Whatever you tink about Lou Dobbs, it's very irresponsible to just dismiss him as a racist.
Even "nationalist" is nonsense, he's merely pointing out one of the problems with unresitriced and unbalanced "unfair" trade. Now, you could argue this is a good thing, and we could point out the problems and have a discussion. But by labeling him a racist, the only thing you're trying to do is to "shut down" any arguments by coming up with ridiculous ad hominem attacks.
I'm an immigrant to this country, and I'm not a fan of outsourcing. I'm all for other immigrants from all over the world to continue coming here and contributing their talents to our local economies, but there is a problem when now people don't even want to become US residents, because they jobs are being drained away from here. We're about to face a serious crisis, when our technological workforce is being decimated by these companies. And there's nothing racist in pointing that out, nothing.
As for security, I don't think most if any people here are saying that a particular nationality is less trustworthy. But you'd be a fool if you don't recognize that some of the safety mechanism we enjoy in this country, are not as robust or even exist in other parts of the less developed world. As we deal with the poorest of nations, with our sensitive data, we have to be *extremely* careful. Already, there have been incidents of bribing by local crime syndicates in some of these countries to obtain data to steal identities. Can that happen in the US? Of course! But the question is, where is it more likely, and what are the protections we need to employ in these situations.
There's a rich discussion to be had on this topic, but please, try to come up with something better than "they're racist".
October 26, 2004 - 16:54 EDT In addition to the iPod Photo and U2 iPod, Apple also introduced today a set of colored "socks" for carrying iPods. Packaged similar to real socks, the iPod Socks will come in six different color combinations (what appeared to be green, blue, grey, orange, pink, aqua) for US$29. While no information can be found on Apple's Web site,
Apple CEO Steve Jobs said they will be available starting in mid-November
Available since mid November of 2004, is the April fools here that slashdot is trying to pass this as news?
> No, I didn't miss the point. I actually did find it amusing. However, it is a joke based on a falsehood and the joke perpetuates the falsehood
It sounded like he, like most politicians, was trying to take credit for it. We all know the urban legend behind this, but no matter how many times people post the snopes.com entry on it, it doesn't mean that is wasn't a poorly worded phrase and funny to cite.
> No, Google, POP access doesn't count. I don't want my mail stored on my box at home, I want it stored on a server that I can access from anywhere - a server that is managed by people who know and care about security.
You can access the email via POP and leave it on gmail
> FM truly rocks. I can use Thunderbird at home, at work, and on my notebook. On the road, I can use the web-interface. Everything stays in sync, so I always have access to my mail.
I use Thunderbird to access my gmail account too
> I want IMAP/SSL, not POP. I want SpamAssassin. I want powerful rules to sort my mail into folders.
OK, it's only got POP access, but it's SSL encrypted.
There are rules to put mail in labels, or forward the email, etc.
> Lucas's ideas are so pedestrian, so cliched, so utterly devoid of originality or creativity. The GOOD GUYS WEAR WHITE (Luke), and the BAD GUYS WEAR BLACK (Vader). (Yeah I know, the stormtroopers break the rule, but I'll bet you dollars to donuts that they're only white so Vader stood out on film).
You just contradict yourself and try to get out of it, but even you know you're not making any sense. Yes, the Stormtroopers were white so why are you making this stupid comment? And what's wrong with Vader having a black outfit.
Hey Luke wears black on ROTJ, and General Grievious is all white in Revenge of the Sith. What the hell are you talking about???
---
(b) [Fig.] To advance beyond a difficult stage in a
project, or in life. ---
Doblar una esquina means literally to turn a corner, it doesn't mean the same as the figure of speech they seem to imply.
Arrinconar means putting something in a corner, to chase somebody, and a couple of other meanings. But none of them mean the english phrase of "turning a corner"
> (1) PRO software patent ~~ "Creationism" Every business process ("click?") and every algorithm ("formula?") was created in a vacuum, by the inspired touch of the hand of God. And since God isn't in business, the programmer/corporation has every right to protect this "Inspired Property" from God, with a patent.
