Just a reminder. For every scientific advancement that brings us closer to a (1984|Brave New World|Logan's Run|etc) future, there will always be a few of us freaks who will refuse to do as we're told. We'll escape, find weapons, learn to pilot harrier jets (or something similar) and come back and free everyone.
We owe it to the world to make sure that if `unlikely horrible technology driven society' comes to pass, that `unlikely rebel hero saviors' will exist. Am I right or am I right?
If you were a real scientist, you would have realized that there is a door in the back of each dryer which leads to another dimension. Offhandedly refered to as the `lost sock dimension', this place is chock full of the stuff we lose in the dryer. Not to mention a ton of lint.
The lord of this domain is a large createure I grew in my bathtub. I placed a peice of white bread over the drain and proceded to take showers (as normal) daily. The skin cells washed off during the normal task of washing collected in the bread, a matrix if you will. Eventually the cells started to create a new organism that quickly grew to about my height and became sentient. In trying to get rid of the `creature', I stuffed it into the dryer, making a weird situation even weirder.
Anyways! To make a long story meaningless, I appologize for the lord of the lost sock dimension, but I feel my scientific exploration more than justifies any loss of life. Or loss of socks for that matter.
"IMO if you read the general opinion on Slashdot (which is at least an attempt to listen to the whole community, rather than one self-appointed spokesman), it becomes obvious that on at least some issues ESR represents a small minority opinion."
I think that by your logic, using Slashdot to get a consensus of the general Hacker opinion is no different that getting it from ESR. IMHO of course.
"We'll stampede to a new leader. But it could be months or years before the talking heads notice. It took them years to notice that we existed in the first place."
I submit that this is a problem with media that has no true intrest or ties to the community it is reporting on/about. Even other groups have this problem, and I'm sure we won't be the first to deal with it.
"Bad Mojo is right."
Can I quote you on that? You know, for when I run for mouthpeice of the movement? Hehehe.
No, because chances are very good that what ESR says is what most hackers think. People like ESR and RMS don't get their ability to be heard from their own power, we attribute it to them.
If you are going to be annoyed, go be annoyed at elected officials telling you what you think. Or get mad at the media for telling you what laws you break and what a horrible person you are as a hacker. Go be annoyed with society or something. But don't try to construct ESR as `the man'. Last I checked, ESR was viewed as typical hacker with ideas that lined up pretty well with a good many open source and free software people out there.
When that changes, I'm sure the majority will finger some other willing soul to be a mouthpiece for the movement. Maybe even you.
"Expensive boxes: Quake3 Arena. OK. It looked cool. But why did the box need to be made out of metal! This one was even worse: two guys I worked with at the time BOUGHT Q3A soley to get the metal box."
This was the collectors edition. It was NOT the regular Q3A box. Most people purchased the regular paper box and NOT the metal box.
Boy, you go and get the collectors edition of a game and complain about it? Geesh. What is the world coming to?
OMG. I've seen 3rd graders draw better art than Heavy Metal. Actually, imagine the artistic ability of a 3rd grader and the hormones of a 15 year old boy run amok.
Sometimes I wonder how they made the movie with all the crayon eating going on.
I have been really looking forward to HALO. Bungie seemed like a group who seriously took their fans opinions to heart. If they decide to release HALO only for the XBox, I'll feel seriously betrayed. Bungie has had a very die hard following of Mac and PC users ever since HALO has been announced and if Bungie suffers for ditching those people in order to get more `say' on how the XBox is created, then so be it.
Oh well, there are other games coming out. I'm sure someone can fill Bungies shoes in the PC/Mac arena.
There are other things besides sheer power that make people choose one architecture over another. Often times availability and cost are much more important, especially to the Linux geek (IMHO). Other `geek' factors play in as well as just raw speed pulsing inside the heart of your machine.
x86 is fairly cheap, highly available, and easily self servicable. Therefore it is a quasi jack of all trades, master of none. That's not a bad thing in my book.
