History in some cases does repeat itself as there are very few items that have not been done before. This is an unfortunate state of affairs. Where is the back bone of the US presidents that would even consider this type of flagrant violation of the constitution? I suppose the same place that Bush and company get their idea for commission of torture to prisoners of war. This is perhaps worse than wire tapping but it is still against the constitution.
What we may want to do in the future is too put wires on the president of the US and every time he authorizes an illegal act a nice volt of electricity would come down the wires and send a jolt to his gonads (or if its a woman to her vagina).
Hey its legal according to Bush's special commission" he is not in uniform and he is a combatant as he orders soldiers into wars. This sounds like officer to me.
Then if you have a judge that is an "expert" in IT you could challenge his ruling because he knew "too much". A lawyer could essentially challenge a juror for being IT savvy.
I do not know if its going to far or not (in ether case judge or juror) its a doubled edged sword and could swing either way. I will not say its a conflict of interest but it adds to the complexity of the trial (That I would hate to second guess either side).
One of the big reasons is that this type of crime (not specifically taping into the airwaves) is that the punishment is so light. When will the government understand that in order to deter white collar crime is that you must PUNISH people for doing it essentially 20 years (and who know how much less for good behavior) is essentially a slap on the wrist. Now if it had been 40 years with no time off for anything (except maybe death) is the only way you send a message to people contemplating future crimes like this.
Yes I am confused as well about the conservatives supporting the Patriot Act. The conservatives are always the first ones to scream about their civil rights taken away (or fluoride added to the drinking water etc). They are willing to shut up just because they think it is "OK" to stifle or restrict talking about privacy or any of the many other items the Patriot Act took away from American Citizens *AND* the essential militarizing of the American Air System in the name of air safety.
I know the mainframe people(me example) call them servers but they aren't truly servers. Servers in the definitions I have heard used are "Single application" (ie Data base) type systems. Although depending on several variables if the "application" is small enough you can run several applications on a server. The PC world (I have seen) that tends to be the case. In the mainframe world you run *MANY* different "applications" at the same time. ie a data base several (many?) communications systems that run many different application under each. The mainframe world gets its cost effectiveness because of that. Instead of having 500 PC servers you essentially can run 1000 (or more) in one box. The mainframe is also a LOT more secure than most (almost all) PC servers. The fact that IBM takes security seriously and will fix any known security exposures *QUICKLY* (usually a week or less). Where a windows box you can wait for months or years if ever to get a security issue fixed.
Also the durability of the code that runs on the mainframe is legendary, example code that ran in 1970 still runs (unchanged to day in 90+ percent of the case). The PC applications tend to have to be recompiled and or "adjusted" with every new flavor of the OS is just plain stupid as it is a waste of resources to have to do that. Yes the MF has a downside or two but if the application was done correctly no recoding has to be done on a typical application like say payroll. Small servers are "OK" until you start factoring in the cost to maintain them. The economies of scale usually favor the FV as the small servers tend to start getting more expensive as the numbers increase (even in a Virtual machine environment). Also PC servers do not have anything close to the 99.999 percent availability the mainframes can have.
Well I have read at least two different versions of this "story". Bother version are quite different than this version as to accuracy.
Version 1. The computer was an IBM AS400 (NOT a server)
Version 2. The computer was an IBM mainframe (again NOT a server)
Whatever version that you believe the programmers were guilty as charged PERIOD.
I cannot believe these guys could ever of thought they were doing something legit. It was clearly illegal to anyone that had a half a brain. Programmers (for the most part) are intelligent(I know but I did say for the most part).
I would hope that these programmers were sent to a medium security environment. ALthough they were guilty (no question) they did make it possible for MADOFF to delay being caught (which is a major part of the story as to where the SEC was in this mess).
Well I think the issue could be clouded with this: What do you think of the weather?
Any answer is bang your dead.
Strictly speaking this is in line with Geneva Agreement. I certainly do not agree but I am sure the right would disagree. They are more of a shoot first ask questions later type.
You are 100 percent right. Practically every major religion (except 1 maybe) to this day denies the possibility of life outside of earth.
Religion is fine but when it actually dictates the idea that man is the only intelligent creature of god they are doing us a great mis-service as sooner or later they will be proven wrong and will be made to look like fools that they really are.
Sigh... I have been running SETI on my computers for at least 15 years. For the last 4 months their servers have been so unreliable I am guessing even if life was found SETI would not know about it. I am guessing that they run MS servers as UPTIME is not in their vocabulary. Worthwhile project but any work done will be down the tubes because of their ability to keep their servers up and running (reliably)
You said: "But I wouldn't have tagged Pasadena CA as one of those places."
For the longest time I had understood that Pasadena was an extremely conservative area. My memories of my parents talking about moving into the area and they were quite concerned that a background check of my fathers family would show up a incident (which I was never really told what it was) and my parents were worried that they would not be allowed to live there. It was decided that we would stay away from the the state. So I am mildly interested in your sentence.
