Oh and you and the occupy movement shouldn't bother asking the government to give you my money once my career takes off
Excuse me, did I say anything about being part of the occupy movement or expecting the government to give me money? If you actually read my post for a minute, you might see that I took a loan and paid it back. I made every payment on time, thank you.
In fact, I'm with you on getting rid of welfare programs. I'm frankly sick and tired of my tax money going to people who frankly don't deserve it.
Perhaps if your parents weren't hopped up on pain killers and alcohol around the time of your conception you'd be able to comprehend that
Oh my! Me, not living within my means?! I said that I owned a home without having a degree. Do you know what that means? I sure as hell do live within my means to make that possible. Boo hoo about your housing market falling apart, and boo hoo that I was able to profit from it. There is no way in hell I'm going to throw my money away on rent if I don't have to.
Again, you come off as a spoiled jackass with an entitlement complex. You just go on thinking that there's some big government conspiracy that's enabling me to own a house. I still want to know where I sign up for these handouts I'm supposed to have. Maybe I'd at least get my damned money I earned myself back from the government that way.
My mom owns the house, but I pay for the utilities.
Ah, I'm glad you at least managed to answer my question. Wish I had that deal, but nobody said life had to be fair.
You, on the other hand, need to count your blessing once and a while.
So, do pray tell, how much did you pay for rent, electricity, and heat while doing that?
Or, don't tell me, you're yet another one of those special little snowflakes who can just stay at mommy and daddy's place until everything is perfect.
Get off your high horse you idiot.
On the other hand, I own a home and I've never had a degree. I even had loans to pay off after my ex-parents decided I was actually a demon who had killed their son and taken his form. Pain killers and prednisone and alcohol: it's bad for ya. But who gives a shit about those drug addicts. They could have at least come up with something better than a B movie plot.
Currently, getting a degree looks a bit like a scam, unless, of course, I had somewhere I could stay for free, which is apparently the deal you had.
You aren't nearly as hot shit as you think you are.
Been there, done that. It's not worth it.
Men like you just need to stop making excuses for females. Maybe you should go get laid. You can come back when both your heart and your bank account are broken.
It's more likely that Lovelace was simply paraphrasing things Babbage had discussed with her. In the real world, females view mathematics as rape and don't understand why there's a computer on their desk. I've yet to meet a female who can even comprehend the basic features of a word processor such as tabstops or using 1st and 2nd level headings to organize the typo-ridden, disjointed, grammar catastrophe their vaginas vomit up on to a page.
Women don't/want/ to be equal. What they want is to be able to have a baby whenever they choose, and it doesn't matter what guy donates the genetic material necessary, just so long as they can make him look like a creep and a rapist so the child support checks will just flow in. Then they call this "good, christian family values."
Women know they can get most guys to just cave in to their every whim, and that's all that happened between Lovelace and Babbage. She probably gave him a good load of bullshit, just enough to trick him into thinking that she actually understood anything she was taking about. Of course, it was probably to Babbage's advantage anyway to make it look like a female could understand anything not related to motherhood.
Females can get equal pay when they're able to perform equal work. This myth about the first programmer being a woman is just yet another cudgel that females use to try to guilt trip men into giving them more and more handouts.
Well, ladies, you can bitch about it all you want, but they pay me because I make computers do things. You females, apparently, cannot, and that's why you don't get the job. You can call sexism and other hysterics all you want, but at the end of the day, the computer either goes or it doesn't, and you can either go through hundreds of items by hand to create the report the client wants or you can realize that a computer can do it in a matter of seconds. Even if you can't comprehend how the computer produces the answer for me and not for you, you females have to admit that at the end of the day, an employer would rather pay me 133% of your wages because you're only 75% as productive as me.
More men are starting to realize that, and we're getting tired of listening to your bullshit. The computer doesn't care what body parts its operator has no matter how loudly you want to bitch and moan that the gender of the person sitting in front of the computer is what's making it either work or not.
I've _personally_ seen amazing things that scientific research has made possible.
I've also _personally_ seen how religion can destroy families by privileging a 3,000 year old text over reality.
I hear this standpoint all the time, that subjective truth is just as valid as objective truth. It's rubbish.
Subjective truth predicts nothing. What does assuming your sky wizard exists or not enable me to do? Absolutely nothing except hate myself because god hates fags like me.
What does assuming dark matter exists enable me to do? Nothing except provide a possible explanation for why there's gravitational lensing in a picture of distant stars where there really shouldn't be.
What does assuming that different materials have different properties and assuming that mathematics is sound enable me to do? Build bridges, skyscrapers, better farming tools, more fuel-efficient cars, better looking video games, etc.
Well, I suppose, unless you believe that suspension bridges are something that your sky wizard just shits out on occasion. If you do, that's your choice. However, I sure as hell wouldn't hire you to design a new suspension bridge.
How the hell is this crap modded up? It doesn't just seem paranoid, it is paranoid.
