Well the word "topic" it still applies, as there can be a nasty security hole in anything theoretically. At least that's how I took it until I read your above post. Although, it's probably not the word I would have used in that context.
This GPL v666 arguement doesn't hold water.
The following text is from GPL v2, Section 9. In GPL v3, it is in Section 14.
If the Program specifies that a certain numbered version of the GNU General Public License âoeor any later versionâ applies to it, you have the option of following the terms and conditions either of that numbered version or of any later version published by the Free Software Foundation.
Because your GPL v666 is not published by the FSF, you cannot relicense existing GPL'd software under it.
While I would agree with you in theory, your ideas don't match up with what I've seen in the real world.
Until recently I worked in a mom and pop PC repair business. About 9 out of 10 systems I worked on were out of date, typically by a few months. I don't know for sure, but my guess is that users are switching auto-update off because can't be bothered with 'nag' messages from their software.
Granted, the machines I saw were generally dying, so it may not be a fair cross-section of home computer users. Still, the idea that 99% of home users should have new patches within a week flies in the face of what I saw every day.
They never planned to make money directly from the browser, or to dominate the browser market.
They use it as a vehicle to implement web standards, under a license that allows any other browsers to adopt the improvements.
Thus the web improves, which directly benefits Google (as well as others)
If you're having lock-ups that badly, you have a either a hardware problem or a driver problem. My guess is it's a restricted driver causing your issue.
Or how sad how many Americans have fallen in love with Obama even though he hasn't done anything but blow smoke up everyone's ass? Maybe he'll be a great president.. I don't know because so far all he's done is talk about change.. changing what though?
He's been clear on what he plans to change and how he plans to do it. Check out The Blue-print for Change (Warning: PDF)
To be fair, digital noise reduction does more than just remove hiss. It has a tendency to make the sound more muffled, and you lose detail on high frequencies. I used to use noise reduction on my old 4-Track recordings, but I stopped after a friend pointed out the differences it makes.
As for noise gating, there can sometimes be a noticeable fade-in\out when the gate opens and closes. I find that annoying but some folks don't really care.
It's just better that they're untouched. It allows the downloader to de-hiss it themselves if they so choose.
This works well with my new Nokia 3G phone. However, not so much with my little rinky-dink Motorola that I got free from a contract a few years back. The signal for the voice network on that one was never that great anyway.
I also got good results using a large spaghetti strainer for the dish assembly. That yielded a roughly 10-20% better signal than the ceramic bowl I was using before.
I'm curious to see how it works with OpenMoko Neo FreeRunner, given that it's a Tri-band phone.
The overall user experience sucks at best. Go ahead and flame me. Last week's installs left a lot to be desired. We started with Fedora core 9 and and had all sorts of video and lock up problems. We abandoned it after three days of trying. The install disk wouldn't even run without a resolution parameter.
Perhaps you know this already, but Fedora is a distro that caters to Linux hobbyists who know what they're doing. To a certain extent, you were asking for some extra work when you chose it.
Sorry to hear about your lockup issues. They are probably driver related, but they will be cleared up eventually. For example, I once had a Broadcom Wireless card that didn't work at all. After using NDisWrapper, the card worked for a while but would lock up the system. One day a kernel update came along and my card was supported fully on initial OS install, with no extra work and no lockups.
As another example of success, I installed Ubuntu Hardy 64-bit on my Macbook. At first install, the system would not suspend properly and when it woke up it exhibited wierd behavior. Happily for me, yesterday I ran an update that included a kernel patch, and my problem just disappeared. I couldn't be more thrilled.
If you're having issues your should file a bug report to the appropriate developer team and hope for the best. Eventually your problem will be resolved; You're not the only one experiencing your issue.
We moved to Ubuntu.
That's more like it. It seems like Ubuntu's more likely to fit your requirements (ie that it just works with minimum hassle)
Much better but Gnome is 5 years behind OS/X (Forget about KDE 4).
You have a right to your opinion, but I disagree. I like Gnome. Are you refering to eye candy? Turn on Compiz using System->Preferences->Appearance.
Why should I forget KDE4, effectively disregarding countless man-hours of development for no stated reason?
Sound still is an issue with Sound Blaster
Since you're comparing Linux so much about OSX, I'm gonna assume that you may be installing it on a Mac. Apple applies a DSP (digital sound processor) to their sound before outputting it to the speakers. Perhaps to compensate you should add a DSP to ubuntu
but at least we have something much more usable than Fedora. I wish the effort is spent on making installs a breeze. default install still ships with many useless apps.
I agree. Usability is important. Then again, you did pick a hobbyist distro. Also, you can remove any app you don't use, or move on to a slimmer distro.
We use Linux for all of our production JBOSS servers and it has been absolutely wonderful. One day (I hope) the user experience will be as good.
I realize this now. Slashdot rendered it funny until I refreshed the page, making it look like a reply to the wrong parent. Thus post #2 became somewhat of a meta goof.