I loved OS/2 the only issue I had ever with it was that there were still so many windows restriction in the windows environment. I guess I can only blame MS for writing such bad code to begin with. Every limitation I ran into with windows applications had no such issue in OS2. Take the simple Cut & Paste size limitation of windows (IIRC it was around 32K). I constantly bumped up against the limitation. The same couldn't be said about OS2. I used WP(Word Perfect) under OS2 and it just plain worked. Never a crash nor any other OS2 application ever crashed.
OS2 = work windows(take you flavor) = crippled
IBM really screwed the developers by dropping it and I have not forgiven them since.
I gave up PAYPAL a few years back. Just try and *GUESS* how to delete your account. I asked quite a few times and they simply did not respond. Then I started to get a 40-50 emails telling me I had to do something with my account. I simply made an email rule to trash all email from paypal. Simple and I have yet to really need it. Heck one application would only accept paypal and I sent them a note saying they would not get my business until they offered another option. Simple put who the heck needs them?
The reply from the school district does not have any information in it that wasn't already disseminated.
So why was the students camera activated? There is no statement from the school that any computer involved with this had been stolen. The parents law suit does not go into detail as to what the child was accused of or anything about the unit being stolen or *ANYTHING*.
Well we didn't say MS was a paragon of virtue either...
But to get back to the main point about the HACKS. there doesn't seem to be any good reason not to allow the IPHONE to work on any other network unless it would cause problems. I have yet to hear what problems that it might cause. Mostly speculation.
Myself I would probably get an IPHONE except AT&T's network sucks major time, almost from A-Z are the reasons.
BUT, at the same time VERIZONS ads are misleading and I am surprised that AT&T has not come out swinging.
I guess I would pick any other network than the above 2. If and when IPHONE stops its pettiness people will not opt for it.
I can sort of understand about any hacking of APPS as I am beginning to wonder when someone is going to have to write an anti virus package for ZUNE. I am hoping that this will not be an issue for IPHONE.
I do not know about any of the others other that looking briefly at them and say not for me.
I would be curious as why anyone would buy the Kindle as Amazon has proven that they delete book(s) that you have already purchased. It is like having bought a real paper type book and some is dispatched to yank it away from your hands. I would suspect that a new profession would be created and called something like the Bounty book hunter maybe they could get A&E to do a series.
It's "living" when it's applied to a new situation that did not in the past exist. The same as all laws (or do we need to make new copyright laws every time someone comes up with a new storage device?)
There is a situation where that is true for some things and not true for others.
Prime example are military type weapons machine guns and the like. The court insists that these are "OK" (by their definition). But machine guns weren't invented until the 1850's(approx) with the gattling gun. Probably close to 80 years after the constitution. So these types of weapons are after the signing yes automatic weapons are "legal" according to the court.
There are other exceptions like abortion or other new medical procedures that weren't even dreamt about at the time.
So carving the constitution in rock is simply wrong. As someone pointed out privacy is another item that if strictly done by the constition then wire traps are just plain illegal (no matter who they are taping).
The list goes on and on.
The document is a guideline and should be interpreted taking previous history and current thinking into account.
But the Supreme Court says corporations are alive and have rights to give money to politicians. ----------- The Constitution is not "alive" in the sense most people use it, where the words have no meaning and the Congress ignores what it says, such that the Constitution might as well not even exist. That's why they (and I) find the reference objectionable. In reality the Constitution is a piece-of-paper with some Laws scribbled upon it, and it remains fixed for a long long time (two decades so far), until an amendment is added to it.
Yes they did and I would bet that after 10 years of corporations buying every politician in the states they will have to reverse themselves. This by far is the stupidest decision the Supreme Court has ever handed down.
If anyone has seen the TV commercials (I think I have seen 2) would probably toss their cookies 15 seconds into the ad. Heck the Army cannot keep interpreters what makes them think they will be able to keep highly skilled computer people?
The whole idea of the army attempting to do this makes me want to shake my head and start muttering to myself about moving to some other country. Between the politicians getting ubber rich off political contributions we will officially have a 4th class of people lest call them grease their palms and they will get you anything.
Well I think that MS is going to get burned on this sooner or later. Their wink wink licensing issues are only going to get worse *AND* I suspect that the government will figure out a way to put some kind of bug in MS software that will prevent the average Chinese citizen from doing anything the government doesn't want them to do.
Slashdot Mirror
History in some cases does repeat itself as there are very few items that have not been done before. This is an unfortunate state of affairs.
Where is the back bone of the US presidents that would even consider this type of flagrant violation of the constitution? I suppose the same place that Bush and company get their idea for commission of torture to prisoners of war. This is perhaps worse than wire tapping but it is still against the constitution.