You need to get some help, dude. It's called germophobia. Do you seriously avoid going out to eat because you're that afraid of germs? Hepatitis C?! I'll bet you've got quite the social life!
I'm not saying it doesn't happen and I have absolutely no numbers to back this up, but I have a feeling you're much more likely to get in a serious car accident on the way to the restaurant than you are to get hepatitis C!
I stopped using antibiotic soaps. I avoid them. I always check to make sure that triclosan isn't in any hand soaps I buy. I find these "hand sanitizers" popping up and the people who use them obsessively yet still seem to get sick for months on end every winter just completely absurd.
My body is covered by billions of microbes right now, and there are probably trillions all in all swimming around inside me. I've never felt better and my complexion has never been better.
Your immune system needs to be exposed to germs. Then the next time everyone else is rushing to Walgreens in some OMG BIRD MAN BEAR PIG FLU hysteria for their good little citizen vaccine and still getting sick anyway and being miserable for weeks, then you'll be the one who for some reason only gets sick once a blue moon and maybe for 2 days tops!
Good grief. Undoing a mod to reply because your post is just sheer paranoid lunacy, and I am absolutely sick of seeing paranoid lunacy being passed off as reasonable. It's called diminishing returns and sometimes simply just not knowing why things work and turning to superstition and self-fulfilling prophecies.
I'd agree about hospitals, though, just because of the massive derp of all the hypochondriacs who run to the ER every time they've got the sniffles.
The problem is that this requires the average employee to be functionally literate.
Good luck with that. The older I get the more astounded I am at how far some people get in life who are completely unable to express or understand anything but the simplest ideas in writing.
Exactly. I assume the nominal fee covers the cost involved in filing the paperwork.
You also know damned well you're making an absurd argument. Next you might as well argue that a woman shouldn't be allowed to marry a man with a small penis like you because that's dangerously close to marrying a woman with an enlarged clitoris.
I blame the obsession with trucks that have jacked-up suspensions and supersized SUVs. The last highway trip I measured in my 2011 Fiesta I got nearly 39 MPG (38.7 iirc). I can get between 32 and 34 in the city depending on how aggressive I am.
I tell these numbers to my SUV-driving cow-orkers, and I get nothing short of slack-jawed disbelief for a second that I get anything over 20 MPG, then my 39 MPG is usually dismissed out of hand because my car is small and not something a "real man" whatever that is would drive.
Well, toy or not, I like being able to go across the state and back on $30 instead of $130. Point being I suppose that my car has air conditioning that works wonderfully. I was too cheap to get the power windows, but I highly doubt that power windows are going to make any kind of dent in MPG.
I pretty much came to the same conclusion after reading a variety of primary documents. It turned out that the kind of freedom they desired was the freedom to curtail others' freedoms at religious whim.
Scientist: Hmm, that's interesting. My measurements of global temperature have been trending upwards by X. It seems that the atmosphere works like a greenhouse and keeps the surface temperature higher than it would otherwise be. Compare Mars, Venus, and Mercury. It seems we've been releasing a lot of CO2, and my other study here shows that CO2 can increase the greenhouse effect by Y.
Warmist: The sky is falling! We're raping the planet! See! We should all be subsistence farmers living in communes! Technology will kill us all!
Denier: Bah, all those measurements are crap. No warming is happening. They placed the thermometers places that magically increase in temperature independent of the rest of the world each year.
Scientist: Hmm, that's interesting. Methane can also increase the greenhouse effect by Z.
Denier: See! He's contradicting himself! He's full of crap!
Warmist: No, it's the cows! We're raping the planet and killing cows and we should only eat vegetables and live in communes! Cows wouldn't fart if only we didn't have lightbulbs!
Scientist: Oops, it looks like my numbers were a bit off there. These new data show the global temperature is actually rising by P and carbon accounts for Q% of that. If this continues we could be in a bit of trouble.
Denier: See! You can't trust science! Scientists all want us to live in caves!
Scientist: That's not true. Perhaps we should build more nuclear reactors. I've found a good way to use thorium as a fuel to avoid the problems that some of the older, uranium-based reactors showed.
Everyone else: NUKE-U-LER! OH NOES! ATOM BOMBS! MELTDOWNS! OH NOES! FUKUSHIMA! CHERNOBYL! NOTHING GROWS IN 100 MILLION MILES OF CHERNOBYL! WE'LL ALL DIE!
Scientist: But even if we're not responsible as a species for the warming trend I observed, we'll still be in trouble if we don't do anything. Additionally, oil-based energy costs lives and presents a health risk that these numbers here show to be worse than all nuclear incidents combined. I also have a neat idea to focus solar energy on a central tower to efficiently use that as a power source. I think if we all sit down and calmly consider things we should find a way to establish long-term sustainability.
Denier: You communist! Solar is a dead end! How will I drive my SUV at night?! See? You said the warming might be natural! That means we actually don't need to do anything at all!