Whoa, wait a second, I don't see how you can make that comparision at all.
Non software patents are not created in a vacum, science doesn't develop in a vacum, you depend on rules and discoveries from other people.
You could come up with an entirely unique algorithm or program that does something in a new way, but of course you're going to be using ideas that already exist, just like you would do with a physical invention.
The future list is nothing to get excited about, GNOME is so far away from competing with the OSX and WinXP desktops it's not even funny.
The default screenshots look like Windows95, and the list of new features are just pathetic. Is there a group of graphic designers associated with this project? It surely doesn't look like it at all.
You know you don't have much to say in the new features dept. when one of the first things you mention is new desktop background tiles!
I just had this discussion with a co-worker yesterday.
Now, to be clear, I'm not a fan of software patents. A lot of these patents that I see enforced, are for trivial things that shouldn't have been patented in the first place, like "one click" shopping. And what about general things like sorting algorithms, if bubble sort was patented, it would have done serious harm to just even teaching the profession.
Having said that, I see that most people on slashdot want to get rid of software patents, but what I'm wondering is, why only software? I think you are either for patents or against, and that computer scientists basically "disarming" themselves is not a good idea.
Unless I'm missing something, it seems people value physical inventions more than software ones, and that doesn't make sense to me. Sometimes the software "inventions" are even more complex and influencial than your physical ones. If you say, get rid of the software patents, we're saying our work doesn't deserve the same protection as work from other fields? Just because our work is software? That doesn't make sense to me.
Maybe we should raise the bar on software patents, maybe we shouldn't let "business processes" be patented (one click for example), but I don't think it's consistent to say CS work is less deserving than work from other fields.
I don't think it's unreasonable for businesses to charge for this, but it sure doesn't make a lot of sense to me when many are pushing "subscription" models to their customers.
Went last night to Barnes and Noble and noticed they had a "Wi-Fi" sign. So I figured this is great, I hang around look at some books and catch up on my email, but lo and behold you have to pay for a 19.99 monthly (1-year min) subscription fee! Why would I pay for ISP accesses that is so limited?
Yeah, they have a 2 hour $4 accesses, but this doesn't make much sense to me. The real attraction here is that if you want people to hang around your store, just offere it up for free, or charge a very minimal amount for usage that day (not for time).
Many of us have and are working in the "real world" out there, and I've been less than impressed with most documentation on large products.
Not to mention design documents, which end up being dead documents that are outdated as soon as the first line of code is written. To many corporations, there's no big incentive to spend so much money on these types of activities when you can have people just churning out code and finishing the darned product in the end.
I'm not saying commericial development is any worse, but I can't say it's any better for sure either.
The point wasn't, nobody's using Mono so it's not usable. The point was that the original poster was saying that he's using.Net because Java is not multi platform enough for server side development.
I find that interesting, specially when yes, as the poster you replied to said, Java is used way more on "production sites".
> It really is nice to develop server applications that can run on Windows and Linux, which is really nice for people who develop for enterprise level deployments. One company will want to use you server in a 2003 domain, the next wants it to run on Red Hat. With C++ and to some extent even Java this just does not work.
What doesn't work? People have been doing server side Java development for a long time now, and you tout this as an innovention from.net? BTW,.net has less platform support than the Java VM, so your statement is really misinformed.
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Whatever you tink about Lou Dobbs, it's very irresponsible to just dismiss him as a racist.
Even "nationalist" is nonsense, he's merely pointing out one of the problems with unresitriced and unbalanced "unfair" trade. Now, you could argue this is a good thing, and we could point out the problems and have a discussion. But by labeling him a racist, the only thing you're trying to do is to "shut down" any arguments by coming up with ridiculous ad hominem attacks.