What we may want to do in the future is too put wires on the president of the US and every time he authorizes an illegal act a nice volt of electricity would come down the wires and send a jolt to his gonads (or if its a woman to her vagina).
Hey its legal according to Bush's special commission" he is not in uniform and he is a combatant as he orders soldiers into wars. This sounds like officer to me.
Then if you have a judge that is an "expert" in IT you could challenge his ruling because he knew "too much". A lawyer could essentially challenge a juror for being IT savvy.
I do not know if its going to far or not (in ether case judge or juror) its a doubled edged sword and could swing either way. I will not say its a conflict of interest but it adds to the complexity of the trial (That I would hate to second guess either side).
One of the big reasons is that this type of crime (not specifically taping into the airwaves) is that the punishment is so light. When will the government understand that in order to deter white collar crime is that you must PUNISH people for doing it essentially 20 years (and who know how much less for good behavior) is essentially a slap on the wrist. Now if it had been 40 years with no time off for anything (except maybe death) is the only way you send a message to people contemplating future crimes like this.
Yes I am confused as well about the conservatives supporting the Patriot Act. The conservatives are always the first ones to scream about their civil rights taken away (or fluoride added to the drinking water etc). They are willing to shut up just because they think it is "OK" to stifle or restrict talking about privacy or any of the many other items the Patriot Act took away from American Citizens *AND* the essential militarizing of the American Air System in the name of air safety.
I know the mainframe people(me example) call them servers but they aren't truly servers. Servers in the definitions I have heard used are "Single application" (ie Data base) type systems. Although depending on several variables if the "application" is small enough you can run several applications on a server. The PC world (I have seen) that tends to be the case. In the mainframe world you run *MANY* different "applications" at the same time. ie a data base several (many?) communications systems that run many different application under each. The mainframe world gets its cost effectiveness because of that. Instead of having 500 PC servers you essentially can run 1000 (or more) in one box. The mainframe is also a LOT more secure than most (almost all) PC servers. The fact that IBM takes security seriously and will fix any known security exposures *QUICKLY* (usually a week or less). Where a windows box you can wait for months or years if ever to get a security issue fixed.
Also the durability of the code that runs on the mainframe is legendary, example code that ran in 1970 still runs (unchanged to day in 90+ percent of the case). The PC applications tend to have to be recompiled and or "adjusted" with every new flavor of the OS is just plain stupid as it is a waste of resources to have to do that. Yes the MF has a downside or two but if the application was done correctly no recoding has to be done on a typical application like say payroll.
Small servers are "OK" until you start factoring in the cost to maintain them. The economies of scale usually favor the FV as the small servers tend to start getting more expensive as the numbers increase (even in a Virtual machine environment). Also PC servers do not have anything close to the 99.999 percent availability the mainframes can have.
Well I have read at least two different versions of this "story". Bother version are quite different than this version as to accuracy.
Version 1. The computer was an IBM AS400 (NOT a server)
Version 2. The computer was an IBM mainframe (again NOT a server)
Whatever version that you believe the programmers were guilty as charged PERIOD.
I cannot believe these guys could ever of thought they were doing something legit. It was clearly illegal to anyone that had a half a brain. Programmers (for the most part) are intelligent(I know but I did say for the most part).
I would hope that these programmers were sent to a medium security environment. ALthough they were guilty (no question) they did make it possible for MADOFF to delay being caught (which is a major part of the story as to where the SEC was in this mess).
Isn't this a case for encrypted emails for *EVERYONE* ?
They can store it till the universe ends and it can't do anyone good/bad if they can't decrypt it?
Well I think the issue could be clouded with this:
What do you think of the weather?
Any answer is bang your dead.
Strictly speaking this is in line with Geneva Agreement. I certainly do not agree but I am sure the right would disagree. They are more of a shoot first ask questions later type.
You are 100 percent right. Practically every major religion (except 1 maybe) to this day denies the possibility of life outside of earth.
Religion is fine but when it actually dictates the idea that man is the only intelligent creature of god they are doing us a great mis-service as sooner or later they will be proven wrong and will be made to look like fools that they really are.
Sigh... I have been running SETI on my computers for at least 15 years.
For the last 4 months their servers have been so unreliable I am guessing even if life was found SETI would not know about it.
I am guessing that they run MS servers as UPTIME is not in their vocabulary.
Worthwhile project but any work done will be down the tubes because of their ability to keep their servers up and running (reliably)
You said:
"But I wouldn't have tagged Pasadena CA as one of those places."
For the longest time I had understood that Pasadena was an extremely conservative area. My memories of my parents talking about moving into the area and they were quite concerned that a background check of my fathers family would show up a incident (which I was never really told what it was) and my parents were worried that they would not be allowed to live there. It was decided that we would stay away from the the state. So I am mildly interested in your sentence.