Warmist: No! There's no way to be sustainable! We all need to stop using all energy right now! Energy use is raping the planet!
And every now and then when I'm underwater I let go of things I'm used to dropping, and they go up.
I know, stupid details. Faggots like me should just shut up while the rest of you take the world to hell in a handbasket because you can't handle that the real world is complicated.
Re: your sig. All the scholarships and opportunities I didn't qualify for because of my genitals, and all of the women I watched failed to take advantage of them lol at it.
My parents threw me out. They would not have if I had been female. My worked my ass off in a job I hate. Maybe I could have just gotten married to a guy who was rich if I'd been female. Now I own property. Yes, a homosexual, transsexual, fucking worthless faggot, and I own property because I have no other option for my own survival.
Perhaps you haven't considered that females just have it so much fucking easier, and that's why they're not forced into a corner of working a job they hate because they need the money. One of my co-workers is quitting her job because she found a guy who was willing to bankroll her so that she can be a stay at home mom. THAT'S HER FUCKING CHOICE AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DISCRIMINATION YOU FUCKING SHIT. PEOPLE JUST GIVE MONEY TO PEOPLE WITH CUNTS FOR NO OTHER REASON AND THAT'S HOW LIFE IS YOU FUCKING SHIT.
Just thought you should know. Thanks.
I'm going to get modded to hell, and I should be because this is offtopic, but I don't fucking care.
Don't you think females choose these things because they can? Because they live in a world where they have personal value for no more damned reason than they bleed once per month? And you feel sorry for them?
I'd like to reply to both you and some of the people who've replied to you who have been modded up instead of modding this whole thread down.
I'm homosexual, you insensitive clod.
There was an openly gay guy at my high school. He was surrounded by girls. Does that make him more of a man than you?
By your logic, it must.
It took me a long time to realize I was homosexual. All through high school and for quite a few years after that I would get pissed and irritated and tell everyone, "I'm not gay!" Then I couldn't figure out why nobody wanted to be around me. Come to find out, women are people, not sexual objects or prizes to be won.
I've found that if you like women, you tend to sleep with them. If you like men, you tend to sleep with them. My roommate, also a geek, tends to have sex on the first or second date, often with women a decade younger than he is.
Did you know there are women who absolutely hate men? That there are women who do refuse to associate with someone who's a programmer simply on those grounds? There are women who like to sleep with thugs? That "social skills" are not good enough to get in bed with any woman out there?
You can't impress a girl or say some magic words and snap your fingers and get in bed with her.
So, you sleep with a lot of women? How should I take that? Does that mean you're incapable of forming meaningful, long-term relationships? Does that mean you cheat a lot? What does that mean, exactly?
Just don't let anyone know your sexual preferences.
So what you're saying is that the guy who goes on and on about his wife and kids is ok, but the guy who lets something slip about his husband and kids...
Oh, nevermind. There's no talking sense into you people. "Family values" is a sham, and it makes me sick. Real family values might mean including your child who turns out to be homosexual or transgendered in your family instead of throwing him out with your trash.
Not like I care. Turns out I didn't need my family after all, just a shame they missed out on their child buying his/her first new car and buying a home because "family values" says that someone who isn't cisgendered and heterosexual can't be part of a family. It's also why when I want canned soup or chili, I buy Campbell's exclusively, even when something else is on sale. At least Campbell's soup thinks I deserve to have a family despite being LGBTQOMGWTFBBQ and has the balls to advertise to people who aren't heterosexual and to go tell "family values" to screw off.
As someone who was born with a gender problem, I hope the DSM loses all credibility when the next edition comes out. Sorry for the rant, but you've made a very good point I'd like to expand upon and get a few things out of my system.
Basically, from what I understand, they're seriously considering listing "electroshock" as a treatment for the gender problem I have. I've looked into electroshock, and it's an interesting approach, kind of like using a stick of dynamite to remove a housefly. Apparently it can be therapeutic for certain kinds of depression, and it can also cause amnesia. Sometimes I think having amnesia would be nice. I'd wake up thinking I'm a normal woman and forget about the time I was forced by people who knew what was best for me to parade myself around as a guy.
One thing it does not do, however, is change the brain's sex from female to male or whatever they think it accomplishes in the treatment of a gender mismatch between brain and genitals. If they ever do figure out a way to do that, maybe I'll consider becoming a man, but electroshock does not do that, no matter what kind of wishful thinking and cargo cult science they employ. Being a man has some advantages, but it's simply not what I am, and wishful thinking or sky wizards or whatever else simply aren't going to change that.
Basically, the DSM V is going to be a joke. I hope it'll be a ha-ha joke. I'm afraid it might be a cruel joke.
