windows based desktop PCs and Laptops, because too much of the world could not possibly afford the up front cost of porting our entire erp solution over. Your tinfoil hat seems to be affecting your thinking ability, you might need to invest in a larger one.
2 things, it seems the loudest folks on Slashdot ARE screaming about it. I'm also not sure that if MS did this with Windows mobile anyone would care, as long as they left Windows alone.
I think AC's point was that your posting in it shows your reading it, and with all the attention this gets from both fanbois and haters (lets be honest, no one anywhere seems to fall in the middle) a news outlet would be truly insane not to pick this up.
Yes, but he rang up Apples first tier CS, not people who would have been in the loop of the missing iPhone. If I found a wallet with your ID in it, and asked a coworker of yours "did Geekoid say he had lost his wallet?" would you consider that to be enough? The iPhone should have gone to either the barkeep or the police. Any amount of common sense tells you that any of the published numbers for Apple will not get the phone returned. The only possible reason to call those numbers for this is so that you can later say "well, I tried to call Apple...."
Is prosecution a good choice? probably overboard, but in taking the phone from the bar, he took on a responsibility to find its owner, not make a half assed attempt that was doomed to failure from the beginning. I would say he should give back the $5000 and call it even, as I don't think that this should entail jail time for him, nut he certainly should not profit from it.
Chen, on the other hand, really should have known better, and I have very little sympathy for whatever happens to him.
The problem, Alphathon, is who decides legitimate use? I cary a leatherman tool virtually everywhere I go, as a PC tech I would be lost without it. I use it constantly, and I am also an avid DIY type. I also regularly carry a small flashlight. Carrying a device that could be used as a weapon should not be illegal. One that has no other use than a weapon, different story, and an argument I will not get into. But carrying a screwdriver, or any other tool, should not be illegal. People who intend to do damage are going to find a way to harm you. Keeping screwdrivers away from them will only give the illusion of protection. A rock found on the side of the road is equally deadly. To suggest that my pocket knife not be carried in public is useless, and only serves to limit my freedoms, while offering no real protection to anyone else.
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Also missing that until the ipad, I'm not aware of anyone making a tablet UI that was significantly different from their desktop one. I have an old Fujitsu tablet running win-2000 that would be completely useless if I didn't also have the wireless keyboard. It had its uses, but Windows was the wrong interface for it. IOS, and Android are built around the touch screen, Win-8 looks to be an attempt to marry the 2 UIs (possibly to the detriment of both) While tablets have been tried before, they were alway better used like laptops than tablets. Now, they are optimized for the form factor. Microsoft may have the right idea with Win 8, one OS and 2 UIs, with docking capabilities, may help to create a device that can act as a tablet, and a family PC (sorry kids, I took the PC to work with me) There are already laptop docks for smart phones, why not laptop and desktop docks for tablets, when combined with an OS that can utilize both form factors?
I'm also trying to imagine an open office or even a cubical farm where everyone is trying to talk to a tablet or computer. Could get pretty loud as people increase volume to overcome the background noise
For the vast majority of people, as far as I can tell, PCs are used as toys. Gaming has always been a major driver in the market. Outside of the IT sector, I don't know anyone that does anything on a home computer that can't be done on a tablet. Work computers are a different story, but to dismiss the tablet as a toy is the same mindset that missed the boat on personal computers and the internet
I'm using a samsung galaxy, the 7.5" one, for business. With the RDP and VNC apps, I can do everything remotely that I used to carry a laptop for. Note that I did not say a tablet can replace a laptop for everyone, but in my case it can. We are also testing them, in conjunction with a blue tooth bar code scanner, for inventory control in the plant areas.
Um no I don't Nor a bible or koran. I would also point out that all of those books hold other values to the reader. Your argument is far from analogous.
It is not illegal to read a news account, or work of fiction, about child porn. It is illegal to own it. This is a truly murky area here, but let me pose a question: Has the availability of regular porn (not child porn) slowed down the rate of unwanted pregnancies or or transmission of sexual disease in the world? I hate to sound like I advocate the idea of thought crime, but ownership of child porn shows an interest in sex with children. I don't for a minute believe that that picture is going to stop a child rapist from going out and raping a child, nor do I believe that viewing it will turn you into a child raping mega monster. I do see intentionally owning and viewing such items as a large step beyond mere fantasy, and while I don't think it is on par with actually raping a child, I think that collectors of child porn need to intercepted, and if not jailed perhaps treated. Also, owning an item that was illegal to produce in the first place does need to be illegal. At the very least you have willingly participated in the distribution of an illegal product, which carries certain responsibilities at any rate. Bottom line here is that regardless of whether you think ownership should be illegal or not, it is. Owners of child porn have already, by owning it in a society that punishes ownership so harshly, shown a lack of self control on the subject of child sex, and feel that it is worth the risk of literally life destroying consequences just to own it. Do you have children? Do you really want these people in society with your children?