Excellent, that never would have crossed my mind. Sell it to Hollywood and make a million.
I loved OS/2 the only issue I had ever with it was that there were still so many windows restriction in the windows environment.
I guess I can only blame MS for writing such bad code to begin with.
Every limitation I ran into with windows applications had no such issue in OS2.
Take the simple Cut & Paste size limitation of windows (IIRC it was around 32K). I constantly bumped up against the limitation. The same couldn't be said about OS2. I used WP(Word Perfect) under OS2 and it just plain worked. Never a crash nor any other OS2 application ever crashed.
OS2 = work
windows(take you flavor) = crippled
IBM really screwed the developers by dropping it and I have not forgiven them since.
I gave up PAYPAL a few years back. Just try and *GUESS* how to delete your account. I asked quite a few times and they simply did not respond. Then I started to get a 40-50 emails telling me I had to do something with my account. I simply made an email rule to trash all email from paypal. Simple and I have yet to really need it. Heck one application would only accept paypal and I sent them a note saying they would not get my business until they offered another option. Simple put who the heck needs them?
The reply from the school district does not have any information in it that wasn't already disseminated.
So why was the students camera activated? There is no statement from the school that any computer involved with this had been stolen. The parents law suit does not go into detail as to what the child was accused of or anything about the unit being stolen or *ANYTHING*.
Where is the BEEF???????
Well we didn't say MS was a paragon of virtue either...
But to get back to the main point about the HACKS. there doesn't seem to be any good reason not to allow the IPHONE to work on any other network unless it would cause problems. I have yet to hear what problems that it might cause. Mostly speculation.
Myself I would probably get an IPHONE except AT&T's network sucks major time, almost from A-Z are the reasons.
BUT, at the same time VERIZONS ads are misleading and I am surprised that AT&T has not come out swinging.
I guess I would pick any other network than the above 2. If and when IPHONE stops its pettiness people will not opt for it.
I can sort of understand about any hacking of APPS as I am beginning to wonder when someone is going to have to write an anti virus package for ZUNE. I am hoping that this will not be an issue for IPHONE.
I do not know about any of the others other that looking briefly at them and say not for me.
I would be curious as why anyone would buy the Kindle as Amazon has proven that they delete book(s) that you have already purchased. It is like having bought a real paper type book and some is dispatched to yank it away from your hands. I would suspect that a new profession would be created and called something like the Bounty book hunter maybe they could get A&E to do a series.
In reference to your comment:
It's "living" when it's applied to a new situation that did not in the past exist. The same as all laws (or do we need to make new copyright laws every time someone comes up with a new storage device?)
There is a situation where that is true for some things and not true for others.
Prime example are military type weapons machine guns and the like. The court insists that these are "OK" (by their definition). But machine guns weren't invented until the 1850's(approx) with the gattling gun. Probably close to 80 years after the constitution. So these types of weapons are after the signing yes automatic weapons are "legal" according to the court.
There are other exceptions like abortion or other new medical procedures that weren't even dreamt about at the time.
So carving the constitution in rock is simply wrong. As someone pointed out privacy is another item that if strictly done by the constition then wire traps are just plain illegal (no matter who they are taping).
The list goes on and on.
The document is a guideline and should be interpreted taking previous history and current thinking into account.
But the Supreme Court says corporations are alive and have rights to give money to politicians.
-----------
The Constitution is not "alive" in the sense most people use it, where the words have no meaning and the Congress ignores what it says, such that the Constitution might as well not even exist. That's why they (and I) find the reference objectionable. In reality the Constitution is a piece-of-paper with some Laws scribbled upon it, and it remains fixed for a long long time (two decades so far), until an amendment is added to it.
Your about 10 years to late. Both Bush's have taken constitutional rights and wrung them out in the dirty dish water of the Republicans.
We are lucky to have slashdot after their trouncing of your constitutional rights
It is actually star trek time because they have to count the tribbles twice.
What would happen if I plugged in my USB devices to this? Maybe I could toss the battery in my MACBOOK Pro?
Yes they did and I would bet that after 10 years of corporations buying every politician in the states they will have to reverse themselves. This by far is the stupidest decision the Supreme Court has ever handed down.
If anyone has seen the TV commercials (I think I have seen 2) would probably toss their cookies 15 seconds into the ad. Heck the Army cannot keep interpreters what makes them think they will be able to keep highly skilled computer people?
The whole idea of the army attempting to do this makes me want to shake my head and start muttering to myself about moving to some other country. Between the politicians getting ubber rich off political contributions we will officially have a 4th class of people lest call them grease their palms and they will get you anything.
Well I think that MS is going to get burned on this sooner or later. Their wink wink licensing issues are only going to get worse *AND* I suspect that the government will figure out a way to put some kind of bug in MS software that will prevent the average Chinese citizen from doing anything the government doesn't want them to do.