At any rate, what can I do about it? I'm already diagnosable with a mental illness according to the DSM IV. Apparently, having a female brain is a kind of mental illness. Being attracted to men is a mental illness. Why not just lock up anyone with a vagina, since most of them are attracted to men, have breasts (and I hear some of them even enjoy being fondled), masturbate while wearing panties, and dress up in women's clothes? A shocking revelation, I'm sure.
For that matter, what can you do about it? I think that's your core point, and something I wish more people would understand. You'll be diagnosed under the DSM V. Once you've become "mentally ill" anything you self-report goes out the window, because you need "help." Any disagreements, objections, or concerns you might have about your treatment are signs of a lack of progress. Because they know what's best for you. All you need to do is obediently submit to their every command.
Well, maybe the BDSM reference is a bit over the top, but from my perspective, being forced to have testosterone in my body and being forced to have a body with male body parts while dressing up in clothes that no real woman ever wears just for the hope that I might get meds that I need is pretty close to BDSM. And I don't like BDSM. Yeah, maybe my body produces testosterone without medical intervention, but other people's bodies also do things that aren't optimal without medical intervention. I'm not hearing any suggestions that insulin should be withheld from someone with type 2 diabetes unless they jump through hoops and barrels and commit to losing weight. Some people can control their diabetes without medication, just like some people can appear to be attractive members of the "opposite" sex without medication. That doesn't mean it's the best way or the right way for everyone.
Psychology is simply a witch hunt couched in technical-sounding language, and people need to wake up and realize that. Psychology is not a science, and it never will be. At best, it can tell you that what you really want deep down inside is to have sex with your mother. At worst, it destroys families and lives.
It's funny. I got my opinion of psychology from my folks. Except when I came out to them and told them what kind of a wall I was up against at that time in my life, suddenly psychology became credible in their eyes. I guess I feel sorry for them, thinking that their son is horribly mentally ill, any chance of being able to realize that our initial assumptions about my gender were incorrect destroyed by mo
My case is transparent purple, you insensitive clod. Seriously, going on 12 years, I've had a matching purple power strip and case. Otoh, when I first built my system it was and AMD Thunderbird with a Voodoo 5 Video card. It was pretty kick-ass at the time. These days I have tons of ram, tons of processor, tons of everything, and the best part is, I still have a matching purple case and purple power strip!
Boys.. you just don't get it. Girls.. you don't get it either. I guess I don't know what my point is, other than form + function = win and gender = fail.
Java and Javascript are two completely different technologies. The only thing they have in common is a C-like syntax and four letters.
It's the same thing to glue a Javascript object to a Java object as to glue a C# or Ruby or PHP or Perl or CGI or whatever you're running server-side object to a Javascript or VBScript or Ruby or whatever you're running client-side object.
I find languages like Javascript and Ruby very interesting, but just don't get it mixed up that Java has anything to do with Javascript. Java is like C++ with training wheels affixed to a rail track (not saying C++ is good, either). It's a very "correct" language, and it's Java's way or the highway. Javascript, on the other hand, gives you more than enough rope to hang yourself, along with several ways to shoot yourself in the foot and a blindfold if you want.
Very different technologies, and it's a pet peeve of mine when people assume they have anything to do with each other or that they must needs have anything to do with each other. Javascript won't go away in the browser, true, but I'd rather have C#, PHP, or anything else server-side any day of the week. (Javascript server-side with something like Ruby's DRb over AJAX? Might be interesting.)
You know damned well it doesn't work that way. Ask your local soccer mom. Linux has a scary black background with a cryptic text interface and is either a.) a tool for copyright infringement to steal from hard-working, job-creating content owners b.) only used by subversive teenagers c.) used to commit cyber crimes (just like in The Lawnmower Man and isn't it wonderful that writer in Maine can explain computers to us simple folken, say thankya) d.) a tool of the devil with its black background. Nobody who does Real Work has a need to run Linux. Real Work is done in Word and Excel.
There are people who honestly think things like this. Yes, there are people who honestly do not realize that linux-based system power incredibly useful software like Apache. There are people who use MyTwitFace every day who think that being able to even pull up the HTML source of a webpage makes someone a potentially dangerous hacker.
You should be afraid and always strive to prevent those people from gaining political clout. They are not ignorant or stupid. Never think they are ignorant or stupid. I will never understand what they really think. I only understand what they say and do.
I guess that being said, I'm going to go order my Android tablet now. Powered by a Linux-derived kernel and open-source software. Yet I still need to "root" it to be able to install the free software I want to use and write. I'm not sure what to think of that. I just don't know what to think, and I'm afraid of what the future might hold when this tablet breaks and I want to buy the next latest-and-greatest device.
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Oh and you and the occupy movement shouldn't bother asking the government to give you my money once my career takes off
Excuse me, did I say anything about being part of the occupy movement or expecting the government to give me money? If you actually read my post for a minute, you might see that I took a loan and paid it back. I made every payment on time, thank you.
In fact, I'm with you on getting rid of welfare programs. I'm frankly sick and tired of my tax money going to people who frankly don't deserve it.