I'm an immigrant to this country, and I'm not a fan of outsourcing. I'm all for other immigrants from all over the world to continue coming here and contributing their talents to our local economies, but there is a problem when now people don't even want to become US residents, because they jobs are being drained away from here. We're about to face a serious crisis, when our technological workforce is being decimated by these companies. And there's nothing racist in pointing that out, nothing.
As for security, I don't think most if any people here are saying that a particular nationality is less trustworthy. But you'd be a fool if you don't recognize that some of the safety mechanism we enjoy in this country, are not as robust or even exist in other parts of the less developed world. As we deal with the poorest of nations, with our sensitive data, we have to be *extremely* careful. Already, there have been incidents of bribing by local crime syndicates in some of these countries to obtain data to steal identities. Can that happen in the US? Of course! But the question is, where is it more likely, and what are the protections we need to employ in these situations.
There's a rich discussion to be had on this topic, but please, try to come up with something better than "they're racist".
This makes sense for people who already have or want to buy a PSP for *gasp* ... playing games.
C'mon people, use your brain!!!
Spangrish?
http://www.macminute.com/2004/10/26/ipodsocks/
Apple to offer iPod Socks
Available since mid November of 2004, is the April fools here that slashdot is trying to pass this as news?
> No, I didn't miss the point. I actually did find it amusing. However, it is a joke based on a falsehood and the joke perpetuates the falsehood
It sounded like he, like most politicians, was trying to take credit for it. We all know the urban legend behind this, but no matter how many times people post the snopes.com entry on it, it doesn't mean that is wasn't a poorly worded phrase and funny to cite.
> No, Google, POP access doesn't count. I don't want my mail stored on my box at home, I want it stored on a server that I can access from anywhere - a server that is managed by people who know and care about security.
You can access the email via POP and leave it on gmail
> FM truly rocks. I can use Thunderbird at home, at work, and on my notebook. On the road, I can use the web-interface. Everything stays in sync, so I always have access to my mail.
I use Thunderbird to access my gmail account too
> I want IMAP/SSL, not POP. I want SpamAssassin. I want powerful rules to sort my mail into folders.
OK, it's only got POP access, but it's SSL encrypted.
There are rules to put mail in labels, or forward the email, etc.
> Lucas's ideas are so pedestrian, so cliched, so utterly devoid of originality or creativity. The GOOD GUYS WEAR WHITE (Luke), and the BAD GUYS WEAR BLACK (Vader). (Yeah I know, the stormtroopers break the rule, but I'll bet you dollars to donuts that they're only white so Vader stood out on film).
You just contradict yourself and try to get out of it, but even you know you're not making any sense. Yes, the Stormtroopers were white so why are you making this stupid comment? And what's wrong with Vader having a black outfit.
Hey Luke wears black on ROTJ, and General Grievious is all white in Revenge of the Sith. What the hell are you talking about???
Has an ad script that does popunders with popup blocking in Firefox. Adblock seems to be the only way i can suppress this in Firefox ...
It doesn't have the same meaning as in Spanish.
---
(b) [Fig.] To advance beyond a difficult stage in a
project, or in life.
---
Doblar una esquina means literally to turn a corner, it doesn't mean the same as the figure of speech they seem to imply.
Arrinconar means putting something in a corner, to chase somebody, and a couple of other meanings. But none of them mean the english phrase of "turning a corner"
unlikely, rincon in spanish means just that corner, but "turn a corner" is a phrase that doesn't exist in spanish.
> (1) PRO software patent ~~ "Creationism"
Every business process ("click?") and every algorithm ("formula?") was created in a vacuum,
by the inspired touch of the hand of God. And since God isn't in business, the programmer/corporation has every right to protect this "Inspired Property" from God, with a patent.
Whoa, wait a second, I don't see how you can make that comparision at all.
Non software patents are not created in a vacum, science doesn't develop in a vacum, you depend on rules and discoveries from other people.
You could come up with an entirely unique algorithm or program that does something in a new way, but of course you're going to be using ideas that already exist, just like you would do with a physical invention.
I would love to see the new theme, and no, those desktop environemnts don't get updated every 6 months.