You DO realize that Wii has no demos nor other way to preview games??? They do offer the Nintendo channel, which gives you a streaming video preview of some titles. Your other options include youtube, renting the game from Blockbuster first or Googling up a game review.
While I can see the point you're trying to make, it has its flaws.
The problem is that once you remove folks from the decision making process, you open the doors for abuse of the system. Such a system that you suggest would have to be implemented with extreme care to prevent elites from disenfranchising voters to promote their own agenda.
Hod does the nation decide who is qualified to make decisions on what issues? How would you resolve disagreements about who is qualified to vote?
That said, I do not believe that our current system is immune to abuse and manipulation of the ignorant. Not by a longshot.
I have a feeling that "they don't work because the team didn't take input from education professionals" actually translates to "education professionals are rejecting the OLPCs whether or not the computers and software are good because they didn't get to push the development team around."
Remember, contemporary education processes are all about complying with some ideology of how teaching should be done, not about actually successfully teaching kids. I can't say that I see the point of the education professionals' complaints. All of the software on the OLPC is Free Software (with the exception of the WiFi firmware). If they disagree with the developers over how things should be done, no one is stopping them from forking the project and re-shaping it their own way.
For all of you who have "set up a machine" for their parents and it "works just fine", I submit that requiring an expert to set up a system for an end user is the very definition of "not ready". In today's world that end user (even Mom) might need to change something, install something new, access something different and then things require an expert to "ssh in to fix things". I'm willing to argue that the same is true for Windows.
Does your mom feel comfortable installing and setting up a Windows machine from scratch?
Would your grandmother know that in order to get her devices working, she has to look in Device Manager, identify the device, and hunt down the driver at the OEM's website?
The fact is that lots of "illiterates" would not even be willing to try, regardless of the OS they're using. When it comes to anything remotely technical, often they would rather just call their local geek.
If you really need an external wireless adapter, why don't you try one that connects via the Ethernet port? These devices require no drivers and work on anything that supports Ethernet -- even game systems. You usually configure them via web browser.
Mine is a Buffalo WLI-TX4-G54HP and it's never failed me. There are plenty of other alternatives as well.
Sorry to hear about your bad luck with hardware support. It will get better over time, though, because OEM's that support Linux (like Dell) are putting pressure on hardware manufacturers to provide Linux drivers. Until then, it's best to research a device's compatibility online before you dive in and buy it.
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Not so. In fact, the GPL depends on copyright law to enforce its terms.
Meh, the G1 doesn't let you flash your own OS onto it by default, unless you hack it.
True, but this doesn't have anything to do with the OS, only the phone. The Android Dev Phone 1, by comparison, lets you flash an unsigned image.
This is a carrier problem, which has reared its ugly head on most platforms in one way or another.
Well the word "topic" it still applies, as there can be a nasty security hole in anything theoretically. At least that's how I took it until I read your above post. Although, it's probably not the word I would have used in that context.
If the Program specifies that a certain numbered version of the GNU General Public License âoeor any later versionâ applies to it, you have the option of following the terms and conditions either of that numbered version or of any later version published by the Free Software Foundation.
Because your GPL v666 is not published by the FSF, you cannot relicense existing GPL'd software under it.
Will they force Google to allow other browsers to be shipped with android?
Any individual or company can already do this. See: Apache License, Version 2.0
While I would agree with you in theory, your ideas don't match up with what I've seen in the real world.
Until recently I worked in a mom and pop PC repair business. About 9 out of 10 systems I worked on were out of date, typically by a few months. I don't know for sure, but my guess is that users are switching auto-update off because can't be bothered with 'nag' messages from their software.
Granted, the machines I saw were generally dying, so it may not be a fair cross-section of home computer users. Still, the idea that 99% of home users should have new patches within a week flies in the face of what I saw every day.
They never planned to make money directly from the browser, or to dominate the browser market.
They use it as a vehicle to implement web standards, under a license that allows any other browsers to adopt the improvements. Thus the web improves, which directly benefits Google (as well as others)
So... how long will it be before someone uses the grid to distribute the computational load necessary to break some high-profile encryption?
That being said, how will the computational traffic be managed? Will there be a "grid neutrality" debate in the near future?
Pot and kettle.
If you're having lock-ups that badly, you have a either a hardware problem or a driver problem. My guess is it's a restricted driver causing your issue.
Or how sad how many Americans have fallen in love with Obama even though he hasn't done anything but blow smoke up everyone's ass? Maybe he'll be a great president.. I don't know because so far all he's done is talk about change.. changing what though?
He's been clear on what he plans to change and how he plans to do it. Check out The Blue-print for Change (Warning: PDF)
Honestly, what makes you think that Gnome is so hard to figure out? Even KDE is simple because it feels very windows-like.
Linux is easy for day to day use. Joe sixpack may not know how to set it up, but he isn't good at things like that on windows anyhow.