Perhaps if your parents weren't hopped up on pain killers and alcohol around the time of your conception you'd be able to comprehend that
Oh my! Me, not living within my means?! I said that I owned a home without having a degree. Do you know what that means? I sure as hell do live within my means to make that possible. Boo hoo about your housing market falling apart, and boo hoo that I was able to profit from it. There is no way in hell I'm going to throw my money away on rent if I don't have to.
Again, you come off as a spoiled jackass with an entitlement complex. You just go on thinking that there's some big government conspiracy that's enabling me to own a house. I still want to know where I sign up for these handouts I'm supposed to have. Maybe I'd at least get my damned money I earned myself back from the government that way.
My mom owns the house, but I pay for the utilities.
Ah, I'm glad you at least managed to answer my question. Wish I had that deal, but nobody said life had to be fair.
You, on the other hand, need to count your blessing once and a while.
So, do pray tell, how much did you pay for rent, electricity, and heat while doing that?
Or, don't tell me, you're yet another one of those special little snowflakes who can just stay at mommy and daddy's place until everything is perfect.
Get off your high horse you idiot.
On the other hand, I own a home and I've never had a degree. I even had loans to pay off after my ex-parents decided I was actually a demon who had killed their son and taken his form. Pain killers and prednisone and alcohol: it's bad for ya. But who gives a shit about those drug addicts. They could have at least come up with something better than a B movie plot.
Currently, getting a degree looks a bit like a scam, unless, of course, I had somewhere I could stay for free, which is apparently the deal you had.
You aren't nearly as hot shit as you think you are.
Been there, done that. It's not worth it. Men like you just need to stop making excuses for females. Maybe you should go get laid. You can come back when both your heart and your bank account are broken.
It's more likely that Lovelace was simply paraphrasing things Babbage had discussed with her. In the real world, females view mathematics as rape and don't understand why there's a computer on their desk. I've yet to meet a female who can even comprehend the basic features of a word processor such as tabstops or using 1st and 2nd level headings to organize the typo-ridden, disjointed, grammar catastrophe their vaginas vomit up on to a page.
Women don't /want/ to be equal. What they want is to be able to have a baby whenever they choose, and it doesn't matter what guy donates the genetic material necessary, just so long as they can make him look like a creep and a rapist so the child support checks will just flow in. Then they call this "good, christian family values."
Women know they can get most guys to just cave in to their every whim, and that's all that happened between Lovelace and Babbage. She probably gave him a good load of bullshit, just enough to trick him into thinking that she actually understood anything she was taking about. Of course, it was probably to Babbage's advantage anyway to make it look like a female could understand anything not related to motherhood.
Females can get equal pay when they're able to perform equal work. This myth about the first programmer being a woman is just yet another cudgel that females use to try to guilt trip men into giving them more and more handouts.
Well, ladies, you can bitch about it all you want, but they pay me because I make computers do things. You females, apparently, cannot, and that's why you don't get the job. You can call sexism and other hysterics all you want, but at the end of the day, the computer either goes or it doesn't, and you can either go through hundreds of items by hand to create the report the client wants or you can realize that a computer can do it in a matter of seconds. Even if you can't comprehend how the computer produces the answer for me and not for you, you females have to admit that at the end of the day, an employer would rather pay me 133% of your wages because you're only 75% as productive as me.
More men are starting to realize that, and we're getting tired of listening to your bullshit. The computer doesn't care what body parts its operator has no matter how loudly you want to bitch and moan that the gender of the person sitting in front of the computer is what's making it either work or not.
I've _personally_ seen amazing things that scientific research has made possible.
I've also _personally_ seen how religion can destroy families by privileging a 3,000 year old text over reality.
I hear this standpoint all the time, that subjective truth is just as valid as objective truth. It's rubbish.
Subjective truth predicts nothing. What does assuming your sky wizard exists or not enable me to do? Absolutely nothing except hate myself because god hates fags like me.
What does assuming dark matter exists enable me to do? Nothing except provide a possible explanation for why there's gravitational lensing in a picture of distant stars where there really shouldn't be.
What does assuming that different materials have different properties and assuming that mathematics is sound enable me to do? Build bridges, skyscrapers, better farming tools, more fuel-efficient cars, better looking video games, etc.
Well, I suppose, unless you believe that suspension bridges are something that your sky wizard just shits out on occasion. If you do, that's your choice. However, I sure as hell wouldn't hire you to design a new suspension bridge.
How the hell is this crap modded up? It doesn't just seem paranoid, it is paranoid.
You need to get some help, dude. It's called germophobia. Do you seriously avoid going out to eat because you're that afraid of germs? Hepatitis C?! I'll bet you've got quite the social life!
I'm not saying it doesn't happen and I have absolutely no numbers to back this up, but I have a feeling you're much more likely to get in a serious car accident on the way to the restaurant than you are to get hepatitis C!