From my understanding, there is no way to know for sure what a wide spread deployment of solar cells may do to the Earth. In any situation, the Earth is a system that gains energy from the Sun and we just move energy and matter arround down here on the surface. It's just that when we burn fossil fuels, we end up moving the matter into a form that isn't good for some aspects of the Earth system. Wether solar or wind power would do the same is unknown, but I'm sure willing to find out.
Contrary to popular opinion, the unknown is a better choice than certain doom.
Would we really be taking energy out of the system? Or just moving it? All the windmills in the world would only act as trees do when it comes to removing wind energy from the atmosphere. No problem there, we could make up for all those trees we cut down. And paving more land could generate more wind. And solar power is just eleminating the middle man and getting power direct. No problem there that I can see.
I won't argue that to get the full value of using Linux, you need to be a sysadmin. But to say that will never change is a bit short sighted IMO. If Caldera has its way, Linux will come in a distro easier to use than Windows. There are questions about its usefulness, but that's a dead horse of a different color to beat later.
No article that I have seen has gone into much depth over this fact. But unless they are killing the gecko, am I to believe that they can survive in a vacuum? Is this the next animal set to destroy our species and rule the planet? Let's just hope no one breeds these things with Komodo Dragons.
Ok, you need to examine the source of the quote and why it was said. JWZ said this in the early '90s when setting up Linux to do development work wasn't quick and painless. It also wasn't the best OS at the time to be writing apps for. So, in this sense, he was correct. His time was worth money and messing with Linux at the time was wasting his time. Not to mention that this is all HIS opinion from HIS experience.
Nowadays he doesn't hold the same opinion from what I've heard. I go through all the trouble of explaining that soundbites are USELESS in a serious debate and yet you sit down and try to argue against a soundbite when you, obviously, didn't read my post or understand WHY or WHEN JWZ said what he did.
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Basically your describing using anonymity as a tool for Free Speech, not anonymity to escape prosecution. Anonymity is a tool, not a basic right of being human like we take Free Speech to be. 'nuff said.
In reality? The same thing that kept Microsoft from violating the laws they were found guilty of today. That is to say, nothing except the threat of litigation from the government.
Well, I would take it with a grain of reality. Linux is more difficult for most people out there to understand and work with. It's also his opinion about Linux in a very short, very shallow interview. It's like when JWZ said "Linux is only free if your time is worth nothing." I can't say I totally disagree with that idea. But the issue and intent are always more complex than a sound bite can ever convey.
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"My 'victim' (and this poor dork Rodona Garst) are low-life - nasty, but also pretty stupid. Many of the new generation of Net users simply don't appreciate how the net's resources can be used to collate information about them, how much about themselves they reveal."
I submit that ignorance of `the law' is no excuse. When you show up in a country that (despite what anyone says) is run like the Wild West, stealing a few horses is going to get you in trouble. No matter how normal it is in any other place you've done business.
The wider you spread the spam, the more likely someone is going to do something about it that isn't legal. You're asking for trouble.
Is it so hard to build legitimate e-mail lists of people who want info about your products? I have no problem with that type of e-mail solicitation.
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Just a reminder. For every scientific advancement that brings us closer to a (1984|Brave New World|Logan's Run|etc) future, there will always be a few of us freaks who will refuse to do as we're told. We'll escape, find weapons, learn to pilot harrier jets (or something similar) and come back and free everyone.
We owe it to the world to make sure that if `unlikely horrible technology driven society' comes to pass, that `unlikely rebel hero saviors' will exist. Am I right or am I right?
Bad Mojo
I don't care, I just want a hottie in a short skirt. And if that means genetic engineering, then so be it!
Bad Mojo
Do we realy need to hire someone to dig up dirt on MS? That's like trying to find out if President Clinton is cheating on his wife. DUH!
... that could still be worth something. Who knows?
;)
Now, digging up more dirt on MS allies
P.S.: I don't mind MS doing this type of stuff either. But then, I don't think MS could make me look any worse than I do.