Porn viewers tend to get bored with the same porn over and over again. This is why there is more than one porn video in the entire world, and why there is an industry. If your sexual makeup requires that you view the abuse of children, the same image/video will not hold you for your entire life, any more than a normal, healthy adult will be happy with the same porn film for their entire life. purchasing that one tape just showed whoever made it that there is a potential for more sales, because that tape will not forever hold its appeal. It encourages the creation of more. I am sorry that you have more sympathy for the adult who knew the risks of said collection and lacked the self control to avoid it (regardless of how you feel about the law, it is a law and it is enforced) than you do for the child who was abused so that adult could get off.
No, there are rules about what you can do on the public highways.
And remind me, whose airways was Steve planning on running his private plane through?
Just out of curiosity, do you think he can take down another plane with his throwing star?
Wait, what's wrong with pets in the microwave? Will it hurt the oven?
I'm equally impressed with people's general inability to grasp that we are all individuals, with our own likes, dislikes, and priorities. What is a waste of money to you is a good choice for someone else. There is nothing negative about that, it means priorities differ. I won't be buying an ipad because the other priorities in my life far outweigh it, but I don't feel that people who make owning one a priority have some sort of problem. One man's junk is another man's treasure.
Losing my mod points here, but we need some honesty. Apple is not locking me into the iPhone more than any other vendor. The music is open, and does not lock me in. I was not able to simply move my bberry apps over to iPhone, any more than vice versa. same goes for Android and Win Mobile. move platform, lose apps. The media in there, not lost. The apps however, stay with the platform. Any platform, weather Apple or someone else. I also can't buy Photoshop for Mac or Windows and use the same copy on both. It doesn't work that way.
According to the business rep at my local apple store, the 3Gs does have hardware based ecryption, but it will not actually be implemented until OS 4.0 comes out. This is why we are holding only a very limited trial with iphones at work, until I can test one with functional security.
Thanks for informing us that CPU and graphics are all that go into a computer. I always thought there was more. Do only idiots buy Dell Precisions? Those are also Intel/Nvidia chips, but cost more than there similarly speced Dell Insperon and Dimension lines. Could it be that other people value things you don't? Are you really so arrogant that you think only morons can have a different opinions or values? What a sad, narrow little world you must live in.
Remember when the PS3 came out, people were lining up to buy 5 and 6 at a time and selling them on ebay. Sony took all the heat, PR wise, for that, and now when Apple tries to avoid that heat, we spin that as negative too. Can you say "no win"?
New iPhone add: Secret service got your phone? They can't remove the battery either!!!!!!!!!
In 10 years the company I work for, and millions of others like us, will still be using shit in-house developed vb and .net apps that require some version of Windows to run. We will all still be locked into Windows desktop systems (many of us using ancient, unsupported versions of 2000 and XP still).
We just last year got rid of the last Win 98 desktops. The iPhone will not displace Windows based desktop PCs and Laptops, because too much of the world could not possibly afford the up front cost of porting our entire erp solution over. Your tinfoil hat seems to be affecting your thinking ability, you might need to invest in a larger one.
2 things, it seems the loudest folks on Slashdot ARE screaming about it. I'm also not sure that if MS did this with Windows mobile anyone would care, as long as they left Windows alone.
I think AC's point was that your posting in it shows your reading it, and with all the attention this gets from both fanbois and haters (lets be honest, no one anywhere seems to fall in the middle) a news outlet would be truly insane not to pick this up.
Yes, but he rang up Apples first tier CS, not people who would have been in the loop of the missing iPhone. If I found a wallet with your ID in it, and asked a coworker of yours "did Geekoid say he had lost his wallet?" would you consider that to be enough? The iPhone should have gone to either the barkeep or the police. Any amount of common sense tells you that any of the published numbers for Apple will not get the phone returned. The only possible reason to call those numbers for this is so that you can later say "well, I tried to call Apple...." Is prosecution a good choice? probably overboard, but in taking the phone from the bar, he took on a responsibility to find its owner, not make a half assed attempt that was doomed to failure from the beginning. I would say he should give back the $5000 and call it even, as I don't think that this should entail jail time for him, nut he certainly should not profit from it. Chen, on the other hand, really should have known better, and I have very little sympathy for whatever happens to him.
Hold out hope. Some of us appreciate and cherish rational discussion.
stop getting so angry about everything and just be reasonable :).
You must be new here :)
The problem, Alphathon, is who decides legitimate use? I cary a leatherman tool virtually everywhere I go, as a PC tech I would be lost without it. I use it constantly, and I am also an avid DIY type. I also regularly carry a small flashlight. Carrying a device that could be used as a weapon should not be illegal. One that has no other use than a weapon, different story, and an argument I will not get into. But carrying a screwdriver, or any other tool, should not be illegal. People who intend to do damage are going to find a way to harm you. Keeping screwdrivers away from them will only give the illusion of protection. A rock found on the side of the road is equally deadly. To suggest that my pocket knife not be carried in public is useless, and only serves to limit my freedoms, while offering no real protection to anyone else.
But I only eat pork that was cooked while still alive!!! If you set it so it can only cut dead meet, I'll have to eat DEAD PIG!!!!!!!!
myth....
by posting anonymously?