I stopped using antibiotic soaps. I avoid them. I always check to make sure that triclosan isn't in any hand soaps I buy. I find these "hand sanitizers" popping up and the people who use them obsessively yet still seem to get sick for months on end every winter just completely absurd.
My body is covered by billions of microbes right now, and there are probably trillions all in all swimming around inside me. I've never felt better and my complexion has never been better.
Your immune system needs to be exposed to germs. Then the next time everyone else is rushing to Walgreens in some OMG BIRD MAN BEAR PIG FLU hysteria for their good little citizen vaccine and still getting sick anyway and being miserable for weeks, then you'll be the one who for some reason only gets sick once a blue moon and maybe for 2 days tops!
Good grief. Undoing a mod to reply because your post is just sheer paranoid lunacy, and I am absolutely sick of seeing paranoid lunacy being passed off as reasonable. It's called diminishing returns and sometimes simply just not knowing why things work and turning to superstition and self-fulfilling prophecies.
I'd agree about hospitals, though, just because of the massive derp of all the hypochondriacs who run to the ER every time they've got the sniffles.
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The problem is that this requires the average employee to be functionally literate.
Good luck with that. The older I get the more astounded I am at how far some people get in life who are completely unable to express or understand anything but the simplest ideas in writing.
Yeah, but then we found out that it's kind of risky. Someone might get hurt.
Wish I had mod points. Somebody mod parent informative.
Exactly. I assume the nominal fee covers the cost involved in filing the paperwork. You also know damned well you're making an absurd argument. Next you might as well argue that a woman shouldn't be allowed to marry a man with a small penis like you because that's dangerously close to marrying a woman with an enlarged clitoris.
I blame the obsession with trucks that have jacked-up suspensions and supersized SUVs. The last highway trip I measured in my 2011 Fiesta I got nearly 39 MPG (38.7 iirc). I can get between 32 and 34 in the city depending on how aggressive I am.
I tell these numbers to my SUV-driving cow-orkers, and I get nothing short of slack-jawed disbelief for a second that I get anything over 20 MPG, then my 39 MPG is usually dismissed out of hand because my car is small and not something a "real man" whatever that is would drive.
Well, toy or not, I like being able to go across the state and back on $30 instead of $130. Point being I suppose that my car has air conditioning that works wonderfully. I was too cheap to get the power windows, but I highly doubt that power windows are going to make any kind of dent in MPG.
I seriously think you're overthinking it. Language does not work that way.
I pretty much came to the same conclusion after reading a variety of primary documents. It turned out that the kind of freedom they desired was the freedom to curtail others' freedoms at religious whim.
Ooh, let me try.
Scientist: Hmm, that's interesting. My measurements of global temperature have been trending upwards by X. It seems that the atmosphere works like a greenhouse and keeps the surface temperature higher than it would otherwise be. Compare Mars, Venus, and Mercury. It seems we've been releasing a lot of CO2, and my other study here shows that CO2 can increase the greenhouse effect by Y.
Warmist: The sky is falling! We're raping the planet! See! We should all be subsistence farmers living in communes! Technology will kill us all!
Denier: Bah, all those measurements are crap. No warming is happening. They placed the thermometers places that magically increase in temperature independent of the rest of the world each year.
Scientist: Hmm, that's interesting. Methane can also increase the greenhouse effect by Z.
Denier: See! He's contradicting himself! He's full of crap!
Warmist: No, it's the cows! We're raping the planet and killing cows and we should only eat vegetables and live in communes! Cows wouldn't fart if only we didn't have lightbulbs!
Scientist: Oops, it looks like my numbers were a bit off there. These new data show the global temperature is actually rising by P and carbon accounts for Q% of that. If this continues we could be in a bit of trouble.
Denier: See! You can't trust science! Scientists all want us to live in caves!
Scientist: That's not true. Perhaps we should build more nuclear reactors. I've found a good way to use thorium as a fuel to avoid the problems that some of the older, uranium-based reactors showed.
Everyone else: NUKE-U-LER! OH NOES! ATOM BOMBS! MELTDOWNS! OH NOES! FUKUSHIMA! CHERNOBYL! NOTHING GROWS IN 100 MILLION MILES OF CHERNOBYL! WE'LL ALL DIE!
Scientist: But even if we're not responsible as a species for the warming trend I observed, we'll still be in trouble if we don't do anything. Additionally, oil-based energy costs lives and presents a health risk that these numbers here show to be worse than all nuclear incidents combined. I also have a neat idea to focus solar energy on a central tower to efficiently use that as a power source. I think if we all sit down and calmly consider things we should find a way to establish long-term sustainability.
Denier: You communist! Solar is a dead end! How will I drive my SUV at night?! See? You said the warming might be natural! That means we actually don't need to do anything at all!
Warmist: No! There's no way to be sustainable! We all need to stop using all energy right now! Energy use is raping the planet!
Ad nauseum...
You sure can on the moon.