Bad Mojo
How about keeping it at the level of:
Hardware you can touch and pickup and throw.
Software you can't (unles you turn it into HARDcopy).
Bad Mojo
If you were a real scientist, you would have realized that there is a door in the back of each dryer which leads to another dimension. Offhandedly refered to as the `lost sock dimension', this place is chock full of the stuff we lose in the dryer. Not to mention a ton of lint.
The lord of this domain is a large createure I grew in my bathtub. I placed a peice of white bread over the drain and proceded to take showers (as normal) daily. The skin cells washed off during the normal task of washing collected in the bread, a matrix if you will. Eventually the cells started to create a new organism that quickly grew to about my height and became sentient. In trying to get rid of the `creature', I stuffed it into the dryer, making a weird situation even weirder.
Anyways! To make a long story meaningless, I appologize for the lord of the lost sock dimension, but I feel my scientific exploration more than justifies any loss of life. Or loss of socks for that matter.
Bad Mojo
"IMO if you read the general opinion on Slashdot (which is at least an attempt to listen to the whole community, rather than one self-appointed spokesman), it becomes obvious that on at least some issues ESR represents a small minority opinion."
I think that by your logic, using Slashdot to get a consensus of the general Hacker opinion is no different that getting it from ESR. IMHO of course.
Bad Mojo
"We'll stampede to a new leader. But it could be months or years before the talking heads notice. It took them years to notice that we existed in the first place."
I submit that this is a problem with media that has no true intrest or ties to the community it is reporting on/about. Even other groups have this problem, and I'm sure we won't be the first to deal with it.
"Bad Mojo is right."
Can I quote you on that? You know, for when I run for mouthpeice of the movement? Hehehe.
Bad Mojo
No, because chances are very good that what ESR says is what most hackers think. People like ESR and RMS don't get their ability to be heard from their own power, we attribute it to them.
If you are going to be annoyed, go be annoyed at elected officials telling you what you think. Or get mad at the media for telling you what laws you break and what a horrible person you are as a hacker. Go be annoyed with society or something. But don't try to construct ESR as `the man'. Last I checked, ESR was viewed as typical hacker with ideas that lined up pretty well with a good many open source and free software people out there.
When that changes, I'm sure the majority will finger some other willing soul to be a mouthpiece for the movement. Maybe even you.
Bad Mojo
"Expensive boxes: Quake3 Arena. OK. It looked cool. But why did the box need to be made out of metal! This one was even worse: two guys I worked with at the time BOUGHT Q3A soley to get the metal box."
This was the collectors edition. It was NOT the regular Q3A box. Most people purchased the regular paper box and NOT the metal box.
Boy, you go and get the collectors edition of a game and complain about it? Geesh. What is the world coming to?
Bad Mojo
"Try Heavy Metal."
OMG. I've seen 3rd graders draw better art than Heavy Metal. Actually, imagine the artistic ability of a 3rd grader and the hormones of a 15 year old boy run amok.
Sometimes I wonder how they made the movie with all the crayon eating going on.
Bad Mojo
I have been really looking forward to HALO. Bungie seemed like a group who seriously took their fans opinions to heart. If they decide to release HALO only for the XBox, I'll feel seriously betrayed. Bungie has had a very die hard following of Mac and PC users ever since HALO has been announced and if Bungie suffers for ditching those people in order to get more `say' on how the XBox is created, then so be it.
Oh well, there are other games coming out. I'm sure someone can fill Bungies shoes in the PC/Mac arena.
Bad Mojo
There are other things besides sheer power that make people choose one architecture over another. Often times availability and cost are much more important, especially to the Linux geek (IMHO). Other `geek' factors play in as well as just raw speed pulsing inside the heart of your machine.
x86 is fairly cheap, highly available, and easily self servicable. Therefore it is a quasi jack of all trades, master of none. That's not a bad thing in my book.