To be fair, digital noise reduction does more than just remove hiss. It has a tendency to make the sound more muffled, and you lose detail on high frequencies. I used to use noise reduction on my old 4-Track recordings, but I stopped after a friend pointed out the differences it makes.
As for noise gating, there can sometimes be a noticeable fade-in\out when the gate opens and closes. I find that annoying but some folks don't really care.
It's just better that they're untouched. It allows the downloader to de-hiss it themselves if they so choose.
I'm willing to bet you write documents in vi and check your mail in pine as well.
To each his own, but in all honesty there are some tasks where the keyboard is faster, and others where the mouse is ideal.
I had the same reaction. Care to explain why it's wrong?
This works well with my new Nokia 3G phone. However, not so much with my little rinky-dink Motorola that I got free from a contract a few years back. The signal for the voice network on that one was never that great anyway.
I also got good results using a large spaghetti strainer for the dish assembly. That yielded a roughly 10-20% better signal than the ceramic bowl I was using before.
I'm curious to see how it works with OpenMoko Neo FreeRunner, given that it's a Tri-band phone.
The overall user experience sucks at best. Go ahead and flame me. Last week's installs left a lot to be desired. We started with Fedora core 9 and and had all sorts of video and lock up problems. We abandoned it after three days of trying. The install disk wouldn't even run without a resolution parameter.
Perhaps you know this already, but Fedora is a distro that caters to Linux hobbyists who know what they're doing. To a certain extent, you were asking for some extra work when you chose it.
Sorry to hear about your lockup issues. They are probably driver related, but they will be cleared up eventually. For example, I once had a Broadcom Wireless card that didn't work at all. After using NDisWrapper, the card worked for a while but would lock up the system. One day a kernel update came along and my card was supported fully on initial OS install, with no extra work and no lockups.
As another example of success, I installed Ubuntu Hardy 64-bit on my Macbook. At first install, the system would not suspend properly and when it woke up it exhibited wierd behavior. Happily for me, yesterday I ran an update that included a kernel patch, and my problem just disappeared. I couldn't be more thrilled.
If you're having issues your should file a bug report to the appropriate developer team and hope for the best. Eventually your problem will be resolved; You're not the only one experiencing your issue.
We moved to Ubuntu.
That's more like it. It seems like Ubuntu's more likely to fit your requirements (ie that it just works with minimum hassle)
Much better but Gnome is 5 years behind OS/X (Forget about KDE 4).
You have a right to your opinion, but I disagree. I like Gnome. Are you refering to eye candy? Turn on Compiz using System->Preferences->Appearance.
Why should I forget KDE4, effectively disregarding countless man-hours of development for no stated reason?
Sound still is an issue with Sound Blaster
Since you're comparing Linux so much about OSX, I'm gonna assume that you may be installing it on a Mac. Apple applies a DSP (digital sound processor) to their sound before outputting it to the speakers. Perhaps to compensate you should add a DSP to ubuntu
but at least we have something much more usable than Fedora. I wish the effort is spent on making installs a breeze. default install still ships with many useless apps.
I agree. Usability is important. Then again, you did pick a hobbyist distro. Also, you can remove any app you don't use, or move on to a slimmer distro.
We use Linux for all of our production JBOSS servers and it has been absolutely wonderful. One day (I hope) the user experience will be as good.
Glad to hear it.
I realize this now. Slashdot rendered it funny until I refreshed the page, making it look like a reply to the wrong parent. Thus post #2 became somewhat of a meta goof.
My above post was intended as a reply to Metlin's post. I apologize for my noob goof.
While I can see the point you're trying to make, it has its flaws.
The problem is that once you remove folks from the decision making process, you open the doors for abuse of the system. Such a system that you suggest would have to be implemented with extreme care to prevent elites from disenfranchising voters to promote their own agenda.
Hod does the nation decide who is qualified to make decisions on what issues? How would you resolve disagreements about who is qualified to vote?
That said, I do not believe that our current system is immune to abuse and manipulation of the ignorant. Not by a longshot.
Does your mom feel comfortable installing and setting up a Windows machine from scratch?
Would your grandmother know that in order to get her devices working, she has to look in Device Manager, identify the device, and hunt down the driver at the OEM's website?
The fact is that lots of "illiterates" would not even be willing to try, regardless of the OS they're using. When it comes to anything remotely technical, often they would rather just call their local geek.
If you really need an external wireless adapter, why don't you try one that connects via the Ethernet port? These devices require no drivers and work on anything that supports Ethernet -- even game systems. You usually configure them via web browser.
Mine is a Buffalo WLI-TX4-G54HP and it's never failed me. There are plenty of other alternatives as well.
Sorry to hear about your bad luck with hardware support. It will get better over time, though, because OEM's that support Linux (like Dell) are putting pressure on hardware manufacturers to provide Linux drivers. Until then, it's best to research a device's compatibility online before you dive in and buy it.