And every now and then when I'm underwater I let go of things I'm used to dropping, and they go up.
I know, stupid details. Faggots like me should just shut up while the rest of you take the world to hell in a handbasket because you can't handle that the real world is complicated.
Re: your sig. All the scholarships and opportunities I didn't qualify for because of my genitals, and all of the women I watched failed to take advantage of them lol at it.
My parents threw me out. They would not have if I had been female. My worked my ass off in a job I hate. Maybe I could have just gotten married to a guy who was rich if I'd been female. Now I own property. Yes, a homosexual, transsexual, fucking worthless faggot, and I own property because I have no other option for my own survival.
Perhaps you haven't considered that females just have it so much fucking easier, and that's why they're not forced into a corner of working a job they hate because they need the money. One of my co-workers is quitting her job because she found a guy who was willing to bankroll her so that she can be a stay at home mom. THAT'S HER FUCKING CHOICE AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DISCRIMINATION YOU FUCKING SHIT. PEOPLE JUST GIVE MONEY TO PEOPLE WITH CUNTS FOR NO OTHER REASON AND THAT'S HOW LIFE IS YOU FUCKING SHIT.
Just thought you should know. Thanks.
I'm going to get modded to hell, and I should be because this is offtopic, but I don't fucking care.
Don't you think females choose these things because they can? Because they live in a world where they have personal value for no more damned reason than they bleed once per month? And you feel sorry for them?
You're a fucking idiot.
The great thing about prophecies like that is that they're vague enough to apply to any period of unusual weather you want them to.
The line about wars and rumors of wars always makes me snort. History of civilization right there.
Sorry to break it to you, but your holy books have no more predictive power than the horoscope column in a newspaper.
I'd like to reply to both you and some of the people who've replied to you who have been modded up instead of modding this whole thread down.
I'm homosexual, you insensitive clod.
There was an openly gay guy at my high school. He was surrounded by girls. Does that make him more of a man than you?
By your logic, it must.
It took me a long time to realize I was homosexual. All through high school and for quite a few years after that I would get pissed and irritated and tell everyone, "I'm not gay!" Then I couldn't figure out why nobody wanted to be around me. Come to find out, women are people, not sexual objects or prizes to be won.
I've found that if you like women, you tend to sleep with them. If you like men, you tend to sleep with them. My roommate, also a geek, tends to have sex on the first or second date, often with women a decade younger than he is.
Did you know there are women who absolutely hate men? That there are women who do refuse to associate with someone who's a programmer simply on those grounds? There are women who like to sleep with thugs? That "social skills" are not good enough to get in bed with any woman out there?
You can't impress a girl or say some magic words and snap your fingers and get in bed with her.
So, you sleep with a lot of women? How should I take that? Does that mean you're incapable of forming meaningful, long-term relationships? Does that mean you cheat a lot? What does that mean, exactly?
Just don't let anyone know your sexual preferences.
So what you're saying is that the guy who goes on and on about his wife and kids is ok, but the guy who lets something slip about his husband and kids...
Oh, nevermind. There's no talking sense into you people. "Family values" is a sham, and it makes me sick. Real family values might mean including your child who turns out to be homosexual or transgendered in your family instead of throwing him out with your trash.
Not like I care. Turns out I didn't need my family after all, just a shame they missed out on their child buying his/her first new car and buying a home because "family values" says that someone who isn't cisgendered and heterosexual can't be part of a family. It's also why when I want canned soup or chili, I buy Campbell's exclusively, even when something else is on sale. At least Campbell's soup thinks I deserve to have a family despite being LGBTQOMGWTFBBQ and has the balls to advertise to people who aren't heterosexual and to go tell "family values" to screw off.
As someone who was born with a gender problem, I hope the DSM loses all credibility when the next edition comes out. Sorry for the rant, but you've made a very good point I'd like to expand upon and get a few things out of my system.
Basically, from what I understand, they're seriously considering listing "electroshock" as a treatment for the gender problem I have. I've looked into electroshock, and it's an interesting approach, kind of like using a stick of dynamite to remove a housefly. Apparently it can be therapeutic for certain kinds of depression, and it can also cause amnesia. Sometimes I think having amnesia would be nice. I'd wake up thinking I'm a normal woman and forget about the time I was forced by people who knew what was best for me to parade myself around as a guy.
One thing it does not do, however, is change the brain's sex from female to male or whatever they think it accomplishes in the treatment of a gender mismatch between brain and genitals. If they ever do figure out a way to do that, maybe I'll consider becoming a man, but electroshock does not do that, no matter what kind of wishful thinking and cargo cult science they employ. Being a man has some advantages, but it's simply not what I am, and wishful thinking or sky wizards or whatever else simply aren't going to change that.
Basically, the DSM V is going to be a joke. I hope it'll be a ha-ha joke. I'm afraid it might be a cruel joke.