Bad Mojo
I disagree. Purchasing an RS/6000 is a sure way to have your soul consumed. Therefore I say it is a consumer product.
Bad Mojo
It was John Romero's head on a stake. Perhaps an omen of things to come?
Bad Mojo
From my understanding, there is no way to know for sure what a wide spread deployment of solar cells may do to the Earth. In any situation, the Earth is a system that gains energy from the Sun and we just move energy and matter arround down here on the surface. It's just that when we burn fossil fuels, we end up moving the matter into a form that isn't good for some aspects of the Earth system. Wether solar or wind power would do the same is unknown, but I'm sure willing to find out.
Contrary to popular opinion, the unknown is a better choice than certain doom.
Bad Mojo
Would we really be taking energy out of the system? Or just moving it? All the windmills in the world would only act as trees do when it comes to removing wind energy from the atmosphere. No problem there, we could make up for all those trees we cut down. And paving more land could generate more wind. And solar power is just eleminating the middle man and getting power direct. No problem there that I can see.
Bad Mojo
Damn the squirrels! Full speed ahead!
Bad Mojo
I stand corrected.
I won't argue that to get the full value of using Linux, you need to be a sysadmin. But to say that will never change is a bit short sighted IMO. If Caldera has its way, Linux will come in a distro easier to use than Windows. There are questions about its usefulness, but that's a dead horse of a different color to beat later.
Bad Mojo
No article that I have seen has gone into much depth over this fact. But unless they are killing the gecko, am I to believe that they can survive in a vacuum? Is this the next animal set to destroy our species and rule the planet? Let's just hope no one breeds these things with Komodo Dragons.
Bad Mojo
Ok, you need to examine the source of the quote and why it was said. JWZ said this in the early '90s when setting up Linux to do development work wasn't quick and painless. It also wasn't the best OS at the time to be writing apps for. So, in this sense, he was correct. His time was worth money and messing with Linux at the time was wasting his time. Not to mention that this is all HIS opinion from HIS experience.
Nowadays he doesn't hold the same opinion from what I've heard. I go through all the trouble of explaining that soundbites are USELESS in a serious debate and yet you sit down and try to argue against a soundbite when you, obviously, didn't read my post or understand WHY or WHEN JWZ said what he did.
Honestly, think before you post.
Bad Mojo
Basically your describing using anonymity as a tool for Free Speech, not anonymity to escape prosecution. Anonymity is a tool, not a basic right of being human like we take Free Speech to be. 'nuff said.
Bad Mojo
In reality? The same thing that kept Microsoft from violating the laws they were found guilty of today. That is to say, nothing except the threat of litigation from the government.
Bad Mojo
Well, I would take it with a grain of reality. Linux is more difficult for most people out there to understand and work with. It's also his opinion about Linux in a very short, very shallow interview. It's like when JWZ said "Linux is only free if your time is worth nothing." I can't say I totally disagree with that idea. But the issue and intent are always more complex than a sound bite can ever convey.
Bad Mojo
I have taken Rombuu's summary of Jon's article and run it through my patented RPS filter of Death to create a summary. Enjoy ...
CULTURE BAD! I SUCK! WAH! GAMES GOOD! I SUCK AT QUAKE! VALIDATE ME! WAH!
Thank you.
Bad Mojo
"My 'victim' (and this poor dork Rodona Garst) are low-life - nasty, but also pretty stupid. Many of the new generation of Net users simply don't appreciate how the net's resources can be used to collate information about them, how much about themselves they reveal."
I submit that ignorance of `the law' is no excuse. When you show up in a country that (despite what anyone says) is run like the Wild West, stealing a few horses is going to get you in trouble. No matter how normal it is in any other place you've done business.
The wider you spread the spam, the more likely someone is going to do something about it that isn't legal. You're asking for trouble.
Is it so hard to build legitimate e-mail lists of people who want info about your products? I have no problem with that type of e-mail solicitation.
Bad Mojo