Having said that, Gnome still looks like Win95, and how long has Gnome being released?
BTW - Don't know why I was modded "troll", I dislike the graphic non design of that desktop environment. How's that trolling?
The future list is nothing to get excited about, GNOME is so far away from competing with the OSX and WinXP desktops it's not even funny.
...
The default screenshots look like Windows95, and the list of new features are just pathetic. Is there a group of graphic designers associated with this project? It surely doesn't look like it at all.
You know you don't have much to say in the new features dept. when one of the first things you mention is new desktop background tiles!
Goodness gracious
I just had this discussion with a co-worker yesterday.
Now, to be clear, I'm not a fan of software patents. A lot of these patents that I see enforced, are for trivial things that shouldn't have been patented in the first place, like "one click" shopping. And what about general things like sorting algorithms, if bubble sort was patented, it would have done serious harm to just even teaching the profession.
Having said that, I see that most people on slashdot want to get rid of software patents, but what I'm wondering is, why only software? I think you are either for patents or against, and that computer scientists basically "disarming" themselves is not a good idea.
Unless I'm missing something, it seems people value physical inventions more than software ones, and that doesn't make sense to me. Sometimes the software "inventions" are even more complex and influencial than your physical ones. If you say, get rid of the software patents, we're saying our work doesn't deserve the same protection as work from other fields? Just because our work is software? That doesn't make sense to me.
Maybe we should raise the bar on software patents, maybe we shouldn't let "business processes" be patented (one click for example), but I don't think it's consistent to say CS work is less deserving than work from other fields.
ask him to give you 3 sarcasm pills, and post again in the morning ...
Flash lets people talk back to a server that it was not loaded from? That's not a good idea at all.
Is it a mathematician without the degree? Or perhaps some type of numerogoly wizard?
... coming from somebody called "MoriaOrc".
It was just a quote, relax.
> So...if it's not on the internet, it must not exist right....right!?
"If an item does not appear in our records, it does not exist." - Jocasta Nu, Attack of the Clones.
I don't think it's unreasonable for businesses to charge for this, but it sure doesn't make a lot of sense to me when many are pushing "subscription" models to their customers.
Went last night to Barnes and Noble and noticed they had a "Wi-Fi" sign. So I figured this is great, I hang around look at some books and catch up on my email, but lo and behold you have to pay for a 19.99 monthly (1-year min) subscription fee! Why would I pay for ISP accesses that is so limited?
Yeah, they have a 2 hour $4 accesses, but this doesn't make much sense to me. The real attraction here is that if you want people to hang around your store, just offere it up for free, or charge a very minimal amount for usage that day (not for time).
And it's often not.
Many of us have and are working in the "real world" out there, and I've been less than impressed with most documentation on large products.
Not to mention design documents, which end up being dead documents that are outdated as soon as the first line of code is written. To many corporations, there's no big incentive to spend so much money on these types of activities when you can have people just churning out code and finishing the darned product in the end.
I'm not saying commericial development is any worse, but I can't say it's any better for sure either.
" The basic unit starts at $27,000 and some go up to $100,000 for additional storage"
This is ridiculous, and why does the storage make that much difference? Can't you just add your own cheap storage, this thing is way overpriced!
Now I can unwittingly download the latest spyware!
Miguel;
.Net because Java is not multi platform enough for server side development.
The point wasn't, nobody's using Mono so it's not usable. The point was that the original poster was saying that he's using
I find that interesting, specially when yes, as the poster you replied to said, Java is used way more on "production sites".
> It really is nice to develop server applications that can run on Windows and Linux, which is really nice for people who develop for enterprise level deployments. One company will want to use you server in a 2003 domain, the next wants it to run on Red Hat. With C++ and to some extent even Java this just does not work.
.net? BTW, .net has less platform support than the Java VM, so your statement is really misinformed.
What doesn't work? People have been doing server side Java development for a long time now, and you tout this as an innovention from