At any rate, what can I do about it? I'm already diagnosable with a mental illness according to the DSM IV. Apparently, having a female brain is a kind of mental illness. Being attracted to men is a mental illness. Why not just lock up anyone with a vagina, since most of them are attracted to men, have breasts (and I hear some of them even enjoy being fondled), masturbate while wearing panties, and dress up in women's clothes? A shocking revelation, I'm sure.
For that matter, what can you do about it? I think that's your core point, and something I wish more people would understand. You'll be diagnosed under the DSM V. Once you've become "mentally ill" anything you self-report goes out the window, because you need "help." Any disagreements, objections, or concerns you might have about your treatment are signs of a lack of progress. Because they know what's best for you. All you need to do is obediently submit to their every command.
Well, maybe the BDSM reference is a bit over the top, but from my perspective, being forced to have testosterone in my body and being forced to have a body with male body parts while dressing up in clothes that no real woman ever wears just for the hope that I might get meds that I need is pretty close to BDSM. And I don't like BDSM. Yeah, maybe my body produces testosterone without medical intervention, but other people's bodies also do things that aren't optimal without medical intervention. I'm not hearing any suggestions that insulin should be withheld from someone with type 2 diabetes unless they jump through hoops and barrels and commit to losing weight. Some people can control their diabetes without medication, just like some people can appear to be attractive members of the "opposite" sex without medication. That doesn't mean it's the best way or the right way for everyone.
Psychology is simply a witch hunt couched in technical-sounding language, and people need to wake up and realize that. Psychology is not a science, and it never will be. At best, it can tell you that what you really want deep down inside is to have sex with your mother. At worst, it destroys families and lives.
It's funny. I got my opinion of psychology from my folks. Except when I came out to them and told them what kind of a wall I was up against at that time in my life, suddenly psychology became credible in their eyes. I guess I feel sorry for them, thinking that their son is horribly mentally ill, any chance of being able to realize that our initial assumptions about my gender were incorrect destroyed by mo
Her: "Look they are letting me pick the color!"
My case is transparent purple, you insensitive clod. Seriously, going on 12 years, I've had a matching purple power strip and case. Otoh, when I first built my system it was and AMD Thunderbird with a Voodoo 5 Video card. It was pretty kick-ass at the time. These days I have tons of ram, tons of processor, tons of everything, and the best part is, I still have a matching purple case and purple power strip!
Boys.. you just don't get it. Girls.. you don't get it either. I guess I don't know what my point is, other than form + function = win and gender = fail.
Java and Javascript are two completely different technologies. The only thing they have in common is a C-like syntax and four letters.
It's the same thing to glue a Javascript object to a Java object as to glue a C# or Ruby or PHP or Perl or CGI or whatever you're running server-side object to a Javascript or VBScript or Ruby or whatever you're running client-side object.
I find languages like Javascript and Ruby very interesting, but just don't get it mixed up that Java has anything to do with Javascript. Java is like C++ with training wheels affixed to a rail track (not saying C++ is good, either). It's a very "correct" language, and it's Java's way or the highway. Javascript, on the other hand, gives you more than enough rope to hang yourself, along with several ways to shoot yourself in the foot and a blindfold if you want.
Very different technologies, and it's a pet peeve of mine when people assume they have anything to do with each other or that they must needs have anything to do with each other. Javascript won't go away in the browser, true, but I'd rather have C#, PHP, or anything else server-side any day of the week. (Javascript server-side with something like Ruby's DRb over AJAX? Might be interesting.)
You know damned well it doesn't work that way. Ask your local soccer mom. Linux has a scary black background with a cryptic text interface and is either a.) a tool for copyright infringement to steal from hard-working, job-creating content owners b.) only used by subversive teenagers c.) used to commit cyber crimes (just like in The Lawnmower Man and isn't it wonderful that writer in Maine can explain computers to us simple folken, say thankya) d.) a tool of the devil with its black background. Nobody who does Real Work has a need to run Linux. Real Work is done in Word and Excel.
There are people who honestly think things like this. Yes, there are people who honestly do not realize that linux-based system power incredibly useful software like Apache. There are people who use MyTwitFace every day who think that being able to even pull up the HTML source of a webpage makes someone a potentially dangerous hacker.
You should be afraid and always strive to prevent those people from gaining political clout. They are not ignorant or stupid. Never think they are ignorant or stupid. I will never understand what they really think. I only understand what they say and do.
I guess that being said, I'm going to go order my Android tablet now. Powered by a Linux-derived kernel and open-source software. Yet I still need to "root" it to be able to install the free software I want to use and write. I'm not sure what to think of that. I just don't know what to think, and I'm afraid of what the future might hold when this tablet breaks and I want to buy the next latest-and-greatest device.
Here you go http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-man-constantly-mentioning-he-doesnt-own-a-tel,429/
"Companion Core"
Is it weighted? I'm still suffering trauma from being forced to incinerate my last weighted companion. It was my only friend *sniffle*